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At what season did voltron start to go downhill?
ya know iâve been trying hard not to v-slur on main anymore because itâs 2019 and at some point you just have to Let It Goâą, but iâve finally reached a point where i can actually talk about it without burning up in righteous fury so here goes:
VLD started going downhill in S3, for a very specific reason.
iâve said it before but itâs always worth repeating: SF/fantasy lives or dies on the strength of its worldbuilding. solid, consistent worldbuilding is key to ensuring the willing suspension of disbelief from your audience. a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that, because itâs SFF, you can just âmake things upâ - because isnât it all just made up magic mumbo-jumbo? you can just fudge it, right? but the opposite is true. the more fantastical the story elements, the more precise and consistent you need to be in your worldbuilding details. this is about as close as the genre gets to a golden rule: include whatever you like, no matter how fanciful or creative, but for the love of all things holy make sure it follows a set of logical rules.
consistent lore helps to keep the fantastical elements feeling real and solid, but it also prevents them turning into a deus ex machina. magic is the classic example of this. if you read any writing advice at all about writing in fantasy settings, youâll see the same guidelines repeated over and over again: your magic system should have rules. without rules, âmagicâ becomes a cheat code that gets you out of any plot problems. magic without rules and constraints feels too all-powerful, too easy - the audience will get bored of it. the same is true for almost every fantastical SF/fantasy element you include in the story. if thereâs no rules - if the magic or the advanced tech can just do whatever you need it to do, whenever your characters are in trouble - then the story looses any sense of tension. there are no stakes, because the over-powered magic-using heroes can just wave their hands and magic their way out of everything.
this is⊠pretty much what happened to VLD.
voltronmort is a science fantasy space opera about magical robot lions. itâs deep in the intersection of two genres that rely heavily on solid worldbuilding to keep them together. if your story has magical robots you need to make sure those magical robots abide by a set of rules that make logical sense. this is just⊠SF 101. like. donât write SF/fantasy if youâre not prepared to really nerd out in the worldbuilding, dude. honestly.
for the first two seasons, VLD kept its worldbuilding pretty rock solid. the show had problems, sure - people will point to weak spots in S1-2 and moments that could have been handled better - but whatever its other flaws, it stuck to its own rules for how the world and the Lions worked. then we got to S3, and all that flew out of the window.
there is a reason why many people didnât bother catching up on VLD after S3; why many casual viewers dropped it after S2 and never got back into it. itâs not just because of Shiro going missing (he is arguably the showâs most popular character). itâs also because S3 is where the worldbuilding started getting shaky, and there is no faster way to make a SF narrative fall apart at the seams than going âwe can just fudge this a bit, canât we?â no. no you cannot fudge it. you broke a perfectly good space opera is what you did. look at it. itâs got deus ex machina out the wazoo.
S3 is where Lion-Paladin bonds got thrown out the window in favour of âsomething something training wheels Lion something second in command Lion somethingâ and boy howdy did that massively impact on the general quality of storytelling. i really cannot stress enough how much the Lion Switch utterly destroyed VLD. and no, thatâs not me throwing my toys out of the pram over my fave getting screwed over - i did that already, iâm past that. no, this is about basic SF/fantasy writing. itâs about the number one thing you Do Not Do when writing SF. and VLD did it, because the showrunners fell into the trap of thinking âhey, itâs SF! we can just make shit up, right? we can fudge it!â
*stares into the camera like iâm on the office* that is not how Rule of Cool works.
giant magical robot lions that combine into a bigger robot is⊠a pretty daft idea, actually. yeah i said it. itâs inherently kinda ridiculous. but S1-2 managed to sell the audience on that concept for a number of reasons: firstly, because it was just really earnest about it, and secondly, because there was some solid lore to back it up. S1-2 had an underlying theme of elemental symbolism that tied the Paladins to their Lions. it never got really spelled out in canon, but it was implied throughout. Lance, the Paladin of Water, loved mermaids and missed the rain; his Lion got stronger when they visited a water planet, and it had watery powers like an ice cannon and a sonar cannon. Keith was fiery and unpredictable, and the Red Lion was the same, and it also had a fire cannon. and so on. the Lions had personalities, and those personalities matched with their pilots, and both Lion and Paladin felt tied to their own unique element. the solid, reliable Paladin of Earth; the astronaut Paladin of the Cosmos. all that good jazz. even without being shoved in your face, this undercurrent of elemental coding and matching helped the Lion/Paladin connection feel solid and real. that, in turn, helped the whole story feel deeper. S1-2 were widely regarded as really good, solid, amazing television - proof that you can sell people on the most ridiculous concepts as long as you back it up with consistent worldbuilding that makes sense and follows a solid internal logic.
