How organ became the leader of the wizards of the black circle:

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How organ became the leader of the wizards of the black circle:
I just. I just think.
Yllidith rework tease except not really because so far he didn't keep anything from this first version except the flies. I'm so deadass rn. But!! I remembered that I put him on the trashcan so very fondly so have a lil peek <3 Also something something sign of life the reworks are still happening y'know
Ogron pretending to give a fuck after Yllidith ended up imprisoned by the major fairies:
(The hamster is Duman btw)
So what are your personal thoughts on Yilidth (if you haven't already answered). I hadn't read the comics in a while but I don't think they ever said anything about him being related to Duman, though considering his eye and hair colour I guess it was probably implied. How do you think he created him? Like did he just use magic or did he had a one night stand and then years later, a basket with baby Duman just appeared with a letter telling him he's the dad, and he's like "Oh, f*#k".
I actually made an au where the wizards had joined Yilidth's wizard cult as novices and one task that he made them do was babysit Duman. Imagine the chaos😂
I think I have given my thoughts on him before, but that was both a while ago and I didn't appreciate him as much as I do now, which you can tell 💀💀 very angry very rambly stuff over there- So let me give some more/updated thoughts!!
Him being underused and shoehorned is still very true, unfortunately. He could've been a super handy tool to give us more information about the whole Terrestrial conflict, since that was an interesting part of canon that might have benefitted from a bit more exploration, even if it was a bit late. But then he just. Wasn't?? He was announced, he came, he died?????? And that was the first and last we saw of him. Honestly deranged boooo yucky.
He never even got to interact with the wizards again- You could literally say he was just some random criminal that had been locked away and almost nothing would change, and that's really his main problem. Aside from his design. I mean, love a blank canvas to throw a bunch of takes at, but come on!!!!!
Him and Duman's relation was never really mentioned either, I don't think? Beyond the "He was the leader of the fairy hunters!" there's really um. Nothing. Like in general. Ask canon Yllidith their names and he'll give you a blank stare fgbhbn- Tbh I'm surprised Duman's even in the lil flashback thingy at all ngl
Now, can we call any sort of relation implied? Are we gonna give them that much credit? Well idk! I'm just personally a fan of it so I just kinda. Squinted real hard. Matching eye colour? Mhm. Hair colour? Sure kinda. Yllidith having illusion magic and Duman being a shapeshifter? Yep that lines up enough for me, that does it, they're related now. Some people see the vision, others might not- I've spoken to plenty of people who aren't a fan of the take and that's a-okay, just know that I very much am 👉👈
This is a. Surprisingly consistent thing for me too?? Like yeah there's a case of "it depends on what I'm doing", there usually is- But not to a large extent ig? The method varies, but in a lot of stuff I'm doing now there's definitely a relation in one way or another.
Usually Duman is more or less made from scratch, a magic'd up baby, if you will. Though the process did include Yllidith's blood, so you have enough wiggle room to still say there's a blood relation. (Duman wouldn't.) (Yllidith only does when it's convenient.) But I've been getting the urge to explore a more normal approach where he was just regularly born lately, so maybe I'll get to that at some point too.
And!! If you ever feel like sharing more of that AU in any way, please do, because it sounds absolutely DELIGHTFUL. Imagine them thinking it's gonna be an easy enough task, and they wonder why nobody else wants to do it, then little Duman starts shapeshifting into horrors beyond mortal comprehension. Bye, I'm obsessed.
Hello! I wanted to ask you, when the wizards are freed from Omega by Neruman in the comics, what do you think their relationship was? Because it never really felt to me that the wizards were serving Neruman willingly. Not sure if I’m quite thinking they were his prisoners, but it didn’t feel like they would serve him by choice. (You’ve talked about comic-exclusive characters in your posts before, so I’m guessing you know about the comic plots. If you don’t, since the comics aren’t widespread, then never mind.)
