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so dark content in fiction "normalizes" crimes irl, but harassing and sending death threats to real people doesn't "normalize" harassment? between me shipping fictional siblings and you threatening to ship me with my actual sibling, between someone writing noncon and you sending them wishes of rape, which one "normalizes" doing more harm?
the word "pedophile" doesn't alarm me anymore.
sounds very bad I know, but it's not like I don't find that in itself alarming!
pedophile is the new "freak" or "loser', it's not taken seriously anymore, it has become just a new word to call people you don't like even when they didn't do anything
yknow the story of the boy who kept yelling "wolf!" to prank the rest of the village, so when an actual wolf came no one listened and he was mauled? that's what that is.
by reducing such a serious issue to "erhm i dont like this person or their content so they must like kids!", you're actually harming victims and making it harder for them to be taken seriously
literally the exact fucking reason i didn't take the dude accusing me of supporting pedophilia/incest seriously. it is shocking how telling people "dont tell others to kill themselves over fandom (or in general)" will lead to you being accused of either being a pedophile (what they mean is groomer by the fucking way, they cant even get the actual term right) or "supporting" pedophilia
people act like pedophilia is so big and scary, but what's scarier to me is having the balls of steel to accuse someone of being a pedophile because "how DARE you make me uncomfortable?!". You're literally trying to ruin someone's reputation because they made your skin crawl. Not because they hurt you.
Iām sorry friends, but ājust google itā is no longer viable advice. What are we even telling people to do anymore, go try to google useful info and the first three pages are just ads for products that might be the exact opposite of what the person is trying to find but The Algorithm thinks the words are related enough? And if itās not ads itās just sponsored websites filled with listicles, just pages and pages of āTOP FIFTEEN [thing you googled] IMAGINED AS DISNEY PRINCESSESā like⦠what are we even doing anymore, google? I can no longer use you as shorthand for people doing real and actual helpful research on their own.
Time to drop some links again.
ā https://searchmysite.net/ Search engine for the indie web, personal websites, digital gardens. You can also find them in websites like Neocities, Indieweb, Blogarama, and write.as. There is also a big list of personal websites.
ā https://search.marginalia.nu/ Search engine that focuses on non-commercial content, and promotes websites that arenāt usually at the top of the list.
ā https://www.worldcat.org/ Search engine for items in libraries (books, but also maps, articles, sound recordings, theses, etc.)
ā https://scholar.google.com/ Search engine for scientific papers, reviews, etc. Itās still google, but a lot better than the normal search engine counterpart.
ā https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines A list of search engines sorted by subject, area, and more. If youāre searching on a specific area, it might be worth checking if there is one focused on that area.
ā https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_databases_and_search_engines A list of academic databases and search engines.
ā https://tineye.com/ Reverse image search alternative to Googleās. Also, P.S.: Please stop using Google, and start using more privacy focused search engines, like DuckDuckGo or SearchX (opensource; personally havenāt used it yet, but it looks promising for privacy-focused users)
SayingĀ āthis niche, properly tagged, warned, and rated piece of fiction could theoretically hurt someoneā is not a good argument. This properly labeled cookie with the allergen information at the bottom that contains gluten could theoretically harm me very badly, but only if I consume it. Tags are like nutrition labels, and warnings are like allergy information. If you know you have an allergy to something, the logic is to stay away from it. It is the same with fiction. Iām not running through stores yelling at people to take all the products with gluten off the shelves just because it could hurt me. Instead I ignore it and go to the gluten free section and find cookies that are right for me. And if running through a grocery store yelling sounds ridiculous, thatās because it is. Stop doing the same with fiction.
Hey, @evilwriter37
Iām gonna need to ask you a walnut question for formās sake. Suppose you found a blank bag of very generic-looking whatevers but thereās no clue as to what it is. You ask one of the members of staff what thatās about and they say ` āOh, thatās the John Doe Surprise Special. Mr. Doe has this bad habit of baking at 3am or whenever he canāt sleep. Because itās the middle of the night, he never knows whether heās put in [potential allergen 1, potential allergen 2, potential allergen 3 and/or potential allergen 4].ā What do you do next?
Well, if you have allergies, itās very obvious to not consume the unmarked bag. A rule of thumb for me with allergies (irl) and content warnings is: if I donāt know whatās in it, I donāt eat it. Itās that simple. I donāt know if youāre trying to egg me on or something, but no one is forcing you to āeatā the unmarked bag.
They always seem to use this as some kind of āgotchaā.
Like, pal, you donāt have to eat the unlabeled food, and you donāt have to read the unlabeled fic.
Youāre not in a situation where you will starve and die if you donāt eat (read) the unlabeled food (fic).
You donāt actually need fic to live at all. You would be just fine if nobody labeled their fic.
If somethingās unlabeled you can accept the risk to read it or you can do whatās healthy for you and not read it.
hey sorry if this isnt true i forgot exactly where i read it but this person should be brutalised and subjected to some of the most horrific acts of cruelty humanity has ever seen. it might be nothing though i might have the people mixed up
wow i didn't know this. i always thought they should be unpersoned though. spreading this so that others can be informed + to protect minors
Damn, I already had a feeling about them since... Iām not sure when. Their fashion sense really threw me off and I hated their takes on video games. Iām glad that my impulse to find out their identity, uproot their career, and destroy their life was justified after all, at least based on what I can remember!
Your DNI is not a boundary, it's performative list of what makes you angry and disgusted. You put it out there and expect absolutely everyone to read it like it's law.
