#thefirstservant

[whydisignuponthisgodforsakensite]

By the way, other favorite moments of mine: Kaner raising two fingers instead of one during the 2013 Cup photo and looking straight at Jonny, Tazer's "does Kane sometimes get on your nerves" convention story, Kaner talking about Tazer winking at him, Tazer pretending to slash Kaner during the 2015 ASG, the Pat Brisson "extra one dollar" photo, Brad Richards being all "Tazer? Kaner?", and Kaner saying he knew Jonny was going to be announced as captain because Jonny was acting differently. :D

I love all of those moments, too!!

In a few weeks/months I might do another poll to select a challenger for the Ultimate 1988 Moment.

And just because I want to add pictures/gifs for these moments…

Kaner raising two fingers instead of one during the 2013 Cup photo and looking straight at Jonny (but that seemed to be more because Jonny turned his head for him or at least placed his hand on Kaner’s head, drawing his attention)

Tazer’s “does Kane sometimes get on your nerves” convention story

Kaner talking about Tazer winking at him

Tazer pretending to slash Kaner during the 2015 ASG

the Pat Brisson “extra one dollar” photo (did he really get one extra dollar?)

Brad Richards being all “Tazer? Kaner?”

Kaner saying he knew Jonny was going to be announced as captain because Jonny was acting differently

Kane, the yin to Toews’ yang, said he noticed Toews looked a little uncomfortable and unusually quiet as he waited.

“I knew something was up,” Kane said with a laugh.

Sure enough, Toews was the last one introduced, the youngest captain in Blackhawks history.

“I got chills for the kid,” Kane said.

[whydisignuponthisgodforsakensite]

Just saw your list of fave Kane/Toews moments,and I think I need a refresher. When did the following things happen: 40. Possibly watching The Pursuit of Happyness together, 42. Patrick likes 1988, 57. Patrick staring at Jonny as he talks with Sharpy, and Patrick calling Jonny the LeBron of the NHL? :) Thanks very much!

Those are some great moments!

40. Here is the screenshot I put together for the poll choice (compiled from posts in my tag the Pursuit of Happyness):

At the end of July, he said he saw the movie the other day. Prospect camp was at the beginning of July (July 2-6), and Kane and Toews were roommates. So maybe Jonny showed Patrick his favourite movie?

42. From Kaner’s old blog:

(I like that both Patrick and his father like 1988.)

57. Sharpy is filming Kaner talking here for the Sharpy Cam. At the beginning of the first gif, you see Kaner look directly at Sharpy, but then the rest of the time he glances at Jonny (who is sitting on Sharpy’s other side) as he’s talking:

Patrick calling Jonny the LeBron of the NHL:

He really looks up to LeBron and he thought of Jonny. <3

[1988ficsearch]

Hallo! Someone was looking for a genderswap! Pat who was pregnant and who was living with a rookie she thought hated her. That's a ficlet by blackeyedgirl (blackeyedgirl-writes on tumblr). It should be in her "other girls verse" tag or in her "my snippets" tag on tumblr. The rookie's name was Simone, and I think the ficlet was an answer to an ask by riverlace. :) Hope that helps!

Oh wow, thank you for the info! I don’t even think i’ve read this story before. Will reblog the ask with updated links! :D

[hiddensymposiarch]

I love how you put the discussion up on tumblr! <3 About the twitter page with the sports teams: a bunch of teenagers are/were doing a youtube series of Anne of Green Gables ala The Lizzie Bennet Diaries, and "Gilbert Blythe" tweets about a team a lot. :) I'd love to see that happen with some of our favorite shows. Reminds me about how in Sherlock, John Watson's blog is a real website. (although no one can comment stuff though).

Also, as I mentioned in our chat, the twitter thing (which probably originated as character tumblrs in fandom to Lizzie Bennet to others) has also been done in the local film industry here. Siblings in a movie all had twitter and would interact with one another for months before the movie came out and also helped serve as promo. There's a Little Women version of the Lizzie Bennet Diaries (LBD) on youtube now that's doing the same thing. Pretty exciting to see!

Ahhhh! This all sounds so awesome. Gilbert Blythe tweeting about sports teams, I love it!! And YES I do love John’s blog, it’s great fun to see the characters interact with each other in the comments. But I think it would be even more awesome if he were here on tumblr and sometimes interacted with fans as well, within the 4th wall of course.

