Tim: Okay, Final argument time. Bruce Your arguments thus far against killing have been heart warming, but subjective. Jason your arguments for killing has been thought provoking, but again, subjective. For this final portion of this debate, that Steph has coined “Red Robin: Kill or No Kill” I will only be considering objective argument, with bonus points for empirical evidence. My fate is in your hands. Would Red Robin make a better impact on Gotham if he was open to killing unrepentant villains? Go!
Bruce, rubbing his temples: Tim are you really choosing your morals based on a debate?
Dick: He didn’t have morals pre-installed, this is how he gets them.
Steph: I lost the debate on why stalking is wrong years ago, so you guys can blame me for that one.
Damian: Enough chatter, begin the debate
Tim: *pressed red button that makes a boo sound* Subjective
Bruce: Okay, We are not judge, jury and executioner. We are citizens. We have no right to take the lives of others. Doing so makes us no better than the criminals we fight every night. Killing is killing, intentions do not matter.
Duke: Idk that was pretty subjective.
Tim: I’ll allow it. Half a point for Bruce. Jason, rebuttal?
Jason, pulls out folder filled to the brim with annotated research papers, text books, and a personally written essay that contained a work cited: Intentions may not matter, but impact does. For example, Black Mask caused the death of 52 Gothamites this year. 46 last year, and 68 the year before, spanning back the last 10 years. If i killed black masked, I would be saving the lives of about 50 people a year. By killing one person, I would be preventing the deaths of hundreds of people, depending on whatever his natural lifespan would be.
Barbara: Is this the research paper you were working on in the Library? I thought that was for finals?
Jason: I finished up my finals last week, got a head start.
Tim: Wow, 3 points for the argument, 3 points for the data backing it up, and 3 extra points for doing research and citing your sources. Great Job Jason.
Dick: Bruce, as funny as I think this is, please don’t lose this debate. I think we’d be unleashing hell upon gotham if he gives himself the green light to murder.
Damian: *Taking notes with a very serious look on his face*
Dick: … And we need to set a good example
Bruce: *sighing* I didn’t want to say this but Jason brings up points for why Red Hood should kill. But not why Red Robin should kill. We have evidence that you should never go down that path in multiple different universes and futures where you become . . . gun batman.
Dick: He has a good point
Steph: Hate to say this but yea B won
Barbara: That’s at least 10 points.
Jason: I have so many more points to make.. but you know what, I cede your argument
Tim:.. I thought we agreed never to talk about Gun Batman ever again
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