then S3 dropped, and half the team switched Lions, and suddenly the lore wasnât consistent anymore. and that was the point where VLD started to fall apart.
the frustrating thing is, voltronmort had really great worldbuilding. but in S3, the showrunnersâ desire to switch up the Lions overrode the pre-established show mythology, with disastrous results. the only thing worse than not having consistent lore is taking actual, solid, well-thought-out lore and then putting it through a shredder so you can âhandwave itâ for plot reasons. the Lion Switch in S3 didnât make sense, and from there, it was all downhill.
pre-S3, Lion-Paladin bonds were presented as an important part of the showâs mythos and the charactersâ individual arcs. they were based on matching temperaments and âthe quintessence of the Pilot is mirrored in his Lionâ - the idea that Lions and Paladins were fundamentally the same, that at their core they shared the same values and personality that allowed them to bond and work closely together. not only was this a cool SFF concept that promised some interesting storylines to come, it also helped to keep the world feeling real and consistent and believable.
post-S3, Lion-Paladin bonds became a cheap deus ex machina. Keef is the leader because the Black Lion picked him. but⊠shouldnât Allura be the leader? she was already the overall commander of the team, after all. but nope, âBlack picked Keef!â became the deus ex machina that justified a completely nonsensical reshuffle. i have pointed out numerous times that this shuffle made no sense so iâm not going to rehash that in detail, but the Lion Switch is so out of wack with the rest of the showâs mythology that it doesnât survive even the most cursory application of Fridge Logic. if you really think about it even a little bit, it crumbles under the weight of logic. it also relies on some fudged, made up new ârulesâ that never existed before. âoh, the Red Lion is the second in command Lionâ uuuhhh⊠since when?? âBlue is the training wheels Lion!â that doesnât even make a tiny amount of sense. itâs a trainwreck. itâs complete garbage.
the Lion Switch is what you get when two showrunners who donât respect the genre force through a reshuffle based on plot reasons and/or their own personal, selfish preferences. the lore has to get junked in order to make it happen, but they donât care because they think you can just âmake it upâ. which is what they did. and the result is a mess that never really got back on track. from there, it was all downhill. multiple aspects of the story started unravelling. Alluraâs magic became a giant deus ex machina that was wheeled out during season finale fights and then promptly forgotten about. the Lionsâ personalities disappeared, presumably because they were inconvenient now. donât even get me started on S7âČs âoh Shiro is just. not a Paladin anymore because. uh. well. LOOK OVER THERE! AN EXPLOSION!â
in many ways, VLD is an object lesson in how NOT to write science fantasy. i could write a whole thesis about all the many many ways VLD fucked up what should be easy staples of the genre (how can you get clones that wrong iâll never understand). but if you want to find the linchpin - the one thread that was pulled that made everything start to fall apart - itâs the Lion Switch. if you want to know the season where VLD started to get irredeemably bad: S3, and the Lion Switch. that was the start of the inexorable slide into pointless boring garbage.
Death of a Dark Youth, Desecration of the Animus: The Fate of Voltron Legendary Defenderâs Space Prince and What It Means For Heroines in Coming of Age Stories
FelixAzrael
December 20, 2018
âPoor Allura! All the power in the universe at your fingertips and still you fear using it!â â Emperor Lotor, Voltron: Legendary Defender Season 6.
âI will not fear using my power!â â Princess Allura, Voltron: Legendary Defender Season 8.
