#tommy crit

[ccbeeduo]

tommy got a little ableist with the stupid narcissist and psychopathy tests but like whatever famous cishet white man i cant reasonably expect him to be more woke about that

[aereta]

no offense, but who on earth is the target audience for tommy’s videos now?

he recently released a video about taking different online tests and its… not tasteful.

he took different tests like the autism test and lgbtq tests.

it feels like he’s just attempting to pander to the majority of minorities in his fandom since his fandom has a large percentage of autistic and lgbtq+ fans. but that doesn’t have any soul. genuinely who on earth are these videos for?

videos like these just feel like he’s attempting to capitalize on the people who run his fandom, austistic people and lgbtq+ people. the issue is that nothing is gained from this. he’s baiting his own fans for views with the suggestion that he might be like them and holding it out like a carrot on a stick.

questioning his sexuality? fine. but constantly talking about it in order to get monetary value? it doesn’t strike me as right.

that was already not looking good to me, but bro trying to profit off the AUTISM TEST? HELLLL NO. i feel like i can’t possibly be the only person that sees this as performative and scummy for views.

[trashfangirlsworld]

I feel like criticizing Tommy for what he said yesterday is fair, because even IF you believe dream is innocent you shouldn’t joke about a situation like that, and unfortunately the fact that Tommy tends to not think before he speaks is a flaw of his that he needs to work on. However people demanding once again that ccs drop dream are going to be disappointed, because the sad reality is that even people and ccs outside the fandom for the most part either don’t take it seriously/aren’t even considering it or they’re waiting for more information to take a stance and I’m sure the three past false allegations on other ccs don’t help either, so unless dream is proven 100% guilty nothing is going to change. Personally, if any ccs that I like make content with dream I’m simply not watching it, but I’m not gonna let a potential piece of shit ruin the stuff that I enjoy and bring me comfort especially since I can’t control who ccs are friends with and I never particularly liked him anyway.

[macachee]

Technoblade and Tubbo were treated like NPCs, and not as people, by both their allies and the viewers at the festival.

A general overview of events: Schlatt discovered Tubbo was a spy for Pogtopia, held a festival to execute him under the guise of a grand celebration, and forced Technoblade to do the deed for him, thus introducing mistrust into the organization. Tommy and Wilbur, their allies, stood on the sidelines watching the entire confrontation but failed to help.

Let's start with Tubbo. Tubbo was the spy for Pogtopia. He was the one that was murdered up on the festival stand. He was reassured by both Wilbur and Tommy via whispers in the chat that nothing would happen to him, that nothing would go wrong up on that stage. He paid for this with one of his three canon lives.

Afterwards, although angry at Techno at first, he quickly grew to understand Techno's side of the story, explicitly forgiving him soon after. This could also be to calm the discontent growing rampant through their ranks, but he forgives Techno in front of the others regardless.

Both Wilbur and Tommy show little to no acknowledgment of the validity of Tubbo's forgiveness, and Tommy in particular continues to be actively hostile despite the fact that he did nothing to stop Tubbo's execution. He ignores Tubbo's agency in his decision to forgive Techno, and ends up dying (noncanonically) as a result, due to their fight in the Pit. He acts as if Tubbo's feelings aren't valid, and aren't a factor despite the fact that he was the one the wrongdoing affected, not Tommy.

The fandom often reacts the same way that Tommy does, either ignoring that Tubbo forgave Techno or directly putting words in Tubbo's mouth that he never said. Interpreting people's actions in a way not shown in canon, such as saying Tubbo never truly forgave Techno, in a fanfiction is fine, but using that in an analysis is another.

Looking at Technoblade, we can see a few more examples. Tommy and Wilbur completely ignore the fact that he has both feelings and faults.

At the festival, while constantly sending messages of reassurance to Tubbo, Techno recieves no orders. He stalls as long as he can roughly over five minutes, likely waiting for a rescue or a plan, but no one comes. Wilbur and Tommy assume that he knows what to do, that he would come pre-programmed with a brilliant plan of escape like a machine that can calculate actions perfectly, and without fault. Tommy constantly insists afterwards that Techno could have killed everyone on the stage and escaped with Tubbo, ignoring the fact that Techno is a person, not a god with limitless powers.

