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//Leaks, unreleased character info. mentions

some thoughts after reading Lohen's stuff (yet again):

reading his character story kinda sets me off.

what do you mean this perfect, orderly lifestyle his parents believed in could've resulted in Lohen's death? like... why would you make weapons, transport weapons, and not know how to or not use the freaking weapon? i'm so disappointed in his parents... (okay maybe not that much but still)

i understand why they do it- they're ordinary civilians, practicing their trade, honoring their religion, but bro. at least hire a mercenary or something when transporting goods? weapons? its just mind-boggling to me, because when someone gets used to a carefree, no harm life, I get it- no need for guards and stuff.

but each time I read it, I cringe so bad. why? why would you risk your kid, then instead of taking accountability after you get a second chance with your kid, you reject self-defense even more and go to all lengths to make sure said kid will never leave the house again?? (sure this didn't really happen but it sure felt like it)

like no wonder why Lohen turned out this way... i'm so glad Adorno "took him under his wing", even if it was due to "keeping a close eye on him".

then, i'm super proud of Lohen, taking the risk to return with the two Hilichurl Arrowheads (weathered arrowheads mention!) he'd retrieved as trophies from his late night fight/encounter. slowly becoming the person he is today, thankfully with Cyrus and Adorno's help.

i find it funny how he gets bored from the Adventurer's Guild. i'm glad he ended up joining the Knights of Favonius despite his parents' expectations.

and then it turns back to his parents "comforting each other". that pisses me off. again. what about your son? comforting your actual freaking son??? instead of adapting to what he needed, listening to the way he wanted to grow, they always thought they knew better. sure, kids are kids, kinda wild, but wow... it surprises me how relatable this story is, hehe ૮(ᵕ—ᴗ—)ა

Lohen receiving closure behind the guy who kidnapped him.

"he's already dead."

i love how Adorno knows that if he'd told Lohen that the man was still alive, he would've gone for revenge. learning that the waste of space had done the deed himself wasn't enough for Lohen- he urged to know who did it. who'd encouraged the guy to die?

and it had to be the one guy who'd never do such a thing: the Knight of Boreas - Varka.

i laugh thinking about it. Varka? how...? why...? i mean, it's Varka. the kidnapper must've been super guilty or something, because i don't think Varka would do such a thing, as i mentioned earlier.

but who knows? i could be wrong.

and Lohen was curious too. ambushing Varka on his first meeting. what's the Grand Master like? how will he do against this? or that?

what the hell, Lohen?

all for Varka to subdue him and toss him into solitary confinement. was Klee in there too? we'll never know. she probably wasn't even born yet (not too sure about timelines)

then, this guy, this absolute mountain of a man, so easily trusts Lohen when he approaches him after days of solitary confinement with a bottle of Varka's favorite wine- Dandelion Wine- saying it was his way of apologizing.

like... Varka. Varka. why? so many questions...

Lohen was just in solitary confinement. how did he even know Varka's favorite wine? they'd just met! then, he doesn't even stop and ask how Lohen got his hands... on some wine. right after solitary confinement. so...

what the hell, Varka?

anyways, that aside, Varka drinks the wine, because it's his favorite and Lohen would never, ever spike it.

Lohen spiked it.

the second Varka drank the wine, he felt dizzy. Varka remembers Adorno's warning - i mean, words- and begins to take Lohen seriously, righting himself and defying the dizziness as Lohen watched in surprise, pretty much changing the course of his life (or setting it in stone).

i'll stop rambling here because this was supposed to be short and sweet, but i just love how their connections develop over time. how Lohen tries to save Adorno in his own way, how Lohen tries to brute force his life until he learns to trust Varka- and that's quite the achievement... not just anyone can gain Lohen's trust.

i kinda want to make a post just talking about how Varka and Lohen's silly dynamic grows over time. might plan one! you can tell how Hoyo really treats them as parallels despite the contrasts in their characters.

