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"Red Dawn," but with the Foxes instead of the Wolverines.
If you enjoy the murdery parts of All For the Game you might also enjoy The Butterfly Assassin by Finn Longman, which also features an ace protagonist. There's also Esperanto. And street art.
Been having some fun finding more 13s in the books. The obvious are the ones related to Andrew — 13 foster homes, 13 therapists, 13 when he went to juvie, 3 + 10 (his number plus Neil's).
A couple of the others I've found so far:
Allison is 7 and Seth is 6. 7 + 6 = 13.
More relevant to Andrew, his family members also add up to 13 — Aaron is 5 and Nicky is 8.
Wymack's apartment number is 724. If you add the individual digits you get 13 again.
I'm tempted to reread the series again and see if I can find more.
ETA: 1 + 1 + 2 + 9 is another 13 — Jeremy and Jean's Trojan numbers. It only works like that, though; other variations boil down to 4, which should have been Jean's Raven number and ended up being Neil's. 11 + 29 = 40; 4 + 0 = 4. Or 1 + 1 = 2; 2 + 9 = 11 and 1 + 1 = 2; 2 + 2 = 4. (Technically 13 also boils down to 4. It's 4s all the way down.)
I want to start by saying that I'm not trying to excuse Andrew's violence or say that Kevin in any way deserved any of it.
However, Kevin grew up with constant, over the top violence from the time he entered the Nest. When Riko tormented his "property," it was because he felt like it and he could. He didn't need any kind of reason, even if he sometimes gave one.
When Andrew cuts Kevin and then threatens to do worse in TRK (which doesn't get nearly the amount of attention the choking scene does, for some reason, even though it really should) it's because Kevin touched him first. When he chokes Kevin, it's because Kevin was withholding information, which Andrew had warned him not to do pretty dramatically when the Ravens switched districts.
Again, to be 100% clear, neither of these are good reasons for violence and I'm not excusing Andrew or blaming Kevin. Given Andrew's history his actions make some sense but they are still not right. They are both flawed, hurt by their history, and that shows in these events.
Given Kevin's history, it makes sense that he'd at least superficially overlook them and move on. Yes, Andrew was violent toward him — but Kevin would be able to give it a reason, an explanation, internalize some kind of "if I just don't do X, he won't do it again." Which is really unhealthy! But Kevin is also an abuse survivor and even after loads of therapy with Betsy it would not be unexpected for him to still slip into that mindset. One other example: When Andrew tells Riko not to mess with his things, he is including Kevin as one of his things — something that would probably be pretty psychologically harmful to Kevin, who did at one point belong to Riko for all intents and purposes, but this is also never addressed again in the text.
Was it traumatic when Andrew, his friend who had promised to protect him, did these things? Certainly. Is it surprising that a man who grew up expecting and receiving much worse from his adoptive family to just bury it in his subconscious and not address it again? Not at all. Doesn't mean it didn't affect him, but given his history it's possible that he has normalized this so much that, even after a year and a couple months, it would've been more surprising for him to address it publicly. ETA: Not to say that he will never get to a point where he recognizes this kind of treatment as wrong and pushes back on it, but at this point in his healing he was very much not there yet. If he was, then his defiance of Riko by covering his tattoo would not be such a big deal. That shows the start of him finally starting to internalize and act on the idea that his experience in the Nest was not normal. Through most of the first trilogy he was still just trying to get his feet under him, not yet actually dismantling all that. /ETA
Especially in front of Neil, the POV protagonist — there's no indication that Kevin and Andrew never spoke about these two incidents, but the readers wouldn't know about it unless Neil did (unless Nora includes it in Kevin's books or does extra content about it someday).
I don’t see nearly enough hate for Jeremy Knox’s father on here.
Fuck Trent Knox.
Just thinking about the fact that Renee spotted Andrew's deranged surfer boy act and was like
"Omg twin!!"
The rest of the Foxes staring in horror
For real though I would love to eventually get a book from Dan's point of view.
