#sorikkung

[ironslung]

he fucking WHAT NOW

[hongism]

hello hello its me again been a while, can we get an up to date visual of the crew's hairstyles in moc bc i do not remember how im supposed to be imagining them rn barring seonghwa w the long black hair since mc had to push it out of his face </3 loved the new chapter btw even tho it took me forever to getting to reading it im insane again now <3

yes ofc we have one i just had to go hunt it down but! here we are!

act six:

for act seven! seonghwa's hair is still back but it will be making a shift hehe :3 no real big changes i just envision yunho's roots growing in really and mingi doing a bit of work too!

[the7thcrow]

ok coming into ur ask box this time so we dont have to be confined to the comment limit LOL and dont apologise for rambling i Wanted to pick your brain abt this!! sdhfgjksdfk i see… misbelief about the world driving the plot forward rather than their own motivation, that actually Is a very common plot device in y/n fic now that i think abt it. whenever i try to make my mcs Intentionally vague, it's usually their appearance, or anything regarding their gender. like now that i think abt it i dont think ive ever even tried writing an mc that is vague as a character itself? bc to me, a vague character, a "blank slate", is still a character, just one that lacks any life to it. like, among the writers i like interacting with on here and typically enjoy reading most, the general consensus seems to be that most dont actually read y/n as themselves and see them as more of a vague oc anyway, even as a reader, as they don't actually have any interest in inserting Themselves into a story in the very self-inserty, projecting way y/n fic is known for, and thats why they prefer a really fleshed-out mc.

personally, as a reader i seem to be the niche in between where i Do like projecting myself into the story as a character, but i Don't like blank slate mcs - because theres nothing to project On. i project onto self-insert characters the same way i project onto fully-fleshed characters in regular media, or hell, the same way i sometimes project onto an idol's image themselves. a reader insert being in second person just kinda helps enable the projection, and of course im gonna feel More seen by projecting onto characters that are More similar to me whether that be in gender/pronouns/appearance/personality/etc, but like... i dont go into it expecting to see the Entirety of Myself, written by someone else. i go into expecting to see someone else, in their wholeness as a character, and have them written compellingly enough that i can slot myself over them because even if i wouldnt do things the same way they would, i can still understand them and get in their head enough to "be" them for a while, in a way? like, even if i dont Personally relate to them, if theyre written well enough i can relate to how theyre feeling. kind of. i dont know if this makes any sense. i guess i just like feeling like a part of the story as a reader rather than Watching a story happen, kind of like playing a story-based video game with a preset ending - i get to play out the story as if im a part of it, and im gonna enjoy it even more if the character im playing as is similar to me, but even if theyre not, it still feels like im them for the duration of that story. and playing as a character that has no lines or backstory just isnt Nearly as compelling as playing as a character with a motive. yk? like with video games a blank protag is more forgiving bc you can create your own, but thats what fic is for. thats intentional. but you dont write fic of fic to fill in the blanks like that, so those blanks needa be filled already, imo.

as a writer i like the focus to be on the relationship dynamic the reader has with any of the given love interests, and i don't know how to create a relationship dynamic between two characters when only one character has a defined personality. bc the first question i ask myself is "what are these two characters like together? how do they play off each other/whats their interactions like?" so at this point im like ok x is a snark and y is a sunshine so x teases a lot and y just eats that shit up and gives contrastingly wholesome responses. or something like that. just for a vague idea of what they look like interacting. n then when i start working on the actual Plot, the question is "what made them fall in love with each other?" and This is what i base the entirety of the plot around. i pinpoint the specific traits that theyd like in one another, then i craft the perfect situations for them to experience those traits and fall in love with them. to do that, i need traits for the love interest to fall in love with, and i need a criteria for what the mc will be looking for in the love interest, and such a criteria comes from personality. theyre such closely intertwined concepts to me that i cant separate one from the other, hence why my mc's are all closer to faceless, nameless oc's than a blank slate. the only thing making me hesitate from following melty's lead and straying directly into named oc 2nd person fiction is the fact that i as a reader do like inserting my own name as y/n lmfao on my pc i even have a browser extension that does it for me. but i can use that same extension to change an oc's name in someone elses story so its not a big deal to me as a reader, but i just wonder if there are readers similar to me but that would be thrown off by having a different name instead.

