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Just a cute Rose I wanted to draw
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Fanart for Rose, I did in June thought I will post it here too
fan remake of "The Last Jedi" (2017) designed to be as universally accepted by Star Wars fans as possible
rey on the island holding out her lightsaber for luke skywalker: :(
luke skywalker: *takes the lightsaber from her and gazes on it fondly* you have come back to me, old friend. this is all i need to ascend to my highest form of being *closes his eyes and turns into a 20 foot tall being made of pure light, all of his limbs are covered in the lightsaber blades of all jedi masters past present and future*
rey: holy shit
luke skywalker: that’s right young one. it’s time for the jedi order to end… and for the SUPER jedi order to begin. let’s go kick some ass
MEANWHILE ON A SHIP
poe: hey finn buddy! glad you’re awake! i just had a question for you. you don’t happen to have any sort of dynamic, ambivalent worldview you could go off and consider or refine in some kind of character study subplot, do you?
finn: haha no why would i waste the audience’s time with that? i DO have this two sided mandalorian darksaber with blasters on each end so it’s like a combination of darth maul’s lightsaber and ezra bridger’s composite blastsaber but i’m saving it to give to luke skywalker when he gets back from island
poe: wow cool! i’m going to go disappear for 2/3 of the movie again
BACK TO LUKE SKYWALKER
luke: – and so anyways, the genetic memories of Boba Fett and Emperor Palpatine were implanted into your mind as a child to give you advanced combat abilities and Force sensitivity, before you were hidden on Jakku to incubate your full potential before your father Grand Admiral Thrawn (from the EU) returned to initiate you into his jedi-assassin empire
rey: wow master luke, and here i thought i had talents informed by my difficult life experiences and heroic spirit
luke: LOL of course not. but you DO have the special nebula crystal entrusted to you by Obi Wan Kenobi that will allow us to bring Han Solo back to life as an all-knowing cyborg programmed to never not shoot first. this will help us win the Star Wars
thanos: hi guys i’m thanos
ok nobody is allowed to mock or discourage these people i really want to see what kind of unmitigated nightmare they come up with
I hope it’s not a scam so I can see the ensuing mess
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Rose Tico, Kelly Marie Tran and toxic fandom
A short examination of Star Wars tumblr fandom
*Note: All posts that I link to are for receipt purposes, and the receipts themselves usually contain more links to more receipts so you better click on them. Also they are there for evidence, not for the harassment of the bloggers.
What I find interesting in the wake of Kelly Marie Tran deleting her posts off instagram after months and months of abuse has been the responses on here from those who have virtually made a personality out of dislikng Rose Tico (and TLJ and Rian Johnson, etc.) and who have in the process perpetuated a form of racial misogyny while simultaneously theatrically disavowing White Fanboys. After all, they’ll tell you, we weren’t the ones calling her slurs.
Posts like the one above are telling: it does something interesting, which it completely drops the woman part in favor of narrative solely of racism, and racism only that of White Fanboys. But contrary to the blogger’s opinion, the harassment and, crucially, the response to Rose Tico, was not only about racism it was about sexism as well.
It’s convenient to omit this fact because it makes it easier for certain people to slip through the cracks and bypass any blame or self examination as possible players in a larger endemic of modern social media driven fan culture. The ways in which White Fanboys have been racist and sexist is pretty well documented, which is why it’s a little baffling why the above blogger seems to miss the latter entirely. Kelly and Rose are not simply a person of color but a woman of color - women of color do not experience racism and sexism separately.
I for one do not believe we can understand the backlash to Rose Tico without seeing it as animated by specific forms of racial misogyny - whether it’s a white male calling Kelly a “fat ch*nk” on Instagram or the broader reception of her character on places like Tumblr. I want to talk particularly about the latter.
Consistently those who have critiqued Rose Tico’s character on Tumblr have resorted to depicting her as a harridan, hyper aggressive towards the male character, arrogant and unsympathetic. You may recognize this tactic: it’s one of the oldest sexist tricks in the book. Tumblr being what it is adds a unique spin to this, sexism being mobilized in the name of anti-racism, ostensibly to protect her love interest, Finn.
This leads back to why I think it is very convenient to omit the gendered aspects of the perceptions of Rose’s character. Doing so portrays the problem with fandom as the property of those with certain identities saying outwardly racist things, and not people with other identities we consider marginalized saying things wholly compatible with the sexism or racism of whiter, maler fanboys.
As I’ve argued before, this very gendered understanding of Rose Tico is shot through by racism the - consequence of which is that she is held to a double standard compared to Rey, a White woman, while also victimizing Finn in a way that reduces him to simply a proxy for his race. Since Rose is an Asian woman she is duly penalized for stepping out of the box of feminine virtue. Asian women are stereotyped as docile, primitive, sexually available and hyper feminine. The flip side of the docile Asian butterfly, is the Dragon Lady, the aggressive, deceitful, prickly and seductive Oriental female waiting to unman the hero.
