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Talk to me about supernatural shipping, the Winchester genders, etc.?

ooHOHOHOHOHOLHOHOUHOUHOHOUHO OKAY OKAY ALRIGHT— okay so first off. my laptop decided it was time to give me a straight up motherfucking heart attack, so i apologize in advance if this is a total ramble. but, off to the races we go!

wincest/samdean

they never fall in love, The Love™ has always been there. thats the best part. the knife twist of need versus the sometimes chilling absence of want, displayed by either of them at any given moment, is the contrast thats fun to play it. Dean knows whats best for Sam (hes wrong) and Sam knows whats best for Dean (hes wrong) and they're both stubborn fucken mules about it. its either sharp as razors or soft as feathers and there is literally no in between.

S1 is where its at though i fear. everyone has said this, i will also say it because its right. the yearning, your honor, that which is right in front of you yet never been further from you. so little time has passed yet an eternity has been spent. nothing and everything has changed. you know him like the back of your hand, yet you know nothing about him and will you ever know him like you used too.

there shouldve been penetration in Playthings. or at least a kiss.

Sex and Violence too. they shouldve fucked. look if a siren is sitting there going "i gave your brother what he needed and it was you." actually. just. screenshots from the transcript

^ you seein this shit tumblr user snowberriesromanoff? im still thinking about it. a lot. frequently. its in my brain forever and ever now. there are literally so many other wincest moments forever and ever.

we are literally introduced to Dean with him pinning down Sam and droppin' the "easy tiger" which is just. okay. plus the cinematographic choices for the following 10-20 seconds after??? literally fucking wild why are you using the cinematographic language for a first kiss of lovers reunited or forbidden. Why Did They Do That. i'll tell you why and its because the writers wanted them to f-

truthfully wincest alone is worth a 17K essay that spans scenes from across all fifteen seasons. but i am tired. and i have not watched all fifteen seasons. but if you watch the show you either Get It or you dont when it comes to wincest.

songs? yeah. fuck it. songs: -Stranger Things Have Happened by Foo Fighters ("oh maybe, maybe, maybe / i can share it with you / i behave, i behave, i behave / so i can share it with you") -Hatefuck by The Bravery ("while your shouting friends despise you to your face / what would they say now if they saw you in this place? / naked and breathless, could you live with this disgrace?") -Pyromance by Chemlab (the entire song) -Twin Skeletons by Fall Out Boy (basically every fob song actually)

destiel

it's The Ship™ i dont really know what there is to say that you dont already know. it's gay.

but like.

it's gay for The Alloro's, ya know what i'm saying?

it's "break through the programming because of you" gay. it's "get sent to conversion therapy twice because i couldnt unfall for you" gay. it's "you were the one that brought color to my life and made me feel emotions" gay. you know. gay that alloro's love.

and it's one-sided if you're enlightened enough! or really weird and yearn'y on both sides if you dont like one-sided stuff. works best if you can slide Sam into the equation of how it unfolds on Dean's side of things though which is why i don't interact with destiel at large. because they keep forgetting Sam and how weird Dean is about Sam, we can have destiel and Dean being weird about Sam at the same time man.

plus a good deal of destiel tension at the tail end of S4 is just. it stems from Sam. if you have eyes that can see. and are a wincestiel slut. which i am both.

songs: -Old Number Seven by The Devil Makes Three ("and i'm swimming in liqour, only halfway through / so i'm watching as his wings spread as wide as could be") -Took Me By Surprise by Maria Mena ("i've pushed this man as far as he could go / but he lacked the words to let me know / he acted out, now i can see it is my fault")

wincestiel (sam/dean/cas)

look. look. there are two ways to run the gamut of wincestiel: A: they all love and care for each other very much and are an equally balanced OT3 relationship B: tier system of the love Sam and Dean share plus Cas is here too i guess

i am a slut for option B because ITS SO FUCKING GOOD. look the angels are meant to watch and not interfere right? so, it fits. it makes sense. Cas sits and watches and feels things about it and for them and over their weird situation, but he can't touch by nature of his own existence he's not allowed.

so he just, watches. voyeur!Cas is canon to me and you can fight me. it gets even better when they offer him in. let him join. give him a chance to be part of it because hey, hes Cas, hes become enmeshed with them hasnt he? not on the same level, but to a certain degree he is one of them.

gets better if he still says no because hes an angel and hes not allowed. you get the point. voyeur!Cas whose fascinated by human sexuality my beloved.

songs: dont have any songs :[

and now we add a cut because this post is clocking in at way too many words. i am so sorry. i havent even mentioned debriel yet.

