#whorewhouse

[ginkgo-shaw]

i wouldve started biting and hissing like a feral cat. and then maybe laid down in a forest somewhere and not move for a week 😔

sam really is too kind and forgiving. and i know he loves his brother more than anything but dean was way out of line here 😭

and you’re right. you would have the perfect reaction.

[pregnancykink]

but also the way she said that knowing full well she was a dean replacement while he was gone 😭 she's on to them

GOD TRUE skshskdnd put her in the group with henriksen and jody, fellow wincest truthers

[supamerchant]

i can't believe you recommended 'one day' to me. im still sick and now im crying, you did this to me 😭😭😭😭😭

Sorry @whorewhouse!! 😭😭😭 it’s fine, we’re fine.

In all seriousness, I wanted a cry buddy since I haven’t really encountered anyone that’s seen it on here. You know how we’re both not really into romance on tv but this one actually got me and I had to share the pain lol

As payback (and in general), you’re welcome to rec a show/movie to me, especially if it hurts. *smiles through the tears*

[ardentpoop]

'sam is a john copy'

what are your thoughts on this take?

largely used by people who don’t understand sam at all lol. like they say this because A) they cartoon-villainize john, and B) they villainize sam as well in order to validate dean’s self-centered perspective on everything that goes wrong btwn the brothers.

they didn’t even make it up themselves; as usual dean handed it to them. 4.19 “jump the shark” is the key example.

most of the audience takes scenes like this at face value because dean is the character who they’re primed to sympathize more with. like yes of course, poor dean who as a young man wanted nothing more than to be like his abusive father but is a hopelessly inadequate copy because his Heart Is Too Big, he’s Too Soft, Too Bruised. disregarding that between sam and dean it is in Fact dean (by this point in the series especially) who is the spitting image of their father in terms of his temper, his emotional unavailability, his psychological dependence on violence, the control he exerts over his family in the interest of keeping them “safe.” there are cracks in his hardened exterior because he’s a person, just as john was a person.

also note that despite dean continuing to revere john after his death and despite dean believing that john’s role in their lives was ultimately one that was necessary and justified (if he didn’t believe this he wouldn’t have behaved the way he did from s2 onward), he does tap into a deep well of resentment for john from time to time. we see it so clearly in this episode, especially with adam’s experiences with john being contrasted against sam and dean’s in ways that make both of them hurt. of course, the audience’s attention is pointed squarely at dean’s hurt over sam’s.

sam and dean often switch sides in terms of which of them defends or disparages john, depending on what’s going on in their lives and their relationship. regardless of this it’s crucial to understand that john’s role - his control over the conditions of samndean’s lives and his authority as head of household - is definitively dean’s following john’s death. with this in mind: despite dean outwardly appearing to criticize the detrimental impact that john’s behavior/lifestyle had on samndean as children, he is very much simultaneously upholding john’s “wishes” and approaching the question of whether to get adam involved with hunting from john’s perspective - the same perspective that was responsible for the differences in how sam vs dean were raised and the negative psychological effects on one brother but not the other. sam is always in favor of arming vulnerable people with information because he was denied information and excluded from The John And Dean Team for a significant chunk of his childhood. dean is (mostly) in favor of “protecting the innocent” at the expense of their own feelings about this “protection” because that was the role that was carved out for him, as angry and hurt by it as he often feels.

dean is arguing from john’s perspective here, and sam is arguing from the perspective of his younger self. it doesn’t seem like it on the surface because dean is using his resentment for john to cut at sam while the strain in their relationship in s4 comes to a head as a result of sam bucking against dean’s authoritative role by embracing his powers and going against dean’s orders (yes, orders), as well as because sam giving in to his “fate” as a hunter after years of loss and grief and evidence that he’d been “wrong” to “run away” is framed by the narrative throughout s4-5 as sam being pointlessly angry and revenge-driven due to his Monstrous Nature, as opposed to it being a bid for autonomy in the other direction.

overall: john’s role is dean’s and mary’s role is sam’s. outside of that there are traits of each of their parents in both sam and dean and parallels that you can draw between all four of them. john was the civilian and mary was the hunter. mary wanted to “run away” but her plans were violently thwarted. mary made a deal with a demon that would change her life and her family’s lives forever. john was once Soft and defenseless. john kept meticulous records as a hunter to the point that they are still referenced years after his death and even after samndean have access to the MOL’s records. mary kept her family in the dark about hunting after her deal with azazel because she was dedicated to living “normally.” there was strain in john and mary’s marriage before she died and it is implied that they might have eventually broken up if the universe didn’t have other plans for them. etc etc etc. truly you can go nuts with it there is so much more you can do with this family than the average viewer realizes.

I know that got long so let me know if you want further clarification on anything :)

[ardentpoop]

i feel like your assumptions about my fave ep choices are going to be quite accurate :') here they are: the benders, croatoan, born under a bad sign, bad day at black rock, dead man's blood, salvation, what is and what should never be, sacrifice, many more but this is too many already so ill stop now

tbh I’m definitely cheating if we’re mutuals/if we have interacted abt the show before but here we go

favorite showrunner by far was kripke

(almost) exclusively reads bottom!sam

john lover (rare and special)

little to no interest in cas outside of occasional s/c content

has not watched the entire show because the drops in quality + worsening mistreatment of sam by dean were too difficult to bear

primarily watches through a s/d lens but is able to recognize samndean’s relationship as abusive with sam being the abused partner (more rare than you might think)

loves s1 and s2 equally

[ardentpoop]

my dash did this

lmfao yeah

[supamerchant]

∞ for the music ask game <3

So this is from my liked songs on Spotify. And I’m pretty sure there will be a variety of if I end up getting multiple asks.

The song is One Call Away by Chingy and Jason Weaver

Not going to lie, I mostly like this song for the chorus so I went over the lyrics in detail to see if there’s another lyric I like. There’s a contrast with the narrative style lyrics and the chorus, so…

Give me a call if you wanna come roll with me

I'm only one call away

A bit of a weak and maybe less meaningful start, though it’s been a catchy song for me while growing up.

Thank you for the ask!!

[ardentpoop]

omg you like qaf too ... you might be my favourite person on here

(this is babybrothershaped btw)

kiss kiss

i was a contrarian abt qaf too lmao i vastly (VASTLY) preferred brian/michael to brian/justin