I don't think we talk enough about how horrified Scott looks when he goes back to the the night he was bitten in 3×12. Like you can SEE the shock and the trauma when Peter sinks his teeth into his 16yo past self, and the way he stumbles back and hits the nemeton- like i dont know if this was in the script or not but Posey's acting here is so good. This is one of the most traumatic nights of scott's life and I love that it didn't just get swept under the rug like the show tends to do with all the rest of his ptsd
This is a more serious one. Recently, while talking to some friends in the "Scott McCall Defense Squad", as we are affectionately named, @princeescaluswords noted that he'd received an anonymous ask with the usual Scott slander and racist hate, "Scott is written as white" (wtf do u even mean. cracker ass nonsense), etc., but it also included some troubling lines -- namely, that the anon sincerely believed since Colton Haynes and Tyler Hoechlin have "Native ancestry", that they are more so people of color than Tyler Posey, and the same is true of their respective characters, ideas I will thoroughly disprove.
So, setting aside the blatant racism against Scott, because this post will focus specifically on Native representation and Native identity (and because all of the Scott fans have already made numerous, numerous posts about why Posey shouldn't have to defend being a poc when he is. just a poc. are you blind), let's address the incredibly wrong, racist, and did I mention wrong idea that "Colton Haynes and Tyler Hoechlin are Native American".
A quick google search revealed that Haynes had a great-great-great grandmother that was part of the Cherokee nation, and ancestors up to his great-grandmother on his paternal grandfather's side. The ancestry for his other three grandparents says that they all identified as white.
Now, this is where I say my usual bit: if you're white, and you're reading this post, follow along and keep your opinions to yourself. I am Native (Cree/Narragansett). Not only do I claim heritage to my tribe (I am a member of the Cree nation, as dual Native citizenship isn't typically a thing, despite what Becky from fifth grade who's 1/64th everything might tell you), I am claimed in return. That's how "being Native American" works. You have membership to a tribe. That tribe acknowledges your membership. Ancestry means very little, it is in fact one's connection to their tribe that makes them Native or not.
So, back to the topic at hand. Haynes has Cherokee ancestry. He is not Native American. He is white.
Here's an example. I have Mexican ancestry, but I'm sure as hell not Mexican! I don't speak Spanish or live in Mexico or practice Mexican traditions, none of my immediate family or first generation removed spoke Spanish or lived in Mexico or practiced Mexican traditions, it's through a couple of various great-grandparents that I never met. If I were to claim I was Latino, that would be disingenuous, because I am, in no way other than speaking choppy high school Spanish, connected to my Latino roots. Haynes is, similarly, not connected to his distant Cherokee ancestry, and would have no business calling himself Cherokee. It's a good thing he, unlike the anon, doesn't do that.
Another example. I am brown. That's the color of my skin. Maybelline says I'm somewhere between "warm sand" and "honey". I know fellow Natives in my own tribe who are white as they come, blonde, red-haired, light-eyed, you name it. Some of my close friends joke that I am the Wheat Thin among the crackers. It's funny, because we're all grown enough to make jokes about our own race in good taste, and it's true. I also know Natives that are Black, or actually Indian. I know Natives who have to say "I'm Native" because when they say "I'm Indian" people assume they mean from India. Natives come in all different colors, and "Native" is an ethnicity, not a race. You're a person of color for being Native and visibly native, but there are people who are Native and not people of color. It depends on the person. Haynes is white. I know this through the power of looking at him with my eyeballs.
Okay, so Haynes isn't Native, and he's not a person of color. Quick google search for Hoechlin --
Well, that's interesting. Hoechlin in 2012 on Twitter claimed he had Native ancestry. However, he also said he was "still researching" this claim, and since we know he's not part of any Native tribe and none of his known ancestors are, let's assume that's one of those "your xyz relative was abc kind of Native" stories he was told by a relative, and he genuinely did not know it was untrue, or that his research led him down a wrong path and he didn't know he may have found another person by the same name or some such. The other possible explanation is that, like many white celebrities, he's claiming Native ancestry to be cool, but let's assume that he meant that tweet in good faith.
Either way, he's not Native, and he's sure as hell not a person of color. Great cheekbones, but God-given, not Native-given.
So neither Colton Haynes nor Tyler Hoechlin are Native American or people of color. What now?
Well, now we talk about why I care enough to make a post about it. First of all, because I have other things that I don't want to do, and I'm pissed about the ask Escalus mentioned specifically, but also because there is such a long, tiresome, agonizingly brushed-under-the-rug history of cruelty, violence, and genocide against Native Americans.
