#volturi general

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Since gender equality makes up a miniscule of our history (50-60 years in comparison to 2000 years+ of women’s oppression), do u think our male protagonists will still hold some of this view? E.g: objectifying Jessica and imposing traditionally held gender expectations (obedience etc..) on her? It seems unrealistic for these ideologies to just vanish after being so deeply ingrained into their heads. The philosophies on women’s rights from a 21st century American female will surely cause conflict

No - the female vampires are as equally strong as male and some of the strongest vampires in the world are female i.e. Jane, Siobhan who was known to be strong beyond many human male and this ability were more visible as a newborn.

Even in Volturi, the vampires that are the cornerstone of the coven are females: Heidi, Chelsea and Corin. There's Renata who is Aro's personal bodyguard, Jane who are tasked to be the leader of important missions and Aro chose Sulpicia who was just as ambitious and cunning as himself and Didyme went against her brother by choosing Marcus over her clan and family.

The positions of the women they surround themselves with are in anything but the traditional role people expected women to be in the past and even now.

But when it comes to their desire for Jessica's obedience stems from their superiority as vampire and from position of someone with more life experience, wisdom and insights because Jessica need to realise that the moment she became involved, her decision and choice are not bound to her own anymore - it will also affect them and she needs to understand this.

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How long do you think it takes for a vampire to turn?

The venoms work differently for everyone, it’s said:

blood contaminated with venom isn't fully sucked away, the human's heart will pump the venom throughout his or her cardiovascular system and start to infect every cell it passes within the host's body. Over the span of 2-3 days, the venom will have saturated all cells within the host, completing his or her transformation into a vampire. The process is known to be slow and painful, described with the feeling of being burned alive.

It seems how long it takes depends on how much of the blood is left or contaminated and perhaps other factors like if they’re adult or young children. The study of venom as well as some aspect of vampires physiology has been largely neglected in comparison to how long vampires existed to the point that it wasn’t until Bella became pregnant that Volturi realised male vampires can still impregnable human females.

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I only read the Twilight books and never watch the movie. i can't help to see Alec and Jane as a 13 years old forever vampire. I know it's not the case in your fanfic but I can't help it. Btw, is Jessica gonna to sleep with all the Volturi ?Just wondering... not judging.

It won’t steer too much from the original in terms of pairing so not all the Volturi.

As for physical aspect of characters, I prefer basing them on movies meaning Alec by Cameron Bright and Jane as Dakota Fanning - I understand where you’re coming from because I was like that before the movies came out. I’d say try and watch the movies at least Volturi scenes to get immersed into the characters but remember that vampires moral is very different to humans:

I’ve wrote in one of my story chapter:

"Now I myself is someone who believes have what one would consider 'knowing basic right and wrong' to live in this day and age as a 'normal' person. Of course, what's right and wrong are influenced by our culture, education and traditions as history. Philosophy had shown us the ever changing norms parallel to time and technology and this is firmly rooted in our mind that it's difficult to change our views.

To answer why I am writing this warning is because this chapter and future chapters will contain themes of infidelity, non-monogamous relationships and implication of sexual nature that may be considered heretical in its nature and many readers may find reading such things disturbing and controversial but I ask of you, dear readers, to keep open minded.

I try to understand that vampires are beings who have 'died' as humans and were reborn as something resembling an animal disguised in human skin that mainly acts on primal instinct and therefore cannot be expected to adhere to norms and morality set by humans and its society. Even in books, they are coded as predator.

Vampires in Twilight has their own rules and laws, along with its entirely different ruling government and when I read all four books, I noticed it was always a pair and I presume this was more influenced by the writer's religious belief.

Vampires have no concept of time or age or morals or ethics the way humans have. Vampires – Volturi in particular, were born from various ages where morals, ethics and what defined adulthood/childhood were very different, ranging from Ancient Greece to Middle Ages to Enlightenment era to Victorian era to modern period. Humans judge by people's appearance because it gives you an idea of what sort of person they are: age, ethnicity, gender, social class, personality traits and even physical strength. The book says when they become a vampire, this is stripped away – their skin colours are bleached away and their human side becomes dormant. In the case of Alec and Jane, they are known as the strongest vampires in the world because of their power regardless that they were turned so young. Age/physical appearance becomes unreliable source in judging how old and how strong vampires are.

