The Final Frontier

ALGIZ EHWAZ ANZUS DAGAZ PERTHRO JERA B-BERKANO

[worldboundary]

hi! i saw your post from a while ago on the enchantments and the phrases, and holy crap it’s so cool! it got me really inspired to do more with the enchanting ideas i have for my world (that may be used in fics), and so i just wanted to pop in here and ask: is it ok if i use some of the phrases or the base ideas in any writing i may do? i’ll give any and all credit, plus i’ll definitely be changing stuff to fit into everything a bit better. and it’s also totally fine if this is a no no, that’s why i asked after all! have a good day, and thank you!

Yeah sure go ahead! I’d love to see what other people come up with

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

tell that to me and to my many friends who have or had joe as a parasocial father figure

well the first point there is entirely personal? that's your own take - I actually think there isnt enough joe hills fan content out there!

the second point is not the fault of joe himself nor does it have any bearing on his status as a sexyman, that's just the fanon concept of joe hills being kinda flat and not true to who he is as a person and as a creator. like . yeah "who do you think has the most potential of the hermits to be a sexyman" joe hills has potential because he turns into the beetlejhost when people pay him! like, come on it's right there

like. buddy you're saying this to the guy that runs @joe-hills-said. im a joe expert. there is a group of dedicated joe hills enthusiasts on tumblr, both past and present, and they make joe hills content, but the greater hermitblr community doesnt focus on or give the same spotlight to joe hills the way they do to boatem/creators with a million or more subscribers. if anything hes one of the more obscure hermits because nobody knows what to do with him

joe hills is a weird little man and he was my emotional support streamer and is an integral part of my friend's web of strange internet dads that also includes jschlatt and sips yogscast and joe is not treated equivalently in fandom to grian and mumbo at all (that's not negative btw - I am just stating a fact that grian and mumbo are approached differently by hermitblr.)

[worldboundary]

Yes but lest we forget the definition of a tumblr sexy man is based on the fandom interpretation, the hallmark of a tumblr sexyman is often the wildly different portrayal between canon and fanon. We both agree he is a tumblr sexy man. That is not up for debate, it is obvious to both of us.

I am not saying that he is treated quite the same as grian or mumbo (who are more woobified by the fandom rather than make more cryptic/eccentric). In terms of oversaturated content, I am referring to the inclination of writing or aus that often feature joe as a major character or at least one with seemingly inexplicable credence and authority. Where in reality as you so stated he is more goofy and light hearted. I see this constrast in characterization as a negative thing. yes I can admit I see the appeal in such omniscience but there’s a point where fic after fic of seeing Joe swoop in and fix things and knowing exactly what to do it starts to get bland. Like, don’t you get tired?

I am not sure what circles you hang around, but I personally see a lot of joe content . let me be the first to admit that may be just because I don’t particularly care for his style of video, I’ve tried getting into it but it’s never been able to stick. But it is evident to me that even amongst the “underrated” hermits he gets a lot more attention than others like XB, Hypno, Jevin, and dare I even say Cub or ZIT. He might not be the most popular but he certainly recieves a lot more attention on tumblr than you would expect. So yes, I am without a doubt biased in this matter. But so are you.

In regards to your self-stated credentials for discussing Joe. The fact that you dedicate so much of your limited time on this earth to keeping tabs on this man is testament to your own myopic paradigm elevating and aggrandizing him. I mean of course why would someone who labels themself as a joe expert have even a slightest negative view of him. If you were a research paper the “conflicting interest” section would be a mile long.

But hey. That’s just me.

[killlyourproducer]

this is a post about sexymen. a post about block game minecraft motherfucker sexymen.

[worldboundary]

My guy… my dude… this argument was staged for the most part…. I specifically talked to this person on discord to make sure I wasn’t crossing a line….

[worldboundary]

Also where did I say that joe sucked. I said I didn’t vibe with his content, and that the fandom likes to mischaracterize him, but I didn’t say that his content is bad. Just that it’s not something I look for.

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

tell that to me and to my many friends who have or had joe as a parasocial father figure

well the first point there is entirely personal? that's your own take - I actually think there isnt enough joe hills fan content out there!

the second point is not the fault of joe himself nor does it have any bearing on his status as a sexyman, that's just the fanon concept of joe hills being kinda flat and not true to who he is as a person and as a creator. like . yeah "who do you think has the most potential of the hermits to be a sexyman" joe hills has potential because he turns into the beetlejhost when people pay him! like, come on it's right there

like. buddy you're saying this to the guy that runs @joe-hills-said. im a joe expert. there is a group of dedicated joe hills enthusiasts on tumblr, both past and present, and they make joe hills content, but the greater hermitblr community doesnt focus on or give the same spotlight to joe hills the way they do to boatem/creators with a million or more subscribers. if anything hes one of the more obscure hermits because nobody knows what to do with him

joe hills is a weird little man and he was my emotional support streamer and is an integral part of my friend's web of strange internet dads that also includes jschlatt and sips yogscast and joe is not treated equivalently in fandom to grian and mumbo at all (that's not negative btw - I am just stating a fact that grian and mumbo are approached differently by hermitblr.)

[worldboundary]

Yes but lest we forget the definition of a tumblr sexy man is based on the fandom interpretation, the hallmark of a tumblr sexyman is often the wildly different portrayal between canon and fanon. We both agree he is a tumblr sexy man. That is not up for debate, it is obvious to both of us.