Rey, a white woman who is more conventionally beautiful by Western standards, enacts a more acceptable femininity, especially towards Finn: she does not challenge him nor hold him responsible when she finds out he’s been fibbing to her about the Resistance. Rose does, and in doing so pushes both him and herself to grow and change.
Now I’m not saying that to dump on the Finn-Rey dynamic. It works for them and is fairly justified in universe (Finn comes back to help Rey, there’s no time for chit chatting anyway).
But the double standard is astounding: Rose tasing Finn when she rightfully deduces that he is trying to leave the Resistance after she believed he had joined, which is her job anyway, after her sister sacrificed herself for the Cause, is considered “anti-Black” despite racial connotations in text and in real life being thoroughly averted. But when Rey, a White woman, wrongfully assumes that Finn is a thief and knocks him down with her staff, having never even spoken to him before, it is considered a “meet-cute”. I was around when all we had was TFA in the fandom and I know that there was no such discussion surrounding Rey’s seeming aggression toward Finn, certainly not to the degree we are seeing with Rose, despite the implications of a White woman hitting a Black man because she believes he is a thief being far more problematic. When this is pointed out to some fans it is either ignored or sidestepped completely.
Make no mistake that shipping is a primary motivator for Rose Tico’s treatment by those who proclaim themselves to be Finn oriented fans on tumblr. The fact that these stances are possible relies on privileging White women and Men of Color and even White men, over the Woman of color. That this leaves Rose Tico and Kelly Marie Tran high and dry, similar to how White Fanboys have left her high and dry is no coincidence. Even if they are not hurling slurs they are maintaining radio silence on the harassment Kelly has received or are finding other bullshit ways to problematize her.
Some attempt is made to argue that these “anti-racist” sections of fandom are objecting to what they believe is the stereotyping of Blacks and Asians in The Last Jedi, but as I explain here these attempts are faulty and incoherent.
So how does this tie into the harassment KMT received directly. Well, it’s a part of the same toxic highly manipulative entitled and reactionary fan culture that nurtures that very type of harassment and rewards it with legitimacy and avenues for diversion of bigotry and terrible behavior in general. They are not separable phenomena diametrically opposed to one another, but wholly compatible, as I pointed out in this post:
You all are part of the problem of toxic fan culture as the White dudebros, even without being their moral equivalents, because you helped normalize racializing and gendering characters in specific ways AND shitting all over creators and actors, in order to justify fixating on a movie you didn’t like. Not surprisingly this will always trickle down to the more marginalized like Kelly (if she was not already the immediate target).
And again here when Rose Tico and Rian Johnson “critics” were trying to divert any complicity they may have had:
Our whole argument isn’t that every anti/FinnRey person was responsible for hurling slurs or being exactly like the White dudebros - it’s that the criticism of antis/FinnReys is the other side of the coin of White dudebros.The criticism that comes from antis/FinnReys relies on very particular ways of racializing and gendering that nonetheless uphold racial misogyny and are incoherent under scrutiny.
The difference is that script is flipped. Instead of framing it in racist terms, it’s framed in anti-racist terms; instead of the complaint being Forced Diversity, it’s Bad Representation; instead of it being Kelly’s fault, it’s Rian’s; instead of the problem being that the women tell the men what to do, it’s an Asian woman not treating a black man in an acceptable fashion.
Basically the good majority of what passes for criticism in the anti/FinnRey community is appropriating the argument of White dudebros and redressing it as anti-racist and anti-sexist - but repackaging these ideas instead of discarding them means they end up reifying the same thing.
We are holding you lot as responsible in your own right not because we believe these two groups are moral equivalents. But because we recognize the common well that they both draw from. We are holding you lot responsible because of your role in nurturing racial misogyny in fandom that allows this behavior to reproduce itself, while mystifying it through layers of identity and abused anti-racist, anti-sexist rhetoric turned upside down.
You don’t need to say outright that Rose is a downgrade for Finn; that’s already implicit in your demonization of Rose and the double standards you hold her to.
Moreover there are entire tags dedicated to hating on Rian Johnson - not respectfully critiquing but actually impugning his person. Similarly so with Adam Driver - to the brink of lies being spread about him. There is an entire blog dedicated to hating on one fucking movie (unironically made by someone who said they would leave tumblr if R*ylo became canon).
Many “TLJ criticals”, anti FinnRose and anti Reylo people - all of whom have a strong overlap with one another - participate in this hate and so bear direct involvement in the producing and reproducing of a culture that says it’s ok to shit on people (and on other fans because *gasp* they ship this thing you don’t like). The more marginalized, like Kelly Marie Tran, will always bear the brunt of this so long as we allow it towards any actors or creators at all, and especially if we allow it to don the disguise of progressive sounding political-cultural critiques and monopolized identity.
