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In the Baroque style, the preference for continuity over articulation and the lack of clear-cut modulation leave wit little place except as a general tone or atmosphere in some very few works; the Romantic modulation, on the other hand, at times so heavily chromatic that the two keys blend into each other, and often much slower and more gradual, nullifies the effect of wit altogether, and we return, with Schumann, to something resembling the Baroque good humor and air of jollity. The civilized gaiety of the classical period, perhaps already somewhat coarsened, makes its last appearances in the Allegretto of Beethoven's Eighth Symphony, and in some of the movements of the last quartets. After that, wit was swamped by sentiment.

Charles Rosen, The Classical Style. Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven (New York: Norton, 1997), p. 98.

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What's an example of "the baroque" aesthetic you like in movies? Or books?

hmmmm. this is tricky because on the one hand labeling something ‘baroque’ usually depends on it being part of a developmental trajectory (like the example of early vs late film noir), but on the other hand i have an instinct that says ‘this is baroque’ that may or may not be completely in line with that. for instance, 2001: a space odyssey and who’s afraid of virginia woolf both came to mind because something about the way they combine complexity with solidity feels very very baroque. even though they’re both very ‘singular’ films.

dawn of the dead and alien are probably baroque horror. the godfather, perhaps.

i’m bad at remembering examples off the top of my head so i’ve enlisted gabe for help and will hopefully have more later!

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i was asked to sum up my thoughts on the baroque, or what i mean when i say that something is baroque.

there's baroqueness in the literal historical sense of course, which refers to 17th century art (visual or otherwise).

but in the somewhat more abstract sense, ‘the baroque’ is the turning point in any period of artistic development in which the basics have been achieved, allowing those basics to become more complicated. the baroque is characterized by maturity and subversion and riffing without becoming something else entirely.

so 17th century art is baroque in comparison to the renaissance. film noir in the 50's (or later) is baroque compared to film noir in the early 40’s. the maltese falcon vs chinatown. it's like leveling up your pokemon. renaissance periods are usually simpler, and there is a kind of perfection in that simplicity. take really early rock and roll, for example, which is defined by short tight songs--small but complete ideas--and compare it to pop or rock as it developed in the 70’s. late beatles is baroque.

i like the baroque because it’s elaborate and slightly meta without being cumbersomely, indulgently navelgazing. baroque art usually juggles more things than renaissance stuff while still managing to feel complete and coherent, which is why it's so satisfying.