✨Live & Let ship✨

Discourse blog. Read my pinned post for more info. Gif by @/foreverfandom50-50

[sals-sonic]

Hello, welcome to my discourse blog!

You can call me Blue, B, Blur, whatever you like! I'm an adult and they/them pronouns will do just fine for me, thank you.

I finally decided to stop lurking the proship tag and actually make a blog to dump my thoughts and reblog proship positivity and various discourse. I'm not a native English speaker so please excuse me if I word things weirdly.

My ask box is open, but anon will never be on. Some antis take advantage of anonymity to send death threats and insults, and I'm not willing to put up with that. Also, please don't come into my inbox if you expect me to tell you how to solve your personal drama or internet squabbles. And on this note, please, do not treat me as an authority figure on anything. I am not here to tell you what you should think or do. Just to offer an opinion at best.

This blog is:

- proship/profic (for antis with no reading comprehension: the "pro" does not stand for "problematic", but for "in favour of". Proship is a stance that has to do with refusing to harass people for what they ship, not with the nature of the ship itself. Profiction applies this same line of thinking to fiction is general. Therefore, you aren't obligated to like problematic content to be proship or profic, it's all about whether you harass people over fiction or not)

- pro sex workers

- pro kink

- pro paraphilia (as for paraphilias that are non-consensual in regards to real people or animals, this blog is okay with them on the basis that they remain strictly no contact and fictional/imaginary)

- pro AO3

- anti censorship

- anti harassment

I'm uncomfortable with minors following this blog. If by any chance a minor does follow me, I'll block them as soon as I notice. If the blog is ageless I'll assume the user is not a minor and that they've read my pinned post, though I kindly invite minors to unfollow. This is unrelated to whether they are proshippers or not, it's just a personal boundary.

Antis, exclusionists, racists, radfems/terfs/tirfs/swerfs, radqueers and tradfems/prolife will be blocked. To prevent harassment, hate will be ignored and deleted, at best pointed and laughed at.

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

[deaddovearchives]

Raise your hand if you've ever had someone assume something about your real life morals based on your taste in fiction

Wow thats a lot of hands

[damnfandomproblems]

Fandom Problem #15,938:

At the end of the day, people need to realize that Fandom and the Fanwork space in particular is a POTLUCK. Not a restaurant, and certainly not your personal chef. Don't like what's on offer? Cook your own dish and bring it, then. Whining that the food here is not to your liking just makes you look like an entitled ass.

[your-fav-is-anticensorship]

Sonic the hedgehog!

SONIC IS ANTICENSORSHIP

[this-is-antikink]

Having non kinky people force themselves into kink spaces and then act like they're being forced to see it at gunpoint, is funny (funny to ME but likely not to others) but also infuriating...

"Eww y'all are disgusting!" "Hand me the bleach" "Y'all are degenerates" "How do people like this?" "This is wrong." Motherfucker, you come into MY HOUSE uninvited while the door was locked, and then have the audacity to insult MY FURNITURE?

this is antikink, and degenerate is a word that nobody should be using.

[eddiesheep]

"It's weird" Is not a real fucking argument.

[artistformerlyknownasbutttrumpet]

i was training a young person at work, and she referred to sexual assault as "SA" out loud, and i immediately was like, "no, it's sexual assault, call it what it is," bc idgaf if the algorithm overlords have taught y'all that you should fear direct language, how tf do any of you expect to ever address real issues with any amount of seriousness if you can't even say the words? imagine an advocate looking a sexual assault survivor in the eyes and asking "did he grape you?" it's absolutely fucking absurd, but these young interns and new hires are coming into an environment where we deal with survivors of all different kinds of abuse, and they're coming with the mindset that the words are as bad as the actions, and that makes them shitty at the job and look juvenile af

i HATE self-censorship for a lot of reasons, but being in crisis work makes it even more frustrating. who are you censoring for? like i am being so fr, WHO are you censoring for? have you even thought it through? people who have been raped know that they have been raped. if someone attempts suicide or is grieving someone who did, saying "sewer slide" isn't going to protect them from any of the feelings. a murder victim's family isn't going to feel better bc you said "unalived" instead of murdered. if anything, it's just extremely invalidating and othering. it's saying "what happened to you is so bad that i won't even say the word," which is NOT trauma-informed care. you are not protecting survivors/victims when you self-censor. the ONLY things you protect when you self-censor are the puritanical ideologies that are being encouraged by rich fascists who want your money and obedience

say the fucking words, guys. just say the goddamn words before i go insane!!!

[parakeet]

the youtube comments section rediscovering the simply joys of just doing things because you find them fun

[sals-sonic]

Unrelated but if there had to be an antiship version of my blog, I hope they would at least be creative enough to call themselves antiship-scourge or something of the sort

Even tho let's be real not even scourge would give a fuck about fiction or let anyone tell him what do to lol

[proship-froggo]

since you're looking for asks, here's something occupying my mind right now:

last night, I received an anon message that said, "you guys want to be oppressed so bad" on my proship-selfship blog and I can't stop thinking about it because it's so stupid, like, who said we "want" to be oppressed, let alone feel like we are oppressed??? I've never seen a proshipper say anything of that nature, lol

the reason we make "safe" spaces for ourselves is because everything is overrun by antis harassing us nowadays, so we are more or less forced to make our own spaces just so we can exist in peace, but that doesn't equal oppression or whatever, it's just annoying (<- I suspect they may refer to us making our own spaces constantly, that's why I'm saying this)

I know most of these anons just send the same message to several blogs in the hopes of getting some sort of reaction, but I'm just so bewildered by the statement itself, lmfao (I immediately blocked the sender, like always, I'm not giving them that satisfaction, but yeah)

Oooof, yeah. I came across posts saying exactly that as well.