To finish up I advise checking out these insightful posts pertaining to Rose and Finn that I think does more justice to The Last Jedi, Finn and Rose Tico than 99% of people in fandom, whether on Instagram or Tumblr, have done.
I hope the wider fandom can learn from this, lend their support to Kelly Marie Tran unconditionally, and stop making a personality or a Cause or even a substantial presence in fandom based off something they disliked - and relying on racialized sexism in the process.
Obviously I have to ask about Star Wars for the discourse thing lol
There is a looooot of Star Wars discourse that I can not stand. Rather than focus on all of it (there is SO MUCH), I will just say that one of the main ones that really gets me is the argument that by having the main villain of the ST play a major role in the movie… where he is the main villain…. Rian was trying to make Kylo sympathetic/something less than a villain.
There are just countless posts saying “Rian probably wanted us to think Kylo wasn’t a terrible person BUT (lists things that were overt in TLJ, or from the books Rian himself edited like Bloodline, actual main text that displays that Kylo is a terrible person - almost as if his arc in TLJ was about how no one was forcing him to make the choices he was, as if even though he is torn up about it that doesn’t change the fact that he keeps making the bad choice, as if the movie showed us him killing Snoke so there is no one left to blame, and yet he STILL chooses to stay and lead the First Order rather than go for any form of redemption.. oh wait THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE MOVIE SHOWED US).”
I mean there is a lot about how the fandom latched onto a few people’s hate of Rian and then warped the movie around that, claiming he wanted Kylo to be something other than the villain when… that movie was so restlessly damning of him, like TFA pushed a ~poor manipulated Kylo~ narrative and then TLJ tore that narrative to shreds, but alas even talking about that is impossible because everyone on here just wants to send this man death threats, and have done so to such an intensity that LucasFilm changed all their policies so we no longer can know anything about what is coming to shield the people involved with them from the never ending hate everyone involved with TLJ got.
Note: Literally the only reason this is my least favorite Star Wars discourse, and “Anakin did nothing wrong and the Jedi were evil/abusive/terribad” isn’t, is because this discourse involves death threats to a real person. If it wasn’t for that, the people who read all kinds of malicious stuff into the Jedi’s actions would be getting the #1 worst spot on my list.
God thank you for this omfg I keep trying to figure out where the idea that the movie sides with Kylo comes from.
Like. There’s subtext and then there’s text. Cinematic language is a language, a language to convey images and sounds through a narrative point of view. Visual framing has textual elements.
Kylo Ren’s point of view isn’t one the narrative favors and that’s not open to interpretation. I don’t mean his point of view as in his beliefs and opinions. Actually being in his head, having him be the perspective the audience inhabits. Outside of a few shots and one piece of a flashback presented Rashomon-style, we don’t see things through his eyes. The Rashomon sequence only works as this unreliable narration because his point of view isn’t the film’s point of view. And also the hate that people give the scene with shirtless Kylo is really kinda funny because it’s Rian Johnson’s way of absolutely smashing the idea that Kylo is an object of audience gaze over everyone’s heads. Kylo isn’t just shirtless for some cheesecake (as in that one Anakin scene) – the fact that Rey is seeing this is the point of the scene. She is the looker, he is looked upon.
Kylo is extremely looked upon in the movie, like pronouncedly so, and this is not how white men are usually portrayed. It’s such a reversal of expectations that despite Johnson using the most heavy-handed cinematic language he could to put Kylo external to the POV, it looks like it actually confused people.
“What the hell do you mean I’m supposed to be looking at him? Why do you want me to look at him??? I don’t get it, are you obsessed with him? Are you in love with him? Why is he the only thing this movie cares about?”
He’s not! He’s just the only main character who is object and not subject. Rey, Finn, Poe, Rose, Luke, Leia – we are not looking at them as much as we look through them, unless they’re looking at each other. (except Luke at first but I have Too Much to say about that). Kylo is set apart from every other main character in that sense.
*gets out a megaphone, clears throat* PROBABLY BECAUSE HE’S THE ANTAGONIST.
When Johnson implied that Kylo and Rey are two halves of a protagonist, that was a) probably misdirection because the fact that Kylo is the true main villain of the film (not necessarily for the trilogy, but for this one film) is a TWIST and b) not something we should override basic film language for. The movie speaks for itself.
Kylo is framed through a lot of close third person limited perspectives up until the twist. Far more than in TFA. When he’s framed through Rey’s gaze, he seems redeemable. When he’s framed through Snoke’s gaze, he seems soft-hearted and pitiable. Through Luke’s, he’s a victim. These are subjective points of view, and they’re not Rian Johnson’s true POV.