To Jessica, she might simply see Alec as a young boy because she cannot separate human age to vampire age. To other vampires, Alec's physical age doesn't matter, what matters is which coven he belongs to, what power and how old he has been alive.

TL:DR: So I hope that you guys understood where I'm coming from and that you remember that vampires and humans are entirely different creatures with different morals and ethics. Age and physical appearance doesn't matter as much to vampires than to human.

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We don't really know why Gianna died in the story because her character is very minor in the book, however in your story will we find out the reason why she was killed off? Did they just come to a conclusion that it was her time to go and they figured they needed a more 'fresh face'? Or did she do something stupid? Like those girls who started working after her. I believe Valentina was killed because she walked in on them feeding and Bianca spelled Carlisle's name wrong.

I think it’s combination of Gianna getting restless (although she doesn’t voice it out, Aro is sharp enough to see it without using his power) and simple drill of changing the secretaries every few years or so. But this also applies to every secretaries that works for Volturi.

Imagine being promised you might be offered immortal youth/beauty, few years past but during it you keep a good, healthy diet and exercise, follow the rules, dress and work diligently in hope you impress them, be nonchalant as you see groups of soon-to-be-eaten human basically dedicate your life to Volturi forgoing your family and friends and other relationship. 

It’s a very lonely, isolated life that they signed up for and whilst it was their own choice to sign up for it, they can’t simply resign by handing in their resignation and they have no choice in leaving. And anyone in that position, it’s too late to turn back so they are more motivated to become a vampire. What’s use of all that sacrifice when you gain nothing from it?

Yet there seem to be no sign of you about to be turned vampire any time soon, time flies and as you grow more older each year, you could see new set of lines appearing in your face and nothing seems to come to fruition. 

Humans are patient but to a degree, few years might seem very little time to wait for vampires but not to humans. So to avoid dealing with the trouble that comes with it, Volturi replaces the secretary every few years. It’s new face, new start and it buys them few more years of dangling that promise to new secretaries desperate to prove their worth before they get impatient.  

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Hi! I love you stories, and honestly I’m addicted to your style of writing as an author. Not a big fan of black butler but read it because it was your story. Anyways, do you think the volturi hosts balls/galas and if so, how would Jessica ( human or vampire) fit in to the whole fiasco.

Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏!!! Aww woah, I always feel honoured by asks like this 😭😭😭❤️

Hmm, I think in the past they did and they mingled freely with the humans (the upper class at least) seeing Francesco Solimena painted them overlooking a revelry. But in the modern days, no. Perhaps they do with vampires, but not with humans anymore. 

For me, even if they do host something akin to a gala/ball it’d very..formal and not as exciting as ones with humans and very, very rare. With vampires, you have to send out a invitation (how are secretaries going to track down nomads? Unless they send Demetri out just to say ‘hey, we’re having this little get-together at this date and time in the castle, RSVP?’ I don’t think they’d send Demetri out for something so trivial and ‘wasting’ his gift), limited number of vampires in the world and it’d be quite boring because the law dictates they stay away or limit their interaction with humans to very necessity so there won’t be much to talk about because Aro probably knows everything that’s going on in the vampire community. Besides, Volturi’s are respected yet feared throughout the world so some might not even enjoy this ‘party’. 

So whatever audience Volturi holds with other vampires won’t be like ball/galas but something like that nomad case with Alec and Jane - where the passing nomad alerted Aro of human Alec and Jane’s extraordinary powers. From time to time, vampires will hold audience with Aro, Caius and Marcus to deliver any information of interest whether it’d be gifted humans, suspicions in regard to both vampires/humans, human advancements in technology/weaponry, vampire wars/conflicts etc., anything that needs to be investigated or considered. 

My headcanon on how they got passed fraternising with humans is that the guide states vampires’ eyes darkens the more time they go without blood and this process takes one to two weeks before the eyes are turned completely black. Perhaps this is what they did? Waited until their eyes were not so crimson - this doesn’t mean they waited full 1-2 weeks because they don’t want to take the risk and only very few that could be trusted to control themselves were allowed to join - just waited until it darkened to acceptable, passable human eyes colours. Seeing crimson is faded to black, I think the darkening of colours could be something like: crimson --> burnt umber (or something like no. 12)--> dark brown (no. 11) --> coal black.