I: Introduction
The recent culmination of Voltron: Legendary Defender (VLD) has left many fans of the series confused, upset, lukewarm, and even outraged. The most generous Rotten Tomatoes audience ratings indicate less than 20% of audience members rated the final season 3 stars or above (Rotten Tomatoes 1). Although the season contained many problems with plot structure, unresolved plot threads, character arcs, representation, and thematic material, this essay will focus on the problems specific to Princess Alluraâs Heroineâs Journey, her romantic arc with the Emperor Who Pierced the Veil, and what the death and desecration of her Dark Youth and Animus counterpart could mean for childrenâs storytelling. To do this, we need a basis for literary discussion.
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The Lion Switch did everyone dirty, including VLD
Since Iâve talked about this off and on in other metas, I want to summarise my thoughts about why the Lion Switch storyline was so unsatisfying, and why it did a disservice to every character involved. Iâve talked about this issue a lot with regards to how it affects Shiro, but in the aftermath of S7 I think itâs important to analyse how the Lion Switch robbed multiple characters of satisfying arcs. The problem with the Lion Switch comes down to two things:
Rather than providing opportunities for growth and development, the Switch actually just reinforced some of the worst fears of the characters involved, and kept people locked in static and unsatisfying narratives.
The Switch also destroyed VLDâs central themes and messages of self-acceptance, and the idea that everyone on the team was equally important no matter what their role.
This is a slightly long one, so itâs going under the cut:
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LISTEN I didnât watch Takashi Shirogane fight Zarkonâs ass in the astral plane, get the black bayard back and spend 4 seasons dead as part of the black lionâs consciousness just for freaking ZARKON to be the one who got to pilot Black for the last time. FUCK.Â
@dreamworksanimation and @voltron - its hard to fuck up something that simple but congrats on managing.
the main writing flaw with lotor is that he was an azula (much less well written and much less intimidating, but still) without a zuko, and azulaâs narrative with abuse, when itâs the only one presented, is damaging, but that doesnât mean that how lotor is, in canon, A) ever had redemption in the cards or B) narratively deserved it
the specific issue with Lotor is that heâs bait.
LM and JDS took a character who has been a villain in every other iteration of Vulturd - a character they openly admitted they never intended to redeem - and then they dangled the possibility of redemption and complexity in front of fans. the âabused as a childâ backstory was bait. the âuwu heâs been through some trauma heâs a sad boiâ was bait. the romance with Allura was bait. all of it was bait. the co-opting of the abuse survivor narrative for Lotor was a particularly cruel and poor-taste way of baiting the audience into feeling sorry for him and rooting for him; of riding on the waves of sympathy whilst still fully intending to portray this character as a terrible murderous villain who dies horribly.
and they did it as a trick. they wanted to fool the audience into rooting for Lotorâs redemption, so that they could go âhaha gotcha you fools!â when he inevitably took a turn for the worse. this is not good storytelling. it is not a sincere and thoughtful examination of the effects of abuse and neglect and childhood trauma. Lotor wasnât written this way because LM and JDS wanted to write a moving and ultimately tragic examination of the nature of evil and good intentions; he wasnât written this way so that abuse survivors could have someone to relate to and root for in the narrative. he was written this way so that the showrunners could feel smart. so that they could feel like they put one over on the audience, and duped fans into rooting for someone they always intended to play as an evil villain.
this is bad faith storytelling of the worst possible kind, and it hurt a lot of people along the way.
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The black lion did not save shiro from death itself and keep his soul safe inside her for god knows how long itâs been since season 2 for shiro not to be her paladin
^^^^
Key points from the Letâs Voltron interview with Lauren Montgomery & Joaquim Dos Santos
LM & JDS donât really know Altean time (like ticks, quintants, decaphoebs, etc.) and all that lore was made up by individual writers.
They donât remember their initial pitch to Andrea Romano.
There were always plans for 78 episodesâno more or less.
Netflix played around with the season episode counts but it ânever affected production.â At one point they wanted to have Voltron release one episode every two weeks, but LMJDS shot it down because it was âtoo much like network TV.â
âOur bible was about as loose as youâll find,â JDS said. They also add in later that they specifically kept things out of the showâs bible so they could sneak it passed the higher ups later on.
Characters arcs were adjusted as they went and while they knew Zarkon would be the main antagonist of arc 1 (s1-2) and Lotor for arc 2 (s3-6), they had no idea what arc 3 (s7-8) would be like until later on.