(Quick extra bit: any theories on where the wizards lived while serving Neruman? Because I could never tell if they lived in his Dark Dimension Castle thing, or if they just hid out in Gardenia again.) Thank you!
Ngl of all the characters with relevance to the remaining 75% of the Black Circle comic wise, Neruman has definitely done the least for me? Which might be a little ironic because he's like the whole reason the wizards were even freed to EXIST in the comics?? Idk he just doesn't get my creative juices flowing like Yllidith and Gregory do y'know- Despite having more relevance than both of them. I really am just attracted to cardboard huh. Hm.
But aside from that!! Yeah no, I don't think the word 'willingly' is even allowed in the building rn.
Tbh the wizards really just dealt with hit after hit, loss after loss. They went from nearly done with a centuries lasting job, to losing one of their own and being locked up, just to be freed and forced to work under him to repay a debt that really won't be until some guy says so, who abandons them anyway later on and lets them get locked away elsewhere. Had the wizards been in even a little bit of a better state, emotionally and magically, at any point during this, I don't think working under him would've gone on for as long as it did, if even at all.
Also if we assume that they haven't worked under anyone since Yllidith, and doing so wasn't the best experience (I am assuming both of those things), than this might've been extra upsetting for them too. If it wasn't humiliating enough by itself. Dare I say I think all 3 of them hated this shadowy, 'Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come' ass bitch- Just not a fan of it being mostly a fear thing, I mean these men have been around for a WHILE. Like just say they're aware they're too weak to leave him rn, but don't make them SCARED and sweating on their knees tf is WRONG with you smh.
Not to do another comic rant or anything, but I will NEVER get over how the comics slandered them and everything positive they had going for them. Maybe that's why Neruman doesn't do a lot for me hskskssj he really is a big part of it all.
Wouldn't be surprised if he did yoink them to be nearby whenever they weren't actively doing something for him though, so I'd say stand-by in the castle, but "free" roaming Gardenia when in the middle of the job, like with the whole Gregory thing. Who is actually my little guy compared to Neruman.
INDIVIDUAL WIZARD HEADCANONS (3 / 4)
『 DUMAN 』
-) The only reason he exists at all was to aid in the conflict with the fairies. Serving as Yllidith's familiar of sorts, he protected the man from curses and kept him from being tracked down by the enemy. A very thankless job. Duman was often treated more like a pet, despite being Yllidith's blood. But at least he was able to bring over those passive abilities into the Black Circle later on.
-) Was an absolute pain to face back in the day. He was near impossible to trap or contain, injuries that should kill rarely kept him down for even a few moments, and the thought of him being around could be so stressful that fairies sometimes turned on each other.
-) Has owned SO many pets. At some point it was a hobby to take in sick/dying animals so he could do a bit of research when they died, but being as magical as he is, every once in a while they would straight up recover. And refuse to leave. The hobby became a lot less enjoyable after the 20th pet.
-) Absolutely the worst in magic unrelated to his specialty, his self-proclaimed 'mastery over form', of all the wizards. This has somewhat forced him to find interesting ways to make things work. The spells he can do, not including group spells, are done with one hand. Which he will not stop doing. If he could open the Black Circle with one hand, he would. The others would not be able to stop him.
-) He seems to get some weird enjoyment out of cutting people off when they ask any variation of "Hey, did you hear about-", just going "Yes." and leaving it at that. Nothing else. It's extremely funny to him and he has done it many times. Nobody agrees with him.
-) Has eaten a person before. And as worrying as that point might be by itself, it barely makes the top 10 of weirdest things Duman has eaten in his very long life. He has lived through it all and his ''organs'' are fine. Though he does prefer meat, his ''body'' can pretty much use anything he consumes as fuel. You could say his insides are a Black Circle all on their own, but don't actually, he does NOT like that joke.
Yllidith was busy being imprisoned for anywhere between a decade and a couple centuries so someone else had to get rid of him instead