[hiddensymposiarch]

"And now I’m not sure if I feel differently because I really want to read RPF or because it has become normalized to me or because I have actually changed my opinion for principled reasons." THIS IS SO ME. I was ACTUALLY thinking about it the other day, and I was wondering what changed about RPF or about me that made my opinion on it different. Was it just because I became into it? Or did playing around more in RPF make me learn something and realize that RPF was okay?

And as for the confronting thing, yeah, true. Tbh, I used to think that it was okay if the "real people" saw and talked about fandom things and that the overreaction was just on the fandom's part (like the LOCK EVERYTHING UP kinda reaction). But I think that that's what makes RPF special/okay - the freedom to do whatever to these characters with the reassurance - false or otherwise - that your piece of fiction isn't inadvertently hurting anyone, esp. those who may misunderstand the RPF context.

This is why I’m so grateful to all the people who pointed out that historical figures are often fictionalized, and that every movie based on true events is also RPF. THANK GOD BECAUSE I WANT TO READ ABOUT SIDNEY CROSBY FALLING IN LOVE WITH EVGENI MALKIN 800 TIMES IN A ROW AND I DON’T WANT TO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT IT. (Yeah yeah Harry and Louis too ;)

I do understand the “lock everything up” feeling, especially on the part of authors, but at the same time I understand the logic of, “as long as we keep it in fandom spaces, if they choose to look for it that’s their decision.”

[hiddensymposiarch]

I replied to your post before I saw the discussion on your blog, and now I'm super excited because this is one of the things I've often mulled over. (OMG, I just read the "I lowkey think Tyler Seguin is gay" part. YES because I've literally seen that sentence on a public post before and even though I wanted to talk about it more (because I agreed), I didn't feel comfortable discussing it on a public account.) Anyway, yes, I come from a pretty strange perspective here because I used to...

disapprove of RPF and RPS, but then I found myself in Hockey RPF and then in the 1D fandom. For a while, I didn't see the point of the fourth wall, too, because I felt like random stories on the internet (I feel like this is sacrilege, in a way) wouldn't really hurt anything, esp. a millionaire athlete. But I feel like I'm starting to appreciate the fourth wall more now, with the possible exception of the 1D fandom bec. I feel like a significant portion of its fanbase grew from shipping.

Okay I’m taking the Tyler conversation into private since that seems to be the consensus on what is best.

Otherwise - same! Before I was in the 1D fandom the idea of RPF totally creeped me out. And now I’m not sure if I feel differently because I really want to read RPF or because it has become normalized to me or because I have actually changed my opinion for principled reasons.

I do think it’s harmless as long as they aren’t forced to confront it. And when interviewers do force that issue, I think that’s on them rather than on the fandom. It’s easy to make fun of fandom and fannish activities such as fanfic, but I don’t think it’s right for members of the media to do so and I definitely don’t think it’s right for them to put people on the spot and force them to discuss or read fanfic. :/

[daysundercover]

Real talk: They went from "I HAVE A GIANT CRUSH ON YOU, AND I DON'T REALLY CARE WHO KNOWS" TO "WE'RE MARRIED AND I DON'T CARE WHO DOESN'T KNOW BECAUSE EITHER WAY WE'RE STILL SO MARRIED" IN A SPAN OF THREE YEARS. I'M EMOTIONAL.

REAL TALK: THEY REALLY DON’T FUCKING GIVE A SHIT WHO KNOWS!

They are the realest thing! They are realer than my student loans!

[daysundercover]

I THOUGHT I WAS DONE HAVING FEELINGS, BUT NO BECAUSE THAT TEA. HEADCANON BUT ACTUALLY REAL LIFE - LOUIS MADE THAT TEA FOR HARRY BECAUSE HE'S TOPS AT MAKING TEA AND ALSO BECAUSE HIS BABY'S SICK AND I ALMOST TYPED DICK BECAUSE FREUDIAN SLIPS. THEY ARE SO MUCH MORE SUBTLE THAN 2012. THEY WENT FROM GIANT CRUSH TO SO MARRIED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MY HANDS???

DUDE THEY ARE SO MARRIED!

And since they are probably both sick, that was Louis’ cup before he made a fresh cuppa for Harry.