this is really long and rambly unprompted so i apologise SKDFJGSKDFK but ive been itching to get my thoughts out on the matter with all this talk abt how we approach writing mcs. i didn't realise how many longfic writers put so much effort into writing a character so intentionally vague for the purpose of making someone that "could be anybody." but then again, considering im personally alienated from 95% of the fic i read just as a non-woman polyamorous person (among so many other factors), i guess other readers are a lot more used to actually being able to see a perfect carbon copy of themselves in self inserts without having to squint too hard at the lines. huh. wonder what thats like. SKDFGJSDFKGKDF

adding the break as to not horribly flood the dash

i really like what you said about feeling like a part of the story rather than watching it. i’ve been extremely negative all night about this, but at the end of day, i obviously enjoy 2nd person pov. i would hope so, after the shit-ton i’ve read and written, and continue to read and write about it. there is something nice about stepping into the story and experiencing something in such a different way. i enjoy it as a reader, it’s a different kind of experience. it’s really neat.

to be clear, i don’t think i write a total blank-slate. like, to give myself a bit of credit i think all my mc’s have a personality for sure. relationship dynamics with people surrounding them, definitely. they’re usually headstrong and maybe a bit cocky, bc that’s what i like to read and frankly, am generally like LMAO. i by no means take out lines or subject matter bc it could be too much unlike someone reading it. but idk, i feel less inclined to spend as much time as i should creating a completely fleshed out character when i don’t even have an image for them in my head, and majority of readers are going to imagine that it’s themselves anyway (which frankly, as they should, it’s literally called reader-insert). it’s definitely not an everyone problem. like from what you said it definitely seems like reader-insert has helped you develop characters and dive into them, but i just don’t think it works the same way for me.

i’ve been thinking a lot about character building lately. fanfiction itself is one of the most helpful tools and greatest liabilities for character building. on the one-hand, you learn to bring an idea to life. you learn how to really embody a character or person, especially in rpf where you sorta can do whatever you want with no canon, but everyone has a sort of idea or interpretation anyway. but it also relies on the fact that your audience already loves the characters you are using, instead of you having to start from scratch to make them love them.

maybe that’s why my original oc’s feel flat in my personal writings. when people read “y/n” obviously they already care about them bc well, to a lot of people it is them. which is the literal point of reader insert, so i think it would be extremely stupid to discourage that. but for me it feels a bit limiting.

speaking of which, there’s this idea of “y/n” and god… GOD do i hate it.😭not reading wise, bc i understand the appeal and literally throw my name in there and have since i was a pre-teen, but writing wise. i stopped using y/n in my fics as a name holder bc i didn’t like it in there anymore and i couldn’t place why for a while, but i think it’s bc when people call my mc “y/n” it’s just like… in the end that’s all she is. i can put as much planning and shit into this character but she’s not really a character, she feels like a placeholder. at least when we refer to her as mc it’s like, she’s her own thing. she is the main character™️ but when people are like, i love your “y/n”! it’s like she’s compared on this scale of reader-inserts compared to an actual breathing complicated protagonist. it’s hard to explain and i think i’m doing a horrible job, but that’s how i feel about it.

you’re also someone who like, does not do this whatsoever, and comments and discusses the mc as an actual character which i really appreciate. bc you do also write, and i think you share perspective on that even if also inserting yourself into the story. i sorta do both too. you get it. i think this is in a lot of ways a me issue more than a collective issue, which is why it probably sounds a bit messy and maybe just incorrect lmao. but idk, the bottom line of what i’m feeling is if i really want to work on protagonist building and that’s my number one priority that i need to improve upon, why would i do it a genre where a lot of readers (and thus those giving the feedback that i try and use to improve upon) are going to often judge the mc solely on the level of relatability, imagine that it is them and thus view it as such rather than an actual character, i can’t (and shouldn’t) flesh out mannerisms / appearance, and overall just causes an extra level of struggle compared to a third person character that i can fully embody with none of these limits.

especially if i’m starting to realize how much i really like writing in third, it just seems like that is what’s probably the right path for me as a writer. i’m still going to write natgig because i love it and it allows me to do a mixture of all these things, i’m still going to write reader-insert. but if i’m working on individual character building and embodiment revolving around the protagonist, i think a necessary step for me is to redirect a lot of my energy into writing some third-person non reader-insert pov.

