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[theonlyrj]

Itachi didn’t find Obito; Danzo worked with him to assassinate the 4th Hokage by leaking his wife’s delivery location and letting the 9 tails loose.

We’re supposed to believe Itachi found Obito, with no evidence, or even hearsay as to what methods he used, how long it took and How he knew “Madara” was alive.  It’s one of those “trust me, bro” moments that Kishimoto uses that proves he shouldn’t have written past the “world establishment phase” of the manga.  

There is no way Obito found Kushina’s decided birthing location by tailing Kakashi.  The only thing he found out was that Kushina was close to giving birth.  He wouldn’t even need to use Zetsu spores, he just needed a time, Danzo supplied the rest.  

He had every motive to kill Minato.  He was suppressing Danzo’s power in the council and restricting his movements against other countries.  Danzo found the real Madara when he was researching how to implant sharingans and they made a deal; “kill Minato for me and make it look like the Uchiha did it so I can go back to manipulating Hiruzen behind the scenes (or even throw pretense out the window and become Hokage myself if he dies during the attack), and I’ll supply you with a portion of Sharigans when I kill off the Uchiha clan in a secret coup.”  

The only people privy to Kushina’s location were Minato, Hiruzen and his wife (who I’m sure was cheating on him with Dazo, considering how much Asuma looks like him and shares the same chakra nature, with having any in common with Hiruzen, but hey details), and the village elders (which Danzo still held his seat on.)  It doesn’t take a genius to realise that Danzo leaked the agreed location to Obito, who would only have to wait until Danzo told him “It’s going down”  or he found out by tailing Kakashi, who was told Kushina was close, but not told her location for security reasons.  

After all of that, Itachi goes looking for “Madara” to help kill his clan with no evidence the fucker is alive and succeeds?!  I have a better time believing the guy who filmed Bigfoot succeeded in finding aid creature, but also doing it without any experience in tracking, and getting a shot in broad daylight the first god damn time they tried.  No, Danzo pointed Itachi in the right direction, or hell, probably had the dick’s address and phone number and sent Itachi off with a note pinned to his jacket.  I’m starting to think the reason Itachi is so popular is because he clearly has mild autism and we know how popular THAT is on this site.  

[anti-endings]

What rumors did Tobirama promote about the Uchiha? He was discussing with his brother in private, we never know whether he made those suspicions public. Also, wasn't Tobirama technically right about the curse of hatred? Even Itachi said something similar about how the Uchiha gain their powers. Not a Tobirama fan, I'm just curious, is all.

I’ve answered this before, so I’ll just quote myself:

Both Tobirama’s “theory” and his views were wrong and bigoted. When Tobirama told Hashirama the rumours about the uchiha’s sharingan power, Hashirama told him to shut up. Tobirama said the uchiha were cursed by hatred, and he’s glad they died out, Hashirama, his own brother, said “I told you not to discriminate the uchiha”. Hashirama was aware of his brother’s prejudice against the uchiha, and his tendency to discriminate them. Orochimaru said Tobirama’s policy was to alienate the uchiha, and take advantage of the tension between police and citizens to make other villagers hate them. That’s two characters who consider Tobirama a bigot, and criticised his policy. The one character who defended Tobirama was Tobirama himself.

I’ve seen people say his theory is true cos he’s observed the uchiha and he’s a scientist. Scientists can be wrong too, they can be blinded by their own personal bias too. There’re scientists who say climate change doesn’t exist. Canonverse evidence about the sharingans also shows his theory is wrong. First, Shiusui, Itachi and Kagami were all sharingan wielders, they’re never shown to be “cursed” by hatred. Second, sharingans are rare, (sasuke said in part 1, only a few elites had them). Tobirama were prejudiced against all uchiha because of a condition affected only a few.  Third, we’ve seen awakening of the sharingans due to stress in the middle of a fight,  It’s not always about loss and isolation as Tobirama claimed.

Also, why should we trust Itachi on this? He’s the one who said Madara tooks his brothers’ eyes by force cos he’s going blind. He’s full of shits.

While I think the evidence in the canon contradicted his “theory”, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kishi intended him to be right. It’d mean this series tells you people who carry genes for mental illness should be massacred because they can become violent and dangerous. Well, that’s one more reason to hate this trash series.

Rumours are not broadcasted, they’re spread through daily private conversations. So yes, he spread rumour. He thought unproven malicious rumours targeted at a group in the village were credible enough to bring to the attention of the head of the village. Sounds stupid to me. 

[theonlyrj]

Not to mention, anger is typically a part of the grieving process. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. Literally everyone goes through this when they or someone close to them is dying. Not to mention it makes sense to anger towards someone who killed someone you loved. Tobirama made it sound like it was exclusively an Uchiha trait. If that doesn't prove his bias, nothing does.