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I too stand with Angela Carini, who apologized for not shaking Imane Khelifs hand, said that she respects her right to fight, doesn't have anything against her and would embrace her if they met again.

It takes courage to correct yourself, especially when the hate mob wants you to be their icon.

And yes, men don't belong in women's sports, which is why they don't participate in women's sports. Crazy how that works.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

yam1rr

Honey, "Palestinians" actually attempting to kill all the Jews, what they demonstrably have done is a genocide.

War against terrorist who want to annihilate an entire subgroup of people is not genocide. It's war. It's war that the Palestinians started and are reaping what they have sown for the last 75 years.

Lying when the facts are easily accessible doesn't work. Your type of misinformation had its place before the internet, try to be smarter with your propaganda next time ❤️

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

It IS funny, while also not being funny at all. Funny wordplay, not funny event. Awful event, in fact. Terrible. Seems like something Hamas ought to have considered before starting a war, taking civilian hostages, and holding them in apartment buildings and refugee camps. Some sort of wild-eyed seer might imagine a certain sort of kinetic outcome to such a decision.

Mhm. And Israel should've expected Hamas to attack them after years of oppression, killings and occupation? Or is it a one way street?

Btw this time you read like Trump in the way you write, really gotta love the range of racist bigotry you can channel.

What I would love for you to address is the use of the word "terrorists" when referring to civilians though.

Oh, some of them absolutely, undeniably were terrorists. Unless your running theory is that the Hamas members just went to get lunch and left the hostages there with a bunch of civilians and Israel struck then.

However, the practice of labeling everyone in a big group a terrorist or combatant when they’re clearly not is awful, and also very not-new. And yet you’re not talking about it like ordinary awfulness, now are you? Weird.

Also, please point specifically to what racist bigotry I exhibited. I’ll wait:)

Yeah and the résistance were terrorists to the Vichy regime. I won't argue about that though, but I might remind you of your current stance once you fall in line with the media you parrot when the slow machine of liberal opinion-making finishes turning its wheels.

This is not about generalization, but about the systemic dehumanization of Palestinian, especially Gazan people. Which also is applicable to a lot of different situations, but we are talking about this one specifically, no?

I really fall for the "I don't need to spell this out, no way they're this dumb"-trap every time, huh.

Oh and concerning your racism: it's always hard to make a racist see what they are. You have to take this journey on your own, but I'm nice, I'll help you on your first step:

Blaming the oppressed underclass for rebelling violently, after the oppressor repeatedly showed them that any form of "acceptable" protest will be met with extreme violence, while said oppressed class is oppressed because of its ethnicity (and religion) is a racist way of thinking. More clearly: honestly question on what grounds you give people the right to legitimate violence.

Do the Palestinians have a right to rebel against the occupier that robbed them of their land?

Why do you value the Israeli cultural belief of belonging more than the lived experience of Palestinians who inhabited the land uninterruptedly for generations on generations? This one's not fully relevant anymore since the Israelis born there since 1948 didn't ask for it. Then again, the Palestinians asked for it even less and their forced displacement hasn't stopped since 1948.

Ok just checking: is ‘terrorist’ an accurate label for *any* Hamas fighter?

If we’re going to talk about dehumanization, we’re going to talk about dehumanization. Not only when Israelis do it-as they certainly do. But that’s not a conversation you seem capable of having, or even admitting exists.

As for blaming Palestinians, your reasoning accepts as given a lie: that Hamas is a true representative of the Palestinians of Gaza. It is not. Full stop. I do not, in fact, condemn Palestinian resistance. Even violent Palestinian resistance, necessarily, though I won’t deny saying that makes me uncomfortable. It doesn’t necessarily follow, though, that ALL resistance is justified. The Gaza Hamas wants to create, for instance? Well. There are a number of reasons why there haven’t been elections in Gaza in, what, ten years? More? There’s a reason the election they won was by a narrow margin and due as much to PLO fuckups as Hamas popularity.

As for valuing Israeli rights over Palestinian? I don’t. But it’s not that simple, either.

Yes it is. Terrorism and resistance aren't mutually exclusive, I mean the fucking word itself has its source in the french revolution (although they started terrorizing the people after winning).

Are you asking me if I condemn the dehumanization of Israeli citizens? Idk, maybe there's a reason I blame the IOF and the State and not the people in general. Still, Israel is "the only democracy in the middle east" so the people do bear some responsibility.

