Finally started my eoa rewatch and I just adore how much of a loser Elena is in the second episode alone.
Girlie is trying so so so hard to be there for her sister but she has duties to attend but she's still 16 so her plans are always such a mess, and she insists so much on doing everything herself even when she doesn't understand jackshit of science and is so lost when it comes to ruiling, which is even better because an episode ago she was SURE she'd be able to be queen and had to learn the hard way that, she actually does NEED the Grand Council
YESSS YOU GET MEEE even while playing the game i couldnt imagine seven as cis they will always be non binary to me !!! and youre so right m!seven would and 100% should wear a skirt id kill to see it fr 🙏🙏🙏
Seven is genuinely so gender neutral for me that like...I can't see f!seven wearing a skirt for example, I know she does but I viewed more as like her forcing herself to wear one because of some internalized gender expectations if that makes sense?
Especially because we know that Seven's dad has a lot of outdated ideas on gender and gender norms and Seven hates their dad so ofc they'd go out of their way to be as androgynous as they can while still dealing with a sense of wanting to be belonged and falling back into those gender norms from time to time.
Gender in infamous is just so fascinating to me to explore I need more people to ask me about how I would play my playthrough if I played it with an all men cast because it's just so fascinating and interesting to me, especially since I'm playing as a high femme non binary Black mc so is just more interesting to me
I have a longer post for this where I’ll go into detail on this, because I think people need to understand where this is coming from, but I really need our life fans to understand that game is queer and it’s so clear that some of you are avoiding making tamaracks mcs only because she’s a girl, and fat and because y’all hate sapphics.
I saw an anon asking for another game with a male li, as if 90% of otome games aren’t about straight romances or around men. Can we sapphics have something? Or do we constantly need people showing us down our throats men and men romances? Are y’all able to survive without men?
We have a fucking game where neither of the mcs are men, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THID OR DO YOU HAVE TO BRING MEN INTO THIS ONCE AGAIN???? Because some of you seem, SO DESPERATE to have men in this to the point where you’re misgendering qiu and is fucking annoying
Edit: please reblog this with some information about demisexuality, I did make a mistake here by saying "Cove doesn't understand sexual attraction" he does, so my bad on that part
SO, I usually don't get too involved in fandom discourse, but with how Baxter fans are acting about the loss in the MDDB I snapped and decided we should have a talk.
(This turned out longer than expected so more under the cut. I BEG YOU TO READ THIS AND TOP UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ANGER AND FRUSTRATION COME FROM.
This is all over place, I tried my best to make this as comprehensible as possible)
Specifically I want to talk about this fandom obsession with him and how, is getting to a point where people are legitimately re-writing the game and erasing Cove existence to have this fucking man instead.
And look, I want to say that I get the appeal, I do, but I don't because Baxter's route is genuinely the worst written one out of the three; Compared to Cove's and Derek's (and Derek treatment in the fandom is a WHOLE OTHER ISSUE) is really not. I'm not here to judge one taste, I am here to tell you that your love for him is ridiculous.
It is genuinely ridiculous how much popular he has gotten and so many of you are forgetting about Cove and how important he is to the story, and generally how he is important to a lot of marginalized people. Some of you keep forgetting that Cove is autistic and demiseuxal and that is such a rare representation to see and it is already erased in the fandom (especially his autism), but now is even more erased because people are grabbing everything that makes Cove Cove, and are applying it to Baxter.
That is also not touching the fandom treatment of Derek and how overly criticize his route his compared to Baxter's, like...DEREK'S PARENTS ARE GETTING MORE SHIT THAT BAXTER CANONICAL BIGOTED PARENTS LOL, WHAT IS THIS?? Are you guys serious?? I've seen a fanfic with Irene being transphobic, why the fuck would someone write that when Baxter's mom is right there?
And Derek shitty treatment doesn't end here because people are straight up erasing the guy and not ?? talking about on how well written he is ?? He is not erased sorry, he's forgotten, no one cares about him. And when people care is a) rare or b) so criticize to the point where is no longer a criticism but just you bitching about it.
And it doesn't end there! Baxter is so talked about that people are more interested in him making a cameo in OL:N&F than the main characters of that game, THAT'S HOW THINGS HAVE GOTTEN, We've gotten to a point where people cares more about some white man than Qiu or Tamarack, which are way more interesting than him as characters but neither of them are white skinny man so lol, who cares about them.
AND TO TOP THIS SHITSHOW IT SOMEHOW GETS WORSE FROM HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN ARE CARE ABOUT THE INTERESTING ASPECTS OF BAXTER'S CHARACTER!!
Everyone is molding him like clay to create this, confident rich white boy when he is not?? and that's...the whole point of his route?? That he shouldn't need to put up this mask and to actually be a fucking human being?? THE FACT THAT HE IS A QUEER KID WHO HAD TO CUT OFF HIS PARENTS AND HAD TO BE INDEPENDENT FROM THEM AND LEARNING TO NOT DEPENDENT ON HIS PARENTS? (monetarily wise that is)
And like, people forget the man is queer, he is queer, he's a queer person who had to hide who he is to his parents and then had to cut them out for his own sanity, and no one mentions it.
The fandom as a whole erases queer identities,when this game is literally made FOR queer people don't you love it when straight people come into our spaces and erase our identities lol, that is a problem that more people should acknowledge, alongside the fact that Baxter's stans have taken over this safe space, overtook the main love interest, and ignore the genuine interesting aspects of Baxter's character to make him their own little doll they can play with and not appreciate a guy who is trying to learn how to stop being that mask everyone in the fandom has fallen over.