Shiroâs arc was originally meant just to set up Keithâs arc while still not feeling like an expendable character (because he was slated to die early on like in Go Lion). Keith & Shiroâs arcs intertwined more closely after they were told they must keep Shiro in the show to sell toys of him.
JDS pitched a flashback for Shiroâs childhood that showed him with his family at a young age but it became ânot as important to tellâ as other aspects of his life, and LM added that his backstory felt ârepetitiveâ against all the other characters (familial) backstories.
Mattâs voice actor was often not available so they had to write him out of a lot of episodes and replace him with Sam.
They had to work in lion upgrades from the toys into the show and also had nothing to do with the elemental lion symbols used in all the marketing (official website, toys, apparel, etc.) and actually disliked them and tried to re-design them but marketing didnât use the re-designs.
A lot of things like Altean science were kept abstract because they felt as though explaining it explicitly would âtake the magic away.â
Ezor and Zethrid were allowed to be together because they were not âfront and centerâ characters nor were they the ones that the higher ups were âhanging the franchise on.â
The original Shiro/Adam scene had them in their apartment (later changed to Galaxy Garrison lounge) as explicit boyfriends (later changed to flight partners) but the higher ups would not let it pass so they had to change a lot of aspects about the scene but tried to keep as much of the original staging as they could.
It wasnât until âShera was in developmentâ that the higher ups came back and said they could revisit the scene, but Adam had already been killed off at that point, so they had to choose whether or not they wanted to have the scene be more explicit or keep it platonic, knowing Adam was dead.
They didnât want to bring Adam back for the finale epilogue wedding scene because it would be a âfar jumpâ that would open up âtoo many questionsâ about how Adam survived the crash.
In the original storyline, Veronica was going to return with the rebels and Adam wouldâve been with her and he and Shiro wouldâve reunited.
LM said that Alluraâs sacrifice only restored planets that were killed before their time shouldâve been up, like Altea, and that her powers did not apply to souls because it wouldâve been âtoo godlike.â
LM & JDS wanted to walk away at one point but they felt bad for the crew so they stayed on the project.
âMaybe someday someone will fix our mess up.â -LM
They confirmed there were never any options for a âhappy endingâ and JDS said while he âhates to burst any bubblesâŠthere is no alternate cut of Voltron.â
They avoided social media due to the backlash of season 8.
So.
-They throw away the Bible, the single most important tool of storytelling because itâs what freelance writers use to make their episodes coherent with the rest (and, by law, about half the episodes of a TV show have to be written by freelance writers). Thus ensuring that about half the show would be liable to contradict the rest in both plot and characterization.
-They claim that they did it so they could sneak stuff past the higher ups. I remember one old interview that said that the higher ups were surprised by Adamâs death because they had assumed that he would eject safely out of the plane. When we think of âsneaking crap past the censorsâ we tend to attribute a positive meaning to it, but in this case, I canât help but see it as âsneak our fuck ups past the teachers.â This feeling is further reinforced by the fact that, were it not for said higher ups, Shiro would have died in S2.
-They had no plans whatsoever for the final 1/3 of the show. Consequently, they never planned any real arc for either the characters or the plot, because you canât plan an arc when you have no idea where you want to take it to.
- âCharacters arcs were adjusted as they wentâ is the most euphemistic way of referring to sudden 180° turns in characterization Iâve ever seen. Sure does explains all the many, many dropped threads and asspulls.
-How very interesting that, say, Pidgeâs backstory is SO important that we must be repeatedly told about and shown everything up to her dog, but Shiroâs backstory is completely dropped, to the point that he might as well have popped out of thin air, because itâs ânot as important.â
-You know what actually takes the magic away? Making it cheap by turning it into a Deus Ex Machina. Alluraâs powers were never explained, which means that they were just a convenient excuse to cheat their way out of whatever corner they wrote themselves into.
-Ezor would literally be dead if the EEEEEEEEBIL higher ups had not forced them to bring her back.
-She-Ra has been in development for almost three years. The timeline doesnât add up, because almost three years ago ago was absolutely early enough in the process that they could have easily revisited the scene.
