I should have known the fall of media literacy was coming 10 years ago when half the Spn fandom couldn't understand what Sam meant in S9 when he said "same circumstances."
So Sam girls went 'round and 'round, trying to explain and RE-explain he wasn't saying "I would not save you, Dean" but rather he would not go against Dean's explicit desire to not have his bodily autonomy violated
Because of the tumblr updates in the last decade, there are some really long posts that are no longer re-blog-able. I think it has something to do with the fact that we used to not really have the ability to comment on posts the way we do now with threaded replies, so we would just reblog a post a million times responding over and over.
Anyway, I will just link you to this one, which is an OG Dean parentification post with so many replies that I love, but I cannot reblog to your feed.
Why do fans of two characters who love each other more than anything in the world fight so hard? You can love them both. Try to understand them both. They both made mistakes, but they are both just people. Each can identify more with the other, understandably. But you have to try to understand them both.
I know this is the way Tumblr used to work, but it feels weird to start a convo on someone else's post by replying in a thread. So I am just going to keep doing it this way to sequester my uninvited replies to my page, to be ignored or responded to as the feed feels fit!
I do think that this comment was saying "let's just all be friends because we love the same show," but I do want to address the sort of consistent false equivalence that is constantly brought up when people say "you can love them both equally." I do believe this is true, you can love both Sam and Dean equally, but we cannot reduce them to the lowest common denominator and pretend they are the same person.
I think the reason Sam fans and Dean fans fight is because some people find it hard to hold criticism and love for a character at the same time and become defensive. Do the boys both make mistakes because they are both human? Of course they do. But they don't make the same mistakes nor do they make the same amount of mistakes, and eventually we have to admit that when criticism of one character outweighs the amount of criticism for the other, maybe the reason is that one character deserves more criticism because of the patterns of behavior they have established.
This doesn't have to mean you don't love that one character as much as the other. It can just mean you see him for how he truly is and demand better. This is how I feel about Dean.
My criticism of Dean doesn't mean I don't love him. It just means I'm not going to ignore his flaws in favor of some ill-fated effort to treat the boys "equally" by pretending that means they are the exact same person. Treating them equally would be holding them to the SAME STANDARD and going from there.
I think this is why Dean fans find criticism from Sam fans tough to take, because they demand that people who claim to love them both to discuss them equally negatively/positively, period. I would do that if the dynamic between the boys was as equal as the fandom demands we treat the boys, and warranted that, but it doesn't. Pretending otherwise to change the standard to cut Dean some slack wouldn't be fair to Sam.
What is fair is seeing things as they are, then being able to hold loving a character while also accurately identify when the character deserves criticism at the same time. Criticism does not equal hate, it is just part of fandom discussions and analysis.
So I just realized that on Serializd you can rate and review every single episode of Supernatural, and since I have been trying to get my bf to watch s1-3 for the last year AND I have tons of live blogs I wrote and perfectly tagged BY EPISODE NUMBER (through 11.08 bc that’s when I quit) at my fingertips, I could ABSOLUTELY do that this year.
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So I think I might.
If I endeavor to do this ENORMOUS task, I will share here as I go. ALSO, I will live blog the new episodes I watch that I’ve never seen before (11.09ish to whatever the episode is before the series finale).
WOW this is a lot but I am EXCITE. (Also I used to write and engage with SO much Spn meta, find that here.)