this blog will be kept up purely for archiving purposes. it's effectively abandoned. i no longer wish to support alex kister or his work. more info in pinned
so far i don't plan on deleting this blog, i don't think. tmc has brought a lot of good memories and introduced incredible people to my life, which wouldn't be possible without this silly little "side project". i don't think it's shameful to admit you enjoyed a piece of media for what it was, even if you do not condone the creator or their actions
that said, even with my attachment to the series and characters like adam, i will no longer continue posting about the mandela catalogue. but given the size of the following this blog has i consider still using it to spread awareness over things like the genocide in gaza
as for any fan creations i had tied to tmc (like spare artwork or aus i had) i'll probably "ocify" a lot of it. again characters like adam meant a lot to me, it would be a shame to drop something i thought so in depth about that in some cases could be considered my original work
for those who stuck around for the ride, thank you <3 you guys were so lovely. if anyone cares for it, my main is @gallalctyka. i post and reblog about anything that interests me at the moment
take care, once again support ven, db and other victims of alex kister, and see you on the other side
for your response to that ask, literally same. the fans developed on what was given and made it more interesting and fun in my opinion. Everyone was really creative and interesting. I similarly had started to fade from my tmc interest other than a few characters, but even then it was because I had a version of them that was becoming more of my own thing. Breaking away from tmc now gives more creative liberties to fan stories now-turned-ocs. The spark just isn’t there as much anymore for tmc, and the situation set the final decision. Even with it being ‘iffy’ there’s tons of grey areas and more responses/apologies that need to be made/addressed to the other victims
TL:DR; don’t make people go back to an interest if they don’t want to, let people break away. especially if it’s for very valid reasons
(hopefully I made sense)
yeah, pretty much. this community was such a great thing to be a part of but i've said my goodbyes already lol
i'm not too offended by people wanting for me to go back to tmcposting or whatever, because i guess it kind of tells me they liked my work and thoughts on something, which i find really nice? i just want to make it clear that's not happening ever again
look, i know kister made a response, and i just learned he posted another teaser. but i've made up my mind about no longer wanting to support him or his work
like yeah the whole situation has been fucking messy to put it lightly, but i still think alex was in the wrong to interact with his audience in that way (not to mention they only replied to one testimony and no other, and haven't even apologized for anything to my knowledge)
also, the spark i had for tmc is just. no longer there. i've lost interest. you could already see that with my inactivity prior to the release of the original doc. i've moved on already
i have other interests- i'm currently hyperfixated on minecraft of all things. and i still post on my main blog if that interests you. but my "tmc era" is over and it's not coming back, end of story
"I’m personally a Holocaust survivor as an infant, I barely survived.
My grandparents were killed in Aushwitz and most of my extended family were killed.
I became a Zionist; this dream of the Jewish people resurrected in their historical homeland and the barbed wire of Aushwitz being replaced by the boundaries of a Jewish state with a powerful army…and then I found out that it wasn’t exactly like that, that in order to make this Jewish dream a reality we had to visit a nightmare on the local population.
There’s no way you could have ever created a Jewish state without oppressing and expelling the local population. Jewish Israeli historians have shown without a doubt that the expulsion of Palestinians was persistent, pervasive, cruel, murderous and with deliberate intent - that’s what’s called the 'Nakba' in Arabic; the 'disaster' or the 'catastrophe'.
There’s a law that you cannot deny the Holocaust, but in Israel you’re not allowed to mention the Nakba, even though it’s at the very basis of the foundation of Israel.
I visited the Occupied Territories (West Bank) during the first intifada. I cried every day for two weeks at what I saw; the brutality of the occupation, the petty harassment, the murderousness of it, the cutting down of Palestinian olive groves, the denial of water rights, the humiliations...and this went on, and now it’s much worse than it was then. It’s the longest ethnic cleansing operation in the 20th and 21st century.
I could land in Tel Aviv tomorrow and demand citizenship but my Palestinian friend in Vancouver, who was born in Jerusalem, can’t even visit! So then you have these miserable people packed into this, horrible…people call it an 'outdoor prison', which is what it is. You don’t have to support Hamas policies to stand up for Palestinian rights, that’s a complete falsity.
You think the worse thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by a thousand times, and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians.
And 'anybody who criticises Israel is an anti-Semite' is simply an egregious attempt to intimidate good non-Jews who are willing to stand up for what is true."
im not sure if you read the callout doc, but everything within it is very transmisogynistic and ableist. feel free to reread, but this time take it in.
I've read all the documents. From day 1.
Let's talk.
