Katy B's excellent new album Honey is out today; I talked to her and most of her collaborators about making it for The Fader. This piece went up a few months ago, when the album was originally going to drop; a ton of extra quotes got cut for length, and I'm just going to put them here. I also reviewed the album for The National: http://www.thenational.ae/arts-life/the-review/album-review-life-is-sweet-for-katy-b. HONEY KATY B: I wanted to do something in the vein of the Danger EP, so it started off like that - I wrote a long, long list of the artists I wanted to work with, we put the feelers out - and loads of people got back! So it was growing and growing and we realised we had enough tunes to make a mixtape - but then we thought, we're doing it an injustice calling it a mixtape. GEENEUS: Pretty soon after Little Red, we decided to go down this road. The last album was more complicated than we'd wanted. I'd done a lot of the work but we'd worked with pop producers like Guy Chambers, and she'd done a lot of sessions over that time where she wasn't really connecting musically with people. So, it was like...we started her whole career doing club stuff, so why don't we just go round and get all the producers from that scene and celebrate them as well? Show that the underground stuff can stand up. You don't need a big pop producer to make a big pop record - that's something we've come across on our own. KATY B: I wanted the producers to have a lot of the limelight as well. I definitely wanted to make it as wide-ranging as possible - that's kind of how I started off, going from house to dubstep to drum'n'bass. I don't think I have a specific sound as Katy B - I just like to sing on what I like! We did about 40 to 50 songs in total, and there were loads I was gutted we couldn't use. GEENEUS: What I find is that generally people have goodwill towards Katy when you ask them to do something for her, because she comes across as a genuinely nice person and they know she always gravitates towards music that's actually good. People tend to want to give their best. 1. Katy B x Kaytranada - "Honey" KATY B: I started listening to Kaytranada a lot on my last tour before going on stage - I get so nervous before performing and I like to have soothing music, but I need something to hype me up as well. And in the dance sessions I do with my choreographer a couple of times a week, he's our favourite to dance to. 2. Katy B x Craig David x Major Lazer - "Who Am I?" KATY B: I recorded a few songs with Craig about a year and a half ago, before any of his comeback stuff happened - I remember we did some ballads, but then I was like, the people want to hear you do garage again. You need to get back on that tip. We wrote a song where the setting was definitely a garage club, everyone acting a bit bougie. And he came back not long ago to add his bit to "Who Am I?" - I wanted a man on it. When he got in the studio it was like old times - those riffs, those harmonies. Everyone's rooting for him now. 4. Katy B x Sasha Keable x JD Reid - "Chase Me" KATY B: You think we sound like a girl group? I'd absolutely love to be in a girl group with Sasha! She's so talented, her voice is one of the best around. Years ago my friend showed me her music and I thought she was really amazing, and then she supported me on tour last year, and now she lives with one of my friends. When I decided I wanted a girl on this track, it was like, definitely Sash. SASHA KEABLE: It's not just a ~work relationship~, she's my girl. We're both from South London - I'm from Eltham, then I moved to Wandsworth - so we share the same values, we grew up in the same way around the same type of music, went through the same cringey trends. Music was the main thing we bonded over - well, and our love of drinking and partying, haha. 5. Katy B x J Hus x D Double E x HeavyTrackerz - "Lose Your Head" D DOUBLE E: I always see Katy around when we perform and she always says that she's been feeling my vibe and the work I've been doing since back in the day. At Outlook festival in Croatia [in 2014] we were chilling out talking about the scene - it wasn't, like, we have to work together, it was a normal conversation. She was telling me she was in school when she heard certain lyrics of mine, I was telling her how I came up. Probably nine, ten months later it happened - she had the idea and the track. KATY B: I can't believe I've got D Double on one of my songs. Growing up and listening to him - being 15, watching Channel U, especially The Streets' "Get Out Of My House (Remix)" and Newham Generals' "Hard". G.TANK (HEAVYTRACKERZ): Rinse were really selective when they approached us - Katy was looking for real hardcore tunes to