-Since when do they care about questions? They never bothered to take ten freaking seconds to establish in canon that Shiro is cured from the disease, deciding that interviews were totally good enough to explain mayor plot points. If you go by what you actually see in the show, where they say that Shiro is sick and only has a short time left then they completely drop the subject and never bring it up again, Shiro âleft the battle behindâ because his disease finally caught up with him. Donât even get me started on Kuron or Iâll be here all night.
-I donât believe for a second that the reason they didnât walk away was concern for the crew. JDS and LM donât even work for DW anymore and the show has been over for months, yet they keep giving interview after interview after interview. They just donât want to give up their control.
-I look forward to whatever conspiracy people will inevitably come up with to insist that JDS and LM totally would have given us a satisfying happy ending if DW had not thwarted them.
-Again, they keep contradicting themselves. Previous interviews was âVoltron was always meant to be a show for little childrenâ but then we have âVoltron was never going to have a happy ending.â One of the other points that are not mentioned here is that they supposedly wanted to tell Shiroâs backstory, but couldnât, because there just wasnât enough time (in 78 episodes, where every single other Paladin got theirs and Pidgeâs in particular went deep into trivial details, and there apparently was enough time for tons of filler and for episodes focused entirely on OCs). But in a previous interview, they said that if they had more time, theyâd make more episodes about the MFE pilots.
Sorry to piggyback off of JG, but -Â
First, is it true that Donya from Hypable was a mod for the interview? If so, it just proves the EPs needed a âfriendâ because she is one of their biggest fans in the geek journalism circuit. So the EPs couldnât even do this interview without someone in their âcircle of trust.âÂ
Second, really, Letâs Voltron? Donât give these two a microphone.Â
Third, like JG, Iâm calling -Â
Bullshit.Â
She-Ra began production in April 2016 - so Adamâs scene could have been changed if She-Ra was âin production.â VLD Season 2 was going through ADR in October 2016. Season 5 wasnât finished until April 2017. Season 7 wasnât nailed down until at least August 2017 or even later, and Season 8 wasnât completed until October 2018 - three months before Season 8 dropped and only a month before She-Ra premiered. In a monthâs time, the EPs could add an epilogue, but MORE THAN A YEAR OUT, they couldnât figure out how to save Adam? Are you freaking kidding me!?
Btw - just want to put this here - Adam is He-Manâs real name.Â
Also, who decided to kill Adam off, making it impossible for him to be brought back in any capacity? The EPs. They didnât have to kill Adam. As JG said, the execs were supposedly surprised that Adam died, so why couldnât Adam - boyfriend or flight partner - live and be that connection to Shiroâs past? Instead, the EPs junked a family flashback, kill Shiroâs only potential family, and even decided, âLetâs make him gay and write that terrible trope into our story. And letâs blame the higher ups for not letting us make Adam gay to begin with, though obviously She-Raâs EP fought harder than we did for rep - and succeed on some level.â
Also, thatâs means the supposedly heart-felt plea of âweâre working on gay repâ was bullshit from NYCC 2017 panel, too.Â
Shiroâs âdeathâ - Let me explain this in a Marvel metaphor, so the EPs will understand. If you are killing a character, then you deem him expendable. Thereâs no ifs, ands, or buts there. And if you set-up that character up as Steve Rogers in Captain America: The First Avenger, then you canât make Bucky Barnes Cap in the sequel. Itâs not gonna fly with your viewers. And if you thought it would - never mind. You already proved your incompetence, JDS & LM.Â
What the EPs actually said was regarding the time elements: âThe lore was set up by competent writers - and then they left.â
As JG said, Ezor and Zethrid were only together because of backlash. Even the storyboard artist admitted Ezor was killed.