Let me start by saying that I am both trans and disabled.
Alex was never outed as a paedophile. Twitter morons making memes made that up with their lack of reading comprehensibility. The document was ALWAYS about how Alex fosters parasocial relationships with his fans, many of whom were minors within private enclosed spaces (servers). He spoke inappropriately with people from a position of power. As a 20 year old, it is YOUR responsibility to know that trauma dumping and suicide baiting kids is something you DON'T DO. That is what this is all about. People made memes on twitter, spread misinformation, and made it so that it's very difficult for people to find the original sources.
Much of the so-called 'evidence' supporting Alex are deep faked images that were NEVER part of the original document. That Hooters image was never in the original source or any of the victims' statements.
Alex's close friends, work crew, and associates have confirmed that he behaves like this behind closed doors and have stepped away from him. If it weren't true on some level, his friends and other people in the horror scene wouldn't have done this. They would've, if anything, supported him or at least told people it may not be true.
There was no transmisogyny in the original doc. It was made clear that Alex used any pronouns from the get-go. Numerous accounts of his (like his Tumblr for instance) publicly says he uses any pronouns. Just because the inappropriate behaviour occurred in a 'gender identity server' doesn't mean the whole situation is about calling out someone for talking about their gender identity - the situation is about him making servers mostly filled with minors and forming parasocial relationships with them to the point he would suicide bait and rely on them for mental health support. Additionally, all of his victims are trans or genderqueer in some way. This isn't about Alex potentially being trans at all. This is about his behaviour and lack of taking responsibility when talking to his fans.
As for ableism, yeah, Alex is probably mentally ill in some way. I have seen his rambling messages, we are aware that he was supposed to be getting professional help at numerous points and refused to because it meant he would have to take accountability. Just because Alex is likely unwell, it doesn't mean he is suddenly exempt of being held to a better standard or that he can't take responsibility. I am mentally ill too, I have done shitty things to my friends too, but I still took accountability and did the work. I went to therapy, made amends, and did better. Alex was confronted and didn't - instead they would suicide bait and manipulate. Calling out someone who's mentally ill for their inappropriate behaviour when they, time and time again, refuse to get help or even admit they were in the wrong isn't ableism.
Alex isn't guilty of being a paedophile. But he is guilty of being irresponsible when talking to fans and minors, fostering parasocial relationships, and refusing to acknowledge that his behaviour was wrong (even though he has admitted to knowing he hurt people). He needs help and needs to do better, much, much better. I am saying all of this as someone who is waiting to hear Alex's side of things, too, but it is undeniable that he has been inappropriate and abused his position of power as a creator. He seems like a person struggling through a lot, but that is no excuse for his behaviour. You can be mentally ill and/or trans and still be a shitty person who has done shitty things.
I hope Alex gets help. I do. But people in his position need to be called out for their actions or they will not change. I know this from personal experience.
This is all I'm saying on the matter until Alex makes a statement on things. In the meantime, support the victims and read their original statements on twitter (donutqq_qwq has compiled a thread of all of the victim statements).
I wanna make a post on Tumblr because this site is so much easier to actually convey thoughts without a limit. I also want to spread this to other sites since I understand that not everyone has Twitter. I am seeing a lot of misinformation spreading that I never said or my words have been twisted or actually misunderstood.
(Also, yes this is stirringjuice from twitter. I did have another account with the same name on here but I don’t use it.)
First thing, ME AND DB USE HE/THEY PRONOUNS. WE ARE BOTH TRANS! AND BOTH ADULTS!
I know it was so stupid of me to not include that and I was hoping for people to just use “they” when it wasn’t stated otherwise. I was going to leave it alone because a lot of us have been called childish or immature for speaking out. But it’s now incredibly uncomfortable and I’m tired of it. Yes, I am taking the fault on it.
I would also like to say that I originally wanted to be anonymous and not have people use Ven. But unfortunately, people started using my name and I no longer could disconnect myself from this situation.
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“The Mandela Catalogue is actually fetish content”
No. I have NO idea why people twisted a small explanation I made into something very gross. There is no proof that this series was made because of a fetish. There are multiple interviews where Alex explains his inspiration for this series. Please stop saying it’s a fetish content.
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“Alex is a pedophile.”
None of us have ever mentioned about him being a pedophile and I originally explained that there was no evidence of him being a groomer.
I saw grooming as only associated with manipulating young kids into sexual acts. I gave Alex so much credit that he wouldn’t stoop that low. However, after hearing from other victims, grooming can happen to anyone. And it’s honestly a good way to describe this situation. He groomed multiple fans just for sexual gratification.