i mean, there's the whole Lupus Majoris and Lepus Miles thing, how the hare wants to outdo the wolf (literally Lohen's first goal on the "list"), how Varka makes Lohen stronger, wiser, better. for himself, not for anyone else.

it's really interesting. this post was supposed to be me raging about Lohen's parents, but in the end, it's also their first time being adults, being parents. it's hard, and they really tried to protect Lohen - it just wasn't the right decision. good intentions, bad execution. i hope Lohen doesn't carry that weight in his heart, but if he does, it's completely valid.

i'm also really happy he had people like Cyrus and Adorno come into his life and instead of suppressing him, they adapted with him, embracing the person he was to become. sure, it might've been to their benefit if we really think about it (who'd say no to a really strong and capable fighter) but they also took the time to guide Lohen, something that Lohen desperately needed, in my opinion.

anyways, that's the end of this ramble, thanks for sticking with me! i'll get back to posting about Lohen's materials if no other thoughts or ideas come up, hehe ૮(˶• ༝ •˶)ა ♡

have an amazing day/night!! stygian onslaught's been out, don't forget to collect your rewards! - wren

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did a little thinking about how Lohen isn't seen as "heroic", but is basically a hero

he might not be Mondstadt's positive, bubbly hero type, but he doesn't care if people see him as that or if people like him

all he cares about is if his methods keep others alive or if his methods get the mission done, but that doesn't mean he's not a hero!

i mean, he used to throw his life on the line to make sure everyone would make it back home (during the Expedition), even monitoring the perimeter (battling enemies) while the Knights were asleep

he's not the hero most people would want, but he's a hero some definitely need!

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they even animated his anecdote… i love how the music is from Kipumaki Cliff! Nod-Krai really was one of his favorite places, huh…

(Ignore the little mishap in the beginning lol)

Source: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1adV96rE8c/

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Lohen is a very interesting character! Do you have any headcanons with him and Mika?

I like their friendship from what I have seen in the game.

hi anon! thank you for your message! ₍ ᐢ.ˬ.ᐢ₎♡

here's some hcs that i have of Lohen and Mika's dynamic:

//Possible Leaks, unreleased content mentions!

to start, i think we all know how unpredictable Lohen is... of course, some know him better than most!

having worked together for a while, Mika probably has a sixth sense for when Lohen is about to do something reckless.

if Lohen's not in sight? he's probably off fighting monsters. away from HQ's office? probably fighting monsters. skipped out on training? monsters.

ever since Lohen had switched their notebooks that one time, Mika's definitely sure that Lohen was following his notes, the Vice Captain having memorized each route himself. Mika has learned Lohen's habits well enough to predict his... bad decisions with depressing accuracy...

note: i'd like to take the time to mention that i believe the in-game text says that Lohen switches out Mika's materials for a phony. i can assume that Lohen swapped Mika's notebook for a fake copy, copied the information from the real notebook before Mika would notice, and handed the original back to him when he was done. this means that the notebook that Lohen's carrying around could possibly be a 100% copied, forged version of Mika's notebook, even down to the bookmark, and at times, Mika's actual notebook! he has quite the eye for detail, and he probably learned a ton about Mika by taking apart his notebook.

i also think that Mika, being Mika, will label his things to keep people away- especially Lohen.

some pouches, spare parts, notebooks... the warnings get increasingly specific: "Mika's Stuff", "Do Not Borrow", "THIS IS NOT MONSTER INTEL", "LOHEN PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH"

also, it's confirmed that the Grand Master trained Mika in combat, but i also like to think that Mika admires Lohen's fighting style, and tries to add it into his own kit. his spear fighting combined with a shot of his crossbow reminds me of Lohen's kit.

and, so on, so forth ₍ᐢ. ̫ .ᐢ₎

thank you for your question and for your support!! ૮₍ ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶ ₎ა