I am not saying that he is treated quite the same as grian or mumbo (who are more woobified by the fandom rather than make more cryptic/eccentric). In terms of oversaturated content, I am referring to the inclination of writing or aus that often feature joe as a major character or at least one with seemingly inexplicable credence and authority. Where in reality as you so stated he is more goofy and light hearted. I see this constrast in characterization as a negative thing. yes I can admit I see the appeal in such omniscience but there’s a point where fic after fic of seeing Joe swoop in and fix things and knowing exactly what to do it starts to get bland. Like, don’t you get tired?

I am not sure what circles you hang around, but I personally see a lot of joe content . let me be the first to admit that may be just because I don’t particularly care for his style of video, I’ve tried getting into it but it’s never been able to stick. But it is evident to me that even amongst the “underrated” hermits he gets a lot more attention than others like XB, Hypno, Jevin, and dare I even say Cub or ZIT. He might not be the most popular but he certainly recieves a lot more attention on tumblr than you would expect. So yes, I am without a doubt biased in this matter. But so are you.

In regards to your self-stated credentials for discussing Joe. The fact that you dedicate so much of your limited time on this earth to keeping tabs on this man is testament to your own myopic paradigm elevating and aggrandizing him. I mean of course why would someone who labels themself as a joe expert have even a slightest negative view of him. If you were a research paper the “conflicting interest” section would be a mile long.

But hey. That’s just me.

[killlyourproducer]

this is a post about sexymen. a post about block game minecraft motherfucker sexymen.

[worldboundary]

My guy… my dude… this argument was staged for the most part…. I specifically talked to this person on discord to make sure I wasn’t crossing a line….

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

tell that to me and to my many friends who have or had joe as a parasocial father figure

well the first point there is entirely personal? that's your own take - I actually think there isnt enough joe hills fan content out there!

the second point is not the fault of joe himself nor does it have any bearing on his status as a sexyman, that's just the fanon concept of joe hills being kinda flat and not true to who he is as a person and as a creator. like . yeah "who do you think has the most potential of the hermits to be a sexyman" joe hills has potential because he turns into the beetlejhost when people pay him! like, come on it's right there

like. buddy you're saying this to the guy that runs @joe-hills-said. im a joe expert. there is a group of dedicated joe hills enthusiasts on tumblr, both past and present, and they make joe hills content, but the greater hermitblr community doesnt focus on or give the same spotlight to joe hills the way they do to boatem/creators with a million or more subscribers. if anything hes one of the more obscure hermits because nobody knows what to do with him

joe hills is a weird little man and he was my emotional support streamer and is an integral part of my friend's web of strange internet dads that also includes jschlatt and sips yogscast and joe is not treated equivalently in fandom to grian and mumbo at all (that's not negative btw - I am just stating a fact that grian and mumbo are approached differently by hermitblr.)

[worldboundary]

Yes but lest we forget the definition of a tumblr sexy man is based on the fandom interpretation, the hallmark of a tumblr sexyman is often the wildly different portrayal between canon and fanon. We both agree he is a tumblr sexy man. That is not up for debate, it is obvious to both of us.

I am not saying that he is treated quite the same as grian or mumbo (who are more woobified by the fandom rather than make more cryptic/eccentric). In terms of oversaturated content, I am referring to the inclination of writing or aus that often feature joe as a major character or at least one with seemingly inexplicable credence and authority. Where in reality as you so stated he is more goofy and light hearted. I see this constrast in characterization as a negative thing. yes I can admit I see the appeal in such omniscience but there’s a point where fic after fic of seeing Joe swoop in and fix things and knowing exactly what to do it starts to get bland. Like, don’t you get tired?

I am not sure what circles you hang around, but I personally see a lot of joe content . let me be the first to admit that may be just because I don’t particularly care for his style of video, I’ve tried getting into it but it’s never been able to stick. But it is evident to me that even amongst the “underrated” hermits he gets a lot more attention than others like XB, Hypno, Jevin, and dare I even say Cub or ZIT. He might not be the most popular but he certainly recieves a lot more attention on tumblr than you would expect. So yes, I am without a doubt biased in this matter. But so are you.

In regards to your self-stated credentials for discussing Joe. The fact that you dedicate so much of your limited time on this earth to keeping tabs on this man is testament to your own myopic paradigm elevating and aggrandizing him. I mean of course why would someone who labels themself as a joe expert have even a slightest negative view of him. If you were a research paper the “conflicting interest” section would be a mile long.

But hey. That’s just me.

[aroaceacacia]

what do you want me to say? you just reiterated your points and used big words and then tried to say i have a conflict of interest. what is your end goal here

[worldboundary]

I reiterate my points to clarify exactly what I mean when I say that his content is oversaturated, and because you have yet to successfully refute my points. You don’t acknowledge the issues with the common interpretation of joe I brought up, and dismiss my point of seeing a lot of his content as “oh well that’s just you.” And instead choose to talk about why Joe should be more popular in your eyes. And the thing is we agree on most of the points we bring up. We agree that under the definition most people use, he would be classified as a tumblr sexyman. We agree that the “distant cryptid” characterization seen in the fandom is inaccurate. I personally see no point in further debate of the matter. Both of us agree on the most part and I am not trying to get you to admit defeat or anything.

