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Redid the background yayyy
A quick sketch of Shang Qinghua to get back into my favourite hobby! (I’m serious this time, I promise)
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got a fun bot comment on a svsss podfic and it made me laugh so hard that I had to make it into a meme
New chapter up! We've hit 50k words, so I thought I'd celebrate with a cute meme!
Yay more svsss sketch !! Original template by pompipurin ! I remplace Shen Jiu and Luo Bingge (sorry i love them i swear !!) and put Qi Qingqi and Yang Yixuan instead... they are two characters you won't see often (ESPECIALLY YANG YIXUAN???) but they both left a great impression in me Except SQQ, LBH, LQG, YQY and LMY, it is the first time I draw them haha
Exposing SVSSS Fanon: 5/∞
MING FAN AS HEAD DISCIPLE OF QING JING PEAK
Rating: FANON - CONFLICTING
Most fanworks I've come across call Ming Fan the Head Disciple of Qing Jing Peak-- because of the prevalence of this idea, I even held to it in my own writing for a while. However, in canon, Ming Fan is NOT and never was Head Disciple.
This is another case of a fairly honest misconception, though.
In an earlier translation of SVSSS done by BCnovels, Ming Fan is referred to as Head Disciple:
"Descending the mountain this time is for the sake of gaining experience. This teacher will not be able to help you. Ming Fan, as the head disciple, you will need to vigilantly prepare so the demon won’t harm your fellow disciples." (BCnovels Ch. 6)
Shen Qingqiu said affably, “They were harvested from my head disciple Ming Fan’s family’s tea fields. As for whether they’re high-quality or not, won’t Shang-shidi know if he comes to take a meal at Qing Jing Peak?” (BCnovels Ch. 93)
(Many thanks to @shen-qing-qiu for providing these quotes!)
Even in terms of translation, the mistake is fairly honest as well. The exact position Ming Fan holds is 大弟子 (Da-dizi), and he is called 大师兄 (Da-shixiong) by Ning Yingying.
In some cultivation novels, 大弟子 is also the head disciple (I believe MDZS may be this way, but I do not have a copy of the original on hand to check right now), but what it literally means is "most senior/oldest disciple." It isn't necessarily the oldest of the group, but the one who was first to become a disciple of their master/a sect/etc. and has thus been training for the longest time, and has the most experience.
Ming Fan continues to be referred to as Da-shixiong even after Luo Binghe became head disciple:
Ning Yingying tugged on the battered and bruised Ming Fan. “Da-shixiong, did you hear?” she murmured. “A-Luo and Zhangmen-shixiong are saying that person is…Shizun?” (7S Ch. 13)
Which makes perfect sense-- even if the ranking has changed a bit, he is still the most senior disciple of Qing Jing Peak-- that won't ever change.
However, this is not the same as being head disciple.
In SVSSS, this is a separate category, where instead of being determined by seniority, the head disciple (首席弟子 Shouxi-dizi or 首徒 Shoutu) is a disciple specifically chosen for the role by the peak lord. Huan Hua Palace also has this role, and though less is known about internal sect politics there, it seems to follow the same sort of rule, with favored disciples being given this title.
Ming Fan is never referred to with this title. He is senior disciple, NOT head disciple.
The two quotes from the BCnovels translation above have since been corrected in the official TL:
“This trip down from the mountain is for the sake of your training. Unless as a last resort, this master will not assist you. Ming Fan, as the most senior disciple, you must design careful strategies, lest you let that demon harm your fellow disciples.” (7S Ch. 2)
“They were harvested from the tea fields of my senior disciple Ming Fan’s family,” Shen Qingqiu said affably. “As for whether they’re high-quality, won’t Shang-shidi know if he comes for tea at Qing Jing Peak?” (7S Ch.26)
It appears that when there is no head disciple, the senior disciple fills that role and performs the same duties:
All affairs on Qing Jing Peak, whether large or small, were handed to and looked after by Shen Qingqiu’s trusted subordinate, Ming Fan. (7S Ch. 1)
However, if a head disciple is chosen, many of these duties and authority will shift to the selected disciple:
These past couple of years, Shen Qingqiu had handed all manner of miscellaneous tasks big and small to Luo Binghe to deal with. After all, for now Luo Binghe was so sweet, obedient, and useful, his work thorough and meticulous. (7S Ch. 4)
At this point, though it has not directly been stated, Luo Binghe is the head disciple of Qing Jing Peak (there will be another post on this topic later).
One last note, I have also seen Liu Mingyan being referred to as head disciple in fanworks. This is a similar situation as Ming Fan's, though she is not even referred to as senior disciple. It isn't a big enough issue with enough canonical references to be worth its own post, so I would just like to add onto this post that Liu Mingyan is NOT head disciple either.
This is interesting. I always assumed that in PIDW, Ming Fan was the head disciple. Luo Binghe definitely would never be Shen Jiu's head disciple. But then none of the disciples we know of in canon ever got a generational name. I always thought that the head disciple in SV is not necessarily *succeeding* disciple, because some novels make that distinction. Head disciples usually are the one in line for being succeeding disciple, but not always. It depends on the logic of specific novels' worlds.
In SV i don't really know what exactly the succession entails because I don't think we have too many details of that. Shen Yuan obviously chose Luo Binghe to be the disciple with most 'authority' because that's who he favours (and at this point LBH is the strongest anyway, though that isn't necessarily the criteria a scholar's peak would value most, but SY does). But in terms of the original QJP head disciple, I always believed that Ming Fan was that person. Not quite when Shen Yuan transmigrates because they're all still young, but eventually. I do wonder if the novel mentions anything at all about Ming Fan's position in PIDW, rather than after Shen Yuan takes over. I can't remember the details now. But I did also read an unofficial translation so it could be that the mention of him as head disciple was this very mistranslation about after SY takes over rather than in the og novel.
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hehe a little warm-up sketch before i dive back into work 🥰 this time it's Shang Qinghua relaxing in the grass with his husband's coat hehe
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maybe this was the closest they could've come to having a home with each other
I JUST CHOKED. BITCH YOU ARE SO COOKED. ALSO A KID??? REALLY??????
WHY IS THAT KINDA CUTE????? ALSO SO FUCKED UP.
WAS NICE KNOWING YA SHEN QINGQIU
That's MY shizun you're bothering 🙄🙄🙄