Is there any other option for Palestinian resistance than Hamas right now? Yes, they could rebel against a heavily armed violent group or they could wait (and hope) for the citizens of Israel to slowly vote a more humane regime into power. Hard to do when your people regularly get killed by the current regime though.

So by default, Hamas is Palestinian resistance. Which is not a good thing, but let's keep in mind who helped them to get to that position. And it's not just "PLO fuckups" or Hamas' false promises. Israel decided to play divide and conquer and it backfired hard.

So you *don't* condemn the dehumanization of Jews. (Excuse me, 'Israeli citizens', Hamas always makes that distinction clear, I forgot.) The extent to which you 'condemn' it, it's Israel's own fault. Good to know:) Right now? Right now obviously there's not another option for Palestinian resistance. Hamas has led Gaza into a hopeless, disastrous war, and institutional change such as this doesn't happen in wartime. Look at Bibi, for fuck's sake, teetering on the edge of ouster and ready for the docket once he was out when Hamas decided-for reasons almost entirely divorced from 'Palestinian liberation' to start this war. You are right about one thing, though. (That stopped clock again.) Israel did have some involvement in Hamas's power in Gaza, and that has backfired terribly. Both in a broader scope and in a much narrower one, across the sweep of the past decade and change, and the months leading up to last October.

Aaight yeah this is it. Can't make an effort to be honest in the face of such blatant hypocrisy.

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

Mhm. And Israel should've expected Hamas to attack them after years of oppression, killings and occupation? Or is it a one way street?

Btw this time you read like Trump in the way you write, really gotta love the range of racist bigotry you can channel.

What I would love for you to address is the use of the word "terrorists" when referring to civilians though.

Also, please point specifically to what racist bigotry I exhibited. I’ll wait:)

I really fall for the "I don't need to spell this out, no way they're this dumb"-trap every time, huh.

Oh and concerning your racism: it's always hard to make a racist see what they are. You have to take this journey on your own, but I'm nice, I'll help you on your first step:

Do the Palestinians have a right to rebel against the occupier that robbed them of their land?

Ok just checking: is ‘terrorist’ an accurate label for *any* Hamas fighter?

As for valuing Israeli rights over Palestinian? I don’t. But it’s not that simple, either.

Yes it is. Terrorism and resistance aren't mutually exclusive, I mean the fucking word itself has its source in the french revolution (although they started terrorizing the people after winning).

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Well, no, sweetie, there's no 'if' about it. Jews were there first, and they didn't leave voluntarily. Killing all Palestinians would be a genocide, though, you're absolutely right. And at the rate of Palestinian population growth since 1948, depending on how you count it, the Jews will finish the job in about...-500 years or so. How does time work again? Is it like an old television where you reach the highest channel and it loops back to channel 2 again? If that's how time works, Israel might be getting there soon. You cracked the case! Good job!:)

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

First off, you keep proving you don't really understand the English language's nuances. There is no "if" indeed, I'm saying that their being there first is irrelevant, not that it's not true. Maybe I should start writing in simple english since you read all my posts, might as well make sure you understand them.

Once again, you're using the same rethoric as holocaust deniers, though I guess you don't see it since you don't consider Palestinians as humans. Israel being incompetent doesn't change what they're trying to do. But I did prove that by shitting on you in another thread so I won't bother doing it again.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

I know there’s no ‘if’ needed, but you’ve demonstrated enough ignorance, dishonesty, and bigotry that you don’t get that benefit of the doubt. That’s the point. Also the point: you have a habit of saying one thing and then later ‘buh buh common meaning’ when…it’s not. Keep it up, though:)

In what way, specifically, am I using the same rhetoric as Holocaust deniers? I don’t think that’s the first time you’ve said that, and you still haven’t explained it. I guess you really do just throw up buzzwords and assume that’s an argument?

As for Israeli incompetence…you said Israel is killing 250 Palestinians per day. When I pointed out, using facts, how stupid that number was, and that contrary to killing all Palestinians their population has doubled…now they’re incompetent? It really is, for you, ‘they’re genociding!’ and that’s it. Make up numbers, lie about slogans, ignore challenges, your truth is so strong it’s impervious to any number of lies and factual errors, ain’t it?