This is all lighthearted and joking by the way I love ur content lmaooooooooo

Just putting that out there so it doesn’t seem like I’m trying to get on r/iamverysmart

Anyways watch Biffa (ollies out)

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

tell that to me and to my many friends who have or had joe as a parasocial father figure

well the first point there is entirely personal? that’s your own take - I actually think there isnt enough joe hills fan content out there!

the second point is not the fault of joe himself nor does it have any bearing on his status as a sexyman, that’s just the fanon concept of joe hills being kinda flat and not true to who he is as a person and as a creator. like . yeah “who do you think has the most potential of the hermits to be a sexyman” joe hills has potential because he turns into the beetlejhost when people pay him! like, come on it’s right there

like. buddy you’re saying this to the guy that runs @joe-hills-said. im a joe expert. there is a group of dedicated joe hills enthusiasts on tumblr, both past and present, and they make joe hills content, but the greater hermitblr community doesnt focus on or give the same spotlight to joe hills the way they do to boatem/creators with a million or more subscribers. if anything hes one of the more obscure hermits because nobody knows what to do with him

joe hills is a weird little man and he was my emotional support streamer and is an integral part of my friend’s web of strange internet dads that also includes jschlatt and sips yogscast and joe is not treated equivalently in fandom to grian and mumbo at all (that’s not negative btw - I am just stating a fact that grian and mumbo are approached differently by hermitblr.)

[worldboundary]

Yes but lest we forget the definition of a tumblr sexy man is based on the fandom interpretation, the hallmark of a tumblr sexyman is often the wildly different portrayal between canon and fanon. We both agree he is a tumblr sexy man. That is not up for debate, it is obvious to both of us.

I am not saying that he is treated quite the same as grian or mumbo (who are more woobified by the fandom rather than make more cryptic/eccentric). In terms of oversaturated content, I am referring to the inclination of writing or aus that often feature joe as a major character or at least one with seemingly inexplicable credence and authority. Where in reality as you so stated he is more goofy and light hearted. I see this constrast in characterization as a negative thing. yes I can admit I see the appeal in such omniscience but there’s a point where fic after fic of seeing Joe swoop in and fix things and knowing exactly what to do it starts to get bland. Like, don’t you get tired?

I am not sure what circles you hang around, but I personally see a lot of joe content . let me be the first to admit that may be just because I don’t particularly care for his style of video, I’ve tried getting into it but it’s never been able to stick. But it is evident to me that even amongst the “underrated” hermits he gets a lot more attention than others like XB, Hypno, Jevin, and dare I even say Cub or ZIT. He might not be the most popular but he certainly recieves a lot more attention on tumblr than you would expect. So yes, I am without a doubt biased in this matter. But so are you.

In regards to your self-stated credentials for discussing Joe. The fact that you dedicate so much of your limited time on this earth to keeping tabs on this man is testament to your own myopic paradigm elevating and aggrandizing him. I mean of course why would someone who labels themself as a joe expert have even a slightest negative view of him. If you were a research paper the “conflicting interest” section would be a mile long.

But hey. That’s just me.

[biinaberry]

Calm down bro it’s minecraft sexy men, it’s not that deep. You’re on tumblr not twitter, this looks sad

[worldboundary]

Bro this is a lighthearted argument, I even asked them over discord if they were ok with it...... I don’t think either of us are trying to be mean about it

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

tell that to me and to my many friends who have or had joe as a parasocial father figure

well the first point there is entirely personal? that's your own take - I actually think there isnt enough joe hills fan content out there!

the second point is not the fault of joe himself nor does it have any bearing on his status as a sexyman, that's just the fanon concept of joe hills being kinda flat and not true to who he is as a person and as a creator. like . yeah "who do you think has the most potential of the hermits to be a sexyman" joe hills has potential because he turns into the beetlejhost when people pay him! like, come on it's right there

like. buddy you're saying this to the guy that runs @joe-hills-said. im a joe expert. there is a group of dedicated joe hills enthusiasts on tumblr, both past and present, and they make joe hills content, but the greater hermitblr community doesnt focus on or give the same spotlight to joe hills the way they do to boatem/creators with a million or more subscribers. if anything hes one of the more obscure hermits because nobody knows what to do with him

joe hills is a weird little man and he was my emotional support streamer and is an integral part of my friend's web of strange internet dads that also includes jschlatt and sips yogscast and joe is not treated equivalently in fandom to grian and mumbo at all (that's not negative btw - I am just stating a fact that grian and mumbo are approached differently by hermitblr.)

[worldboundary]

Yes but lest we forget the definition of a tumblr sexy man is based on the fandom interpretation, the hallmark of a tumblr sexyman is often the wildly different portrayal between canon and fanon. We both agree he is a tumblr sexy man. That is not up for debate, it is obvious to both of us.

I am not saying that he is treated quite the same as grian or mumbo (who are more woobified by the fandom rather than make more cryptic/eccentric). In terms of oversaturated content, I am referring to the inclination of writing or aus that often feature joe as a major character or at least one with seemingly inexplicable credence and authority. Where in reality as you so stated he is more goofy and light hearted. I see this constrast in characterization as a negative thing. yes I can admit I see the appeal in such omniscience but there’s a point where fic after fic of seeing Joe swoop in and fix things and knowing exactly what to do it starts to get bland. Like, don’t you get tired?

I am not sure what circles you hang around, but I personally see a lot of joe content . let me be the first to admit that may be just because I don’t particularly care for his style of video, I’ve tried getting into it but it’s never been able to stick. But it is evident to me that even amongst the “underrated” hermits he gets a lot more attention than others like XB, Hypno, Jevin, and dare I even say Cub or ZIT. He might not be the most popular but he certainly recieves a lot more attention on tumblr than you would expect. So yes, I am without a doubt biased in this matter. But so are you.

In regards to your self-stated credentials for discussing Joe. The fact that you dedicate so much of your limited time on this earth to keeping tabs on this man is testament to your own myopic paradigm elevating and aggrandizing him. I mean of course why would someone who labels themself as a joe expert have even a slightest negative view of him. If you were a research paper the “conflicting interest” section would be a mile long.

But hey. That’s just me.

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

man is literally a father but okay

[worldboundary]

Ok yeah but he doesn’t have dad energy, his vibes are more like that overenthusiastic English teacher that fails to keep the class’s attention

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Also while I’m at it. Joe does not have dad energy. You all need better taste in father figures.

