#wenclairtoxic

[allpaws000]

Why I Prefer Weyler Over Wenclair,I prefer Weyler over Wenclair because most Weyler fans see Wednesday the way she has always been portrayed throughout the years, strong, stubborn, dark-hearted, intelligent, and independent. They don’t just defend the relationship between Tyler and Wednesday they protect the personalities of both characters.With Weyler, Wednesday feels more feminist and powerful. She is always in control, always leading, and that is exactly why we love this ship. In Weyler, Wednesday is portrayed as the stronger figure, while Tyler is simply her lover, someone who protects her, stands beside her, and is not threatened by her strength. Together, they look powerful as a duo, the kind of couple people would genuinely fear because of their combined presence, not because one dominates the other.That’s why I don’t choose Wenclair.In many Wenclair fan arts and interpretations, Wednesday is turned into an “omega girl” who serves an “alpha Enid.” She is made softer, more feminine, and is often forced into colorful, bright aesthetics, even though Wednesday is canonically uncomfortable with exactly those things. She is allergic to that kind of forced sweetness and exaggerated femininity.Wenclair fans often focus only on elevating Enid’s character, making her stronger and more dominant, while Wednesday is slowly stripped of her power and independence. Instead of balancing both characters, Wednesday becomes weaker, quieter, and more dependent which completely contradicts who she is.Another reason I prefer Weyler is that Tyler doesn’t erase Wednesday’s individuality. He doesn’t overshadow her, soften her, or reshape her to fit a trope. He adapts to her world, not the other way around. In contrast, Wenclair interpretations often reshape Wednesday to fit Enid’s brightness, rather than respecting Wednesday’s darkness.For me, a good ship should enhance both characters without sacrificing either of their core personalities. Weyler does that. Wenclair, too often, does not.That’s exactly why I prefer Weyler over Wenclair. Thanks if you're reading this ❤️

[allpaws000]

Bro why are wenclair fans so toxic? 😭 Wenclair fans keep calling us homophobes like it’s their full-time job, and honestly? It’s getting embarrassing at this point. 😭

What did we even do? We like a different ship. That’s it. That’s the crime. Apparently having your own opinion now equals homophobia? Be serious. 💀

They drag “homophobia” into every argument because they literally have nothing else to say. How does me not shipping Wenclair make me a homophobe?? It doesn’t. It’s just the easiest word they can throw around when they run out of actual points.

And the funniest part? They even call LGBT people homophobic just for not shipping Wenclair.

Then when someone goes, “I’m literally a lesbian,” they suddenly go silent. Like… what now? Where’s the logic? Exactly there isn’t any.

Their arguments are always the same, recycled, and honestly… boring.

“Tyler threw Wednesday out the window!!”

Yeah, we know. We watched the show too.But maybe try watching the entire show and not two clips? Because Wednesday herself doesn’t even react the way they expect us to react. And the story literally sets him up as a manipulated Hyde, but sure keep pretending that’s the only thing that matters.

“If Enid was a boy you’d ship her with Wednesday!” No??? If I wanted Wednesday with a sweet, kind, soft boy, I’d ship her with Xavier. Obviously.

But thanks for assuming you know everyone’s sexuality and preferences better than they do. 💀

“Wyler fans are just jealous!!”Girl, jealous of what exactly? We’re just vibing with our ship, you’re the ones foaming at the mouth every time someone disagrees with you. If anyone’s pressed here, it’s not us.

And the biggest clown move? When you actually give them a real argument like talking about character arcs, narrative parallels, or Wednesday’s development they suddenly “can’t see your comment” or they straight up delete your replies on TikTok.

Like… okay. If your ship can’t survive a discussion, maybe that’s not my problem.

So yeah, I don’t get why they throw the homophobia label at everyone. It’s just a lazy way to shut people up. Not liking Wenclair isn’t homophobia it’s taste. You don’t call someone “cinemaphobic” for not liking a horror movie. Ships work the same way. Thanks if you're reading this and please Copy this and share it with everyone if you don't mind. Love ya❤️

[allpaws000]

Ohhh, where do I even start with Wenclair fans? They try SO hard to turn Wednesday addams, Wednesday freakin’ Addams of the sharpest, darkest, most badass girls on TV, into some cute, clueless y/n who apparently can’t do a single thing without her “CEO alpha” Enid guiding her through breathing. Like… SERIOUSLY?? 🤯 I LOVE Enid, she’s an alpha, she’s amazing, she’s queen-level power like get it guuurl🤩 BUT the way they turn Wednesday into this lost toddler who needs hand-holding 24/7? It’s embarrassing. Do they even watch the show or just scroll fanfic and think it counts?? 😭The cast literally works their butts off to make Wednesday a complex, intimidating, dark-aura queen sharp, witty, scary-smart and these fans? They reduce her to a wet paper bag of uwu energy. Yes, a WET PAPER BAG respects Wednesday’s character more than Wenclair stans do. Like, come on, she’s a force of nature and they treat her like a sidekick in her own story.And the funniest part? They scream “feminism!” while simultaneously flattening Wednesday into a personality-less accessory for their favorite alpha girl. It’s peak hypocrisy. If that’s feminism, I’m starting a cult of paper bags. 🫠 Seriously, they’ve got Wednesday’s character all twisted, like “look, she’s helpless now, isn’t that cute?” NO. Wednesday doesn’t need cute. She doesn’t need hand-holding. She’s literally the girl who walks through a storm and the storm apologizes for bothering her.

