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Campaign 3 had to trip over its own feet and fumble at every opportunity so campaign 4 could fly.
You mean the fans who had years to project on and completely defang an NPC they gleefully described as a war criminal in the same breath as specifying he wears sweaters with mugs of soup are having trouble accepting a canon that fleshes out and explores the explicitly evil choices he willingly made and the motivations thereof? The same fans who have spent said years writing essays about unfair it is that he didn't get more story? Truly shocking. Fork found in kitchen. Etc.
New campaign new me.
Edit: was wlwitchofwhitestone
I'm late enough to the party that it's probably been said already, but a thing kpop demon hunters did really well imo was confront shameful actions through something other than a blame-shifting lens, and it didn't require Jinu to redeem himself - by which I mean, we and Rumi were shown more of him than the awful decision he made so long ago, and THAT was what Rumi said to him after he confessed. She didn't look for an excuse. She didn't struggle to accept him capable of that. She just said "that's not all you are." and to me at least, that felt so much more impactful than any of the reactions we've come to expect from stories like that. We either find out the character wasn't at fault after all, or they were but they're so desperate to make up for it that all they can do is die about it.
Jinu giving his soul to Rumi for protection and returning to the demon realm didn't read to me as a death. Souls in the demon realm are for eating, and his needs safekeeping while he figures out what's next. The story was very clear about this theme of hope and agency.
I just really appreciate the distinction in the storytelling and hope we're seeing a shift towards more messages like that - acknowledgment and acceptance of awful things people are capable of and, crucially, offering them a path out. Rumi didn't fix Jinu, even if he sees it that way. Rumi walked into the stadium and said okay, everything has gone to shit but I'm still here and I'm going to be okay. We're going to be okay. We have suffered enough, so what's next. And that "we" included jinu, but only because he took it for the inspiration it was. He didn't die to redeem himself, he believed in what she said and it gave him the strength to take a step in a direction that he fundamentally had not believed himself capable of before.
And when you add that to the way the final song acknowledges the inability to return to a time before a huge break, a song that points towards the idea that shattering isn't the end, just another place to start... I dunno. It felt as good as a Netflix family movie special could, you know?
what if i was an eldritch abomination…and you were my cosmic horror of a wife???
It's not that I think jinx literally swaps between personalities but there is something to be said about the fact that when she's got her guard up she has near preternatural speed. Fighting smeech and his goons, the way you follow her is the purple trail of the shimmer in her eyes. When Vi challenges her, she gets up under her guard in a split second, only to resort to regular human type brawling like she's holding back - whatever it is, the Jinx of it is not present.
It's the same when Isha lands on her out of the sky. She has inhuman abilities to react, but her guard was down - arguably on purpose, struggling with identity and claiming jinx was also dead.
There is a version of this character who could have gotten to Isha at the end. A version of her that could've dodged Vi's grasp, who could have prevented this. But jinx the creature was never around when Isha was, not at that point in their time together. Powder was close enough to the surface that there were flickers of blue in her eyes. Whatever function those reflexes serve was shut down in the presence of Vander, of Vi, of this place that was of peace.
Danger wasn't the trigger. Guard was. Defensiveness. The sense of imminent vulnerability and the need to cut it off.
That version of her wasn't present in the commune because she was healing. They all were. But now that this has happened, it's very likely that jinx - full blast - will be all that's left for a very long time. She will have it reinforced: there is no happiness for her, no softness is allowed. Jinx is safety to be embraced.
It remains to be seen whether there will still be time for Vi or any of them to present her with another option, even if it's just the option to heal later. But given the preview of her from the final arc, if that is her from this timeline, I'm not sure how it will go at all.
Oh. It's not just a metaphor. Viktor isn't hallucinating Sky as some kind of moral guide. What he had to offer wasn't enough. The hexcore likes him, is bonded to him at least, for better or worse. It took Sky as payment. Used her as a resource in his goal. She's literally a part of him.