debriel

and now we talk about debriel :] and because youre cool, you get the slightly edited copy paste of the message that i cobbled together earlier today to torture my mutuals on discord that know fuckall about Supernatural. yes i am now cognitive enough to be aware its incoherent and falls the fuck through. still,

no cause you dont understand, debriel proves itself as superior to both sabriel and destiel given the fact that A: our first show of Gabriel was Sam going "hes a fag." and that he flirts with men and was lowkey giving Dean looks to be real and B: he shows up before Castiel does allowing more time for people to go haywire about tall tales and later on mystery spot and C: the gay tension between Sam and Gabriel strictly comes from Dean being used as a catalyst for this in mystery spot, if not for Dean sabriel would have no initial spark to be built off in later seasons, and in addition to all of this we have the fact that gabriel literally went ahead and put himself in the cuck chair like canonically he outright went "peace offering, all the ladies you could want," whilst sitting in the audience as he did so and i am not joking, he is voyeur as all angels are, also we have the fact that he is weird and alloaro and Dean Winchester is also weird and alloaro an—

^ i was doing this. and i still am. and always will be. because im obsessed. i dont know what happened to me. get me off this crazy train man.

i dont even think theyd be allo about each other is the thing. theyre the horniest fuckers in this show, of course theyve fucked at least once. hell you wanna really fucken reach? Starla was Gabriel. i know im reaching, thats too much of a reach for even me, but i think itd be funny and i would not put Gabriel past it. oh and the corpse fucker reach with Mystery Spot. if you like that. and the exhibitionist x voyeur dynamic we were almost given in Tall Tales, but we can still take context clues and gather that Gabriel is voyeuristic because angel.

if they get any more gay potential in season five i will die on the spot.

songs: -Drugs, Sex, Etc by Beach Weather (no specific lyric. just vibes.) -Closer (Deviation) by Nine Inch nails (also vibes. i have had this ship for three days.) (and yes specifically Deviation not classic) -also. honestly? ABBA songs. just trust.

sabriel

call me back for an in depth answer once i get debriel out of my system. right now you get the short of it, which is that where i'm sitting at the show right now all the sabriel tension comes from Dean, in the same way that destiel tension comes from Sam in S4. which is nice, bit of parallel, slip some brotherfucking in your normal ships.

anyways, three things to say.

Mystery Spot.

this dialogue exchange:

[GABRIEL] This obsession to save Dean? The way you two keep sacrificing yourselves for each other? Nothing good comes out of it. Just blood and pain. Dean's your weakness. And the bad guys know it, too. It's gonna be the death of you, Sam. Sometimes you just gotta let people go. SAM He's my brother. [GABRIEL] Yup. And like it or not, this is what life's gonna be like without him. SAM Please. Just—please.

extreme dub-con.

what else is there to say?

songs: -Heat of The Moment by Asia (BECAUSE I THINK IM FUNNY)

deanbela/sambela

these two get the same slot because it all blends into a throuple dynamic inside of my brain because im gods most sleep deprived multishipper and a slut for poly dynamics. also because shes only here for one season and i want her to come back. come back from the war queen i miss you.

basically, two tops and a bottom. Sam's the bottom in case there were any questions. i actually wrote a fic about how hes just a piece of meat for Dean and Bela to fight over, which is more of a wincest/sambela dynamic than an outright OT3, but it still gives insight into that specific read of their dynamic.

deanbela specifically though? t4t. aro4aro. top4top. they figure it out. she gives Dean the Oh moment of being a tgirl truthfully speaking. she breaks him six ways from sunday and he goes "no, must be a fluke, i could never be a girl" and moves on reluctantly. also because, its hot.

songs: -Killer Queen by Queen, deanbela (do i need to highlight a specific lyric?) -I Love You (As Much As Someone Like Me Could Love Anyone) from Galavant, sambela (aro4allo song in general so it fits my own sambela vision quite nicely)

Anna/Ruby

did you know that Supernatural has yuri in it? now you do. i dont actually have a lot of things to say about Anna/Ruby i fear beyond the fact its good. just. its just good. its fun. its something to spin around in my mind when i want to.

its angel x demon yuri thats only bound to go horrible places if it ever got a chance to happen. whats not to love? its just Good man. and also Ruby's apprehension towards even being near Anna because angel and demon and those dont mix and there is yearning potential in this bitch like crazy if you squint.