Did you know that Native women are the most likely ethnicity of woman to be r*ped, by a significant statistic? Did you know that Native women make the least on a white man's dollar compared to every other ethnicity, male and female? Did you know that the US government and its subsidiary state and county and lower governments are actively encroaching on established Native territory to push us out, again and again? Did you learn about the Trail of Tears in school? That was just for the Cherokee tribe. Most of the rest of us didn't get a chapter in the history textbook, we were just slaughtered, our women stolen as property (see: sex slaves) for white men, our children and elders viciously murdered, our men tortured and killed. Our crops were burned, our lands were destroyed, and we were either kidnapped and enslaved (not, of course, that more than two academic books have been published on Native slavery, and I'd know because I read them both), killed off, or forced to relocate, again and again, to lands we did not know.
Being Native is nothing like Pocahontas. In fact, Pocahontas was nothing like Pocahontas. She was twelve or thirteen when her tribe was attacked by white colonizers, and not that many years older when a different colonizer kidnapped her to England. She was forcefully converted to Christianity, her name was changed to Rebecca, and she died having borne children by a man who kidnapped her from her homeland, a place she never returned to. She was not buried with her people. That's generally a big one for us.
Being Native is a blessing. I am thankful for my heritage, even though I am anything but thankful for my biological parents who gave it to me. Through researching my own bloodline, I found family I did not know I had. I found tribe elders, a community, friends I can make jokes about being Native with.
But being Native also means I have been told to "go back to my country" by white people in the United States. I have had people spit at me, call me a "filthy Mexican immigrant", I have been stopped countless times by police for doing absolutely nothing wrong, and not all of them were friendly. I was reprimanded by my principal in high school for a genealogy project where I had included the fact that my paternal great-grandmother was kidnapped by a white man, because my teacher thought it would have been "nicer" to say that she married him. I have been repeatedly accused of drinking alcohol (I do not drink for personal reasons and cannot drink for medical reasons) with no basis. I have been accused of stealing. I have been accused of every kind of troublemaking under the sun.
Claiming to be Native when you have never experienced being Native is something any reasonable person can agree is morally wrong. People have won scholarships they don't deserve for falsely claiming to be Native, they have won awards, they have gotten more attention, they have been hailed as a spokesperson on race issues they are not actually eligible to speak on. The list goes on. False claims of Native heritage run rampant among white celebrities, I guess because they want to be more popular. I like being Native, but I don't think white people actually want to be non-white. It's not as fun and cool as you think it is. People are racist as hell.
And when white people make up Native heritage, they discredit actual Natives who want to speak about their own experiences. You would oppose a white person claiming to be the authority on being Black -- why would you not do the same for a white person falsely claiming to be Native?
I have been told, by white people, that I'm "not Native enough". Why? Because I don't wear the "right kind of Indian clothes", nevermind the fact that I work in a profession that requires business wear and I am not, in fact, allowed to wear a warbonnet, the image that typically comes to mind when people think of Natives. White people don't get to tell Natives how Native they are, and Native enough is not a judgement call. It is a simple evaluation of fact: are you or are you not a member or have pending membership in a tribe?
And this isn't just for Natives. White people simply do not have an important opinion on races that are not their own. You can have however many opinions you want on race, especially when they relate to you, but you don't have the right to tell someone else about their race. You don't get to say that Posey's character is "written as white". Boyd isn't "written as Black", but no one's arguing that Sinqua Walls is therefore white, because that would be marginally too stupid for the usual anons to consider (though, really, anything can happen when you're that racist). You don't get to say if someone is Native or not, and you especially don't get to say that white people are people of color based on sketchy Native ancestry.
We get it, white Americans want to be important so bad it hurts. You can be important, you just don't get to be important for being Native if you're not. Sorry. Find a new hobby. Learn a foreign language. I know that my friends of color and I find it greatly amusing when white English-speakers try to speak a foreign language, because even if they're really bad at it, it's the thought that counts.
If you want to hear about Native things, ask a Native. I'm right here, and my ask box is open for anonymous and non-anon questions about anything and everything, as long as they are genuine and sent in good faith.
Bonus points: some actual Native actors (and, therefore, characters) in Teen Wolf!