And that’s why your flimsy pretext of ‘I’m saying Israel, not Jews!’ doesn’t work. But in your world, Israelis are genocidal for saying ‘we will outlive you’, whereas Israel has supposedly been trying to kill all Palestinians for seventy years and is incompetent because their population has doubled.

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

Except for all the ones I have, several with entirely factual objections, sure:) It's cute that your response to 'specifically, how am I doing this?' is 'you can't challenge even one thing'. That says it all. Just for fun, though, what's your favorite of your own statements that I 'haven't challenged'? I'm curious if you'll stick with the flat out general lie, or if you'll get more specific.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

You’re welcome at your convenience to point to where, exactly, I’ve done that:) Of course, even if you could, I’d still be catching up to you on that ‘tactic’.

But hey, a more serious question for you since you’re a different flavor of bigot than usual: why’d you add 30,000 deaths to the Hamas ministry-supplied toll? Just curious:)

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

No, I’m just giving you further chances to refuse to answer. Not that it’s ’still be answering’, since you haven’t started yet. Your pet name game is getting stale, though. Since you won’t answer basic questions like ‘why did you double the highest number of deaths?’, maybe you’ll take feedback on your aloof smug game.

Either you’ll answer my question, and that answer will be buckwild in its antisemitic stupidity; or you’ll continue this way, and it’ll be fun seeing what you think sick burns are. Can’t wait!:)

Aight let me put this plainly one last time since you keep confirming your lack of reading comprehension: You've proven time and time again that you aren't interested in or capable of debating this subject above kindergarten level.

So I'm not going to engage anymore. For now. If I feel stupid some day and need to reassure myself that there are dumber people than me in the world, I'll summon you again. It's pretty nice to know that you'll always come running if I want you to, gotta hand you that.

Oh and one last thing: if you want to verify the statements I make, you can just Google them. That's the fun thing about facts: they're the same for everyone.

Figured you might not know that, since yours come straight from your imagination.

Oh, you haven’t been engaging for awhile, so I don’t know what you mean by ‘anymore’. Again, for language like that to apply, you have to start engaging. ‘I’ve won’, ‘you haven’t shown anything,’ and ‘you sniff paint’ in response to challenges of ‘show me where this was said’ is not engagement.

You don’t have to ‘summon’ me. When I remember to check, I’ll take a gander at your blog and call you out with simple, factual questions about your bullshit-such as ‘where did you get that ridiculous number?’-and wait with amusement and curiosity for your next variation of ‘I answered that already (don’t ask me where)’ or ‘you’re a dumb poo head’.

As for Googling, well that’s what I did when you said ‘250/day’. I knew immediately that that was a stupid number, and went to verify. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-deaths-women-children-360c6aabc03421c718d4a8452cec2c67

The Associated Press analyzed the death toll in the Israel-Hamas war using data provided by the Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip.

So the Gazan ministry of health, run by Hamas, reports roughly 36,000 deaths. Your statement of 250/day, for roughly 250 days, gives a death count of roughly 60000 people killed. Nearly double what *Hamas* claims. As I’ve explained and shown, repeatedly.

Another interesting facet of this is how little Palestinians actually mean to you, the purported ally. How many dead? Who cares! Just toss up a spicy number and whine at the Jews about-excuse me, sorry, the Israelis, right:)

Swear to God every time I think I'll take a break from bullying you, you end up saying some shit so dumb that I can't help myself.

So: I haven't been engaging for a while, but you didn't seem to get the memo. Meaning I had to clarify, which I did.

It's also pretty obvious that you regularly check my blog, which, admittedly, is flattering in a way. No need to be shy about it, if I didn't want you to I could always block you. But it is fun to see you trying to write in a witty and sophisticated way. Makes me feel better about my own bad writing.

Now let me address your bullshit since you're begging me to: where did I say the IOF killed 250 a day "for 250 days"? I guess it's easy to put words in people's mouths when they aren't present to put their fist in yours.

My number is sourced from Oxfam, on January 11th of this year. I do know that the amount of confirmed killings/day has diminished since then (I'll get back to that later). But as you yourself have stated, the "we will outlive them"-slogan was already in use then. Meaning my point stands, regardless of your hair-splitting.

So once again, you decide to understand my words in the way that suits you most. That's okay though, since I now know that you're part of my audience, I'll be sure to idiot-proof my future posts, you know, to be inclusive.

Oh and if I can't trust the Gazan ministry of health, I really don't see how the Associated Press is a valid source.

