Going back to cookierun ovenbreak... And dear god it's not the same as the last time I remembered it. It's so different! (And rip my old save file...)
I remember back then when I loved Red Bean Cookie and Adventurer Cookie, remembered how I strived to get Bubblegum Cookie because of his colourful design and the bubblegum cannon... I remember when Moon Rabbit Cookie was released... Damn it's just been a long time since I last played this game!
i feel as if the reactions in your previous post was unnecessary.
no one said they were offended by your art in any way, but there were just a few mistakes that were pointed out because they were improved.
OLNF is a game full representation, and it feels unfair to be pressed over someone wanting to keep that representation in the fandom too
the reaction that the previous ask wanted was a simple acknowledgement, not a 19 paragraph post justifying your mistakes. no ones judging you're art or saying you're purposefully being malicious
Ahoy there! Thanks for the ask! And for pointing those out. I apologise if it seemed that way! I'm just not quite good with words... Maybe I did went a bit rant-y... I simply tried my best to answer and explain what was pointed out in the last ask. I mostly write in case if there's any of those implications, just to be safe! There's always two sides in everything, after all. And I understand if all of those sounded like justifications, I simply tried to explain the process in my mind behind that drawing to clear things up, since it's a problem to some people.
For your second point, I agree with that. Representation is important, truly! And I can agree with the pressure of wanting to keep that. I guess I do feel that way when I planned to draw for the fandom, just thought that I might not be able to do so correctly, like how... I wrote all of those you see as justifications, I suppose.
And for the last point, my answer was my way of acknowledging the points in that previous ask, and therefore I tried to explain them in full! I do be judging myself, though (it's my way to keep in mind what to improve), and I could only assume things, of course! I can't say that it's a certainty, so I could only try to make things clear to the best of my ability.
Edit: it seems my answers have made some people lose their trust in me and my words. It's regretable, but it's understandable. Though I want to let you know that in the end, I've answered and acknowledged the points in there, and despite me not saying it, I always keep them in mind to do better next time!
hi vains!! i really love your art, but i have a concern with the recent olnf art you reposted.
qiu looks really pale/gray and tamarack looks like she has an hourglass figure, and i really hope you can see the problem with that.
i wanted to bring it up to you because a couple of people brought it up, and im sure you meant no ill intent!
they also added this:
"prev ask, im referring to your twt art for more context! again, ty for creating art for this fandom and i hope you're able to address this!"
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Ahoy there! Before anything, I hope my wordings are clear enough or hopefully it's not too much, since ESL (English as Second Language for me)...
Edit: I've edited a bit of my answer, reducing the unnecessary parts. It seems my answer was unsatisfactory, and I'm sorry for that! Just know that I do appreciate the points in this ask, despite everything. And as others have cleared it to me that it's supposed to be a form of criticism, I can only say the same thing, that I'm grateful for the points and will keep them in mind for the future. I can't really change what I've posted, so I can only do better next time.
I hope it's alright for me to keep my points down here still, though. For better or worse. To look back and track how much I might improve myself. And I'd like to have some peace of mind to better myself, too. If you're reading this again after the edit, thanks for your time, and I can only hope you'll trust me to be better.
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Thanks for the ask! Yes, I did not mean any ill intent, of course! To any artworks I try to draw, at least! Every attempt is my way of trying to learn. Though since some see this as a problem, I'd like to apologise. I'm not sure if I got this right, but I think you're referring to the repost I did about that design choices doodle I did a year ago for my fan comic back then... But if I'm right, then I'd like to make sure to you and everyone:
It's simply an exploratory doodle I did to jot down outfits I'd like to draw for the comic! And thus, I don't really put too much accuracy into it. It's only an outfit planning. The focus was their outfit designs: types of clothing they would wear, the shape of the overall outfit, parts of the clothing, and colours of the outfit. Thus, I only draw the spontaneous characteristics of the characters only to ease myself in differentiating the characters and their outfits. I don't want to intend people to take it seriously... But here we are, I suppose!