[aroaceacacia]

Out of all the hermits, excluding Scar and Doc, which one do you think has the most potential to be a tumblr sexyman

joe hills, rendog, zedaph /srs

[worldboundary]

Ok seeing this go around and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in

Tumblr sexy man in a negative connotation (Oversaturated content, presented in an aggrandizing manner, given much larger presence where they didn’t have it originally)

-Grian

-Joe

-Mumbo

Tumblr sexyman in a neutral (positive?) connotation

(Well-dressed, plays an antagonistic role, slightly unhinged, morally grey)

-Doc

-Scar

-Ren

-Biffa

I will accept some constructive criticism, but just keep in mind that you’re still wrong. /j

[worldboundary]

Apollyon my beloved....

Tried my hand at an Apollyon design!

The key around his neck is the key to mega Satan, because biblically he was given the key to the abyss! His clothes have a Greek key motif as well, further pushing the key theme and also because Apollyon is a Greek name, he is also called Abaddon.

I stylized his wings after locust wings, and theyre meant to be more incorporeal/aethereal, so they don’t function as physical wings, they’re more of a projection/hologram in a way?

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[ladycatland]

Techno: "ok hold on tha-"

Tommy: "YOU OVERCOMPENSATING FOR SOMETHING? YOU LIKE WASTING HOURS OF YOUR LIFE OVER CUTE LITTLE DETAILS THAT MAKE NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE SO YOU CAN LOOK COOLER? WANT TO LOOK ALL COMPOSED AND COOL AND LIKE THE PERFECT PICTURE YOU'RE SHOWING TO THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY YOU BUT WE BOTH KNOW YOUVE SLEPT A TOTAL OF 10 HOURS SINCE YOU JOINED THIS SERVER. YOU WANNA LOOK ALL IMPOSING SO PEOPLE FEAR AND RESPECT YOU BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO PUT ANY EFFORT INTO THE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS ITD TAKE TO MAKE THEM RESPECT YOU NATURALLY. MAYBE INSTEAD OF WASTING SLEEP TO MAKE SOME DUMB ENCHANTMENT LOOK NATURAL TO KEEP UP YOUR APPEARANCE YOU SHOULD GET SOME SHUTEYE TO GET RID OF THOSE EYEBAGS. BEING WELL RESTED MIGHT MAKE YOU LESS OF A BITCH TOO. BTW I FUCKING ENCHANTED A ENTIRE IRON SET YESTERDAY AND STILL GOT 8 HOURS OF SLEEP FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THAT I COULD DO SO EASILY. SUCK IT"

Tubbo,in the background, muttering softly: "what the fuck..."

[comradecalcium]

Okay this is amazing, and I love this, but lapis lazuli irl is a gem, not a dye

So, you couldn’t really paint it on a set of armor. How about this instead:

Technoblade, forever the mythology nerd, and Philza who just likes the aesthetic, etching the enchantments into the trims of their armor and the blades and hilts of their swords using entire kits of chisels and picks and then carefully placing the lapis shards into the divots.

Tommy, with the equipment he has at hand, scratching the words smack dab in the middle of his chest plate and wherever they’ll fit on his tools, then sprinkling the lapis dust that he crushed using his helmet and axe handle as a mortar and pestle into the scrapes like he’s spicing a turkey.

Ranboo, struggling to etch the words onto certain places of his armor because he’s doing it with an ice pick he found, and filling the divots with the finest lapis dust you’ve ever seen because he’s rich.

Foolish somehow making the enchantment table language look like hieroglyphs.

Puffy giving her enchantments a pirate accent.

𝘚𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴.

[worldboundary]

Yo you’re right that lapis lazuli is a stone but it’s often ground up into a powder to make pigment. If you ever seen ultramarine pigment/paint, traditionally that’s made with lapis lazuli. Typically you add resin and oil to it to turn it into a full fledged paint

[tenfluenza]

thinking about bane of arthropods and this enchantment headcanon

[worldboundary]

This phrase lives rent free in my head now and I hate you for it

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[wilburian-deactivated20221116]

all of this is canon i have decided

[netheritenugget]

I'm still curious about the curse enchantments, since putting a curse on an item differs from normal enchantments. Like you can't grindstone Curse of Binding off, and it's impossible to get via enchanting table, but you can apply it via books and items you get from fishing them up, or looting them from chests, and the curse breaks when the item is literally broken. I have questions (mostly for my AU).

[errorx403]

I'd say curses are more than just engravings, the magic of them seeps into the item itself and the engraving can seem as if it goes through the item, while never appearing on the other side

[netheritenugget]

Yeah, I talked to someone in my dms about this earlier, curses are definitely engravings or etchings, those are hard to polish/remove from metal. I'd imagine regular enchantments are like the intaglio process of printmaking, where the markings are scratched shallowly into the metal, and are more easily removed with a grindstone. Then a lapis ink is rubbed into the linework, and left to dry.

[worldboundary]

Ooh so that gets me thinking like. What if curses require metal to be inlaid directly into the item, think like Viking era Ulfberht swords

Whereas regular enchantments, as previously said are shallow cuts into the material. Maybe closer to the Sword of GouJian. This might be why applying curses doesn’t use lapis

BUT ALSO what if the original records for these enchantments are fragmented due to time or historical revisionism or other factors, and as such lower levels of enchantments are incomplete versions of the full engraving like for example

This might be why you buy books from librarians ,as they might have been akin to monks in monasteries who copied and recorded ancient texts. Or why the player needs several bookshelves to access higher level enchants.