I do find it weird to compliment or show affection towards a minor the same way you would with a partner. He does speak like this to everyone of all ages.
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“Alex is severely ill.”
Yes! So are a lot of us who are affected by him. Mental illness can be an explanation but not an excuse for someone’s actions.
Understand that several of us gave support to Alex because we probably relate to his experiences. I myself have issues with paranoia, depression, and anxiety. I was always there for him.
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“All/some of the messages are faked.”
None of them. Yes some of them are cropped. (This is an explanation for only me and DB’s experiences) The messages that surrounded Alex for all of them would have been us reciprocating or sexting. Which something I already mentioned in the document and the explanation of why it’s still malicious. I felt uncomfortable with the non-con fantasies despite reciprocating because if he never opened up to me about it, would he still do it? Or what if I said no? It freaked me out because he implied in a call that he had these fantasies before with other people.
Messages from servers can be confirmed by witnesses who were in those servers. I made a video of me and DB’s dms with his discord id, alongside with my recording of my instagram dms.
I can’t fully show mine or DB’s discord messages because DB wants to stay anonymous.
The reason why his icon is erased is because of discord’s transcript. DB’s icon does this as well (which, honestly, I don’t know why I covered it up now thinking about it. It literally did not matter).
Here are a few more examples of messages from the transcript (this time being on mobile).
Also, our messages matches with other people’s experiences. Please, PLEASE, do not only read my document. I believed we all shared the same experiences that creates a bigger picture.
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“You promised about not sharing details.”
I don’t know how to explain this in the most simple terms when I felt like I explained it the best in the document. Also, decisions can be changed later.
This is not me being manipulative or a liar. There were so many adjustments to this document that involved me not even telling my side of the story because of what I said before. Like, yes, I know what I said.
I originally did not want to spread anything outside of my conversation because from my perspective DURING THAT TIME, I did not see Alex as malicious. I saw him as incredibly childish and incredibly emotionally incompetent.
My side is supposed to represent the amount of times I tried to get him help and him continuously hurting himself or others, and still ended up in this position. Also, the parallels between me and DB’s experiences (and now that more came out, Jeremy’s experiences as well).
That’s why I was aggressive during our last few encounters because he lied about wanting to improve. He said he wasn’t ready for a relationship and then goes out and hurt people. He has done this several times.
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“You’re transphobic / outted him.”
Don’t be a groomer then. Also look at @kiwivskiwi post. https://www.tumblr.com/kiwivskiwi/745057126643384320/alex-kister-and-actively-using-being-trans-to-lure
I've seen a lot of people who have read the google doc about Alex Kister and have taken away the idea that Stirringjuice (who wrote it) is t
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“Why don’t you show his face?”
Someone pointed out that his bed covers do match. I also knew that people were going to call me transphobic or that I’m humiliating him for posting these photos online. The best decision was to cover them up and they are never being released.
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“Why did you release this the same time as other allegations?”
Almost purely coincidence. I was inspired by Shelby’s experience to speak out because I saw parallels with the way that Wilbur replied and acted (the manipulation).
This has been in the works since January and it would’ve been out in February but reliving these experiences actually made me dissociate several times. It gave me migraines and heavy anxiety that made me lose my appetite. I hated reliving it over and over again.
Which is why I wanted to disconnect from it. I didn’t ever expect this to gain so much attention so fast. And after all of this is done, you will never see me again. I hated every single moment of it.
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I will be using this account as a way to answer questions, I will NOT be answering anything that seems aggressive.
The reason why I wanted to be more spoken out about this is to prevent any creators misusing their platforms and taking advantage of their fans.
I am not saying I am victim of this, my experience is to show he has not changed at all. I hardly even want to call myself a victim.
i cant even describe how upset the alex kister situation makes me. not because i had an attachment to the thing he made, not in the slightest, but its because it is a direct parallel to what i went through like a year ago. down to the manipulation disguised as playful banter so you cant pick up that hes coaxing someone into something at first glance and everything. it was all just so deeply real to me and it hurt to read. seriously. its completely fucking terrifying to see this shit happen over and over and over again with no end in sight, for kids to look up to creatives in a field they admire only to be completely churned out and crushed by those creatives as nothing but perverse objects they can manipulate. if youre a fan of what kister makes and youre upset that you cant like his stuff anymore, you are the lucky one in the scenario. i mean this sincerely when i say you have lost nothing. this dude had unimaginable amounts of power and pressure over the hopeful young kids he manipulated. his victims are getting death threats for speaking out about this shit because of how big his platform is. the children he manipulated? that he abused and took advantage of? they are the ones who are risking losing everything by speaking out about this. the first priority shouldnt be mourning the fact that "my favorite analog horror series is tainted forever now :(" it should be supporting the victims of this. always. and if you dont believe them just because your favorite little analog horror boy makes suuuch good content and could never do such a thing? from the bottom of my heart, as someone whos gone through the same ordeal and all the consequences that come with speaking out about it, fuck you.