So who did DreamWorks hang the franchise on? Shiro? Keith? Iâd like to know. And if it is Shiro - Iâm guessing there is more Voltron on the way.Â
âToo godlike.â DOESNâT MATTER cuz yet again, itâs not in the story. Seriously. We have no idea what happened after all realities restarted other than Altea and Daibaazal came back. Anything else is up to the viewerâs interpretation. And Elsa created Olaf. ALLURA CAN BE WHATEVER GODDESS HER VIEWERS DEEM. Plus - Allura and Lotor are in the stars/space, appearing like a goddess and god. But that wasnât âtoo godlike,â apparently.Â
âŠwait. So in LMâs mind, all the planets are empty? CreepyâŠ
The EPs couldnât walk away. One word. Contract. (Itâs like they think weâre all children who donât have jobs of own and similar deals.) And they didnât consider walking away. You know how I know? Cuz half the team leaders left - HEAD WRITER, THE ONLY FEMALE WRITER (technically, half the writing staff left). THREE DIRECTORS. Who did they feel bad for who was left? The artists they have never mentioned at all? I think they spoke about Ryu, the supervising producer, once. Even the intern on Tumblr said she met JDS once in the hallway. The situation is akin to a c-suite where the COO, CFO, CMO, and CCO left, but the CEO didnât cuz he felt bad for that coordinator in marketing.
âHate to burst anyoneâs bubble - but I deleted any files the second before I walked out the door. Otherwise I could have been sued for copyright infringement due to the inclusion of Roy, which I left out of the bible so the higher-ups didnât know I was setting them up for a lawsuit. Toodles!â
JDS & LM avoided social media cuz Marketing told them to. They were off the month following Season 7, and they did the NYCC panel. Thatâs it. They didnât give another interview after SDCC until after their contract was done with DW. They didnât even do after-panel interviews for NYCC.Â
Even Marketing didnât want credit for their stuff, hence the call-out that the production team made the trailer. And btw - I have more faith in Marketing now cuz they said, âNah, we arenât using your designs.â ThoughâŠI do wonder if thatâs what the redesigned Black Paladin insignia was. And also - since when does Marketing make content for the show? They take content from the show. They wouldnât have been the ones making those paladin logos unless the EPs were supposed to and someone in the higher office gave the CMO the O.K. to do so - because the EPs werenât doing their jobs. Â
Considering the bible is the foundation of your story, I see why the series went off the rails. Incompetence abounds with these two.Â
TL;DR:Â
âMaybe someday someone will fix our mess up.â
Understatement and GOD I HOPE SO.Â
When VLD ended, my take was somewhere, someone was taking notes to use VLD as an example of how not to write long-form multi-season television. With each new interview from these two clowns, Iâm betting thereâs someone out there organizing a syllabus for Fire Your Client If They Do This, and possibly also one with JDS and LM as poster children for a class on how to recognize control-issue micromanager personalities before you hire them.Â
I bet that was one fascinating end-of-series post-mortem over at DreamWorks.Â
lauren and Joaquim are as incompetent and idiotic as I've come to expect.
hey remember when the paladins of voltron placed a prisoner of war into solitary confinement, under relentless intimidation and interrogation, then bartered him as a hostage for a prisoner exchange to his murderous genocidal dictator father who was definitely going to kill him?Â
remember when they were war criminals?
hey remember when the paladins of voltron placed a prisoner of war into solitary confinement, under relentless intimidation and intimidation, then bartered him as a hostage for a prisoner exchange to his murderous genocidal dictator father who was definitely going to kill him?Â
remember when they were war criminals?
Their crimes donât negate Lotorâs.
Lotor's crimes don't negate theirs. And they're supposed to be the heroes.
hey remember when the paladins of voltron placed a prisoner of war into solitary confinement, under relentless intimidation and interrogation, then bartered him as a hostage for a prisoner exchange to his murderous genocidal dictator father who was definitely going to kill him?Â
remember when they were war criminals?
You know, everytime I see new information about the creators of voltron wanting things to be drastically different the more it seems that they legitimately wanted to make a different story than the one greenlit. I just wonder if they were allowed to keep things the way they wanted, could the set up arcs better no matter how tragic? They had alright humor and good sense of pacing with action just sloppy character/plot work as they floundered story changes.
NO.
You realize that sloppy character/plot work is the story, right? You literally just gave the definition of a badly written story, and you think if the EPs had gotten to write a hypothetical tragedy, not a kidsâ show, automatically they would have been able to write a coherent story?
Let me repeat.
NO.
Plot is a series of events, selected by author, that brings around the resolution of a conflict. The bare minimum any writer should be able to do is create a story that makes sense.
