#swainblanc

[kaszanyan]

trollface

[elementroar]

Omg the situation in-game when you line-up LeBlanc and Swain’s voicelines and how they actually interact now is kinda hilarious.

She absolutely hates Swain’s guts and is seething the moment she sees him.

Meanwhile Swain is just happy for her attention.

Leblanc continues to seethe and be passive aggressive around him.

Meanwhile Swain is unbothered, continuing to flirt with her all through it.

And of course the infamous line that they’re “enemies with benefits”

Which btw, considering how infamous it is, I’m surprise Riot didn’t include a SPECIFIC response to this line, but unfortunately budget of an indie company /s

However her generic taunt response of tossing him into a pit for his horny also works lol.

Some may have wanted LeBlanc to flirt back, but honestly, this whole dynamic is actually much funnier and interesting to me.

Aside from Mordekaiser (for understandable reasons), Swain is the ONLY other person who causes LeBlanc to raise her voice and exhibit more emotion. While she rages and seethes, Swain is talking to her completely normally, even with affection.

There’s also the larger contrast between the two, where LeBlanc obviously doesn’t trust ANYONE except herself and is very defensive as a result. Meanwhile Swain actually once had to depend on other people and does have true friends, people he trusts (Darius, Draven, Katarina) and fostered true bonds and loyalty with. I’ll get into that discussion at a later date.

[vesperien]

[thedamnlesbian]

theyre so STUPID

[everayy]

for the ship ask!

Seraphine/Jinx, Sejuani/Ashe (I already know you ship it but I love those two and need to hear more 👀👀), vikjayce, jayvik, swainblanc

serajinx is fine. i'm personally not a huge fan of most popular jinx ships (tho i wouldnt classify serajinx as one of them) because they either don't appeal to me or there's a lot of mischaracterization that annoys me (timebomb and lightcanon have to be done in very specific ways to tickle me). i think canonverse serajinx isn't really for me but i enjoy toying with it in modern aus (in my entresol au i think sera has a bit fo a crush on jinx but it doesn't lead anywhere. i think that's good for the soul). i much prefer them as friends

sejashe is one of my absolute favorite league ships. they make me crazy. there's So Much tension there. i think it's made better when it's reciprocated But ashe still loves tryndamere as well.

vikjayce used to be one of my favorite league ships but i think overexposure to jayvik (which i previously really liked but now hate) and its racist, misogynistic stans made me like the league ship less, too. WHICH SUCKS. i just dont find myself wanting to engage with it anymore. i really cant stand that much arcane talk as of 2026

swainblanc is kjnkacdsbkbqkjaf. i think it's such a perfect example of leblanc trying to emulate the cruelty she used to suffer at the hands of mordekaiser, and that ultimately fails to accomplish he power fantasy because 1) swain is a fucking masochistic freak, and 2) a much smarter foe than sahn-uzal ever was. i think it's hot. i think it's very, very hot actually. there's something to be said about swain enjoying their tango while leblanc wants him obliterated. i think there's something almost cathartic for leblanc in being able to go all out on a partner, discharge all her anger, and swain being such an insane pervert he just... sticks around. it also adds tons to her dynamic with vladimir (he can never make her feel the way swain does). and my take on leblanc always failing to kill him is very freudian: leblanc is a very capable woman. if she hasn't killed swain yet it's not only because he's extremely witty... it's also because she doesn't reaaaally want to. #love the unconscious

[rexxunov]

Their old lore

[flowerfemmefay]

Swain and LeBlanc better get a sex scene in whatever Riot does after Arcane. That's all I'm sayin'.

[elementroar]

Because I'm both a big fan of Talon and slowly getting back into LoL/Arcane lore (which hopefully means I'll get back to my Arcane rewrite), I gotta ask. Where's the theory that Jarvan IV is LeBlanc's son, and where else can I find Talon is a SwainBlanc child theories, plus this about Jarvan? I need and want to know more.

(Also this has no real bearing on anything, but since Swain and Talon are among my favorites, I just feel that in a decent reveal/meeting scenario, Swain would admit to Talon that he would have named him Roland. Again, no bearing but I just gotta get part of that wholesomeness off my chest. Addendum, visualizing Talon and Jarvan as half brothers is gonna be my new favorite thing.)

For Jarvan IV being LeBlanc's son, this was actually hinted at since Legends of Runeterra, which gave both LeBlanc and Jarvan voicelines where J4 gets more and more confused over why he finds LeBlanc familiar, and LoR LeBlanc taunts him about it.