Setting a boundary would be blocking someone yourself. Your DNI is not a boundary. Get over yourself and act like adult
People know that the whole "don't portray [harmful action] because viewers might recreate it" thing is a rule for children's shows right? It's supposed to be shit like "don't show peppa pig playing with fire so we don't get sued if a kid watches it and burns their house down." Not like, fanfiction for adults.
prev i hope u dont mind me sharing ur tags bc yeah this is an interesting add on
Periodic reminder that Archive of Our Own was created to be a repository for all written fanworks without regard to inherent worth, morality, ethicality, artistic merit, or intelligibility. As long as the posting of the work does not violate US law, falls within fair use standards, and does not directly harass individuals, it can be posted on Archive of Our Own.
Efforts to further limit the scope of what can be posted and stored on Archive of Our Own will fail, because Archive of Our Own is a repository much like the internet or the Library of Congress pre-21st century (back when it kept a copy of every publication printed in the United States). As long as you are able to find objectionable material on the internet or in a library, you will be able to find objectionable material in Archive of Our Own.
People get upset with the lack of moderation on Archive of Our Own because they view it as "the place to go to read fanfic." But when it was created, there was no goal for Archive of Our Own to be a destination fanfic reading website. Most people who first used it would publish on other sites (LiveJournal, fanfic.net, message boards, and various fandom-specific sites) to be read and commented on, and add a backup copy to Archive of Our Own so that it would be preserved in case it was ever removed from the original website/the original website went down. In other words, it was used as an archive, just like in the name.
AO3 can still be used this way! You can do your primary fanfic reading and writing on other sites, then back up your own works to AO3 for safekeeping.
Even better, if you object to the content that you find on AO3 and don't want to use it to find fanfic, or don't want to post there because you feel that posting there would be tantamount to endorsing AO3's mission, Archive of Our Own will hand you the tools you need to create your own site with more restrictive guidelines!
How? The software Archive of Our Own runs on is open source and the entire code is posted on github, along with advice for implementation.
Not everyone is comfortable searching for fanfic on Archive of Our Own for fear of encountering triggering or objectionable content. By creating more fanfic sites and repositories with their own focuses and guidelines, we can create the safe spaces in fandom that people are looking for without endangering the archival mission of Archive of Our Own.
I really think everyone needs to truly internalize this:
Fictional characters are objects.
They are not people. You cannot "objectify" them, because they have no personhood to be deprived of. They have no humanity to be erased. You cannot "disrespect" them, because they are not real.
I know this has good intentions, so I will just add the "how you treat them, even as objects of fiction, can speak about your own character, be careful out there"
Your addition is actually completely antithetical to my message. It is literally the opposite of what I am conveying.
Stop telling people to encourage the cop inside their head.
How you treat fictional characters, given they are entirely objects of fiction, does NOT necessarily speak to your own character, and you do not need to be "careful".
It is not dangerous to imagine dark things happening to fictional characters. It does not mean you are secretly a bad person. It does not mean you unconsciously want to hurt people in real life. It is not a "slippery slope" to doing bad things to people in real life. You cannot damage your brain or turn yourself into a bad person by consuming "dark" fanfic.
I can write tentacle noncon of my favorite character all day long and be a fierce anti-sexual assault advocate in real life because what I do in my head is not the same thing as what I do in real life.
These tags were too perfect to not include
I get the points being made but y'all are also sounding dangerously close to the "shipping children with adults is okay because they're fictional and it doesn't affect reality!" crowd which is... Not it.
Does fiction affect reality? Yeah. But "fiction affects reality" does not directly translate to "shipping these two characters means the author wants to rape children", nor does it mean "authors of these kinds of stories are only publishing them with the intention of grooming children".
I was groomed as a 15 year old by a 20 year old man without the involvement of underage fic. I didn't even know what fanfic was. He and I met in an anime-themed chatroom and roleplayed as characters from Gundam Wing. Should we ban anime themed chat rooms? Obviously not. What happened to me was entirely on that man's disgusting shoulders.
Oh yeah and by the way: none of the characters are hurt when you ship a fictional child with a fictional adult. Because they are not real people.
" despite this anime being pedophilic, I really enjoyed it"
Well. that say a lot about your morality, this anime is pedophilic (by your standards) but you watched it anyway. Doesn't that mean you don't care about child abuse as long as it entertains you? Are you the GOOD and SAFE person to be around children?
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"i want more media with zero drama, no tension, and zero problematic characters and i am not joking"
Great! Here are my recommendations:
@snoopyisbisexual I'm sorry you had to find out this way
Like why would I waste my time inventing new bullshit when there's already bullshit in abundance
If you ask an anti what āproshipā means, it will change drastically depending on the anti you ask
But you ask a proshipper what āproshipā means, they will give you a consistent answer, no matter what proshipper you ask
Whoās a more reliable source here?
Reminder-!
You can be a proshipper and not like problematic/tabbo content.
You can be a proshipper and not like a ship, thatās perfectly fine.
You donāt even have to ship to be a proshipper.
You are a proshipper as long as you arenāt harassing others for there ships! And thatās totally vaild! <3
(Antis please dni unless you are kind.)
yes! i do like [problematic thing]! and unfortunately i am under no obligation to defend my interests to strangers on the internet. good day and thank you for your time
Antis SHOULDN'T watch series/movies or read books, because that's literally stalking fucking people. š
You are literally watching the character PERSONAL stuff and LIFE without their consent, most of these "characters" that represent real people of course, are KIDS AND 100 YEAR OLD DEMON CHARACTERS WHO HAVE THE FACE OF A 10 YEAR OLD GIRLSSS, and they DON'T KNOW you're there.
That's just pedo behavior frfr. ššš
Like, that's so fucking twisted bro, ew. š