With the first point in mind, for Qiu, I am aware of their skintone. But since it's just for this planning, I wanted to keep in mind that their skin tone was not of the light, white colour in that planning - which is never the case with Qiu themself. That was why I only put a lighter hue of their skin tone rather than white for that purpose.
For Tamarack in that doodle, to be honest, I was still learning how to draw her body type correctly. I did saw some reference photos of "plus size wedding dresses" on pinterest as part of my research for her, and much of the ones I saw was how I drew Tamarack. If you see the post, someone had already pointed out the same thing about how I drew her figure, and I've been trying my best to do better since then. I understand if you'll take this as an excuse, but I thought she looked correct since she was not drawn in a fully front side, and some of it was covered by her arm.
Something to note on the references I saw for point 3, how I see it was: her curves will be more pronounced because of the tightness of the dress, mostly on the waist. Her fat wouldn't be too visible, especially for her torso because of that, and with the potential of covered by her arms or the sleeve part, and also with the fabric and shape of the dress itself. I'd put the effort to at least show her body type if it's from the frontal side, even if it's only a simple doodle.
I'd like to bring up this crazy idea about not judging my effort as a whole simply from this doodle! That post was my early attempts at getting them both right, so there would clearly be imperfections, too! (Then again, what is ever perfect?) I'd like you to see my efforts of doing better in my other artworks! Well, I hope my efforts are shown better in those...
I've seen some planning artworks with this kind of choice of details before, where the colours didn't have to be as accurate as the final product but still with clear definitions and/or characteristics of the object of the planning. I don't have any evidence of that (mostly out of memory from assignments from my classmates in college I peeked and what was shown back then as learning materials...) And it has shaped my choice of aesthetics - if you'd want to call it that, or I hope you get what I mean - for this kind of planning doodles. I guess I was wrong all this time? Since it's seen as a problem. Then again, I'd like you to go back to point 1 and 5 for this one too! -- that was meant to be a "doodle", or more likely "rakugaki" as some call it. It's not meant to be a serious artwork; it's a planning, exploratory, and part practice! I appreciate you pointing it out as a problem, but that fact itself is why I wanna mention this point again, in case some see this as "HEY YOU'RE WRONG [negative]" kind of problem.
I hope these are clear enough for my explanation! I'm still learning and always am! As every artists are, I believe! And I'm a human being, obviously not free from mistakes. I'm grateful for the points, but I applogise if I didn't manage to do good and offend some poeple. I hope you'll trust me that I do be trying to be better every time! I've also seen those people pointing out how this is such a problem and given out tips and the like. I keep those in mind too! Always has been my consideration since I've decided to try drawing them two, even. But apparently it wasn't enough.
I'm aware that my points about that particular artwork as something not to be taken seriously might be justified with "but you uploaded it to the internet anyway, that means it's meant to be seen by people and therefore it's a post to be taken seriously...." I've said my points there, and I can only hope you'd understand! And keep in mind that was a post 1 year ago! I believe I've improved at least a bit since then...
But if you've made up your mind about this is understandable, too. I love drawing them all, but I can step back if the opinions were already tightly shaped simply from the observation of that outfit planning doodle I did and nothing else, and if people already believed I failed to do Qiu and Tamarack justice after all, despite other attempts I've done of them two.
Down here is more explanation, though it maybe a bit redundant, so I hope just the explanations above would suffice! Cheers for your time and here's hoping for a better future... Again, feel free to ask whatever's unclear!
And HELL if I got the wrong post, do tell me! Though I might still say the same thing, mostly: I'm still learning drawing plus sized body type (or at least Tamarack properly), and I believe I always keep Qiu's skin tone in mind in my fan arts of them aside from this planning doodle.
Tried to draw wet surfaces or at least some wet fx!
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Desc: My pokemon oc, Varis, with his Dracovish having a battle as a water-type gym leader (headcanon). A drizzle of rain is visible as the after effect of opposing pokemon's Rain Dance ability, or from an intense water-type attack prior. Dracovish was hit by a water-type special attack but looks unfazed and raring to go still.