JDS and LM did nothing of the sort.
- The clone subplot had no resolution or back story.
- Shiro and Lanceâs arcs were abandoned.
- Keith became a leader leading no one. (Seriously.)
- Allura went to Oriande to learn her powers, but âthe power was inside her all along,â i.e she never had to go. (And no, itâs not the journey. The journey did nothing to help her perspective. It got her closer to Lotor - which could have been done while they struggled to learn their new powers.)
- The EPs literally have no explanation for what happened with Lotor, either.
- Honerva says she has no motherly instincts in âThe Black Paladinsâ after she used Kuron as a baby monitor in âBlood Duel,â and then she goes on a mission to be reunited with her son and her husband - with her dead son in her mecha. âŠI donât even know what to say here. Thatâs just insane.
Oh, and hereâs an example of how the EPs approved the MFE pilots being called to ready for battle THREE TIMES in less than two episodes before they were actually deployed.
And what we know about this âdifferent storyâ is - the EPs wanted to kill Shiro. No wait, Keith. No wait, Hunk. And they would have killed Pidge while she was saving her family if there wasnât a âno killing rule,â so they couldnât kill anyone - but wait, they could kill Shiro and they got the greenlight to kill Hunk, and then they killed Allura, just for good measure.
âŠwhat?
Dude, they canât even get their story straight in one interview. VLD was a freakinâ mess, and you think the EPs had a different story they wanted to tell that was or would have been magically amazing?
NOOOOOO.
Circling around to your other thoughts - the pacing of action - thatâs a directorâs role, which by the way, JDS and LM were both coming to VLD.
Humor? Not sure what show you were watching, but the humor in the last few seasons was terrible. Pidge getting yelled at by her mom for saving her dad and brother? What? How is that funny? Thatâs just insane - again.
(Go watch Carmen Sandiego for the humor that went missing from VLD after Season 3.)
Look, I donât know why you place confidence in people WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WRITING CREDITS prior to VLD or even prior to Season 6, where in one episode, JDS destroyed the showâs main theme - found family. They wrote only two other episodes - âLaunch Day,â which was cringe-worthy to me, and âThe End is the Beginning,â in which Allura was killed.Â
Stop giving these people any writing credit. They didnât âflounderâ story changes. The writing process includes revisions. These people canât write a coherent story. Thatâs it. Thereâs nothing more to it.
lm and jds really wanted to kill hunk off and replace him with acxa huhÂ
@dreamworksanimation @voltron Hi! Itâs me again. Dev, your friendly neighborhood marketing consultant. Just here to give you a bit of advice again.
VLD is over, and if you are, at all, a compassionate company with any morals, you gotta get the former EPs off the stage. Today, they admitted that execs gave the okay to kill Hunk (the only minority paladin actually NOT killed once in VLD) but were ultimately told they couldnât because there couldnât be three female paladins.
I honestly donât know what even to say to that other than, âWhy?â Just why would that even come up? No part of that is remotely logical in the one-time kidsâ show or should have been spoken about in a post-series interview (and I reiterate - huh?!). As compassionate person, Iâm offended by all of that. ALL OF IT.
But even beyond that - WHY WOULD YOU EVER LET THEM TALK AGAIN FOR VLD?
You pulled the EPs from interviews post SDCC (other than NYCC). They are off the payroll. RT currently has a score of 7% approval for Season 8, and if you think that is because of ships, you are mistaken. Look at all the responses that ARENâT about ships.
DreamWorks, come on. I thought you were getting better at this. Let VLD go or FIX IT. But you are just destroying your brand, and honestly, I didnât think you could do worse after S8. And somehow, you always seem to prove me wrong.
Oh, and if you at all think VLD and Castlevania are tied in some way by target market - know this. Castlevania was better written. VLD was, after S2, just demoralizing and horrifying for all the wrong reasons, not at all coherent and mature like Castlevania.
Staff: Say that Lotor was "too far gone" for redemption
Also staff: Easily redeem Haggar & Zarkon w/no qualms
Do you remember that "weapon" creature that Krolia sicked on the Galra general? Do you know if that whole plot went anywhere or if the showrunners just VLD:ed it?
they VLDed it