sing over. I didn't think she was gonna pick that beat but when I found out I kind of had an idea of how it would work - we've heard the funky house and the dubstep, but we hadn't heard her do anything like it before. When we made the beat originally it was more MC-orientated, we had the Section Boyz on it but ended up doing something else with them, and she picked it up. We hadn't looked at the beat like that, that's where the surprise came from. She sings with a real swagger on it. D DOUBLE E: I knew she was versatile, a lot more than people think. When we performed the track at Ministry of Sound on Boxing Day, it was live on Rinse and someone asked me who was singing, they didn't even recognise her voice. KATY B: I feel so gassed when I hear myself singing in the third person! But I got so embarrassed recording it. I was like, "Don't judge me!" to my engineer. I had to turn all the lights off. RASEYE (HEAVYTRACKERZ): The beat wasn't specific for Katy, the criteria just fitted with what we were making. Trying to adjust to artists isn't really our style - we give it to you and you see what you can do with it. KATY B: For a lot of the album, I took a lot of the pressure of going into the studio with producers off myself, and I realised how much I enjoy writing that way. It's really awkward sometimes going into a studio with someone you don't know that well - you're being overly polite, or if you're not you might offend someone. And in the past producers have told me what to do vocally, which is really annoying. I really relish the opportunity for someone to make something exactly how they want it and for me to be, yeah, I'll have that, and to make my own vocal, do my own thing. KATY B: R&G was such a massive influence on me, and it was really inspiring - like, this is something I could do. I knew DaVinChe lived in Sydenham on my friend's road, I put all my demos on a CD for her to give to him. She put it through his letterbox but he never got back to me. When I first started working with Rinse they gave me Scratcha's Voice of Grime CD as inspiration for the first album, I completely rinsed it. We've got to bring R&G back, man. 8. Katy B x Mr Mitch - "Heavy" KATY B: The pre-chorus has my favourite lyric on the album: "You manipulate my mind 'til it's twisted, but my body, you stay jolly cuz I'm granting all your wishes." And I refer to "The Cure And The Cause" deliberately - I remember looking at the lyrics for it and having a real moment, I learned how to write from songs like that. I sing about being lonely in the city - some of my friends will complain about their boyfriends to me and say, he's a dickhead, he's a prick. I'm like, why are you still with him? It's because no one wants to be alone. Especially in grey London. What else have I got? To go and watch fucking EastEnders or something on my own? Which is even greyer than everything else? I'd rather have a flirt. 10. Katy B x Kate Simko x Jamie Jones - "Dark Delirium" KATY B: I knew of Jamie through all those house tunes back in the day that absolutely smashed it, so I was fangirling a bit when he said he'd work with me. When I went to the studio, Kate was there as well - I wasn't prepared for that. But it's funny because she put on a show at Shoreditch House with live strings (http://www.thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-films/watch-electronic-composer-kate-simkos-symphonic-performance-in-east-london/) maybe two weeks previously - I remember looking her up and listening to all her music on Spotify. KATE SIMKO: Jamie and I had just done a track together with the London Electronic Orchestra,"One Time Game", and we had already decided to get in the studio together with the orchestra and make another. We wanted a really strong vocalist, and the opportunity to work with Katy came about. When I learned we were going to be working with her, Jamie sent me a couple of tracks he liked and I ended up listening to On A Mission a lot - I was really nerdy, I wanted the sheet music so I could see what chords they used, how she structured her songs. But yeah, she didn't know, it was a surprise to her, but it was really cool. She came up with all the lyrics on the spot. We filled in a lot of the percussion later - it was just a temporary beat with a lot of orchestral stuff, just a sketch, but she nailed it right away. JAMIE JONES: I really liked the darkness of the lyrics - it fit in with our vibe a bit more. I mainly worked on the drums and the bass - we wrote a bassline which she wrote lyrics to, but going back I felt it needed to be even darker to fit the lyrics. Originally it was a funky, deep house kind of bassline and afterwards it changed to a more sustained bass. 12. Katy