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thinking abt how Lohen is the Vice Captain of the Ranged Company, but likes to use a polearm over a bow… his explanation being that stabbing is faster and more accurate, even his official intro says he charges straight to the front line instead of staying back like a ranged unit

to me, this is one of my favorite parts abt his character since it shows how well he understands his team’s vulnerabilities in battle ^^

his methods all revolve around this idea that the “battlefield doesn’t play fair”, and makes changes so that they’ll live to see another day

Lohen understands how vulnerable archers and other ranged units are if enemies were to get too close, so he trains them relentlessly (and “cruelly”) to be prepared for real combat

i admire him sm for that… his understanding of life leads to the overall misunderstanding of his character, but in the end, it doesn’t rly matter because everyone’s still alive

not the healthiest worldview, but most definitely an inspiring and benevolent one

(he’s really cool…)

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i saw some talk about Lohen’s alcohol consumption so i want to add to the discussion!

i think that Lohen has little to no alcohol tolerance because he abstains from drinking, not because his body can’t handle alcohol:

“Ah, I don't drink. The only use I have for alcohol is disinfecting my wounds”

this voice line shows that he views alcohol as a tool (disinfecting wounds), and not so much as a drink to be consumed

also, there’s Lohen’s Character Story 3, which explains that after Lohen failed to incapacitate Varka with a sedative hidden in his Dandelion Wine, Lohen began to test his own poisons/sedatives on himself so he could never be brought down (easily)

the story goes into resistance to incapacitation, but not developing a tolerance to alcohol

this is also backed up by his least favorite food voice line, where he warns the Traveler to not drink after watching drunken knights become so drunk that they couldn’t tell when Lohen had swapped out their drink for something else

he believes that intoxication lowers vigilance and could possibly put a mission in danger

Lohen follows a lifestyle, not just abstinence from drinking! he’s so shaped by his beliefs that if it goes against this “battle-ready” side of him, he most likely won’t partake in it

his tolerance training is saved for poisons, draughts, and sedatives, but not alcohol

(however, if alcohol was going to be used in a mission to send someone “to sleep”, he’d definitely test it on himself first to see if it works)

all this to say, there’s nothing in text that says how high/low his tolerance is, his long-term abstinence might have him more on the side of little tolerance

however, as someone who’s trying to compare to Varka (Character Story 3), he might test alcohol once in a while… (lol)

^ didn’t add this on the twt version of my post but perhaps the scene where Varka’s seeing through Barbeloth’s Scryglass (yes it’s possibly just a way to market for Lohen…) shows us a future where Lohen can drink alcohol comfortably, not overthinking about whether it’s been tampered with or not.

a future where Lohen doesn’t have to be “battle-ready”, where he’s not constantly thinking three steps ahead and is allowing himself to live in the moment, all things he doesn’t enjoy doing (based on his Story Quest/Content)

and, understanding Varka, drinking isn’t just an excuse to have fun (despite the jokes lol), it’s a strong symbol of “home” to him. he probably wishes for Lohen to heal from his past, to find peace in the “home” that waits for them after every mission/expedition (Mondstadt)

//who knew a post about alcohol tolerance could go so deep

anyways! Lohen might not have a high alcohol tolerance (if we go based off the text), or he might surprise us later and suddenly down a ton of drink

atm, i’m on the side of little to no alcohol tolerance, but anything can change!

thanks for reading this yapfest ^^ - wren

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thinking about the (unintentional) parallels between Lyney and Lohen...

(this is probably because Lyney was my main DPS before Lohen but i can't stop thinking about it so...)

i don't know why, but i feel like if Lohen were to ever meet Lyney (or vice versa), they'd have a lot to learn from one another

will hoyo ever bless me with an interaction between them?

maybe, maybe not, but here's to wishful thinking!

