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you are the cut that makes me hide my face!!!

#happy easter have some jcs essen 2010 propaganda #jesus christ superstar #video tag #song is like a friend by pulp

dyt the way pharisees are portrayed in jcs are more because of the way alw/tim rice wrote them or because of the director and how they interpret jcs?? or a combination of both

i think mostly the second one. going entirely off the lyrics of this jesus must die (not including twad because most productions don't) your baseline pharisees are utilitarian leaders of an occupied nation who are willing to kill one man to save many. their appearances in later songs are the same - they just want jesus dead - and unlike judas (whose goals align at first with the pharisees, the only difference being that he knows jesus personally and wants him to stay alive) and pilate they don't really get any humanising scenes which alw and rice seemed to realise because now then we are decided exists.

even without twad, productions could very easily portray the pharisees as like. panicked middle management doing what they think is best but they don't because then you lose an easy villain. so you get a load of productions where pharisees are absolutely delighted at the idea of killing this guy. and productions like to adapt or reinterpret characters for different settings except they're not adapting the pharisees, they're adapting the stand-in bad guys who have taken the pharisees place, and you end up with nyack 1998. or 2012at. or just generically evil people in suits, completely ignoring who they are and how they're written as well as being just. distasteful. and sure its a free world you can do what you like with the characters but when its always "lets make them more evil" you do start to wonder.

tl:dr - they're easiest group to make villains + there's now a precedent for them to be vaguely generic bad guys + probably unconscious antisemitism + as always people forget that none of the characters know what story their currently in.

#i feel like this is not very well written but you get the idea #jesus christ superstar #jcs is a very like. sympathetic story. there's not really any room for an outright villain or really any scorn for anyone #like even the temple vendors have that bit thats like 'we at least are still alive' there's an underlying theme of like. do you really #have a right to judge any of these people.#[remembers i know jack shit about music and/or theatre] this is just my opinion i could be way off idk

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goofiest sax solo ever

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Do you know this Musical Song? #397

I know the song and the musical

I know the song but not the musical

I know the musical but not the song

I may know this

I have never heard this

Remaining time: 6 days 2 hours

#hiiii

going to start posting this to any theatres putting on a production of jcs

#not a perfect analogy but its a start #sorry ik i'm annoying about this. complaining will continue until i see any thought go into portrayal of the pharisees #jesus christ superstar #productions clock that theres an Outgroup and an Establishment but they forget that theres actually 2 Establishments and one has #a lot more power than the other #like dgmw the pharisees do have power over their people but thats THEIR people. who they also crucially want to keep alive.

thenwearedecided

trial before pilate - vienna 2006

#sorry thinking of this again. the fucking. hand in his hair???

awaggaa

yeah

val10 doing its best to piss me off with these song endings istg

#the end of hotm bleeds straight into wtb before judas has finished his last note #meanwhile the end of everythings alright feels like it goes on for decades #and simon zealotes has the same problem and they don't even end it on amen lmao. yknow. a pretty key part of the song.

in honour of some of my favourite last supper interpretations:

choose your last supper drink and/or distribution method

massive fuck off goblet

beer (also doubles as the bread)

cups that i thought were candles until someone drank from one

communion wine

cheap tiny plastic cups (think of all the money you saved for the poor)

cup that has maybe 3 teaspoons of wine in it thanks to jesus' bad pouring

?? bowls???

one single tiny cup for all 13 of you

Remaining time: 4 days 3 hours

examples:

#this isnt a bread poll but i liked jcs catalunya for the bread being crisps and the genderblind jcs for the bread being pizza crusts #jesus christ superstar #one of these days i'll buckle and make a uquiz but idk what the answers would be #apologies if those are like. normal cups in hungary i've just never seen any like that

uptown-lover

Been thinking about this for a little bit, lemme gather some data

What do you prefer in a "Heaven on Their Mind" performance?

Judas addresses Jesus directly (e.g. 2000 film)

Judas on his own while Jesus is doing something (e.g. 72 film)

both, both is good

Remaining time: 3 days 8 hours

#both ig? its fun when judas is physically badgering jesus to get him to listen #but i also like when jesus is on a different bit of the stage as like. a representation of the distance.#like he's there but he's not There.#basically as long as jesus is either physically or mentally Not There i'm cool w it

terrible news after sticking to the 1975 spanish translation for 3 songs valencia 2010 suddenly starts doing its own thing part way through this jesus must die, so we're back to relying on my listening skills unless i can find the lyrics somewhere

#lord help me. we are back to madlibs

encountered opposite ends of the judas outfit spectrum today

#for the first one i was like oh they've given him the visually distinct bandana tm but then the other apostles showed up also #wearing bandanas and i immediately lost him lmao #jesus christ superstar #second one rlly gets me bc he's already wearing bright red and they were still like fuck what if no one clocks who he is

anyone here like shakespeare

#my apologies to esteemed academic g wilson knight and also. shakespeare. for comparing his work to a rock musical about jesus #just needed 2 get this out of my system. whats the phrase. playing with texts like dolls

funniest way of ending everythings alright ever. thank you vienna06

#like how couples work out who gets the dog in the divorce #jesus christ superstar

thenwearedecided

judas and jesus could do "do not presume too much upon my love - i may do that i shall be sorry for / you have done that you should be sorry for" and brutus and cassius could do "i don't care why you do it / to think i admired you, well now i despise you"

#prev you should!! once you get the hang of his writing shakespeare's plays are pretty easy to follow #if you like i can give you the link to my shakespeare folder w like. 6 recorded versions of julius caesar

judas and jesus could do "do not presume too much upon my love - i may do that i shall be sorry for / you have done that you should be sorry for" and brutus and cassius could do "i don't care why you do it / to think i admired you, well now i despise you"

#the jc/jcs parallels haunt me sometimes. what if you were cracking under pressure and grief and i first had to watch my plans #for a better future fall apart because of you and then watch myself get turned into a dishonourable figure in your shadow #jesus christ superstar #2017 rsc brutus and cassius could also do the essen brawl lmao

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