songs: -Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High? by Arctic Monkeys (no specific lyrics, just, vibey, its good) -forget her by girl in red (look. Ruby dies. im not certain if Anna's still alive actually, lets pretend she is so this song fits)

samruby

she was literally "just trying to help" up until the very last second before the betrayal is revealed. one could argue he loved her romantically, he mightve in canon actually, im just aromantic so who knows. and you know, the betrayal is bad as is. he really liked her, and he can imagine that she maybe liked him beyond the fact he was part of the grand scheme of things. she played him like a fiddle and looked hot the entire time, truthfully speaking, and he believed it because of a plethora of reasons. there was faith and trust and he fell in love and got betrayed.

now layer all that with the apocalypse unfolding because you were her bitch boy. Ouch.

also, blood drinking. its hot. To Me. so it gets mentioned.

song: -Cannibal by Pendulum ("beneath your fingers / my vision's fading /give me the poison / fuck what you're saying / i'm feeling primal / filthy animal, kiss me like a cannibal")

sastiel

where i sit on finishing season 4? there is potential. there are multiple ways to work it. theres the humor of Sam watching Dean pine for Cas and going "that's great Dean, i'm already fucking him" which is something that makes me cackle. there's the angst of even an angel's blood being unable to purify Sam (where i sit at finishing S4, could be wrong but hey rn thats my angle).

oh.

and there's the thing where apparently Castiel fists Sam Winchester's soul on live television. which is pretty gay. like its avant garde gay, its impressionist gay. its not classic style gay but its gay.

songs: -Howl by Florence + The Machine ("the saints can't help me now, the ropes have been unbound / i hunt for you with bloodied feet across the hallowed ground") -Tourniquet by Evanescence (no specific lyric)

deanjo

i just like a good t4t hetship every now and then man, and deanjo is that good t4t hetship. why wouldn't i mention it here? it's been a while since i've watched their episodes but i still think about them and their t4t swagger a lot.

look. ive already said tgirl Dean. but the real first Oh moment for tgirl Dean is with Jo. this is the most envy fuelled les4gay t4t fuck sesh you will ever see. they do not know that its les4gay and t4t though because theyre fucken, repressed, in denial, and will never actually do shit about it either. if they were even slightly more self aware of their gender situations they wouldnt fuck though.

anyways. testosterone could save Jo Harvelle and estrogen could make Dean Winchester smile a bit more and i just know their fuck sesh involved pegging.

oh and also yes the t4t read is parallel to the hunting and being a hunter thing. trust me. im 90% about this but i cant remember the episode with the dialogue i'd quote right here.

songs: -Panic At The Disco. just. like. a bunch of them. i forgot to put aside the song that made me think of them when i heard it but theres at least one P!ATD song thats deanjo to me. -Closer to God by Nine Inch Nails (repetition of "i want to be you")

team free love (dean/sam/cas/gabriel)

two humans. two angels. four brothers. blasphemy galore. while team free love is traditionally on OT4, theres a lot of "its sabriel/destiel" in the tags because people were cowards and couldnt appreciate it properly. properly being appreciating that its a cute ship full of fucked up ships.

we have: the broken the beaten and the damned all in one x pure by virtue of existence and disdains the impure (sastiel) desperate and needing and broken x guy who tortured him for god knows how long (sabriel) incest with fucked up power dynamics because theyre both really fucked up (wincest) incest. but angels. (cabriel) "You know, ever since we met, ever since I pulled you out of Hell… Knowing you has changed me. Because you cared, I cared [...] You changed me, Dean." x "Why does this sound like a goodbye?" (destiel) debriel (debriel)

the four of them would make each other worse in case you were curious. no matter how you dice it they would not make each other better, they'd just doom spiral each other. but it's a cute ship for an OT4 so its forgivable.

songs: -any song applicable to the solo ships is applicable to the OT4

john/bobby

boy i am the furthest thing from a fan of John Winchester, but i will not deny that there was most definitely A Thing between him and Bobby. i have nothing deep to say here except for the fact that they fucked at least once. what else is there for me to even say. no i dont have any songs either it just felt worth mentioning.

closing thoughts

i couldve dragged this post out by so many more words, by god i couldve. but i dont have something deep to say about every ship in this show. and yes fun fact i do ship every single ship mentioned in this post at least a little bit and then some that i didnt mention. ships i didnt mention including: deancassie, samjess, wincestiel 2 (sam/gabriel/dean), samjo, rubydean, etc.

if i talk about the Winchester genders on this post people who click that readmore will die because post long. in the same breath, rip to everyone who clicked readmore hoping for Winchester genders (short of it? i work any reading depending on the story i wanna tell, i favor bigender!sam and tgirl!dean though).

anyways.

thanks for the ask :D hope this was a satisfactory answer