#spn stuff

[eastofshane]

when cas is curious and looks at stuff!!!

[spaceandfiction]

there is nothing better than when the supernatural fandom gets a contact high from other gay news on television we all wake up ravening for our revenge like sweeney todd being reunited with his razors

[regaliasonata]

God take his pain away and give it all to the Duffer Brothers.

[vertigoartgore]

Dean's dirty talk with the Wendigo (from Supernatural 1x02, 2005).

[swemo69]

Of course, there isn't one heaven--each soul generates its own paradise. I favor the eternal Tuesday afternoon of an autistic man who drowned in a bathtub in 1953. -Castiel, Angel of the Lord

[seaweed-eater521]

[theogmrpandabear]

YALL IM CRYING😭😭

JUST GOT TO THE END OF SPN S3E7

AND- AKSJKDSJKSAKSDJKAJK

DEAN IS “showing his little brother the ropes”

AKA- TEACHING SAM TO FIX HIS CAR!!

HIM BEING FULLY PREPARED TO DIE IN LESS THAN A YEAR, AND MAKING SURE HIS PRECIOUS BABY BROTHER KNOWS HOW TO TAKE CARE OF HIS PRECIOUS CAR IS JUST-

MY HEART CANNOT TAKE THIS!!!!!!

[locke-esque-monster]

Have we considered that Mystery Spot actually gives credence to Dean's lie in early Season 4 that he doesn't remember hell?

Because at this point, Sam doesn't know that the Trickster is an archangel, that he's already met an angel, or that angels can create pocket universes. And considering how everyone in that universe reacts (think the minimal concern by either the old man or anyone around by a hit-and-run) they're almost certainly creations of Gabriel. And with how Sam survives a whole 6 months without Dean - this is an angel pocket-verse, not Gabriel changing things. So we can assume Dean didn't actually go to Hell during those 6 months vs Dean going and having forgotten like he did all the Tuesdays/previous Wednesday. And so Dean didn't lie when he said he didn't recall much. He essentially was an actor exiting the stage of the play, in limbo until its time to return.

But Sam doesn't know that. He knows Dean is being made to forget things. He knows the Trickster can change reality (If he can throw someone in a wormhole, how hard is it to grab someone out of hell?). He knows the Trickster refers to Dean as doing the "hellfire rumba" right now. He knows if Dean dies early he should still go to hell.

But Dean doesn't know this. It's pretty clear that while Dean knows a little about the Mystery Spot incident, he doesn't have the full picture. So he probably doesn't know he died for 6 months in this pocket universe. (With how they struggle to express themselves normally and Dean's upcoming death being traumatic for them both, neither of them likely want to dig into this.) In Mystery Spot Dean has no visible tics he's lying (unlike later), this time he just looks confused.

So from Dean's perspective, when he lies about not remembering hell in 4x1, it isn't something he's trying to slide by Sam, say for continuity because he's told this lie before. Instead, this is a first-time reaction/lie you'd expect from Dean, whose trying to avoid talking about his feelings and trauma, and to hopefully to will the memories away.

Sam however is expecting Dean to say this. He thinks forgetting hell upon resurrection is normal, it happened to Dean before. Sure he wants to believe that Dean forgot, but having a precedent helps (he was pre-law after all). It's only when Uriel questions it does Sam start doubting the lie.

So it's crazy to me that Gabriel's experiment when he's trying to stop Sam letting Lucifer out, actually helped solidify Dean's lie to being even more effective, by drawing out the full reveal to Dean's hell experience until mid-season (for good or ill to how the season played out with Sam finding out later rather than sooner - and how that impacted Sam's actions in season 4 is a much more in-depth conversation).

[As an aside to a point above, Gabriel would be too much on the angels' radar to send Dean to hell early, and to get him back all by himself - unless saving him is far easier than the angels implied. Under his "witness protection" Gabriel probably had to do one a heck of basically an obfuscation spell to get off the angels radar during Mystery Spot, since it's likely they were keeping basic tabs on Dean this close to his trip to hell and this would have caused some attention he didn't want. Cas easily caught Gabriel was too powerful to be a trickster during Changing Channels, and he's doing a whole town as a set versus a building and (at least to Sam) goes on for about 9+ months (3+ of Tuesdays and 6 more afterwards - funnily enough that's also how long into Dean's deal we are at this point based on airdate) - which is hardly a subtle use of his powers.]