You're captaining this team of raging assholes and then some famous dude comes and is like "The yakuza broke my hand and told me I can't play anymore and they're after me, can I join your team?"
So you take a vote and let him, and after it looks like your stabby goalie might kill him before the yakuza can for a few weeks, Stabby McStabberson adopts the dude and starts punching anyone who looks at him funny.
And then famous dude recruits this scared, quiet homeless kid from Arizona but then that kid gets mouthy and keeps provoking the yakuza and then you find out it's his birthday thanks to a blood-o-gram and it comes out the next practice that the mafia is after him too, actually, and no he doesn't want to stop lying to everyone, thanks though.
And in the middle of that whole mess Stabby gets attacked and his twin kills the attacker and even though it was clear the guy needed killin' the twin's gonna face a trial anyway. Meanwhile Stabby goes to rehab and Mouthy disappears for two weeks and comes back looking like he visited the world's largest cheese grater.
And you just wanna have a successful exy season. You just wanna win a championship. Maybe for people to stop being dicks to your team for five minutes. Also maybe your boyfriend has a crush on Mouthy and actually maybe you kinda do too but he's into Stabbers McGee and Allison just won a bunch of money from you about it.
AU where everything is the same except Andrew keeps making more and more "Logan's Run" references. He's playing a game with himself to see how long he can keep it going before anyone other than Wymack catches on. (He knows Neil won't.)
imagine you work at a luxury car dealership. two college kids show up in a shitty rental car one day. one is has facial tattoos and the haughty attitude of a famous person. the other is a dead-faced goth the size of an elf. tattoo boy says they’re here to buy so you humor them and show some cars. elf man doesn’t say a word the whole time but clearly is calling the shots. he points at a Maserati and says he’ll be paying for the whole thing, no financing necessary. then he goes back over to the rental car, where evidently there has been a whole person asleep in the backseat the entire time. this man is about the same height as the goth pixie and dressed like a homeless person. he listens to the goth say something, pulls out several wads of cash, hands them over and goes back to sleep. your boss spends the next hour walking these freaks through the paperwork while you count through what turns out to be nearly 100k in cold hard cash. no one explains a goddamn thing and they leave with the nicest car on the lot
I am so deep in the Andreil sauce but I would love it if there was any actual Dan/Matt/Neil fic out there?
Like I'm not gonna write it myself, I have like an ever growing number of Andreil fics in my WIP folder and if I was to work on anything else it would be Cat and Laila and their adopted disaster brothers, but I would read Dan/Matt/Neil stuff.
My other favorite in-progress fic right now is Quarter Mile by Dearamleo.
AU where they race cars Fast & Furious style and I adore it. If I could draw at all I would draw the flip off scene from chapter four, which is iconic. But I can't, so I'm recommending this fic in the hopes that someone else might.
One of the fics I'm working on is a crossover (I hate crossovers, why am I doing this) that involves supernatural abilities, and I was going to have Andrew be the only one to have them, but then I thought about Jean with the same powers and I can't not do it, but I also don't know how to fit that side story into the main narrative, so I guess now I'm working on two crossovers?
I hate crossovers, why is this happening to me
I normally have zero interest in Neil-with-a-kid fics and not a ton of interest in Raven!Neil, so when I say that mordax's fics The Sun Still Rises and Red on the Horizon are two of my top three favorites AFTG fics, you know they're amazing.
I want to see more scenes in fics where the Foxes take advantage of Neil or Kevin's lack of pop culture knowledge, but in like harmless fun ways. There is no way Nicky never asked either of them for their opinions on updog.
I know Kevin spent summers in the Nest when his mom traveled, but where do you think he grew up otherwise? Did Kayleigh and Kevin spend the off-seasons in Ireland when he was tiny?
I don't remember if this is addressed anywhere in canon/extra content but maybe I've forgotten?
Was Kevin Day conceived on an exy court?
Yes
No
The post that inspired this poll
What part of the last week lead you to that conclusion