Lyney's Rainbow Roses and Lohen's Cecilia

Lyney, using the language of flowers, incorporates flowers in his tricks and performances. he gives the Traveler an arrangement called "Delightful Encounter", which includes both a Lumidouce Bell and a Rainbow Rose, the description going into detail about how it is "an arrangement of Lumidouce Bells, which symbolize parting, and Rainbow Roses that represent passion".

Lohen incorporates a Cecilia into his interrogation when playing a form of torturous Russian Roulette with a captive, much like how Lyney uses flowers in his performance

Lohen also has official art from his initial reveal (livestream) showing him holding a single Cecilia; this is interesting considering it is "as intangible as the true heart of an unbound soul". very fitting for Lohen!

Cesar is to Lyney (and Lynette!) as Adorno is to Lohen

just how Cesar introduced Lyney and Lynette to magic while they were surviving, Adorno gave Lohen the guidance he needed, not restraint

both mentors didn't just teach skills, they gave each individual a direction (and a lesson) to follow for the rest of their lives

Lyney as the future "Father" and Lohen as the "Benevolent Knight"

especially with the recent event, it's shown how much the expectation of taking over Arlecchino's position as "Father" for the House of the Hearth weighs down on Lyney; i'd consider it an expectation after the fight against Arlecchino

Lohen is expected to take over his family's craft, and as a Vice Captain, he is expected to take on Adorno's title of "Benevolent Knight", despite himself pointing out that he seems the least like a Benevolent Knight on the surface

after enjoying their quests and content, i think they're both learning how to "inherit" a role without losing who they are as people

they both have (possibly) played Tabletop Troupe scripts!

run by Clorinde and Navia, Lyney has joined them in the past for a game of Tabletop Troupe's "Marechaussee Hunter: Judgement Day" as a Game Master, pointing out how he'd play with his siblings, also as a Game Master

surprisingly, it is insinuated that Lohen has played a round of Tabletop Troupe with Varka: "...Next time, remember to scope out the enemy and assign roles before charging into battle! Even Lohen knows that Tabletop Troupe isn't a solo game!" (Varka's Character Story 5) (it's easy to miss this detail in Varka's content!)

they both serve as "operatives" within their respective organizations

Lyney is a famous magician in Fontaine who secretly works as a spy for the Fatui and the House of the Hearth (in his character stories/content + commissioned content, he is painted as an assassin-like figure, using tricks to catch the "enemy" off-guard)

Lohen is a Vice Captain of the 5th Company of the Knights of Favonius whose methods have him sometimes operating in covert missions (an example being his mission infiltrating an underground auction thanks to the Northern Intelligence Network)

both characters have a history of gathering intelligence, infiltration, manipulation, ambushing, and reconnaissance (they do it all despite selling the idea of having "one skillset"; Lyney as a magician and Lohen as the Ranged Company's Vice Captain)

tampering with alcohol! (silly)

in Lyney's character teaser "Gloves of Wonder", he is shown de-escalating a situation between the bartender and an obviously intoxicated customer. he uses the art of misdirection to control the situation, making the intoxicated man believe that his drink had been switched out with cider, before revealing that it had actually been swapped out with an apple. the man, drunk, passes out

similarly, Lohen has his own share of tampering with alcohol! in his character story 3, he is shown delivering Dandelion Wine to Varka in apology, before it is revealed that he had slipped in a sedative

Lohen also has voice over lines describing how he dislikes the idea of consuming alcohol, viewing it as a tool, and even insinuates how he would swap out the drinks of drunken Knights who were too intoxicated to even notice that he'd switched out their drinks for something else

funnily enough, Lohen likes apple cider

both characters use the art of Misdirection to their advantage

it's shown that Lyney uses the art of misdirection in his performances! magic, in itself, is deception

his official profile contrasts truth and illusion, emphasizing that magic uses facades to reach people's hearts