On another note, every war (look I'm being nice and using a word that doesn't make you piss yourself!) has a large amount of deaths that only get recorded a long time, sometimes years after the end of hostilities. Especially when one side systematically destroys the healthcare system of the other and regularly kills journalists and foreign aid workers.

The 36.000 are the confirmed deaths. I strongly doubt that the actual number is below 100.000, and history sadly only confirms that suspicion.

Oh btw about Israel's efficiency in genocide (which is your holocaust denier-type argument in case you still haven't caught on): it's easier to get away with it when you do it slowly and quietly. They decided to go loud recently and would you look at that: they're slowly but surely becoming a pariah state.

EDIT: I just reread that first post. Wtf were you trying to say with the TV channels? I don't think I've ever seen someone fail so hard at an analogy.

This is the third, the fourth time you’ve been done with me?:)

I’m not shy about it at all. Quite open in admitting I look over your shit, and reply to poke holes in it.

Right here is where you said 250/ day. The war has been going on for roughly 250 days. Now here’s where you (again) say ‘I didn’t mean what I SAID, you paint sniffer!’ but *shrug*. But hey, yeah, the only reason I’m ‘brave’ enough to talk like this to you is because you’re not here to make me stop. It’s always a sign of someone to take seriously when they bring out ‘I’d kick your ass!’:)

Your point about ‘we will outlive them’ doesn’t stand, because as I demonstrated, it’s a saying that well predates modern Israel, and is something of a theme in Jewish history for literal millennia as well. Might *some* Jews use it in a genocidal fashion? Absolutely! But if that’s enough to make it genocidal, ‘from the river to the sea’ is *definitely* genocidal. Which was most of the point. (I’m just glad you’re not here, so I can muster the courage to say it without fearing for an ass kicking!:))

I love what you say about the AP…because their reporting *uses Gazan MoH data!* I appreciate the confirmation that you did nothing other than see the letters ‘AP’, though:) (Gosh, I’m so lucky you’re not here to kick my ass, I’d never be brave enough to laugh at you otherwise)

As for genocide-and yes, your meaning about Holocaust denial was plain, I just wanted you to enunciate it-unless I’m mistaken, and I likely would’ve heard about it, one of the denial rhetorical tools isn’t to say ‘actually, the population has grown, here’s data’. But I’m just a dude who thinks words have meanings.

As for pariah state…heh. Oh, dear. Whatever shall Israel do now that it’s ’becoming a pariah state’?

Man I'm really sorry if I scared you, I assumed you would know the difference between a threat and banter. But that takes life experience I guess.

On a more serious note: you don't get the time to twist words in real life. The other person will just interrupt you as soon as you start wilfully misinterpreting. Because real life exchanges happen in real time.

I meant what I said, I didn't mean what YOU said, I feel the difference there is vital.

The swastika predated the Nazis, that doesn't unload it's meaning. Times change and context matters, saying you will outlive the people your army is killing en masse is a clear statement. At least in my eyes.

And duh, ofc the AP uses ministry of health data, there is no other source afaik. That doesn't mean they use it in good faith or aren't aligning themselves with US interests.

And this apparently will come as a surprise to you, but laser-focusing on perceived discrepancies to try and counter hard fact is indeed a Holocaust denier tactic (conspiracy theorist tactic in general tbh).

Yeah, I was of course deeply frightened. I didn’t regard it as a ridiculous example a threat common to Internet tough guys, worthy of scorn and treated as such:) Anyway, it’s fun to watch you backpedal again.

As for interrupting, I quoted you. *shrug* black and white. But yeah something something interrupt twisting words yadda yadda.

But ok! You’ve finally said something nuanced and halfway intelligent. Good for you. Maybe in the manner of a stopped clock, time will tell. Yes, context and intent matter. Meanings change. So if some Jews (just to be clear, that’s your way of thinking) using it with the use it with the clear subtext of ‘because we’ll kill you and survive ourselves’ makes the saying genocidal, then ‘from the river to the sea’ as used in support of Palestinians (against Egypt and Jordan sometimes, no less) is *definitely* genocidal.

As for the AP, I’m not talking about their reporting. I’m talking about their number sourced from Gazan MoH to counter a claim you made. Details are important!