While it may have been possible, Techno was scared and unsure of his abilities at the time. He had even remarked earlier that his rocket launcher was a prototype, and he was unsure of its capabilities. Tommy insists that Techno could have just flown out of the situation, despite the fact that it was not physically possible, as he can only due so in the rain. (This also ignores the fact that, had he escaped, he would have left Tubbo to die nonetheless.)

Tommy ignores all concept of emotion (mainly anxiety, fear) or error (believing he could win against an army without an issue), essentially dehumanizing him. Tommy and Wilbur are scared that he is a weapon and they don't know who might be pulling the trigger, them or Schlatt, again ignoring that he is a person with opinions, emotions, and relationships, not an object that can be passed from side to side and cast away if it malfunctions.

When Techno goes along with Wilbur's idea to fight Tommy in pit (which they mutually agree to) in order to cease the conflict between them, Tommy ignores this as well and continues to yell at him, once again ignoring his words and feelings on the matter.

Wilbur, of course, does nothing except provoke Tommy during the entire encounter, showing little to no concern or care for either Tubbo or Techno throughout the entire confrontation.

(This is not even mentioning the fact that Wilbur, Tommy, and Tubbo would have willingly left Techno to die in L'Manburg had Wilbur found and pressed the button).

All of these arguments are ones that I have heard from the fandom as well as the characters. I find it ironic that while one of Techno's main themes is dehumanization and the concept of personhood, the struggle to be seen as a valid person, that while conducting analysis, the fandom largely discards any thoughts, feelings, or emotion he has in any situation, which is one of the classic signs of dehumanization. He is expected to know the best course of action in every situation and carry out those plans perfectly, mechanically. He oftentimes isn't even considered a person by the audience.

To summarize, both Tubbo and Techno's expressed feelings regarding the festival were largely ignored and invalidated by both the characters and the audience, even though they were the ones most heavily affected by the events. They are treated as NPCs, vehicles for a plot instead of fellow allies, or as people.

[lesbooblur]

so sad to me that tommy not only liked fanart of the finale he made that completely invalidated abuse victims but also entirely redirected attention successfully to him having a gf and now will never have to address both him creating a violently unsafe space for abuse victims and him platforming a possible groomer bc nobody will hold him accountable for it anymore

[txbbo]

I've been debating making this because this is definitely not what my blog is known for and I was worried that people wouldn't want to see it, but with the amount of shit im seeing on twitter it's compelled me to make this because I'm so frustrated.

I feel like I could make 100 posts about 'Cancel Culture' and it wouldn't be enough, so I'm just going to focus on what caused me to write this tonight - the Tommy situation. *Warning for a VERY long post below*

To be clear, Tommy has been in 'hot water' on twitter for the past couple weeks, roughly starting with the KSI collaboration where he made a joke about dream stans.

Last week, when the SBI 'exposing account' got made and twitter hyped it up, someone made a Tommy account and made a thread of things he needed to be '''educated''' on: https://twitter.com/idktommyinnit/status/1379158964148002821?s=20

I'll let you read it for yourself (and come to your own conclusion) but to me.... half of this stuff does not require a twitter thread? Breaking it down accusation by accusation:

1) 'The Mexican accent' - the clips show he is clearly only doing it when copying big Q (who famously exaggerates his own accent) and there is zero malicious intent (Big Q is also IN the 3 clips mentioned in the thread, and obviously didn't tell Tommy it was offensive). There's debates in the comments from people who think it is offensive and people who don't, so I'm not trying to pick a side. To avoid accidentally offending anyone, maybe it is best for him to stop, but the way twitter acts as if he was purposefully doing this to offend people is just not true.

2- 'Making a slave joke' - Even saying that feels wrong, because it suggests Tommy is doing something awful. Instead, they are referring to the 'bit' that Tommy, Techno, Tubbo and Ant were involved in, when Tommy and Techno took Tubbo and Ant as their slave. People are taking this vod and using it to accuse Tommy of being insensitive to Black people, but I think people are just assuming the worst. Slavery existed long before the transatlantic slave trade and still exists today. This is a role-play server - Tommy 'forced' Ant to work for him and used the word slave, which to me is exactly what was happening? People 'murder' others on the SMP, people 'kidnap' on the SMP, people are 'terrorists' on the SMP, and all happen without issue. To add, Ant is a WHITE man. Tommy taking a WHITE man as a slave is not something uber problematic.