"You wanna be oppressed SO BAD!!" I've never seen someone around here saying that.

It's also very telling how antis have the habit of sending the very same ask to multiple people, hoping for a reaction. I had many of those in my inbox as well.

It's always "EW YOU PEDOSHITTERS BETTER STAY AWAY FROM US!" but then they go around seeking attention like that. Make it make sense.

[seraphtrevs]

The thing is that sex scenes actually are incredible ways to explore character. People are at their most vulnerable during sex! The way they have sex says a lot of very interesting things about their desires, obviously, but also their psychology, their vulnerabilities, their hopes and fears, etc. It is completely insane to me to think that sex scenes have no value other than to sexually excite the audience. And even if their only value is to sexual excite the audience - SO WHAT?? A movie is supposed to excite and entertain you! Grow up!!!

[galileosballs]

Let's say I really wanted to reduce the number of children who die in car accidents. Car accidents are really bad, right? Nobody disagrees about that. And it would be much better for both the environment and the kids' health if they spent more time walking, or taking the bus. Perfectly reasonable. More cars off the road, safer roads, fewer kids getting hurt, healthier kids. A win-win!

Therefore, let's ban children from traveling by car and require all cars to have a scanner on the door that scans the government ID of everyone who gets in the car to make sure no kids are in there. After all, kids get hurt in car accidents all the time! We need to ban this right away!

[proshippers-against-censorship]

not pointing out who for obvious reasons, but while scrolling through a character x reader tag saw a post saying how those who write about dark/ taboo topics are the reasons why fandom spaces have such negative reputations and how they're weirdos.

the entitlement 🙄

as if published works, FAMOUS published works mind don't already have such themes. yet you don't see anyone whining about how that 'ruined the genre of literature'.

people really need to re-learn the titular "don't like, don't read" rhetoric. and blocking is free as well.

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[joycomplexx]

Hi Ashley! I’ve been seeing a phenomenon on TikTok in regards to proshipping, fandom etiquette, and fandom culture and I want to ask your opinion on it since you are a proshipper of color

I see a lot of people of all different races saying that stuff like fandom etiquette and proshipping are “white” and joke that white people are so protective over it because it’s the only culture they have, they say that fandom culture is just 30 year old white people writing “icky gross incest lolicon fanfiction” who ignore racism in fandom and crying oppression when people think their fics are gross. As a white person I definitely agree that racism in fandom culture needs to be addressed and called out but again the idea that fandom culture and proshipping as a whole is “inherently” white feels very noble savagey and makes it seem like POC are incapable of being “gross” or having “icky” kinks or fetishes

Again I just wish to know your thoughts on this but TikTok is honestly a cestpool of crazy opinions if I’m being honest

Thank you!

Ohhhh, I've talked about this at length, and this phenomenon is rooted in racism. Specifically a kind of racism called "benevolent racism". This is similar to benevolent sexism (in which women are seen as pure, nonsexual, and delicate, unable to commit any violence). The "noble savage" stereotype is often a big part of this form of racism.

It goes that people of color, usually black or indigenous, are "untouched" by modern civilization. That they're more connected to nature, more spiritually pure, etc. It often is used to distance people of color from the modern lived experience, acting like their cultures are stuck in the past.

This kind of racism extends into fandom spaces. People of color are seen as "too good" for shipping, fandom activities, and kink, especially if anything taboo is related. Those things are seen as modern, western "degeneracy" (the whole "the west is falling because yxz is also Nazi rhetoric) which the noble and pure people of color couldn't be involved in. It is a form of fetishizing that treats people of color as idealized objects or props, rather than normal people living in the modern age like all the rest of us.

It is true that racism is common in fandom spaces, and needs to be called out, but this kind of racism needs to be called out too. And they often go hand in hand. The more people of color are told that they're too "good" for fandom, the more likely they are to be pushed out of the community, and without a thriving population of nonwhite people in a fandom, racism will proliferate unchecked. And then, due to this racism, more people of color will be unlikely to join the fandom, creating a downward spiral.

[throesofincreasingwonder]

Also sometimes the purpose of a sex scene is to be titillating and that's, like, fine. You wouldn't go out there and argue that movies shouldn't have jokes unless they "serve a narrative purpose" because you understand that generally the purpose of a joke is to make the audience laugh and perhaps release some tension. Being horny is a normal human emotion like being amused or being scared and sometimes media is trying to evoke that particular emotion; the artist doesn't owe you a 30-page double-spaced justification for trying to make you feel something through their art. Your separation of horniness and sex from other emotions and experiences is sex negative and deeply ingrained in cultural conservatism.

[sals-sonic]

“I'm anti-proship and anti censorship! Yes we exist, we have nuance!”

So let me get this straight, you support banning and harassing anyone who enjoys a ship you dislike or (god forbid) writes or draws anything that offends your sensibilities, yet simultaneously you are supposed to be pro literary freedom and against the suppression of artistic voices, no matter what and whose those may be?

I'm sorry to tell you but picking and choosing what art can or cannot be censored doesn't make you anti censorship. It just makes you a hypocrite.