Wenclair fans be like: “We love Wednesday!” Translation: “We love Wednesday… as long as she’s useless, soft, and exists solely to validate Enid’s CEO vibes.” It’s sad, it’s hilarious, it’s tragic, and honestly… I can’t even. And then they're asking me why I hate the ship?... Girl like? I love enid, when I'm hating on wenclair that doesn't mean I hate her, she's One of my favourite characters and if she dies I die too. But the wenclair fan are just... 😭 So annoying, not all of them but 90% are the same... Like they even ship the actors and Imagine yourself in Jenna and Emma's shoes. How uncomfortable they are now, they're not even the friends they used to be, and it breaks my heart.🥺💔 Wanclair's Fans are going too far and everyone should say so They're also hating on Hunter, they're saying we are the homophobic but the only homophobic is YOU girl... For saying alllllll the time that hunter is gay... Like we know? He's my favourite actor and I love him I love jenna ANDD I LOOOVE emma more than you think. So please if you ship wenclair, okay? I don't care but respect someone else ships too and the actors too if you hate tyler why are u hating on hunter too? Like please just think about it and then say whatever you want.

[allpaws000]

When I say I hate wenclair I don't mean Wednesday and enid I mean their weirdo ass fans💀 I will never stop hating on them because they're the most delulu and fucking dumbass People ever and if u are not one of them congrats 👏 they twist something dumbass things in wyler and that's why I'm mad like they only seeing toxic on wyler and THAT'S why I'm getting angry. FUCK THEM.

[allpaws000]

I swear, one thing I will never understand is why Wenclair fans act like they’re running some kind of recruitment agency 😭

You can’t even breathe near a Wyler edit without one of them sliding in like:

“Omg I like the edit but not the ship 😍 maybe make it Wenclair instead??”

Girl… NO. Read that again. NO.

And the editor politely says, “I don’t ship Wenclair but thanks,” and suddenly the Wenclair army appears in the replies like:

“You should join us!! Come to our side!!! Wenclair is better!!!”

Why do they want us THAT badly?? Are they bored? Understaffed? Or do they think converting a Wyler shipper is some kind of spiritual achievement???Every time I try to say something normal, they respond with the SAME annoying line:

“Just switch to Wenclair.”Oh sure, let me drop my entire ship because YOU said so. Totally.

If I wanted Wenclair I would’ve been there before the pilot episode even ended 😭But no I’m here for wyler, for the story, for the chemistry, for the intensity, for the ACTUAL writing.

"I prefer Quality over quantity" Always.😉And the funniest part? They accuse us of being “homophobic” because we don’t ship THEIR fave 💀Like be for real. We’re not scared of LGBT characters, we literally just don’t ship those two. It’s not that deep.But THEY?They treat straight ships like they’re “outdated” or “automatically boring” because someone on TikTok told them Wednesday MUST be gay and therefore anything straight is “invalid.”They don’t pick ships based on chemistry, they pick them based on whatever gets the most points on social media.And then they turn around and pretend THEY’RE the inclusive, peaceful, tolerant side.

Oh please.They’re doing the exact same thing they scream at us about except instead of hating same-gender ships, they’re allergic to anything straight.But sure, WE’RE the villains 🙄

If Wenclair is truly that “iconic,” why do they spend half their time trying to drag other shippers into their circle?

Why does your “perfect, superior, magical” ship need new members so desperately?If it was really that legendary, people would join on their own, you wouldn’t need to beg for recruits like it’s a fandom MLM.

And honestly?It’s giving desperation.It’s giving insecurity.It’s giving “our ship relies on peer pressure to survive.” and other bla bla bla 🤏🏿 thanks if you're reading this and Guys please don't be scared if someone started argument about the wenclair if they can protect their ship by dragging something lie we can do that too except we don't lie we see, we write exactly what's right ❤️

[allpaws000]