And I know, I know , I will get shit for daring to go against your favorite white boy, but consider that some of us played this game because an autistic character was in it, consider that this game is queer friendly and the fandom is also erasing that queerness to make horny fan fiction**, consider that some of us fond comfort in Derek and Cove's story and now we see everyone overtaking their stories by a white boy (that you can find in every other game), consider that his talk is tiring, consider also the fact that Baxter is technically queer and no one ever talks about it, consider that this game was a safe space for marginalized people and now it no longer feels that way
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**with horny fanfiction I mean people re-writing Cove whole personality (and sexuality if we're being honest here) and making him this...horny big man when...he is not? He got stressed out by simply having to share a bed with MC, he's extremely shy around the subject of sex and he gets incredibly nervous about it.
I personally think that is due of both his queerness and autism (and yeah his personality, but autism affects ones personality so lol, sue me) since demisexuality means he genuinely doesn't understand how people can feel sexual attraction, and mixing that with autism means he probably doesn't understand the SOCIAL pressure around sex and having sex.
Granted that's speculation on my part but as someone who is (probably) autistic and asexual I can tell that, at least a majority feels this way and Cove is literally is the type to have this kind of mentality, he does not understand how Baxter can flirt with him after mere seconds of knowing each other
If this gets me anon hate I don't care, I have been awake since 3 am and have real life problems to deal with than this.
So, let me say this for the last time and let me be clear
If you can't handle people hating on your favorite character,consider not being in fandom spaces, consider being in fandoms with a small group of friends like the rest of us learned to do.
Because listen, you guys complain about people calling out white favoritism in the fandom but then hate on the Latino brown character.
You guys go around saying that Derek dlc is boring and long and go on and on, on why you hate his dlc (when again Derek is fucking Mexican and guess what's important in Mexican culture dip shit) but heaven forbids we discuss THE VERY REAL PROBLEMS BAXTER DLC HAD: like the fact that it was clearly rushed, the fact that Kab had to hire someone else to finish it, the fact that you are forced to walk in on Baxter getting changed, the fact that you can't a normal conversation with him without him choosing how you should feel and so many more
You guys get to criticize Derek dlc (the dlc about a BROWN LATINO CHARACTER) without understanding it mind you because if you understood why Derek family is important to the dlc and still didn't like it I wouldn't give a fuck. But the second, the second, someone dares to say anything negative about Baxter (again a white man) then suddenly is abuse, suddenly it's fandom drama, suddenly you guys are the victims and we're Baxter haters who are abusing your poor white boy.
I understand the point Baxter dlc was trying to make, I hated the execution, I moved on with my life, I saw people explaining why it was bad, I agreed and moved on with my fucking life
And guess what??? You're allowed to like something someone dislike, it's ok, it's not an attack on you just idk??? Go outside and worry about the genocides that not a single one of you has been speaking about (I've noticed that those who agree with my points usually are speaking about what's happening in Palestine specifically,and those who are claiming we're abusing Baxter have not shared a single post about what's happening, I bring this up because a black artist in the fandom recently got anon hate for, rightfully, worrying about fandom racism and the person bring it up "what about real life issues" while being vague when there's a lot of things to worry about right now)
Took me a while to remember some but here's some I think are important historically/I remembered
Rocky Horror Picture Show: (Intended for Mature audiences) A couple ends up being stuck in the castle of this GNC doctor who has created "the perfect" man to use for his own pleasure. This is campy as hell and the most 80s thing to have ever 80s, this does have themes of sex and does go into both of the mcs being assaulted by the doctor, but it is also an extremely important point in queer culture being represented, especially post haze code
Falsettos: follows the story of Marvin, a Jewish man that left his wife (Trina) and kid (Jason) to be with a man (Whizzer). The first act centers around this new dynamic the family has to play into, especially as Marvin's psychiatrist (Mendel) falls for Trina, gender roles play a huge part in this and so does Jewish culture. The second act, in fact, focuses on Jason bat mitzvah and also the HIV virus and how it affected queer people before they knew anything about it
Rent: there are issues with rent queer representation, especially its bi representation, HOWEVER It is so so important because it was one of the first musicals to have a major queer cast. Rent follows this group of bohemian adults that deal with having AIDS and how much time they have left because of it. It specifically follows one of them, Roger, whom after his ex girlfriend killed herself after being diagnoses with the virus, he refuses to go outside and is stuck to write the last perfect song before his passing. Rent has many flaws but it was the first musical to being AIDS in such a mainstream manner back in the 90s, it does make it very important for queer history.
The Prom: (I take issues with the story also don't watch the movie) Follows this troupe of theater actors who decide to do a good deed after reading some horrible news about their latest show/themselves. An high schooler, Emma, is causing issues in her school as she wants to bring a girl to the prom and the people in her small town are losing their mind. It addresses homophobia and while I have issues with it, is a fun time
Kinky boots: Charlie Price returns home to his small English town after the passing of his father and he is left to deal with his failing shoe production factory. After being saved by a drag queen, Lola, one night, he finds the inspiration to make shoes for drag queen with the help of Lola
We are the tigers: Not as thematically into the queer themes as the first ones but it was written by a trans man and features a lesbian couple. The tigers are this group of cheerleaders who are horrible at being ones, during a sleepover two of their members end up and they're stuck into this murder mystery plot while also dealing with grief. Fare warning it deals with mental health, underage alcoholism, addiction, grief and other things I can't think of right now
Firebringer: like WATT, not thematically queer but the main couple is sapphic. It follows this tribe of the stone age as they navigate how to survive everyday without getting kill. One of the members discovers fire and goes against their chief instructions. It is honestly, just a very fun musical and you have a fun time
And I think that's all I have for you, some of these can be found through "slime tutorials" remember