And as for your charges of Holocaust denial (and boy, I’m half hoping half dreading you’ll dip your antisemitic toe in that water)…just because a person or group uses a technique doesn’t make it universally bad, or good. Strange how willing you are to apply this ‘reasoning’ against Je-excuse me, ‘Israel’ and yet you aren’t tainted by associate with Hamas apologism. You echo their talking points, you defend their claims, you support their resistance…and yet you can separate yourself from unpleasant Islamic fundamentalist things just with the wave of a hand. Despite all of those commonalities.

Meanwhile, though, anyone who disputes a genocide is happening are making common cause with Holocaust deniers. The ways your mind finds to have double standards impressively flexible.

Look, you misinterpreting and me clarifying isn't backpedaling. I feel as though I need to clarify that, because this isn't the first time you take that shortcut to try and discredit me.

Now for one more clarification:

Did I say you interrupted me? I'm confused. You insist on your honesty so much that I want to believe you, but am I to explain all your misreadings? Are you just hovering over what I write? Couldn't blame you tbh, I don't always read all of your shit.

What I said was that you can't use this type of misdirection IRL because YOU will get interrupted while trying it. Idk just re-read what I wrote, I guess. This one isn't even up for interpretation, I was pretty clear.

And yes, you did directly quote me. And you did also add something that I didn't write (the 250/day number being applicable to the entire timeline), as can be seen in the quote.

As for the AP, a) you countered a claim you claimed I made, there's a difference. and b) they do clearly write that they disregard a part of the numbers stated by the MoH.

Concerning the slogans: as we agreed, context matters. On one side, you have people whose land was taken, chanting that their land shall be free. On the other side, you have people whose army is killing the ones whose land they took, chanting that they will outlive them. The context looks clear to me.

Clarifying once again: I did not say that you are a Holocaust denier. I strongly doubt that you deviate from any opinion supported by western media. Now just to be clear, the holocaust having happened is not an opinion but a fact (gotta put this one out there to prevent your big brain argumentation tactics). What I did say is that you use the same rethorical tricks as holocaust deniers.

Why does it apply to you and not me?

Let's make it easier for you and conflate Palestinian liberation with Hamas: The difference between Hamas and the Israeli government is that one side has genocide written in its charter, while the other one writes genocide into history right now.

And just for clarity's sake: I defend the Palestinians claim to governing their land, not Hamas' claim to kill all Jews.

Sadly, right now they are the only group willing to take up arms for the freedom of Palestine. I don't think that's a good thing, ideally the global community would make them superfluous and they would dissolve/end up in jail, but that's not the world we live in.

The global community has always looked away when genocide happened. We looked away for the native Americans, we looked away for the Armenians, we looked away for the Holocaust, we looked away for ex-Yugoslavia, we looked away for Rwanda and we look away for Sudan and the Uyghurs right now.

Why am I investing my energy into preventing the Palestinian genocide and not the others happening right now? Because people refuse to look away for once and I see a chance that we might stop it.

The goal right now isn't the full liberation of Palestine. It's to get the Israeli government to stop killing civilians. Yes that also means freeing the hostages. On both sides.

Once that's done, the next goal is to undo the damage Israel has done. That also means the dissolution of Hamas at some point. And the full restructuring of the State of Israel at the very least. I can imagine that being ruled by the people your government mistreated for 76 years is a scary prospect and I don't have a solution for that problem. But what I do know is that what's currently happening certainly isn't the solution.

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

Mhm. And Israel should've expected Hamas to attack them after years of oppression, killings and occupation? Or is it a one way street?

Btw this time you read like Trump in the way you write, really gotta love the range of racist bigotry you can channel.

What I would love for you to address is the use of the word "terrorists" when referring to civilians though.

Also, please point specifically to what racist bigotry I exhibited. I’ll wait:)

I really fall for the "I don't need to spell this out, no way they're this dumb"-trap every time, huh.

Oh and concerning your racism: it's always hard to make a racist see what they are. You have to take this journey on your own, but I'm nice, I'll help you on your first step:

Do the Palestinians have a right to rebel against the occupier that robbed them of their land?

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

You’re welcome at your convenience to point to where, exactly, I’ve done that:) Of course, even if you could, I’d still be catching up to you on that ‘tactic’.

But hey, a more serious question for you since you’re a different flavor of bigot than usual: why’d you add 30,000 deaths to the Hamas ministry-supplied toll? Just curious:)

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

Oh and one last thing: if you want to verify the statements I make, you can just Google them. That's the fun thing about facts: they're the same for everyone.