Bro I literally saw on tiktok some girl saying that tyler and fester has the same value💀 and she also said that the Addams family doesn't like torture, she said they're just joking and nothing more...like what? She also said that Tyler is not a good fit for the Addams Family because he is too dangerous. She also said that the Addams Family may have tortured each other, but only for fun and jokes And the Addams Family aren't psychopaths And they don't like others torturing the Addams family, and they don't like serial killers.... what?. Okay let's start with this. The Addams Family took on a nanny who is a murderer... and before you say that the Addams Family didn't know that Debbie was a murderer, anyone who says that is an idiot... sorry, not sorry. It doesn't matter what kind of appearance you have, whether it's a dark appearance or a sweet and charming girl's appearance, they always feel who the right people for their family are. When they were looking for a nanny for their home, they couldn't find anyone suitable for them. They felt their weakness and fear, and then when they saw Debbie, they immediately realized that she was the right nanny for them. And why do you think Tyler isn't a good fit for their family? In season 2, Morticia was telling Wednesday not to wake up the monster in Tyler because they think Wednesday really hates him, but If Wednesday decided to interact with him, they would accept him as their family member. Now let's talk about "They may say they like torture, but they only say it as a joke. If someone else tortured the Adams family, they wouldn't accept it." Like what? She literally has watched " Addams Family value " and still saying something like this? Let's talk about Debbie again. she literally wanted to kill whole addams family but they still liked her and nothing in there is joke they just like Torture. I think in the first or second movie they tortured Morticia.But no matter how much they tormented Morticia, she liked it all. and how is "kooky and lighted hearted jokes" When Wednesday and Pugsley wanted to kill his little brother? They dropped something big from the top floor to hit his little brother on the head. If Debbie hadn't been there to pull the kid out, he would have been dead.💀 so her theory or whatever isn't right, she just think everything what she said is right. now let's talk about tyler and fester. fester addams. He had a family, a history, real memories with them. The only reason he wasn’t with them was because he forgot. That’s it. The second his memories came back, he went home. Simple. tyler, on the other hand, is a completely different case, and comparing him to Fester is honestly disrespectful to what his character went through.Tyler wasn’t “lost.”He wasn’t “confused about who he was.”He was used.He was manipulated.He was controlled, literally mind-controlled, by someone who treated him like a weapon instead of a human being.People forget that Hydes don’t get choices.A Hyde doesn’t wake up and decide, “Oh yeah, I feel like doing this today.”No. A Hyde obeys.Whoever their master is whatever command they give the Hyde follows. Because they’re forced to.And the moment Wednesday found out he was the monster?She didn’t even stop to think. She tortured him too. She added more pain on top of everything he was already going through. And yes, he got angry who wouldn’t? He’s been controlled, broken, pushed, and then blamed for things he had zero power over.Meanwhile Fester?He wasn’t.controlled by anyone.He wasn’t tortured.He wasn’t brainwashed.He was just dealing with memory loss. So truly, why are people comparing Fester and Tyler?One was a missing family member who forgot who he was.The other was a prisoner inside his own mind, forced to act out someone else’s violence.These characters are not the same, not even close.So please stop putting them in the same category. Thanks if you're reading this ❤️

[allpaws000]

I love my babies 💗 💗 💗 💗 💗 💗 One thing that I genuinely don't understand is how everyone claims that Tyler was manipulating Wednesday from the very beginning. If that were actually true, then why would he ever help her escape from Jericho? If Laurel was already controlling Tyler at that point, he would never have allowed Wednesday to leave, because without Wednesday’s blood, Laurel couldn’t complete the ritual. Letting her go would have directly gone against Laurel’s entire plan. On top of that, Tyler willingly gave Wednesday access to her father’s files from the police station. That wasn’t something he was forced to do it was a choice. And that choice matters, because it’s one of the main reasons Wednesday started to like him in the first place. Tyler was stubborn, and we all know how stubborn Wednesday is. Usually, no one can handle that side of her. People either give up or try to control her. Tyler did neither he endured it.What Wednesday saw in Tyler was someone who didn’t care about power, status, or control. He wasn’t easily bribed, intimidated, or manipulated. When they first met, their stubbornness immediately clashed. Wednesday even offered Tyler $40 to quit his job on the spot and leave with her, fully expecting him to give in. But Tyler didn’t. He stood his ground and proved that he was just as stubborn as she was and that was the moment Wednesday backed down.That’s exactly why Wednesday didn’t want Tyler to die and become nothing more than a servant to the masters. There’s even that deleted scene from season 2, where Wednesday is being buried alive. Tyler speaks, and Wednesday responds, “will you keep obeying the masters? Yeah, of course you are.” That line alone shows how she sees him not as a monster, but as someone who’s been used.Wednesday felt sympathy for Tyler as a human being. He was someone who had principles, who didn’t want to hurt others, and who deserved more than a life of being controlled. She didn’t want him to remain just another tool for the masters. That’s why she didn’t kill him and that’s why Wednesday likes Tyler. Thanks if you're reading this ❤️

[allpaws000]

I want to talk again about the girl who said that a “first kiss” means nothing for Wednesday Addams. People forget that Tyler wasn’t her first kiss and not her first crush either. Her first crush was Joel, and even though they didn’t have a real kiss, it was still considered her first kiss.

With Tyler, however, she had an actual, real kiss.And before anyone says, “That was in Addams Family Values, not Wednesday” how many characters named Wednesday Addams exist? Only one. In every universe and every adaptation, she is still Wednesday Addams.

Then I commented in her video and said, “If a kiss means nothing, then a hug means nothing, eye contact means nothing, and nothing means anything at all,” she made a video saying, “all I said was .”

All you said that kissing someone doesn't means anything so I just turned your argument around and responded to it. If hearing others arguments upsets you, then maybe don’t post videos and say things that don’t make sense.I don't have a problem with that girl she's just a wenclair fan but what I don't understand is if you ship wenclair and your account is about wenclair why are u talking about wyler so much? And you even hating on hunter too like the only toxic is here is you not wyler at this point.