SOCIOPATHY & NARCISSISM IN THE CHARTS PART 2
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READ THIS BEFORE READING THE POST: Sociopaths and narcissists are made, not born so no placement can make you one, most people have atleast one of the aspects mentioned. These are just personal observations of things Ive seen in the charts of sociopaths & narcissists and how factors such as trauma that led them to become like that is seen in the charts.
Sun shows the ego. A narcissist has a wounded ego.
SUN/CHIRON: Chiron shows a wound. So with this aspect(especially square or conjunction) something happened early that wounded the ego and the lifetime is spent making up for it by protecting the ego = narcissism.
SUN/SATURN: Especially the square can show a person whos been criticized relentlessly by a father figure which can lead to extreme ego defensiveness. The person might use some intense defensive mechanisms anytime the ego or image is treathened.
SUN/NEPTUNE: A narcissist needs to justify their behaviour because they cant handle the shame of being wrong and admitting that they did something wrong. The ego is so sensitive that it starts to deny things that can hurt it. This is where Neptune the planet of fantasy and delusion comes in. The person with this aspect starts to see themselves as whatever they need to see to avoid shame.
Moon shows who we are at the core, it also shows our relationship to our parents and what we experienced in childhood.
MOON/SATURN: This can show a lack of warmth between the person with the Moon/Saturn aspect and their mother. Sometimes even neglect or abuse. This leads to a deep sense of shame in this person from an early age and shame is how a narcissistic personality starts to form.
MOON IN AQUARIUS, 11TH HOUSE OR 11°/23°: Moon can often show a person who at an early age felt disconnected from their parents, especially the mother. The child grows up like an orphan not forming a bond to the very person they are supposed to be the most safe with. Aquarius energy also tends to cool things down and here it can cool down the emotions making someone quite cold. This can if trauma is involved lead to a very antisocial personality.
MOON/PLUTO: People with these aspect often have a mother who controls the family with an iron fist. Cruel punishments were often common and often times the punishments was connected to nurturing such as being denied food or even being thrown out of the home. This neglect can trigger the development of BPD and other disorders. Some people with this aspect were also the black sheep and the shame and humiliation of being the black sheep is one of the common causes of NPD.
SIRENE(1009): This asteroid can be found in the charts of especially female sociopaths who use feminine charms and looks to attract victims. Sirene doesnt make someone bad but it can make someone treacherous. The person draw others in very easily only to later prove that they were not what they seemed. Post in Sirene HERE.
SWINDLE(8690): A sociopat views everyone as supply. A prominent swindle can lead to someone viewing others as supply. Other humans are simply nothing but a source of money, sex etc. A person with this asteroid prominent is extremely skilled when it comes to fooling you. A born swindler. What it aspects can show what and who they are more likely to swindle. Ted Bundy have it conjunct Venus.
NESSUS(7066): ”The cold distant qualities comes from imitation of a parent who is cold and distant to the child.” Nessus is the asteroid of abuse and Ive seen it in people who come from generations of extremely abusive family dynamics . In the case of Moon conjunct Nessus there is often a woman in the family whos narcissistic and rules the family and treats everyone differently based on the roles shes given everyone(golden child, black sheep, scapegoat). And with Sun conjunct Nessus this can be seen but with a father whos the narcissist. Often times the person with Moon/Nessus or Sun/Nessus was treated differently than the rest of the family. The sad part of this is that when this person grows up and have their own family they dont break this cycle and instead themselves start behaving like their own parent.
DEJANIRA(157): Dejanira is the asteroid of victims and tend to show someone whos been victimized. The planet/house it aspects can show how and by who. Being victimised can sometimes leading to someone who starts to victimize others to feel powerful. The abused becomes the abuser. But not always ofc, this is just a possibility. Most of all Ive seen people with Dejanira aspects tend to have a fearbased personality. How they treat others can often depend on if they fear them or not and everything they do in their life is to avoid a percieved fear. Ive seen Dejanira conjunct Venus in the charts of several people who will be abusive towards every woman they meet unless its a woman they are afraid of, then they will kiss her ass instead.
NARCISSUS(37117): Narcissus can show narcissistic behaviour but as I said before it cant show narcissism. But if its in the chart of a narcissists it might be able to show what kind of narcissism and what the person do to feed their ego. Ive seen this conjunct Mars in the chart of one woman who was an overt narcissism. Starting conflict with people and between people was her way of feeling superior and strong. Ive also seen this asteroid in the charts of victims, for example conjunct Moon in people whos mother was a narcissist.
LIE(26955): This asteroid can make someone a good liar. This doesnt mean that the person with this asteroid prominent will lie, but if they want to they could be good at it. Being good at lying means less concequences and less risk of being confronted which can lead to a person who keeps lying bc they know they can. A child with this asteroid prominent might realize early that they are a good liar which can lead to problematic behaviour in the future.
LILITH: People with a prominent Lilith see society from the outside looking in from an early age. They questions things that others dont from an early age, a 9 to 5 is one of these things. People who live a normal life starts to look like they are all just conartists. The dark becomes comforting for these people and they welcome their dark side instead of suppressing it because they were once nice but were still treated like they were a treath. This is why we often see Lilith conjunctions in the charts of criminals and a lot of criminals are sociopaths or even psychopaths. So while Lilith is ofc not enough to make someone a sociopath it leads to a person who early seek comfort or power in antisocial behaviour.
PREY(6157): If you have been the primary target of a narcissist or sociopath you know how they make you feel like prey. I know a man with Venus conjunct Prey and he always attract narcissistic women. They prey on him and can spot him in a crowd for some reason. His mother was abusive (he has Moon conjunct Chiron) so women can sense a vulnerability in him. So this asteroid can often show being prey but it can also show someone who locks in on a target and preys on it.
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