Lohen does something similar, but in combat! his content describes him using disguises, smoke screens, hidden traps, and manipulative tricks instead of using straightforward, honest combat

in the end, they both "win" by controlling what others perceive

due to their beliefs, they both challenge authority

Lyney is shown challenging Arlecchino to protect the people he loves, despite knowing that he couldn't defeat her. his devotion to his chosen "family" and his siblings outweighs any possible fear of his "Father"

in a similar way, Lohen challenges Varka (yet, he stops himself before defying orders)

Lohen's initial meeting with Varka shows him ambushing the Grand Master, and then falsifying an apology with tampered wine, challenging his strength. then, his story evolves, taking it upon himself to become an examiner for the Grand Expedition prep, tying his application with a bow in the metaphorical sense of Varka's drink having been tampered with (yet again)

they both choose their own moral judgement over brainless obedience; Lyney respects Arlecchino, but his family comes first, and Lohen (although it might not seem like it on the surface) also respects Varka, but he ultimately will follow his own beliefs

Lyney's desire of a Delusion parallels Lohen's desire of power...

after Lynette received her Vision, she was allowed to go on increasingly dangerous missions that Lyney couldn't join her on. in Lyney's character story, "He still desired to be beside her... this was his non-negotiable desire".

he asks Arlecchino for a Delusion because he believes that only greater power would let him continue to protect his loved ones, especially Lynette

Lohen reaches a similar conclusion: ordinary strength isn't enough. he continues to push himself even if others tell him to stop

they both seek dangerous power for selfless reasons (with possible selfish consequences)

...but both are stopped by the person they respect most

after Lyney had requested a Delusion, Arlecchino is angered, replying with "...would Lynette want you to do this?", attacking him where she knew it would hurt most

Arlecchino basically forces Lyney to realize that sacrificing wouldn't actually fulfill his wish to protect his family, or Lynette's wishes

similarly, Varka repeatedly tells Lohen to "confront his obsessions" instead of letting them consume him, telling the Traveler that he'd be the one responsible for pulling Lohen from the edge

having had lost his friend to the endless pursuit of power, Varka takes it upon himself to make sure Lohen wouldn't follow in Eroch's footsteps

both Arlecchino and Varka recognize that an endless pursuit of power can become self-destructive

and the irony!

in the end, both Lyney and Lohen aren't seen as "worthy" because they gain more power; they become worthy because they reject their belief that power alone is the answer they're looking for

Lyney begins to share the burden, becoming less of an overprotective sibling and more of a partner, protecting one another (his family) through their combined efforts, using trust, planning, and leadership

at the end of his Story Quest, Lohen accepts that the title of "Benevolent Knight" would be buried with Adorno, but he wouldn't give up learning what it meant to be a Knight, gradually understanding that protecting others not only required power, but compassion

other little details

choose strategy/intellect over pure brute force

charming (in their own ways!)

if they were in an improv. class they would pass with flying colors (acting and pretending seem to be very easy for them)

both "perform" a version of themselves they want the audience to see (the Traveler gets to see past it)

Lyney is cheerful in public, lonely and drained in private

Lohen is confident and sarcastic in public, but obsessive and emotionally tangled in private

they don't seek power for "glory", but to protect (themselves and their loved ones)

they're both archers, but also use an arsenal of other skills to fight

they both work dangerous jobs (okay this is cornplating)

i'd even throw in that they're both fun, elegant-looking, morally grey characters with a ton of controversy upon release! (so many mixed opinions...)

their appearances hide their true natures, and are equally complex characters with compelling backstories!

//this got super long lol

i'll probably add more if i think of anything! as a fan of both of these characters, (sorry Lyney, Lohen's sharing the spot for number one with you,,,) i love the way they were written...

thanks for reading!! - wren

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poisoned wine’s rainbow…

Lohen says happy pride month <3

Edit: wren… it’s cider, it’s cider,,, come on… this is the cider from his special dish…

i am so sorry anyways enjoy your rainbow cider Varka

Lohen puts a lot of thought into his poisons, huh? it’s so pretty…