[chanstopher]

you're like the only other person i know who mostly just calls him chris like i started calling him that back like in 2018 bc the fandom was a lot smaller and us aussie stays all knew each other and this one big austay acc was like "we're australian so we call him his australian name who the fuck is chan" as a joke but it highkey stuck and while nowadays i flip flop between the names at random sometimes leaning more to one sometimes leaning more to the other, back then i almost Exclusively called him chris lmfao to the point where id forget that most people dont and some stays would be surprised to hear me call him that. but like it just suits him he's just a dude he's just a chris. but he's our chris <3

i also think that's prooobably what he was called more for most of his life until now, considering he went by chris even during his long trainee period - i remember other jyp idols calling him chris before he even debuted, like oh i have this australian trainee friend his name is chris, rather than chan, so i imagine that's why he refers to himself as chris more often than he refers to himself as chan, even though these days id assume he gets called chan more often. both names suit him methinks i like them both its very him. ur url so big brained bc i call him chanstopher all the time too LOL

you know that’s actually really interesting that aussie stays all called him chris it’s so hard to tell where anyone is from on here so i can’t tell lmao but yeah he’s really just some guy named chris and I don’t know i think christopher just suits him so well. i do think him calling himself chan more is because they’re getting more popular but i still feel like he sees himself as chris, especially after the last channies room where he was so excited he said his name was chris instead of stray kids bang chan lmao

[yeoandmoon]

:D for the moot ask game!! emphasis on the hunting each other for sport 😌😌😌

hunting my beloved mutual mischief sorikkung for sport……. (but also feel free to dm me or message me!!!! 🥺)

[dark-muse-iris]

hey iris. i have a very close friend of mine who's 28 and often feels like she's being creepy or weird for liking younger kpop groups like stray kids, ateez, txt, etc, and finding the members sexually attractive. you don't have to answer this ask publicly - or at all tbh - but i was wondering if you'd have any words of wisdom as an older kpop fan who writes smut and who's also neurodivergent - she also feels kinda bad for hyperfixating on real people to the extent she does. i try to insist that it's not inherently weird so long as they're all adults - which they are - and it's not like she's making moves on em irl anyway, but being more within their age range than hers i don't think it comforts her all that much. regardless if you choose to delve into this or not i hope you're having a great day <3

Thanks for your ask. My response is kind of long so I'm placing a cut:

I think it would be useful to examine where that shame comes from. If a similar age gap existed with an older celebrity in their 30s or 40s, would your friend have the same view? There's also a consideration of whether one's just looking/fantasizing because the celebrity is flashing their abs and grinding on the floor w/ eye contact vs. truly considering them as a viable dating partner or a fling. I enjoy a lot of 4th gen performers who promote adult themes, but would I actively pursue a 21 year old? Eh, probably not. Most of the ones I remember dating in that age range (even when I was that age) don't know who they are or what they even like when it comes to sex or having a good time. The pressure 20-somethings place on themselves constantly is also a major mood killer.

I haven't written any 4th gen smut, but I'm heavily considering it for both ATEEZ and Stray Kids under the pressure of friends who are also in their 30s and are consumers/creators of fanfic. Why? Because my muses move a lot and I still like telling stories, plus I have biases and bias wreckers in both groups. Many 2nd and 3rd gen faves are either in the military or they're being promoted in a way where I'm extremely bored and underwhelmed. On the other hand, 4th gen has incredible groups who are active, heavily promoted, and showing off concepts that are not only visually appealing, but more in line with the darker explosive shit I've liked since my teens. I wish 3rd gen had taken those kinds of risks!

Anyways, I always create new characters from scratch and then model their physical features and some traits on a celebrity's likeness. That's not because I'm constantly fantasizing that an idol is *my* prince. It's more like I wanted to write a story about a royal and they'd look good in the story. I also like having access to audiences who are looking for short stories to read. Fanfiction is low pressure compared to original works (which I also write). Someday I won't have any active idol muses and then I'll move back to writing literary/movie/video game fanfics like I used to. But until then, I'll keep doing this because it's fun.