So what is? Well we could wait for the scene where all eyes are on Kylo in the barest open space. Where Kylo gets to be framed from far away in long shots, no longer at the middle (conversational) distance or in intimate (interpersonal) close ups.
That’s the clearest we’re supposed to see him. It comes at the end of the film, end-of-film conventionally being the time to reveal things you were concealing earlier.
We see impotent anger. We see him blinded by his narcissism, believing Luke is there to save him, and not Leia and the Resistance. We see violence. We see hatred. There is still a glimmer of uncertainty and confusion and humanity. But he is no longer as pitiable as he is pathetic. The enemy he rages against is literally an illusion. And Luke spells it out: he is wrong about everything.
But who am I to know better I guess? This movie honestly does make me doubt my film literacy sometimes but opinions I saw from people who aren’t 24/7 fandom gremlins (my family, internet people, THE CRITICS) read the movie more or less like this. I’m pretty sure it’s the text.
Keep smiling, Kelly! 💖✨
People are really trying to ““support”“ KMT by saying that Rian Johnson should’ve been the one on the receiving end of the harassment instead of her.
And that’s…a lot lmao, but the big thing that stands out to me is this buck fucking wild idea that internet harassment is some kind of natural disaster, an uncontrollable phenomenon that was always going to happen. That it’s inevitably going to target someone, and the most we can do is try to aim it at someone who “deserves” it.
No, cyberbullying and harassment isn’t an some kind of tornado that we can only try to predict and plan for. It’s a choice.
People made the choice to harass Kelly Marie Tran. They made the choice to leave body-shaming and racial slurs on her social media. They made the choice to prioritize their own disappointment about a fucking Disney movie over the feelings and well-being of a real life person. They made the choice to treat fictional ships as more important than a real person.
They made the choice to hold a female character of color to a higher standard than the white female character. They made the choice to make it socially unacceptable to stan Rose Tico or ship her with her canon love interest. They made the choice to not stick up for her when the negativity came from their own in-group. They made the choice to maintain radio silence as all of this was going on.
Whether on twitter or instagram or tumblr, whether it came from the racist fanboy collective or the angry FR/FP shippers, people made the choice to prioritize their own collection of online social capital over Kelly Marie Tran’s basic dignity and humanity.
This was not an inevitability. This was a choice, made by hundreds if not thousands of people, and it was the wrong one, and now we have people acting like the correct choice was “harass Rian Johnson/Adam Driver/Kathleen Kennedy instead.” It wasn’t. The correct choice was actually “don’t fucking harass people.”
Star Wars is fictional. Even if it matters a whole lot to you. Even if you felt crushed by TLJ. It’s still fictional. It’s a fictional story. Kelly Marie Tran is a real person. She’s more important. I don’t know how many times we have to say “Star Wars isn’t more important than real people” before the message gets through.
I hope that at least some of you learn from this.
Kelly Marie Tran as Rose Tico in Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
Star Wars actor Kelly Marie Tran has reportedly deleted all of her posts on Instagram after facing months of harassment from angry fans.
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The FIRST ORDER reigns. Having decimated the peaceful Republic, Supreme Leader Snoke now deploys his merciless legions to seize military control of the galaxy…
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) dir. Rian Johnson
@martianhammock replied to your post “Rogue One is trending on Twitter. Guess people are really disappointed...”
It's okay. It kinda struggles with being itself and tries really hard to cash in on nostalgia in some weird ways but it's not bad.
Good to know! Yeah, it’s funny because so far I haven’t seen anyone saying they hate it. Just lots of people shrugging at it.
Rogue One is trending on Twitter. Guess people are really disappointed by Solo.
TBH I’m kind of disappointed Solo isn’t being well received. I’ve never been excited for Solo and was hoping that it would turn out to be actually awesome.
Mark Hamill understands some of your grievances with Star Wars: The Last Jedi, but not your complaints about how Snoke was handled.
Yeah, that’s definitely a big one where I’m like... I don’t see why anyone cares about Snoke? There was never any backstory they could give him that would live up to the mystery and taking him out the picture sets up a third film that can’t just be a rehash of ROTJ.
It’s pretty clear that it never really mattered who Snoke was. He was a plot device. Someone to be the big bad until Kylo was ready to take his place.
In a polarized world, the next installment in a franchise all about balance and non-attachment will be worshipped, hated, and obsessed about until it's not e...
I was nervous but thought they did a good job of covering the strong and weak points of the film.
George Lucas paid a visit to the set of Solo: A Star Wars Story on Ron Howard's first day, and ended up contributing to a scene.
I actually think the odds of George Lucas directing a Star Wars film or being more officially involved with a film are probably higher than most might think. I don’t know what the odds are, but I think they are way above 0.