1. Cody Christian (Theo Raeken). Christian is Penobscot Native on his mother's side.
2. Froylan Gutierrez (Nolan Holloway). Gutierrez is Mexican/Caxcan Indigenous on his father's side.
3. Keahu Kahuanui (Danny Mahealani). Kahuanui is a native Hawaiian.
Extra bonus: other actors (and, therefore characters) of color on Teen Wolf you might not have recognized!
1. Andrew Matarazzo (Gabe Valet). Matarazzo is Latino (Brazilian).
2. Henry Zaga (Josh Diaz). Zaga is Latino (Brazilian).
3. Kelsey Chow (Tracy Stewart). Chow is half Chinese on her father's side.
truly believe teen wolf is one of the best stories about surviving an assault. not only that, but surviving the assault, and still remaining yourself.
especially since teen wolf codes the bite as sexual assault almost every time. from scott being bitten by peter and there being no proof except the fact that scott is changed in some way he can't readily define, and then having to deal with the man who assaulted him skulking around, trying to get to him and infiltrate his life and keep hurting him; to derek preying on teenagers in horrible situations.
the show is so good at weaving the themes around not letting yourself be a monster. every single time someone let's their trauma make them into a monster, the narrative tells you it's wrong. we're shown that scott having the willpower to say no to becoming peter, is what's right.
teen wolf at it's core, is a retelling of "little red riding hood," where she gets attacked by the big bad wolf, becomes the wolf, but doesn't become the monster, no matter how hard that is to avoid.
look i'm watching the motel california death by road flare scene for um. video making reasons but it's so so so funny how in scott's speech he's like "you know stiles. before i was bitten by an insane forty year old man in the woods and turned into a creature of the night (awooo) we weren't POPULAR we weren't good at LACROSSE we were NOBODY" because like. arguably stiles still isn't popular. and he definitely isn't good at lacrosse. they're so codependent scott's like no babe. WE got turned into a werewolf. they're insane he's insane. he's just as insane as stiles except people don't notice it because he smiles with his eyes more. would really love to iron them both flat and keep them smushed in a heavy book forever.
not trying to be mean here, but, every single time i see an edit of stiles using the 'true evil only comes from corrupting something truly good' quote, i have to laugh. i'm sorry! i'm so sorry. but! it's like. stiles isn't truly good. like. even if you only watch before the nogistune, he's at best really mean.
i mean. can you see mason mocking liam's dreams? can you see mason, if liam kissed brett (considering mason has a crush on him s4) the day before the full moon, then proceeding to chain liam to a radiator and scratch liam's name into a dog bowl as punishment?
can you see mason, in the event his dad gets barely injured in a situation liam had no control over, then proceeding to tie him up and pelt him with lacrosse balls? and then key a seniors car, causing liam to get beaten up? can you reallly see him doing that?
not even to get into everything else stiles does ('are you still milking that?' in regards to isaac's. abuse. from his dad. that stopped pretty recently; or him stalking lydia (he knew her measurements. they'd never even spoke before. it's weird); etc).
like. stiles is a decent-ish guy. if i were him, i would've ran for the hills by the second episode. he does stick by scott. so. y'know. decent. but not 'truly good'.
Furthermore pairing that quote with Stiles completely robs the context of who said it: The Dread Doctors. I swear I could write at least a page or two of meta as to why this phrase is absolute horseshit, especially coming from them, and how they really were three supernatural pseudoscientists that proved that if you know just enough and fuck up hard enough you can cause terrible things to happen.
(The return of the early morning meta post before work.)
It’s been hard to put into words what is so odd about fandom’s reaction to Stiles and Scott and the concept of being a werewolf in Teen Wolf, but a recent comment I saw mentioned something that maybe puts things into better perspective.
The comment boiled down to the idea that being a werewolf and having powers was wasted on Scott. I don’t recall having seen comments like that before, but it makes sense if people are looking at it in that way. He’s wasting his powers, he’s not using them to their full potential and therefore he’s not a good werewolf.
The thing that clicked for me with that comment is that people are treating Scott’s werewolf powers the same way Stiles did in early Season 1: with excitement, like it’s something cool that should be used always to solve every problem, including using it to murder people (but only the Right people, of course).
That in itself isn’t too weird to me: we see the same kind of suspension of disbelief in all sorts of media, especially those involving kids or teenagers. If you give a kid a sword in order to go on a question (Percy Jackson, for example), it’s not a bad thing, it’s part of the story. You obviously wouldn’t give an actual 11-year old a weapon, because they could hurt themselves or someone else, but for the sake of the story? Hell yeah, go around waving that thing, no problem.