I actually went ape shit and tried making phrases for each enchant along with the fragmentation patterns for different levels of each enchantment. I’d love to expand on this more, as I don’t know much about linguistics but I think this could be a really cool concept.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4pI5jbJ67PFn-kah3ihEqJC_6DdERC8qD4WJ4htxEE/edit

Mmmmm enchantments

Level I Level II Level III Level IV Level V(Curses are inlaid into the item itself, think like Ulfberht swords as an example) Example: May

[sleepeys]

holy fucking shit

[worldboundary]

AND WHILE IM AT IT BC IM CRACKED RN

Enchantment incompatibilities is intrinsic to the words used for the engravings, each enchantment has a “core” word or phrase central to its power. I.e “blood” for looting. But some pairs of core words are incompatable or contradictory on the same item (likely for some arcane supernatural reason). For example, “nature” and “wealth” are the core words for Silk Touch and Fortune and thus placing those 2 words on an item will nullify the effects of both.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I think some people would try adding certain things to the ground lapis pigment to enhance effects. Historically, beeswax and pine rosin are used in the making of ultramarine pigment from lapis lazuli (which wouldn’t be unreasonable to use in the Minecraft universe), and some cultures put animal bones in with the raw iron when making weapons in the belief that some of the essence of the animal would be conferred to the weapon. This could likely also be a thing for Minecraft enchanting, as some people might swear by adding redstone or glow stone or bonemeal to their lapis before they grind it up and apply it.

[sleepeys]

YOU ARE POPPING OFF MY FRIEND

tbf i'd like to think that adding things to the lapis doesn't actually add anything extra to its power or luck, but the belief became so widespread that families or whole villages will die on the hill that "yes, adding the substance of newborn slime babies to the lapis does in fact make the sword swing faster. source? dude trust me"

and there are several historians and alchemists who keep saying no. no stop adding things to your lapis. it doesn't do anything, we checked. and yet no one listens smh

[worldboundary]

Ye ye! Like except for binders that help the pigment adhere it might just largely be superstition. But oh man I think it could open the door to like adding more to people’s enchanting styles... like tubbo using beeswax as the main additive for his. Furthermore maybe some cultures see it as a bit of a ritualistic practice? I.e techno maybe seeing it as meditative? With a whole bunch of practices and rules about enchanting form/etiquette.

This could also tie into the intrinsic Xp cost of book combining, as maybe some practices mandate the addition of certain enchantments before others, or a specific stroke order for the required glyphs... maybe a sort of shorthand for certain commonly used enchantments appears? Like eff5 unbreaking 3

[sleepeys]

yeah that's what i'm thinking! and i personally like to hc that there's lots of different languages the enchantments can come in, which adds to the difficulty and the randomness of enchanting. its why the player can only pick out a few words and has to guess everything else. things like order of adjectives, spelling, conjugation, even entirely new glyphs can play a factor in whether or not your armour can actually withstand a creeper blast or not (and i kinda went on a tangent about that here oops)

[cannibalcaprine2]

what if a “god” [op] were to use their “powers” [commands] to make a special enchanted item, like a mending infinity power 27 bow? would the glyphs/words like, hurt the blind human eye due to them being incapable of being created by a mere mortal?

[worldboundary]

If I remember correctly, you can actually get mending infinity books from fishing. So this is a very real possibility. Might be cool to explore the consequences. I.e maybe an ancient enchanting technique lost to time?

[cannibalcaprine2]

if you can get the book, only one enchant would be applied, so maybe the ancient enchanting techniques were made for specific weapons, like an endstone infused bow, or a dragons flame blade

[worldboundary]

Oh I just looked up and apparently you can get a bow with both enchants actually through fishing! It’s a very rare occurrence though. The odds are like 1 in 3000 or something

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[wilburian-deactivated20221116]

all of this is canon i have decided

[netheritenugget]

I'm still curious about the curse enchantments, since putting a curse on an item differs from normal enchantments. Like you can't grindstone Curse of Binding off, and it's impossible to get via enchanting table, but you can apply it via books and items you get from fishing them up, or looting them from chests, and the curse breaks when the item is literally broken. I have questions (mostly for my AU).

[errorx403]

I'd say curses are more than just engravings, the magic of them seeps into the item itself and the engraving can seem as if it goes through the item, while never appearing on the other side

[netheritenugget]

Yeah, I talked to someone in my dms about this earlier, curses are definitely engravings or etchings, those are hard to polish/remove from metal. I'd imagine regular enchantments are like the intaglio process of printmaking, where the markings are scratched shallowly into the metal, and are more easily removed with a grindstone. Then a lapis ink is rubbed into the linework, and left to dry.

[worldboundary]

Ooh so that gets me thinking like. What if curses require metal to be inlaid directly into the item, think like Viking era Ulfberht swords

Whereas regular enchantments, as previously said are shallow cuts into the material. Maybe closer to the Sword of GouJian. This might be why applying curses doesn’t use lapis

BUT ALSO what if the original records for these enchantments are fragmented due to time or historical revisionism or other factors, and as such lower levels of enchantments are incomplete versions of the full engraving like for example

This might be why you buy books from librarians ,as they might have been akin to monks in monasteries who copied and recorded ancient texts. Or why the player needs several bookshelves to access higher level enchants.