Also as pissed off as Vi (rightfully) got about the way Jayce was willing to stop every effort they were making after he killed a kid, as good as her point was, there is the fundamental fact that she watched one person kill a kid and go nearly catatonic. She watched him care in real time. Someone she didn't know, let alone trust.
And just days later she's back in the undercity with one of the only people she does trust, and she's seeing exactly what Ekko always knew. Words - ideals, sentiments - without experience are theoretical. Conflict comes once to Caitlyn's door, and all of that kindness and righteous rage turns. Immediately. Jayce may be idealistic and privileged like the rest of them, but he has his moral limits despite his limited direct experience with this specific violence. He has known struggle. If they found a way to work together, he would be infinitely more reliable.
God. GOD. Watching Caitlyn positively rage against her mother in defense of Zaun. Her naivety was annoying on the first season but it's fascinating with our current context. Here she is calling out the council, the government, all of it, but it's just words. Baby's first social justice
And her mother? She speaks of Vi and of the undercity as though even mentioning them might stain her nice coat. But she is directly responsible for the ability of everyone down there to breathe. She does not need to like these people to believe in basic humanity. To be clear, as far as we know she is no champion of Zaun.
But her actions despite her disdain speak worlds higher than Caitlyn's new discovery of the very concept of injustice, followed by the single-mined desire to enact more of it the first time its consequences affect her personally.
Absolutely losing my shit at this photo I took
Is that...?
No! It's somehow even funnier.
(unfortunately we were over the lakeshore trail and though I looked around for the fish, I can only assume he was soon run over by a bicycle. RIP little guy)
Did anyone else -
Wow Imogen has TWO dead women wrapped around her finger now.
I dunno man sometimes all the art and posts about queer sex as an act of rebellion against capitalism and heteronormativity start to feel overwhelmingly exclusionary or like it's the only way to "prove" you're queer. I'm aware the majority of the world is allo (believe me) and I've exerted a lot of mental energy reminding myself that I'm not contributing to the systems in place by being ace (and am in fact also subverting them) but it still starts to drag after a while.
Queer sex can absolutely be radical, or holy, or special and different between each person participating. There are as many meanings to it as there are people in the world. But queer sex is not inherently any of those things. It's another thing people can do for fun and for pleasure. The people who aren't doing it - not even just aces, because there are so many reasons people might not and a lot of them get into the intersection of disability, trauma and much more - are not doing less than allos for the community. The queerness is the radical bit. Existing is enough to make the systems in place afraid of and violent towards us. Sex is just something else a lot of us do that's frowned upon by the powers that be. So is not having sex. Because it's not the action it's the people.
I think the reason the Raven Queen doesn't have an issue with Laudna despite being undead (and perhaps hollow ones as a concept) is that Matilda passed on exactly as she was supposed to. Hollow one lore says it - the spirit has passed on. This is a shard left that couldn't figure out how to die.
Nobody cheated death. The correct number of spirits have crossed over. Laudna grows from Matilda who is gone in the same way molly grew from lucien. If anything, I would argue that Laudna has her own soul.
Also as much as I enjoyed Talks and as fun as 4 sided dive is, I am very weary of the phenomenon where extra info is not considered a fun perk but necessary reading lest you ponder something a creator touched on somewhere in the several hours IN ADDITION to the hundreds you've put in to the actual show. I like having insights into the characters and stories. It's cool. I don't like the feeling that nobody can talk about the themes, ideas, and choices sticking out to them personally without a bunch of fans clamoring in the notes with "well actually, in hour 19 of the extended show that goes along with these 400 hours, they said..."
I believe in death of the author, AND I enjoy hearing the extra bits that go into a good story. They are not mutually exclusive ideas.
Hey so can we stop with the addiction metaphors now that Delilah's been bejeweled. It was never a great metaphor and followed more along the lines of an abusive relationship, and now Laudna is in control of her life. Like. Addicts don't recover by continuing to access the thing that made them feel powerful, because again. Addiction was an incomplete and inept metaphor for that whole deal. The cocaine does not throw itself at your face and taunt your every waking thought, because it is in fact an inanimate object. Manipulators do that. People do. And when people do it, that's abuse.
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