Teenager has superpowers that could very easily be used to do bad things if so inclined? Yeah, that sounds about right, as long as an adult figure reminds them that they need to be responsible with their newfound abilities. (Uncle Ben’s only line in any Spiderman project comes to mind, obviously.) There is a lack of weight behind the statement, though, until something bad happens and our teenage hero realizes they have a real responsibility to be good or save lives or whatever, but the real consequences of those powers are never really touched on unless it’s a specific plot beat.
Teen Wolf doesn’t do that.
From the very beginning, the bite is framed like a horror movie. A kid is attacked in the woods in the middle of the night by a monster and he’s left to walk home alone in the dark. He tells his best friend about it the next day and the very real, very terrifying attack is treated like a joke. (And in his defense, Stiles didn’t know, so I don’t actually hold it against him too much at this point.)
He starts experiencing weird changes in his body, hearing and seeing things he’s not used to, and while some are benefits – no asthma is a plus – he’s clearly shown to be unnerved by it. He snaps at Jackson and spills almost everything because he’s scared, and that’s completely reasonable. Scott doesn’t get a cool little montage set to catchy music where he gets to practice his Cool New Abilities in his room while his mom calls out from another room asking if he’s okay. He’s immediately thrust into a situation where he is being manipulated by the Alpha, thrust into a world he doesn’t fully understand, and is intimidated and threatened by the only other werewolf around.
Derek calls the bite a gift, and I partially blame that scene for fandom’s idea of it, but you wouldn’t have to change much to make Scott’s werewolf origins into a full-blown horror series. He’s been given a weapon he can’t control, that he knows he needs to control, while there’s an active threat of death and violence hanging over his head. The Sheriff gets injured peripherally to what’s happening to him, and Stiles loses it and hurts him because in his teenage brain that’s all he can do, and fandom thinks Scott’s in the wrong? He’s living a nightmare and all people can focus on is the fact that he’s not following the trope, so obviously having these powers is wasted on him.
Even in later seasons, fandom holds Scott’s reluctance to embrace his powers to the fullest against him. He doesn’t want to be a killing machine, he never wanted the powers in the first place, and even if he had been asked I don’t think Scott would have agreed. He was fine being normal, and all he’s gotten since the bite is death and violence and threats against the people he loves. Peter gave a teenager a gun and set people after him, and fandom is angry that the teenager isn’t going full John Wick on his enemies so it’s a waste.
Teen Wolf’s writing isn’t always the best, but it does a good job of flipping tropes around and exploring interesting concepts. Scott’s story isn’t a hero origin story: it’s a horror story where the victim becomes a hero in the end without losing his humanity. And fandom hates the idea of it, because fandom has been conditioned to believe a hero is only ever good if they embrace violence to the fullest.
I love this meta. One take in particular makes me feel impelled to add something: “Derek calls the bite a gift, and I partially blame that scene for fandom’s idea of it.”
This is so true and it is a primary example of fandom taking one of the show’s subversive story lines and simply ignoring it. Fandom uses “The Bite is a Gift” as an argument against Scott, implying he is ungrateful and judgemental because he reacts to the horror he went through after being bitten and chooses not to respect the werewolves which assaulted him and tried to manipulate him with it. Fandom imbues the Bite with spiritual significance because of this line, again to scold Scott for ‘profaning’ it and to heighten sympathy for Derek.
The Bite is not a Gift:
It’s not a gift for Scott, given all the horror he went through for six seasons and a movie because of it.
It’s not a gift for Stiles, given all the chances he had to get it and turned it down. “I don’t want to be like you.”
It’s not a gift for Jackson, since he acted as if he purchased it and then turned into a homicidal lizard. “You got what you wanted. Now it’s my turn to get what I want.”
It’s not a gift for Isaac, since it didn’t protect him from abuse; he simply traded one abuser for another. “Why’d you do this to us, Derek?”
It’s not a gift for Erica, since she still had seizures and she ended up dead. “Since I just turned 16 a month ago, I wouldn’t mind getting my license. I can’t do that if I’m dead, you know.”
It’s not a gift for Boyd, since he was still lonely. “I only had one friend. She’s dead, too.” And so is he.
It’s not a gift for Victoria, since Derek knowingly used it as a weapon against her. “It was your family’s little honor code that killed your mother, not me.”
It’s not a gift for Gerard. It’s a necessity for survival. “You’re a monster.” “Not yet.”
It’s not a gift for Paige; it’s an agonizing death. “Some people just aren’t made for this.”