I actually went ape shit and tried making phrases for each enchant along with the fragmentation patterns for different levels of each enchantment. I’d love to expand on this more, as I don’t know much about linguistics but I think this could be a really cool concept.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4pI5jbJ67PFn-kah3ihEqJC_6DdERC8qD4WJ4htxEE/edit

Mmmmm enchantments

Level I Level II Level III Level IV Level V(Curses are inlaid into the item itself, think like Ulfberht swords as an example) Example: May

[sleepeys]

holy fucking shit

[worldboundary]

AND WHILE IM AT IT BC IM CRACKED RN

Enchantment incompatibilities is intrinsic to the words used for the engravings, each enchantment has a “core” word or phrase central to its power. I.e “blood” for looting. But some pairs of core words are incompatable or contradictory on the same item (likely for some arcane supernatural reason). For example, “nature” and “wealth” are the core words for Silk Touch and Fortune and thus placing those 2 words on an item will nullify the effects of both.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I think some people would try adding certain things to the ground lapis pigment to enhance effects. Historically, beeswax and pine rosin are used in the making of ultramarine pigment from lapis lazuli (which wouldn’t be unreasonable to use in the Minecraft universe), and some cultures put animal bones in with the raw iron when making weapons in the belief that some of the essence of the animal would be conferred to the weapon. This could likely also be a thing for Minecraft enchanting, as some people might swear by adding redstone or glow stone or bonemeal to their lapis before they grind it up and apply it.

[sleepeys]

YOU ARE POPPING OFF MY FRIEND

tbf i'd like to think that adding things to the lapis doesn't actually add anything extra to its power or luck, but the belief became so widespread that families or whole villages will die on the hill that "yes, adding the substance of newborn slime babies to the lapis does in fact make the sword swing faster. source? dude trust me"

and there are several historians and alchemists who keep saying no. no stop adding things to your lapis. it doesn't do anything, we checked. and yet no one listens smh

[worldboundary]

Ye ye! Like except for binders that help the pigment adhere it might just largely be superstition. But oh man I think it could open the door to like adding more to people’s enchanting styles... like tubbo using beeswax as the main additive for his. Furthermore maybe some cultures see it as a bit of a ritualistic practice? I.e techno maybe seeing it as meditative? With a whole bunch of practices and rules about enchanting form/etiquette.

This could also tie into the intrinsic Xp cost of book combining, as maybe some practices mandate the addition of certain enchantments before others, or a specific stroke order for the required glyphs... maybe a sort of shorthand for certain commonly used enchantments appears? Like eff5 unbreaking 3

[sleepeys]

yeah that's what i'm thinking! and i personally like to hc that there's lots of different languages the enchantments can come in, which adds to the difficulty and the randomness of enchanting. its why the player can only pick out a few words and has to guess everything else. things like order of adjectives, spelling, conjugation, even entirely new glyphs can play a factor in whether or not your armour can actually withstand a creeper blast or not (and i kinda went on a tangent about that here oops)

[cannibalcaprine2]

what if a “god” [op] were to use their “powers” [commands] to make a special enchanted item, like a mending infinity power 27 bow? would the glyphs/words like, hurt the blind human eye due to them being incapable of being created by a mere mortal?

[worldboundary]

If I remember correctly, you can actually get mending infinity books from fishing. So this is a very real possibility. Might be cool to explore the consequences. I.e maybe an ancient enchanting technique lost to time?

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[wilburian-deactivated20221116]

all of this is canon i have decided

[netheritenugget]

I'm still curious about the curse enchantments, since putting a curse on an item differs from normal enchantments. Like you can't grindstone Curse of Binding off, and it's impossible to get via enchanting table, but you can apply it via books and items you get from fishing them up, or looting them from chests, and the curse breaks when the item is literally broken. I have questions (mostly for my AU).

[errorx403]

I'd say curses are more than just engravings, the magic of them seeps into the item itself and the engraving can seem as if it goes through the item, while never appearing on the other side

[netheritenugget]

Yeah, I talked to someone in my dms about this earlier, curses are definitely engravings or etchings, those are hard to polish/remove from metal. I'd imagine regular enchantments are like the intaglio process of printmaking, where the markings are scratched shallowly into the metal, and are more easily removed with a grindstone. Then a lapis ink is rubbed into the linework, and left to dry.

[worldboundary]

Ooh so that gets me thinking like. What if curses require metal to be inlaid directly into the item, think like Viking era Ulfberht swords

Whereas regular enchantments, as previously said are shallow cuts into the material. Maybe closer to the Sword of GouJian. This might be why applying curses doesn’t use lapis

BUT ALSO what if the original records for these enchantments are fragmented due to time or historical revisionism or other factors, and as such lower levels of enchantments are incomplete versions of the full engraving like for example

This might be why you buy books from librarians ,as they might have been akin to monks in monasteries who copied and recorded ancient texts. Or why the player needs several bookshelves to access higher level enchants.

I actually went ape shit and tried making phrases for each enchant along with the fragmentation patterns for different levels of each enchantment. I’d love to expand on this more, as I don’t know much about linguistics but I think this could be a really cool concept.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4pI5jbJ67PFn-kah3ihEqJC_6DdERC8qD4WJ4htxEE/edit

Mmmmm enchantments

Level I Level II Level III Level IV Level V(Curses are inlaid into the item itself, think like Ulfberht swords as an example) Example: May

[sleepeys]

holy fucking shit

[worldboundary]

AND WHILE IM AT IT BC IM CRACKED RN

Enchantment incompatibilities is intrinsic to the words used for the engravings, each enchantment has a “core” word or phrase central to its power. I.e “blood” for looting. But some pairs of core words are incompatable or contradictory on the same item (likely for some arcane supernatural reason). For example, “nature” and “wealth” are the core words for Silk Touch and Fortune and thus placing those 2 words on an item will nullify the effects of both.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I think some people would try adding certain things to the ground lapis pigment to enhance effects. Historically, beeswax and pine rosin are used in the making of ultramarine pigment from lapis lazuli (which wouldn’t be unreasonable to use in the Minecraft universe), and some cultures put animal bones in with the raw iron when making weapons in the belief that some of the essence of the animal would be conferred to the weapon. This could likely also be a thing for Minecraft enchanting, as some people might swear by adding redstone or glow stone or bonemeal to their lapis before they grind it up and apply it.