As for hyperfixating, it could be that your friend has the same problem I have sometimes where you don't want to let yourself have fun because you feel you're undeserving of it in some way. A lot of people are taught that one must earn the reward through hard work. You suffer first, then get a treat. Neurodivergent brains process that experience differently and can struggle with it no matter how disciplined we try to be. And a lot of us would rather shame ourselves into neurotypical behavior than try working *with* our brain's natural pursuit of dopamine in a safe way.

The chemical rush I get when I hyperfixate on something fun like an idol's legs is the same rush I get from sex, gambling, risky behavior, video games, drugs, etc. I'm not endorsing all those things, but I know with a dopamine deficiency that if I don't give myself some free rein from time to time, I'll end up acting out to get it later. So I have an open marriage, play video games where I do crimes, use online pseudonyms to perform different roles like sexting, and gamble within monetary ranges that are safe and don't hurt anyone. And I take my meds, manage sleep, diet, exercise, etc.

Hopefully this helps some? Honestly, I didn't have a handle on any of my shit until I started reading neuroscience stuff and understanding how neurotransmitters work, where they come from, what happens if I don't have enough to function, and how to get more of each one if I need to. That's how I've managed a lot of psych shit with limited access meds and providers. You have to be your own advocate, always, because you're living with you, right?

[the7thcrow]

2, 40 and 63 for the ask game! im particularly curious abt 2 this is one of my favourite things to ask writers about. i love seeing how stories change from original plan to completion.

stared blankly at this after checking my ask box for the first time in a few days, bc i legitimately forgot I posted that ask game LMAO.

but any who, I'm so excited for these.

2: talk about a notable time a narrative or character has looked you dead in the eyes and said “fuck your plan, here’s what we’re actually doing.”

I feel like this happens a lot to me when it comes to the main character dynamics. like what i originally expected the banter and overall vibe to be between the mc and pairing doesn't play out how i had planned. in just in case for example, I hadn't originally planned for it to be a sort of enemies to lovers vibe, but like ten minutes in i was like ya know what, fuck it, it's hyunjin in an office i need to play up the pretentiousness LMAO.

but I think the one that stands out the most for me, that I had to do a fuck ton of replanning for is with natgig, because san wasn't originally going to have feelings for hwa when i had it first plotted it out (at least not so early, anyway). it wasn't until I was writing his monologue at the end of chapter 2 that I was kinda like... you know what, this is so much more angsty and thus so much better lolol. definitely required some rearranging, but i think it's been so fun and worth it.

40: best piece of feedback you’ve ever gotten.

if we are talking about an actual piece of feedback, can i just say yours LMAOOO. i love excited rambling paragraphs talking about the story, it genuinely keeps me going, and you're the king of those honestly.

but as for feedback in general, i always love when people talk about the actual plot and their thoughts on the story within their feedback, as it helps me get a feel for where their head is at and what they think. don't get me wrong, I love being told the writing is great (like, a lot, obviously), but my favourite pieces of feedback always have more to do with the story itself than just general praise, if that makes sense?

63. what’s the best insult you’ve read in a fic?

don't know why, but I'm racking my brain and I can't think of a singular insult or exchange at the moment. but @fizzydrink698 always has super witty banter that makes me grin, so i'll just say her☺️

[ironslung]

man now im reminiscing too, 2017-2018 stayblr was where it was at 😭😭 i think ive been following you since around then too. remember when we called ourselves beacons cause we didn't have a fandom name yet.... all the coca cola memes... people would interact with each other so much more too i miss it 😭

JSNSKSNSKSMS 😭 please i was embarrassing back then even more than now somehow 🫡 you're all so brave if you've been around since i was like miss @/3rachad like .. if you've been around since then.. veterans discount ......... also please the beacons thing and the cereal debates and ofc the cocacola memes 😓😓😓 damn ... good times 😭😭😭😭 hate how much it feels like it was a million years ago like ?? it doesn't feel like it was only a short couple of years ago but ..?.$/&/&/&/@/ 😭😭