Figured you might not know that, since yours come straight from your imagination.

The Associated Press analyzed the death toll in the Israel-Hamas war using data provided by the Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip.

Swear to God every time I think I'll take a break from bullying you, you end up saying some shit so dumb that I can't help myself.

So: I haven't been engaging for a while, but you didn't seem to get the memo. Meaning I had to clarify, which I did.

Oh and if I can't trust the Gazan ministry of health, I really don't see how the Associated Press is a valid source.

The 36.000 are the confirmed deaths. I strongly doubt that the actual number is below 100.000, and history sadly only confirms that suspicion.

EDIT: I just reread that first post. Wtf were you trying to say with the TV channels? I don't think I've ever seen someone fail so hard at an analogy.

This is the third, the fourth time you’ve been done with me?:)

I’m not shy about it at all. Quite open in admitting I look over your shit, and reply to poke holes in it.

As for pariah state…heh. Oh, dear. Whatever shall Israel do now that it’s ’becoming a pariah state’?

Man I'm really sorry if I scared you, I assumed you would know the difference between a threat and banter. But that takes life experience I guess.

I meant what I said, I didn't mean what YOU said, I feel the difference there is vital.

And duh, ofc the AP uses ministry of health data, there is no other source afaik. That doesn't mean they use it in good faith or aren't aligning themselves with US interests.

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

Mhm. And Israel should've expected Hamas to attack them after years of oppression, killings and occupation? Or is it a one way street?

Btw this time you read like Trump in the way you write, really gotta love the range of racist bigotry you can channel.

What I would love for you to address is the use of the word "terrorists" when referring to civilians though.

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

You’re welcome at your convenience to point to where, exactly, I’ve done that:) Of course, even if you could, I’d still be catching up to you on that ‘tactic’.

But hey, a more serious question for you since you’re a different flavor of bigot than usual: why’d you add 30,000 deaths to the Hamas ministry-supplied toll? Just curious:)

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

Oh and one last thing: if you want to verify the statements I make, you can just Google them. That's the fun thing about facts: they're the same for everyone.

Figured you might not know that, since yours come straight from your imagination.

The Associated Press analyzed the death toll in the Israel-Hamas war using data provided by the Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip.

Swear to God every time I think I'll take a break from bullying you, you end up saying some shit so dumb that I can't help myself.

So: I haven't been engaging for a while, but you didn't seem to get the memo. Meaning I had to clarify, which I did.

Oh and if I can't trust the Gazan ministry of health, I really don't see how the Associated Press is a valid source.

The 36.000 are the confirmed deaths. I strongly doubt that the actual number is below 100.000, and history sadly only confirms that suspicion.

EDIT: I just reread that first post. Wtf were you trying to say with the TV channels? I don't think I've ever seen someone fail so hard at an analogy.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

You’re welcome at your convenience to point to where, exactly, I’ve done that:) Of course, even if you could, I’d still be catching up to you on that ‘tactic’.

But hey, a more serious question for you since you’re a different flavor of bigot than usual: why’d you add 30,000 deaths to the Hamas ministry-supplied toll? Just curious:)

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

Oh and one last thing: if you want to verify the statements I make, you can just Google them. That's the fun thing about facts: they're the same for everyone.

Figured you might not know that, since yours come straight from your imagination.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

You’re welcome at your convenience to point to where, exactly, I’ve done that:) Of course, even if you could, I’d still be catching up to you on that ‘tactic’.

But hey, a more serious question for you since you’re a different flavor of bigot than usual: why’d you add 30,000 deaths to the Hamas ministry-supplied toll? Just curious:)

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

Oh, for sure. Hard to even have an argument someone won’t name:) But anyway, yeah, that’s the way political discussions work. The side that declares victory is the one that’s won.

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

Heh, so that’s a ‘no’ then. Apparently I do it all the time, and you won’t name a single example.

It’s one of those jokes you’ve heard before, but it’s still funny:)

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

I mean even if Jews were there first, killing all Palestinians still is a genocide honey.

Maybe you're the one that should read the definition again?

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

So here we have you using ‘paint sniffer’ as an insult, and adopting a pose of the sophisticated adult. Which is just…well, it’s the sort of thing I talk to schmucks like you for:)

Something something…let’s see, I’ll bet you bust out smooth brain next. I can’t wait:)