[sleepeys]

YOU ARE POPPING OFF MY FRIEND

tbf i'd like to think that adding things to the lapis doesn't actually add anything extra to its power or luck, but the belief became so widespread that families or whole villages will die on the hill that "yes, adding the substance of newborn slime babies to the lapis does in fact make the sword swing faster. source? dude trust me"

and there are several historians and alchemists who keep saying no. no stop adding things to your lapis. it doesn't do anything, we checked. and yet no one listens smh

[worldboundary]

Ye ye! Like except for binders that help the pigment adhere it might just largely be superstition. But oh man I think it could open the door to like adding more to people’s enchanting styles... like tubbo using beeswax as the main additive for his. Furthermore maybe some cultures see it as a bit of a ritualistic practice? I.e techno maybe seeing it as meditative? With a whole bunch of practices and rules about enchanting form/etiquette.

This could also tie into the intrinsic Xp cost of book combining, as maybe some practices mandate the addition of certain enchantments before others, or a specific stroke order for the required glyphs... maybe a sort of shorthand for certain commonly used enchantments appears? Like eff5 unbreaking 3

[sleepeys]

yeah that's what i'm thinking! and i personally like to hc that there's lots of different languages the enchantments can come in, which adds to the difficulty and the randomness of enchanting. its why the player can only pick out a few words and has to guess everything else. things like order of adjectives, spelling, conjugation, even entirely new glyphs can play a factor in whether or not your armour can actually withstand a creeper blast or not (and i kinda went on a tangent about that here oops)

[worldboundary]

Mmmmm smells like my favorite part of academia. Conflicting sources, lack of citations, furious debate, and style guides LMAO

But ye it would definitely be cool to see like different translations or variations of each enchantment! I personally would love to see other people’s takes on what each one would be, like different schools of thought almost!

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[wilburian-deactivated20221116]

all of this is canon i have decided

[netheritenugget]

I'm still curious about the curse enchantments, since putting a curse on an item differs from normal enchantments. Like you can't grindstone Curse of Binding off, and it's impossible to get via enchanting table, but you can apply it via books and items you get from fishing them up, or looting them from chests, and the curse breaks when the item is literally broken. I have questions (mostly for my AU).

[errorx403]

I'd say curses are more than just engravings, the magic of them seeps into the item itself and the engraving can seem as if it goes through the item, while never appearing on the other side

[netheritenugget]

Yeah, I talked to someone in my dms about this earlier, curses are definitely engravings or etchings, those are hard to polish/remove from metal. I'd imagine regular enchantments are like the intaglio process of printmaking, where the markings are scratched shallowly into the metal, and are more easily removed with a grindstone. Then a lapis ink is rubbed into the linework, and left to dry.

[worldboundary]

Ooh so that gets me thinking like. What if curses require metal to be inlaid directly into the item, think like Viking era Ulfberht swords

Whereas regular enchantments, as previously said are shallow cuts into the material. Maybe closer to the Sword of GouJian. This might be why applying curses doesn’t use lapis

BUT ALSO what if the original records for these enchantments are fragmented due to time or historical revisionism or other factors, and as such lower levels of enchantments are incomplete versions of the full engraving like for example

This might be why you buy books from librarians ,as they might have been akin to monks in monasteries who copied and recorded ancient texts. Or why the player needs several bookshelves to access higher level enchants.

I actually went ape shit and tried making phrases for each enchant along with the fragmentation patterns for different levels of each enchantment. I’d love to expand on this more, as I don’t know much about linguistics but I think this could be a really cool concept.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4pI5jbJ67PFn-kah3ihEqJC_6DdERC8qD4WJ4htxEE/edit

Mmmmm enchantments

Level I Level II Level III Level IV Level V(Curses are inlaid into the item itself, think like Ulfberht swords as an example) Example: May

[sleepeys]

holy fucking shit

[worldboundary]

AND WHILE IM AT IT BC IM CRACKED RN

Enchantment incompatibilities is intrinsic to the words used for the engravings, each enchantment has a “core” word or phrase central to its power. I.e “blood” for looting. But some pairs of core words are incompatable or contradictory on the same item (likely for some arcane supernatural reason). For example, “nature” and “wealth” are the core words for Silk Touch and Fortune and thus placing those 2 words on an item will nullify the effects of both.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I think some people would try adding certain things to the ground lapis pigment to enhance effects. Historically, beeswax and pine rosin are used in the making of ultramarine pigment from lapis lazuli (which wouldn’t be unreasonable to use in the Minecraft universe), and some cultures put animal bones in with the raw iron when making weapons in the belief that some of the essence of the animal would be conferred to the weapon. This could likely also be a thing for Minecraft enchanting, as some people might swear by adding redstone or glow stone or bonemeal to their lapis before they grind it up and apply it.

[sleepeys]

YOU ARE POPPING OFF MY FRIEND

tbf i'd like to think that adding things to the lapis doesn't actually add anything extra to its power or luck, but the belief became so widespread that families or whole villages will die on the hill that "yes, adding the substance of newborn slime babies to the lapis does in fact make the sword swing faster. source? dude trust me"

and there are several historians and alchemists who keep saying no. no stop adding things to your lapis. it doesn't do anything, we checked. and yet no one listens smh

[worldboundary]

Ye ye! Like except for binders that help the pigment adhere it might just largely be superstition. But oh man I think it could open the door to like adding more to people’s enchanting styles... like tubbo using beeswax as the main additive for his. Furthermore maybe some cultures see it as a bit of a ritualistic practice? I.e techno maybe seeing it as meditative? With a whole bunch of practices and rules about enchanting form/etiquette.