It’s not a gift for Liam. It’s an intensification of the problems he already had. “They can’t see me like this.”
The show, again and again, points out that the power upgrade of the Bite doesn’t solve problems. The show further demonstrates that it’s not necessary to solve problems. Werewolves aren’t monsters, it argues, but they’re not superheroes either. They’re people.
The exception that proves the rule is Hayden, and it isn’t a gift then either. It’s an alternative, presented as a mutual agreement to solve a particular problem. It’s a tool that can be wielded responsibly or irresponsibly, just like mountain ash, wolf’s bane, or the Nemeton.
What makes Scott the hero of Teen Wolf isn’t the power of the Bite, but his relationships with other people and his refusal to let his trauma define him.
You see, one of the reasons I can’t help but claim racism in the Teen Wolf fandom is that there are people who legitimately claim things about the show which beggar belief. There are post like this for instance, who claims that Scott was never hurt, that it was always Stiles and Derek who got hurt, as a consequence of the action of the plot.
And I can’t imagine how someone could watch the show and make that claim. But they have made that claim, as easily disputable as it is.
Let’s take impaling! By which I mean, someone being stabbed and the weapon left in the wound to cause greater pain.
Derek Hale (2): By Peter Hale (Night School, 1x07), By Kali (Unleashed, 3x04)
Scott McCall (4): By Gerard (Ambomination, 2x04), by Void Stiles (Letharia Vulpina, 3x19), by a Berserker (Orphaned, 4x06), and by Gerard again (After Image, 6x13).
Stiles (0):
Let’s take electrocution! We’ll include stun guns for completeness.
Derek Hale (3): By Kate Argent (The Tell, 1x05), By Kate Argent again (Co-Captain through Code Breaker, 1x10 through 1x12), By the Calaveras (Anchors through More Bad Than Good, 3x13 through 3x14)
Scott McCall (7): By Barrow (Galvanize, 3x15), By Araya and Severo, but electrical torture and stun guns (The Dark Moon, 4x01), By Kira (to simulate death) (Time of Death, 4x08), By Kira (tricked by the Doctors), (A Novel Approach, 5x05), by Eichen guards (Amplification, 5x14), by Theo (Apotheosis, 5x20)
Stiles Stilinski (2): By Barrow (Galvanize, 3x15, offscreen), By Oliver (Echo House, 3x20)
Let’s take Being Shot! (Even by non-normal bullets)
Derek Hale (3): By Kate Argent (Magic Bullet, 1x04), By Chris Argent and his hunters (Frenemy, 2x06), By Kate Argent (The Divine Move, 3x24)
Scott McCall (5): By Chris Argent (Wolf Moon, 1x01), By Hunters (Co-Captain, 1x10), By Renegade Hunters (Monstrous, 4x10), By Garrett Douglas (Riders of the Storm, 6x10), By Tamora Monroe (The Wolves of War, 6x20)
Stiles Stilinski (1): By Garrett Douglas (Riders of the Storm, 6x10)
Let’s Take Poisoned!
Derek Hale (1): By Kate Argent (Magic Bullet, 1x04)
Scott McCall (7): By Victoria Argent (Raving, 2x08), By Lydia Martin/Peter Hale (Party Guessed, 2x09), By Coach/Jennifer Blake (Motel California, 3x06), By Araya Calavera (The Dark Moon, 4x01), by The Chemist (Weaponized, 4x07 – technically infected), by Theo (Lies of Omission through Status Asthmaticus, 5x09-5x10), by Tamora Monroe (The Wolves of War, 6x20)
Stiles Stilinski (4): By Lydia Martin/Peter Hale (Party Guessed, 2x09), by The Chemist (4x07 – technically infected), By Deaton (Letharia Vulpina, 3x19), By Brunski (Echo House, 3x20)
Now there are particular categories where – in the trauma Olympics you seem so interested in holding – where Scott has not been the winner.
Let’s Take Paralysis!
Derek Hale (3): By the Kanima (Abomination, 2x04), By the Kanima (Fury, 2x10), By the Kanima (Master Plan, 2x12)
Scott McCall (2): By Tracy/Kanima (Dreamcatcher, 5x03), by Theo (Apotheosis, 5x20)
Stiles Stilinski (3): By the Kanima (Fury, 2x10), by Tracy/Kanima (Dreamcatcher, 5x03), by Tracy/Kanima (Damnatio Memoriae, 5x12)
Let’s Take Abduction!