3- 'His reply to Techno's 'murder is bad' tweet'. - I get people saying that Techno's initial tweet was insensitive, but saying Tommy's agreement to this from almost over a year ago is something notable and worth addressing is just super nitpicky and is clearly only in there to pad out the thread. It also makes me wonder what other CC's interacted with it and if THEY should be cancelled too (according to twitter).

4 - 'The saying slurs' tweet / jokes about 'whats the worst word you know' - This one I can kinda see how people might not like it. However, it's clearly a 'poke' at his friends, making them seem like bad people. To me, its in the same vein as 'Tubbo is a Tory' or when Tubbo shoots back that 'Tommy is a Nigel Farage fan'. They're obviously not, but its making fun of your friends by saying they are, and mockingly making them out out to be bad people.

5- 'Covid jokes' - People are taking jokes he made about him 'having covid' and saying he shouldn't joke about this, even going as far to linking it to asian hate crimes. I don't even know how to explain that that this is just? not a 'cancellable offence'? I'm sorry but if I hear anyone in my family coughing I make a little joke that 'they better not have covid' and I know other people do. I have someone in my family who is extremely vulnerable to Covid and if they caught it, would quite literally die, but I can understand that jokes like these are harmless. The whole internet had a running joke that we were in a 'panoramic' or 'Panera' or 'insert any word that sounds like pandemic.

This thread got a lot of attention and anything he tweeted afterwards was spammed with the link and there were so many people upset that he hadn't addressed it. I saw so many people say how 'upset' and 'disappointed' they were in him.

Going on to today, this happened: https://twitter.com/khasiid/status/1380611890104139776?s=20

I get it, it looks bad. But for context (which the tweet doesn't give), the reply was only up for less than a minute. It was obvious to me, even BEFORE Tommy addressed it in his stream (clip here: https://twitter.com/cowrpse/status/1380640046202593283?s=20 ) that it was a mistake. In the clip, he clearly acknowledges his mistake and seems embarrassed. To me, this situation should just be laid to rest because a mistake does not need this much attention, but twitter disagrees.

In case it wasn't obvious by now, the tide is turning against Tommy and people are less willing to ignore genuine mistakes and assume the worst.

Today, during his birthday stream people were clearly already waiting for him to mess up. Around half way through, he started saying 'finna' out of context and Tubbo joined in. This led to tons of tweets telling him he was misusing AAVE, and while there were plenty of people willing to be patient and educate, there were also people seeing this as an example of him being a 'bad person' and someone who should be 'without a platform'. I think people forget that not everyone has the same internet upbringing as they do. In general, I think its noted that the misuse of AAVE is something that has just recently been brought to attention. I learned about it through tiktok and stan twitter, and I don't think it's unimaginable that a British 17 year old boy (who is not active on either) has never heard of 'African American Vernacular English'.

Just for a fuller picture, today has also brought about another 'criticism' that I just had to address.

1) 'Tommy made a KKK joke' - Like the 'slavery' point, saying this is extremely misleading. It makes people think the worst. Here's the clip: https://twitter.com/ghostburz/status/1380673589612011522?s=20

Here, Tommy and Tubbo are both joking about Tubbo's 'bit' of naming his alt streams 'aaaaaaaaaa', 'bbbbbbb', 'cccccc', etc and how it would've been bad if it was 'kkkkkkkk' (for obvious reasons). That is literally it. It is a less than 20 second clip. Acknowledging that people woulda thought about the 'KKK' is not him 'not understanding Black issues', its a throwaway joke about the obvious.

Lastly, someone on twitter has made a tommyinnit (address asap) doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tZEZtBzikS-EYYkssfFtwVOoFqOwCK0zhStLe6H1wCc/edit

I've basically already covered everything in this document, but I wanted to mention how extremely 'guilt trippy' the whole thing is. I struggled to come up with the perfect word for the situation, and I am open to hearing other peoples opinion, but as I have mentioned none of these things Tommy has been accused of were done with malicious intent, and some I believe don't even need addressed at all.

'slavery is a source of astronomical trauma for black people, and isn’t something to be taken lightly if you’re to look into the horrors of the slave trade."

and "Oftentimes they are the last words we hear before we die and it really is not Tommy’s place to joke about words that affect us so negatively."