This could also tie into the intrinsic Xp cost of book combining, as maybe some practices mandate the addition of certain enchantments before others, or a specific stroke order for the required glyphs... maybe a sort of shorthand for certain commonly used enchantments appears? Like eff5 unbreaking 3

[sleepeys]

... the use of grindstones in minecraft to remove enchantments from weapons implies that enchantments are things you have to. grind off. like, physical things that can be removed without taking away from the actual item itself

so,,, enchanting things in minecraft. involves. writing the enchantments onto the item. or like, etching it onto the item. it took me this long to realize it and im so mad i couldve been making cool weapons and shit and i just. havent. smh

[sleepeys]

like you're telling me that i could've been drawing cool candid scenes of philza inscribing words onto his swords, trying to translate the books properly, while techno is in the background grinding off a comical amount of even more swords because phil keeps fucking up the translations and enchanting the swords with bane of arthropods iv

[sleepeys]

IS THAT WHY YOU NEED LAPIS LAZULI. TO WRITE IT ONTO THE- OH MY GOD?

[balillee-deactivated20260220]

can we just draw armour now as if it's weird lapis smudges on armour and depending on how much of an idiot the creator of the armour is it'll either be really finely crafted lapis engravings or if fuckin tommy made it it's just half smudged in blue shit

[ladycatland]

Ok but if it works it works, right? Like. Tommy's armor engraving may be an insult to XD himself but it fucking works just as well as Technos perfectly detailed work that took him 3x the time and I'm sure Techno and everyone else absolutely hates that.

And I'm sure that's exactly why Tommy doesn't practice making it look better. Pissing your enemy off with your sloppy handwork doing the same job as their finely hones craft is probably like half the battle.

[terrible-leviathan]

Just imagine on doomsday

Techno: you didn't see as a friend! You only ever saw me as the blade!

Tommy: YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT MY ARMOR LOOKS SHIT BUT IT WORKS JUST AS WELL DICKHEAD

[ladycatland]

"SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE DIDNT GET ENOUGH SLEEP BECAUSE HE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WORKING ON THE ENCHANTMENT THAT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO SLAP ON"

[terrible-leviathan]

Techno: that's not-

Tommy: "OH LOOK AT ME IM TECHNO AND MY PRETENTIOUS ENCHANTMENTS THAT TOOK 5 DAYS" WELL YOUR AN ABSOLUTE BITCH WHEN U COULD EASILY DO THAT SHIT IN 15 MIN

[wilburian-deactivated20221116]

all of this is canon i have decided

[netheritenugget]

I'm still curious about the curse enchantments, since putting a curse on an item differs from normal enchantments. Like you can't grindstone Curse of Binding off, and it's impossible to get via enchanting table, but you can apply it via books and items you get from fishing them up, or looting them from chests, and the curse breaks when the item is literally broken. I have questions (mostly for my AU).

[errorx403]

I'd say curses are more than just engravings, the magic of them seeps into the item itself and the engraving can seem as if it goes through the item, while never appearing on the other side

[netheritenugget]

Yeah, I talked to someone in my dms about this earlier, curses are definitely engravings or etchings, those are hard to polish/remove from metal. I'd imagine regular enchantments are like the intaglio process of printmaking, where the markings are scratched shallowly into the metal, and are more easily removed with a grindstone. Then a lapis ink is rubbed into the linework, and left to dry.

[worldboundary]

Ooh so that gets me thinking like. What if curses require metal to be inlaid directly into the item, think like Viking era Ulfberht swords

Whereas regular enchantments, as previously said are shallow cuts into the material. Maybe closer to the Sword of GouJian. This might be why applying curses doesn’t use lapis

BUT ALSO what if the original records for these enchantments are fragmented due to time or historical revisionism or other factors, and as such lower levels of enchantments are incomplete versions of the full engraving like for example

This might be why you buy books from librarians ,as they might have been akin to monks in monasteries who copied and recorded ancient texts. Or why the player needs several bookshelves to access higher level enchants.

I actually went ape shit and tried making phrases for each enchant along with the fragmentation patterns for different levels of each enchantment. I’d love to expand on this more, as I don’t know much about linguistics but I think this could be a really cool concept.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4pI5jbJ67PFn-kah3ihEqJC_6DdERC8qD4WJ4htxEE/edit

Mmmmm enchantments

Level I Level II Level III Level IV Level V(Curses are inlaid into the item itself, think like Ulfberht swords as an example) Example: May

[sleepeys]

holy fucking shit

[worldboundary]

AND WHILE IM AT IT BC IM CRACKED RN

Enchantment incompatibilities is intrinsic to the words used for the engravings, each enchantment has a “core” word or phrase central to its power. I.e “blood” for looting. But some pairs of core words are incompatable or contradictory on the same item (likely for some arcane supernatural reason). For example, “nature” and “wealth” are the core words for Silk Touch and Fortune and thus placing those 2 words on an item will nullify the effects of both.

On a completely unrelated tangent, I think some people would try adding certain things to the ground lapis pigment to enhance effects. Historically, beeswax and pine rosin are used in the making of ultramarine pigment from lapis lazuli (which wouldn’t be unreasonable to use in the Minecraft universe), and some cultures put animal bones in with the raw iron when making weapons in the belief that some of the essence of the animal would be conferred to the weapon. This could likely also be a thing for Minecraft enchanting, as some people might swear by adding redstone or glow stone or bonemeal to their lapis before they grind it up and apply it.