Derek Hale (2): By Kate Argent (Co-Captain, 1x10), by Kate Argent (The Divine Move, 3x24)
Scott McCall (4): By Peter Hale (Wolf Moon, 1x01), By Peter Hale (Pack Mentality, 1x03), By Victoria Argent - by truck (Raving, 2x08), By Kate Argent (A Promise to the Dead, 4x11)
Stiles Stilinski (4): By Peter Hale (Formality, 1x11), By Gerard Argent (Battlefield, 2x11), By the Nogitsune (Lunar Ellipse, 3x12), by the Ghost Riders (Memory Lost, 6x01)
Do you want me to continue? I certainly will if I need to. But I think it’s pretty obvious to claim that Scott never gets hurt, that he never suffers, that it’s only Derek Hale and Stiles Stilniski that pays for other people’s bad decisions (I can barely write that line with a straight face), requires you to simply edit out whole episodes.
Let’s give you the benefit of the doubt. Let’s pretend that you did’t lie. Ask yourself this question – how could you watch the show and say that Scott never gets hurt/ never suffers. I think I already know the answer.
@liliaeth I dug this up from the archives from September of 2018.
The idea that Stiles suffers more than Scott does is ludicrous. This isn’t even talking about emotional trauma inflicted over the show and in the past. It is the height of White Prioritization and Editing to make the claim that “Stiles suffered more than Scott.”
The difference, of course, – and why people think Scott didn’t suffer – is that the show allowed Stiles to process it by being upset, by talking about it, and by various other forms of reacting to it. Any time Scott tried to do the same, someone (usually Stiles but Derek, Malia and even Scott’s own mother) immediately jumped in and told him that he didn’t have time to suffer.
Part of the problem is that they see ‘Stiles losing his Mom as a child, and her mental abuse of him because of her illness’ as the worst trauma ever. While ignoring the trauma Scott went through because of his father.
Don’t get me wrong. Claudia’s illness and the abuse that arose from it is serious and, obviously, important to Stiles’s character. My problem has never been Stiles having trauma. It’s about them ignoring Scott’s trauma, because it’s convenient for them to do so.
Parts of the fandom are the ones turning this into Scott vs. Stiles. They’re the ones who are arguing that anything Stiles does wrong (lying to everyone, lashing out at Scott) is excused because of his trauma, while simultaneously saying that anything that Scott does wrong is not only a mistake but a disqualifying mistake. In other words, when Stiles makes a mistake, it’s because of the trauma that he has endured, and that just makes them like him more, but when Scott makes a mistake, there’s no excuse for it, and it’s the reason they hate him.
So Deaton promised Derek’s mother he would look out for Derek. Considering the last one and a half seasons, I don’t think he did a very good job of it.
How about he had early on told Scott very clearly (slow and using simple words) to get over himself and form a pack with Derek.
Because he’s his boss and mentor, Scott actually might have listened to Deaton.
Deaton knew Derek would be a terrible Alpha and Scott not being a part of a man's pack who stalked, violated, and beat him repeatedly is what we call the right thing to do.
Derek didn't deserve Scott in his pack just because he wanted it.
Deaton protected Scott like the father figure he was.
His loyalty and love was to Scott like the father figure he was.
I never get why anyone would think Scott 'should' have listened to Derek. Scott already tried that one, both in s1, and s2. In S1 Derek ended up betraying him by siding with Peter, letting Peter violate Scott. And in s2, when Scott did try to talk to Derek, giving him a chance, Derek used that as an opportunity to lure Scott out of the way, so he could send his betas in to murder Lydia, an innocent teenage girl...
Why should Deaton ever ask Scott to be obedient to someone who def at that point cannot be trusted in any way or how, esp. where doing the right thing is concerned?
Deaton cared about Scott, he protected him from Peter, and he protected him from Derek.
And he did help Derek, by telling him he should start listening to Scott.
When the Teen Wolf fanspace was getting shredded (justifiably so) for their virulent racism (specifically anti-Latinx/anti-Mexican sentiment) toward Tyler Posey and his family, they tried to pivot. They accused Posey of brownface, called homeboy European.
And when that didn't work they started using "white-passing" as a shorthand, despite knowing fuckall about the concept and the history behind it.
Because you can't be racist if the person you mercilessly harass isn't white.
All this to say that racism is and remains the bedrock of all fanspaces, but specifically, Teen Wolf. And the show itself did a lot to foster that behavior.
I could go on a five hour long rant about how Scott’s trauma is the most overlooked in the show and it still wouldn’t cover all of what he went through