Are extremely emotional words for a 17-year-old boy to hear on his birthday, for stuff that I believe has been taken out of context and blown out of proportion.

I really feel bad for him, because such a large proportion of twitter (which ofc is the loudest side of the fanbase) is angry at him and is demanding (as the document says) ''either a stream or twitter thread/twitlonger to addressing this' and 'a long and serious apology instead of a short statement pre-stream'.

We all know how twitter works, and unless his apology is perfect (which to me means apologising for stuff that he should't have to, as explained in the thread), twitter will continue with this weird hyper focus on everything he does, and it's not going to end well.

Twitter's mentality of 'putting everything this person has done that could ever be considered problematic' into one neat little thread is so unhelpful and counter intuitive. I got overwhelmed reading some of the stuff people were saying about him, I can't imagine how he feels.

I feel like I have more to say but at risk of writing an essay longer than my actual work I have to do, I'm going to end here.

[astroninaaa]

controversial take (u don't have to post if u don't want) but lately beeduo streams (and even to an extent benchtrio streams) have felt kinda forced and awkward from the perspective of a tubbo only enjoyer. I feel like people shut him down a lot (especially rboo these days). so I'm grateful that he gets to mess around and be himself with other friends from the bearsmp / sam on the dsmp because it is so much more enjoyable to watch then people "jokingly" getting annoyed at him

no i agree. i completely agree. i feel like lately this weird bit of "tubbo is annoying and everyone wants him to shut up" is going around with ranboo and partially with tommy and other streamers as well and they do it by either shutting tubbo down immediately or acting annoyed enough that he shuts his bits down by himself

i don't mean it in like, a parasocial or a "omg i'm so worried abt tubbo" way bc it's a bit and they're friends and we know nothing about their actual friendships bc we're not parts of it, but all of that really upsets me because i just genuinely enjoy tubbo's bits. like, i think he's one of the funniest, smartest, most genuinely incredible streamers (which is why he's my favorite streamer), and seeing his bits get shut down is like- uh. i wanted to hear that. LIKE LMAOOO I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY I WANTED TO WATCH THE BIT WHY ARE YOU MAKING HIM BE QUIET. I WANT TO HEAR HIM. HE'S FUNNY. LET HIM SPEAK DKJNKSBDFK YK??? YEAH

and idk it just feels very awkward, as you said. and it also upsets me a bit because like- as someone who has been called annoying/irritating/too talkative/too loud/insufferable my entire life, seeing someone else get that type of treatment just all the time, even if through a bit, is a bit upsetting, i guess? i just don't like it which is why i've been enjoying tubbo's solo streams a lot more than his streams with ranboo and i oop-

honestly the bear smp has been such a breeze of fresh air as a tubbo enjoyer like- for one, the people there aren't used to him which makes their interactions just a thousand percent funnier + they just so obviously and genuinely enjoy his company and his presence it's. so refreshing, i guess. they let him do whatever he wants and play along with his bits and when he apologizes for speaking too much or being too loud or being too much or being annoying all of them just tell him it's fine, he's funny, no problem, and it feels. very comfy. also being limitless like that makes tubbo's bits even more hilarious which i didn't think was possible

ALSO!!!!!! AIMSEY!!!!!!!!!! HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH AIMSEY I SWEAR TO GOD IT'S SO FUN TO WATCH. THEIR FRIENDSHIP IS JUST SO INCREDIBLE OKAY. aimsey and tubbo are a tad similar in some ways i believe and watching them interact is just the best, they bounce off each other so well and she's quickly going up my list of favorite streamers bc even when tubbo isn't with her her vibes are just IMMACULATE. bear smp i love you <3 LMAOOO IT'S JUST GREAT IT'S GREAT

anyways yeah anon you're valid and i feel the same sekjfnksjf oops

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[iloveyoumcyt]

I hope someone sits Tommy down, face to face, and explains to him how his grooming jokes are harmful. How his apologies for jokes like that, if he keeps making them, will mean less and less each time. Adjacent to the boy who cried wolf. And this goes for his other jokes, like ones that are low-key or high-key sexist too. And I hope whoever sits him down goes to extra step and explains to him exactly how his jokes hurt actual victims.