if you want to know how dehumanizing it is to speak up about this type of behavior. when i first exposed my abuser for what they did, i had to beg the internet at large to not make memes out of it or turn it into shitty drama content videos because i knew thats how this shit always goes. and it still happened. imagine your trauma, your pain, your betrayal at the hands of someone you trusted, something so evident and clear to see as the blatant vileness that it is, being dumbed down to the thing of the week. or the thing of the month. or the thing you see all year and can't escape from no matter how many people you block or how many people you report. it is the most isolating experience you could possibly go through. i am incredibly fortunate to have survived the pressure that year put through me. i still am haunted by it and its been almost a year since it happened. a full year and it still lingers. that is what the people abused by alex are going to go through because people don't trust victims, as much as we want to universally have hope that they do. i was blamed for it. i was called weak, and pathetic, and that i was 'asking to be groomed' while i was a child and they were in college. they were the one who shouldve known better, and i was the one who had to force them to confess to what they did publicly because they didn't want to. all i ask is that you be there for the people affected by this. im super grateful for everyone that showed me that there were more things to life than the trauma i'd endured, but those people were often the minority. if i was lucky, it would get treated like a joke. really let that sit with you. i still get harassed for this to this day. i fully stand with the people affected by this vile, vile man, and i hope this time it goes down better than what i had to endure. thats really all i wish for.
oh also. one other thing I’ve noticed about the kister situation is the immediate ocification of his characters and world as an excuse to still enjoy his work. I understand if you had an AU or something that you’ve been working on for like ten trillion years and it isn’t that attached to kisters work anymore. but i just keep seeing jokes about everyone’s “new ocs meerkat heathbar and sussy tables!! now that we hate this white guy content creator I can finally ship them yay yay yippee :]” it’s been one day. If you cannot let go of one piece of media in a sea of other pieces of media that are similar and probably better, or even hold off on making jokes about it for ONE DAY after it has come out that REAL LIFE HUMAN PEOPLE were hurt, I don’t know what to say to you. I just don’t. also. please for the love of god maybe don’t use the ever repeating situation of “famous person uses their fame to commit predatory, dangerous behavior towards their fans who trusted them” as an excuse to make your favorite one note horror whiteguys kiss. not only does it say some not great things about your respect towards creator boundaries (even if it was likely that alex only pushed this rhetoric to make himself look less like the type of person he ended up being, plenty of creators genuinely do have these sorts of boundaries and won’t be happy to see how little people actually care) “situation sucks but I guess some good came out of it because now I get to do (this) with this property” nothing good came out of this for the victims. absolutely fucking nothing.
While I've seen plenty of reblogs, rightfully spreading awareness to the doc. I'd like to give out more twitter links of other people's statements about this situation.
The first links come from people who were popular in the TMCTWT scene, have had interactions with Alex in some way and provide additional screenshots:
I'm also adding just a few more links that I think are worth seeing too.
Kyle DeNigris, the voice actor for Gabriel, has already gone out to say that they will no longer be associating with TMC. https://twitter.com/ItsameWario48/status/1767620005997281526
Martin Walls, the creator of "The Walten Files", has also spread awareness to the main doc published by stirringjuice. https://twitter.com/smiles_bunny/status/1767616374778503250
It's entirely possible that I've missed out on a lot more I could link. So I highly encourage people to reblog more with other people's statements. I'm doing this for anyone who might not be active at all on Twitter, like I am as well.
again a reminder to prioritize uplifting the victims in this situation, not woe over your favorite analog horror series being over. real lives were affected and they're more important than your media consumption
should’ve said this earlier but i’m no longer supporting alex kister. anything tmc related will not be tagged as such if i ever make or reblog any again (which is unlikely)
hey yeah, i know i haven't been active on this blog much lately (mainly due to personal life as well as the hyperfixation on tmc a bit weakened) but please take time to read the posts i reblogged. cw for a lot of uncomfortable shit
In light of Alex Kister's actions I'm eternally deleting all of my Mandela Catalogue art online. Please read the full document which was written by STIRRINGJUICE on X/Twitter.
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