#tmes

[spacestorm-rowdy]

HEY, dipshit!

Black men and black women are both oppressed for being black.

But black women have a different experience from black men when it comes to the type of oppression they face, although there are consistent similarities.

Black women are oppressed for being black WOMEN, as well as BLACK women.

But black men are also oppressed for being black MEN, as well as BLACK men.

You with me? You keeping up? 👋🏽

Now

Trans men and trans women are both oppressed for being TRANS.

But TRANS women have a different experience from TRANS men when it comes to the type of oppression they face, although there are consistent similarities.

trans women are oppressed for being trans WOMEN, as well as TRANS women.

But trans men are also oppressed for being trans MEN, as well as TRANS men.

it's not a difficult fucking concept and yet, you people feel the need to dedicate yourself to fucking misery. Get good

[0w0tsuki]

The TME Transmisoginy Discourse Playbook:

"Your emotions are valid. It sucks that you had to go through that. But the thing is there's just ONE or TWO points I think I can disprove to show that you actually have no fucking clue what your talking about and shouldn't be speaking to begin with. Anyways here's my 10+ paragraph take down analysis response"

"Hey could you not talk about your own oppression like ever? Your LITERALLY just infighting and are the sole responsibility for the divide in the queer community. So now I'm going to exclude you for being an exclusionist "

"DUDE what's the transfem crusade about THIS WEEK?! Y'all are just overreactive hysterical cunts just LOOKING for anthills to blow out of proportions into mountains. Calm down. It's not that deep. Log off. Touch grass"

*Constructs a Beaddel strawman to argue against that's actually just a transmisoginistic caricature and shove words into the mouth of anyone who points out that your strawmanning*

*Look through OP's blog to find anything that you can screenshot to use to write them off out of hand without genuinely having to engage with them*

(Enlightened Centrist Voice) "Worry not fellow discoursers. For I am a neutral third party who's uninvolved in this discourse so I am the perfect one to provide a LEVEL HEADED opinion on this discourse that I have absolutely zero stake in" *Proceeds to spout the most biased and transmisoginistic garbage you've ever heard*

"Don't you know that cis butches sometimes get mistaken for trans women and harassed by TERFs? Don't you know that cis dudes are sometimes punished by their peers for being a little effeminate? SEE?! Transmisoginy affects EVERYONE! So that TME/TMA distinction your using has no rhetorical value and is actually and indication of how divisive your being "

"Hey I am a part of the identity group that you're claiming to have experienced transmisoginy from a subset of and instead of taking this as a call to work to make my community better by discouraging that subset as a member of their community, I'm going to interpret this post as a wide sweeping attack on my community and me personally."

"Hey you're literally taking this out of context and trying to construct your own narrative. This discourse is CLEARLY referencing (separate post that all the transfems in the discourse already knew about that doesn't debunk the transmisoginy being discussed/change the narrative and sometimes even make the transmisoginy even worse)

[shinesbeforeshe]

[meow]

[miyanoyoshi]

Okay so I'm seeing a rise of a very particular type of posting lead by TMEs that's really getting under my skin and i want to address it. I am TME myself so i can't speak for people affected by transmisogyny, but I feel like i should say SOMETHING at the very fucking least.

Okay so i keep seeing a term called "Transandrophobia" thrown around and i guess it seems inconspicuous (it really isn't though), but then it's usually always paired with "transmisandry" which literally doesn't fucking exist for one, but for two it insinuates that TMAs are oppressors of TMEs which is not the case.

Discussing the demonization of masculinity and perceived masculinity or misogyny they experience is something that many of these TMEs focus on too, but they do it in a way that completely leaves TMAs out of the discussion despite TMAs being specifically effected by BOTH of these things.

I don't want any transfems to get harassed from this post, so I'm making sure names are not mentioned. I will however not blur out the blog who made the post. At this point i know you all don't really go out of your way to harass TMEs in these situations also this person is very much a perpetrator of transmisogyny so I don't feel the need to.

[ID: Tumblr user transgentleman-luke says "So are we ready to talk about transandrophobia being encouraged by big-name transfeminine authors yet? Censored name's latest essay was pretty decent- until she decided to include the hashtag #NotAllTransGuys in one of her paragraphs, in which she insinuates that trans men speaking about their experiences with misogyny are being transmisogynistic by… speaking about what we have faced." There is a screenshot of the transfem's article it reads "understandable (if infuriating) that some trans male/masculine people may play up their female socializations and the misogyny they've experienced in the past in order to cast themselves as victims of the patriarchy, without realizing that this particular framing insinuates that trans female/feminine people are the patriarchy" End ID]

I'm not going to spend the rest of the post using screenshots of what he (the Tumblr user) said because he goes on for the whole post focusing on this one paragraph because this transfem author didn't word some things right. But literally all the author is pointing out is that TMEs often use what misogyny they have and do experience to completely disregard transmisogyny or act as though they are just as effected as TMAs by misogyny which is very much not the case. And to top it, yes TMEs do insinuate that TMAs are the patriarchy just because TMEs are effected by patriarchy too. The term transmisandry being used alongside transandrophobia makes that very fucking evident, because misandry is women holding power over men, and therefore this frames TMAs as the oppressors. And so does transandrophobia.

[0w0tsuki]

Damn TMEs really do think that if they replace "trap" with "femboy" when making trap jokes that that magically undoes all the deep rooted transmisogyny and not you know. Reaffirming transfems of the belief that most femboys/femboy likers are just the trap/sissy community rebranded.

[shinesbeforeshe]

[i hate him]

[shinesbeforeshe]

[i think i have an issue, either that or there’s a problem with my system lol]