What’s muns head canon about Minfilia and Thancreds relationship? How does she feel about him and how he treats her?
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I actually think that’s complicated asiduhfaisudfh but I’ll do my best to explain my thoughts, and I really appreciate the ask because I love Minfilia and I love talking about her because she deserves all the love
I think it’s hard to define it so I’ll begin with what I don’t see it as. I definitely don’t think Minfilia ever looked to Thancred as a parental figure, he’s never been like a father to her. I’ve seen many people online talk about it like that, but to me ( someone who started playing only recently, but who has looked into 1.0 stuff ) that was never the case in any way. It is for Ryne, not Minfilia.
A more sibling-like relationship would be what makes the most sense, I think, though I hesitate to really call it that. In her short story, Minfilia notes Thancred has never been around that much ( ‟Perpetually passing by, Thancred had drifted in and out of Minfilia's life for years.” ). He’s a constant in that he’s always coming and going, not in that he’s always there for her, even if in some form he is --- which is something Thancred himself expresses regret about in game, after Minfilia is gone.
But they clearly are close, in a way, enough they get to open up about things they also don’t seem to talk about with others. In her short story, there’s a bit from her side of that ( “In a moment of weakness, Minfilia had confided in Thancred about her visions — fragments of the past she had started to glimpse a year before. No one else knew what she had seen. Or that I have heard Her voice.” ), while in ARR, right after Ifrit iirc, we see Thancred being hard on himself for his ‘failure’ precisely because he talks to Minfilia about it. And it sort of seems like there’s? An hesitance there ( she thinks about it as ‘a moment of weakness’, after all ), even if ultimately they are close enough to sometimes open up, and loss seems to be quite definitive in changing that, because the most openly emotional moments they share come after she’s taken by Hydaelyn.
The tldr, less complicated version of this is: I think they were close, in that they care for each other a lot. I think that’s more likely to take a sibling-like form, given how Thancred wished to look after her, but I also think he was too absent for it to be outright that. And I also think after she’s taken by Hydaelyn, the distance aspect is lessened when they interact because not taking someone’s presence for granted definitely has a way of forcing you to acknowledge how much you care about them, which is why they’re more upfront in caring about each other.
But also, on Minfilia’s side of how she feels about him and how he treats her, I think it’s obvious she cares for Thancred a lot, and while she’s generally caring, Thancred is clearly closer to her heart than the average. And I think it would be? Confusing for her at first, when she was younger, the fact he seemed to care but then disappear and then returned, and was always coming and going, close but not too close.
Eventually she got used to it, and eventually it likely grew to be ‘just how Thancred is’, which is not to say it’s good or bad and more just that she accepted it the way it was, also because she was aware that even if he wasn’t always there, he cared and he looked out for her. Minfilia appreciates that she had him to protect her, because ultimately she knows she could count on him. She’s capable of opening up to him enough to tell him something that was a secret, and she’s comfortable enough to provoke and make fun of him ( remember that one time she did the exposed about his past in limsa? skdnjkasdnfjkdnf ). She clearly loves him, and I think she was always aware that in his way, he cared too, even if he wasn’t always open about it.
And in the end she appreciates him and the part he had in her life. It’s not for nothing she asks him to look after Ryne and to be there for her like he was for Minfilia herself ( imo he ends up doing even more for Ryne, which is even better from her point of view!! ). Minfilia wanted the best for Ryne, and she trusted Thancred to make it possible, to help her be able to stand on her own feet and choose her own path, because once he had been there for her, even if in a different form. She’s grateful for that, for him not leaving her alone when she could well have ended up without anyone, and she cares deeply for him.
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