And the process of going from crimson to no.12 could take as short as three days or five days but less than a week or little over a week. 

I reckon this might be different to individual vampires by the vague timeline so we could say maximum is 2 weeks that every vampires would be expected to have black eyes but not everybody will have black eyes by the 1st week of abstaining from blood. 

Is it because some vampires have faster metabolism? Could it be that those who are gifted needs more blood/metabolise blood faster? 

For me, I think this could be one of few physiological differences between each vampires Like humans, we all have different calorific needs, athletes needs significantly higher amount of calories to fuel both their sports performance and their growth. 

In vampires, using or even simply the act of having gifts itself takes more of their energy compared to average vampires with no gifts.

Another could be their activity levels, in order of feeding frequency: nomads > semi-nomads (someone who stays in area until they need to move out for whatever reasons i.e. humans suspicion usually) and vegetarians > a vampire with fixed abode/territory (i.e. Volturi).

Age? In humans, as we get older, the number of calories needed is usually less than when we were younger because basic body processes require less energy when there is a decline in physical activity and loss of muscles.

If we adapt this into vampires, younger/newborns are mentioned to have:

insatiable hunger for blood which diminishes as they get older

always stronger than older ones, since their strength derives from the lingering human blood left in their body from their human life.

So with this fact, we could surmise that the older the vampires, the better their control of thirst and could also limit the frequency of feeding to necessity if they wish so. So Marcus, Aro, Caius, Demetri, perhaps Felix, Chelsea, Corin, Renata, Heidi and perhaps the Wives were those who were allowed to interact with the humans in the balls/galas they hosted in the past. Modern humans are more likely to Instagram, Tweet, Facebook, Snapchat these unusually beautiful vampires and suddenly every modelling agencies are searching for them online, uploading snapshots asking their followers to help find out about them. Alec and Jane? Young, yet to debut in the society, less certain on the control they have around humans and their general disinterest in adult affairs meant they never interacted with humans on personal level.

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I would love to see the Volturi (probably the guard, Demetri, Felix, Alec, Jane) play with the Cullens in a baseball match and Jessica and Bella watching or probably even partaking in it!

Omggggggg I would so love to see that too!! Imagine if that was a scene in the movie I’d die 😩😩😩 because it was the best scene in Twiliht imo and it’s one of what I’d put down as one of rare vampire cultures that you get the glimpse of in the movie/novel.

I mean when you become a vampire, I like to think your memory of life as a human becomes forgotten in line with the ‘reborn’ metaphor (you die as human and be reborn as something not human) so all that cultural knowledge you had becomes forgotten or at the very least, abandoned so there’s not much things vampires can call their own when it comes to their culture. For me, that baseball match but with few tweaks in rules and environment was really profound on what vampires do for entertainment.

On the other hand, I can imagine Felix and Demetri being a great working team that would crush Edward and Emmett while Jane and Alec goes up against Alice and Rosalie with Carlisle and Esme (and perhaps Aro too) being the referee and peace maker in case the game gets too intense. The game would probably last a week before any winners emerge 😂 for Bella and Jessica, I think for the first few days, it’d be great amusement but they’d get so bored so fast because it’s like when will this ever end 😩😩

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What style do you think the volturi castle is? I know the whole town is Etruscan so the exterior is going to be Etruscan based. But the interior, is Greco-roman, baroque, gothic?

Hmm for me, it’s mixture of three for their appreciation of these eras. Since castles are quite old, it’s undeniable it needs regular upkeep and I’m sure it went through some re-constructions throughout the years they lived in. The bedrooms are Greco-roman styles, state room is baroque and any other rooms is baroque/gothic.

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Do you think the volturi always wears those suits or whatever Or do you think they sometimes put on modern/casual clothes or would they even like the kind of style that was popular among humans lol

In my mind, unless they are on the mission or partaking in business, their uniform policy would probably very lax so types of clothing they wear is purely down to their personal taste and preference. I think Demetri is very aware of modern fashions and the ‘it’ of the season, while Felix don’t really care much for fashion so you’d often see him in nondescript, dark shirt and trousers. In the book, Alec was said to wear pearly suit despite his high rank, hence I suspect Alec chose that particular clothing simply because he liked it. Jane likes ribbons so she’d have different sort of ribbons customised onto her dresses.