This gets brought up again with LeBlanc's new lines in-game when versus a Jarvan IV. This video lines up LeBlanc's new voicelines and J4's LoR lines (cos he didn't get new LoL ones) right at the start of the video (yeah I know the thumbnail but this video's actually really good to hear the conversation the characters seem to be having in their disjointed in-game voicelines):

For Talon potentially being a SwainBlanc child, that was really a crack theory that floated around maybe reddit and the old LoL forums way back in the pre-2018s. It mainly sprung up when Talon was first introduced, since just having Beatrice and thorns from the Black Rose in his comic was the only bits of lore we actually had on him besides his affiliation with the Du Couteaus. There might have been some speculation that leaving Talon with Marcus was planned but, honestly if there was, it would've prolly be on the old LoL forums that were frozen and deleted back in 2020.

Which is a crying shame, a LOT was lost with the LoL forums deletion from the community side. Fan-theories, all kinds of art, fan OCs, writing etc. And we could even directly write to the writers (heck a lot of SwainBlanc stuff was supported by Swain's lore writer directly answering questions and being coy about stuff in the forum).

The current run of Talon being their kid came out cos of his Wild Rift model giving another new face, that's completely different from his LoL model and also from his last appearance in the Katarina comic. The thing is that in normal gameplay, you can't see Talon's full face, at least not in his default skin. So it was when someone removed the mask on his model and we see Talon now sports basically Swain's eyebrows.

This thread mainly was where people started comparing their Wild Rift models and edits of younger Swain with his black hair and well, the resemblance got uncanny!

Considering both is based on their newest models in Wild Rift, it does feel that the WR design team was doing this very deliberately, especially for Talon.

There's also a bit of a parallel going where in-story, Swain's basically became Katarina's adopted father cos she's loyal to him and he exploded her bio-dad Marcus to protect her. Something which LeBlanc taunts Katarina about in in-game voicelines.

Meanwhile, Talon works for the Black Rose instead cos he's at loggerheads with Katarina about where their loyalty lies, and really, Talon being Swain's son would be fitting, cos LeBlanc sending Swain's own son to kill him is the kind of hater energy she'd have. As is Swain completely missing or dismissing his own son in favor of Katarina who he trusts enough to task with killing Swain if Raum takes over.

The drama writes itself basically.

ALSO, now this is about the ancient lore, pre Swain's 2018 rework. In the old lore, Swain and Jarvan IV were in fact mortal enemies. It's heavily implied that J4 is the one who broke Swain's leg and left him with the limp. Swain tried to ambush J4 at J4's League Judgement scenario, which is basically like trying to kill someone within the UN, and the UN actually has mages that can kill you for that but you don't care cos you HATE the other guy even more.

With J4 representing Demacia and Swain representing Noxus, the two of them were THE original representatives of the two nations' rivalry and duking it out constantly, way before Garen and Darius took on that posterboy roles later.

They even had a cinematic of them fighting each other for the Dominion game mode (the cinematic surprisingly was never released except airing on Twitch, so you won't find it on LoL's official YouTube).

Riot this year even reposted old artwork (actually a fan repaint of older artwork) which showed the then iconic clash between Jarvan IV and Swain for the Dominion map just like the cinematic. Except it's actually LeBlanc pretending to be Jarvan IV but no time to get into THAT old subplot in the old lore.

Basically what I'm saying, is that them HATING EACH OTHER was part of their lore and part of their entire deal. But when Swain got reworked, his entire rivalry with Jarvan IV evaporated and went into him now having beef with Irelia and Ionia, and barely with Demacia or J4.

This actually hurt Jarvan IV lore more than it did Swain, cos Swain got a whole bunch of new in-depth lore, Jarvan got zilch. Hell, in old lore, J4 was technically not even really him in several key moments, cos it was LeBlanc pretending to be him to stir up trouble.

But you know what? LeBlanc being Jarvan IV's mom, would actually bring J4 back into the lore drama, and give him significance. Cos it gives a reason for Swain, who we know is actually kinda hung up on LeBlanc in a borderline sexual harasser way, to actually hate Jarvan. Cos that might actually get to Swain, that she had a kid with someone else. Even if that was really a clone but at this point I don't even know how we differentiate between LeBlanc clones, seriously.

Plus we should note, this is a really interesting way the lore was reworked from LeBlanc kidnapping J4, using his blood to pretend to be J4 and power up Sion, all to help Swain become Grand General - and now we have not only Swain and LeBlanc being enemies, but poor Jarvan, is now a sidestory to them at best, and instead of being J4, LeBlanc's now J4's mom, possibly.