B x Hannah Wants - "Dreamerz" KATY B: I remember seeing her at Outlook in 2014 and loving her set so much, I thought she was so sick. Then I was out in Birmingham during Gay Pride last year at a place called Chic, it's one of my favourite clubs, and she was in there with all her friends. I remember being nervous - oh my god, that's Hannah Wants over there - and not knowing what to do. Shit, should I say hello? Or not say hello? And then someone was taking a photo of her and wanted a photo of me and we were talking, and she was really lovely. She got up on the decks and started playing and all her friends were around, and I loved the way she walked around with loads of girls. Me and my friends were going to go on to another club and her manager was like, can we come with you? And we ended up having this really sick night out. It was one of the best nights out I had last year. I was telling her about this project and saying we had to work together - she sent me this beat and I loved it straight away. HANNAH WANTS: Hahaha, that was such a crazy and amazing night! We bumped into each other randomly in Chic and just hit it off straight away. She’s honestly one of the nicest, most genuine people I’ve ever met. We had a very long (haha!) and very amazing night partying and chatting. We went to about three different clubs and just bonded over literally everything! Life, music, we just connected. KATY B: I wanted to write something about being with my core group of friends. I've got a really strong group of friends, we are ride or die for each other, and if we ever have a problem there's such a supportive group of people. Especially with what I do, I know I can go there and feel completely rooted. This song is for them - and for Hannah and her friends, too. I had such a lovely time with them and they were such wicked people, and I just felt that we were the dreamers. Going out to clubs, we're not trying to impress anyone else. That's all I want from life - to have good people around me who love me. To feel stronger as a unit. That's what we feel life is about. To want the best for everyone. HANNAH WANTS: A small and strong friendship circle is absolutely key in this industry. In fact mine’s not a circle, it’s a triangle. There are three of us and I’m honestly happy about that. In a crazy industry - and world, in fact - where true friendship and loyalty are rare, you’ve gotta learn what’s real and what’s not. Spend and enjoy your time with people who will invest as much good into your life as you will them. With "Dreamerz", I just wanted to create a slightly different vibe from my usual kinda dancefloor-directed music. This track’s a little slower and has that happy, summery vibe - Katy complemented it perfectly with her vocal. KATY B: Geeneus hated the line about sixty days of summer. He said it's too cheesy, take it out. So I did, but then I missed it, I just wanted to sing it! One of my friends did a season in Ibiza and she was talking about how coming back to London and reality was hard after being in a world where nothing mattered and it was always sunny. It made me think of how we get this one summer every year, we save up all our money to be carefree. How can we make that last? Of course, in Britain we don't even have sixty days. Three weeks, that's it. 13. Katy B x Novelist x Geeneus - "Honey Outro" GEENEUS: Katy really does care about club music - she's not one of these artists that jump on a club song to get a bit of attention as a feature, then jump off and go and do something else. You see that a lot in this country - let's get a singer on the current-sounding music, launch their career and when they've taken off put them on something dry. It's so boring. And a lot of them don't even succeed. They think you have to get out of this - what we are - to get to bigger things, but it's not true. But if Katy didn't chart again I don't think she'd care, she just wants to do the music she likes. In the poem she explains she's grown up raving, she still raves, she comes from the small clubs, she's seen it when there was no connection between underground and mainstream. KATY B: The original version used a Ruff Sqwad sample, "Together". I'm really gutted we couldn't use it, but we had a deadline of, like, one day. GEENEUS: I thought about it quite a lot because of the Ruff Sqwad thing, and the "Message In A Bottle" connection about communication, it was all great - but there was an issue with the sample. It was a bit upsetting but we had to adjust. I found it really difficult - when I make something I'm really bad with the detail. That's why I did all the additional production. It took me a minute to get my head around having to change it, but we did it.