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She's just going home... đ
"We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love and then we return home."
Oh my God.
youre anti gov but not anti monarchy?
Iâm anti-imperialist but this doesnât stop me from finding interesting people like Churchill or George V.
So if you dont support imperialism how can you support and glorify a family that has done that continually and has made its enourmous fortune by doing exactly that?
Imperialism nowadays is not due to any royal family. So my issue as a person of the 21st century is with the US governments for example (any government).Â
Also Iâm not glorifying anyone.
you support imperialism?
No.
what about the occupation of india for all those years? you dont think thats racist?
No. Thatâs imperialism. They wanted the sources India had. Ideally they would want the sources from all around the world. They had Cyprus for examples. They are whites. Malta as well, etc. This is imperialism. Itâs just that there are other reason for them to have India rather than Russia instead for example.
I'm really sorry for the influx of negative messages you are getting. I understand that some people love the royals, some people hate them, some people are indifferent, etc. But that doesn't give them the right to send anonymous hate to you.
Just because you do not like something, doesn't mean everyone else should dislike it too. Wish people knew that!
I really love your content and hearing your thoughts and opinions on everything! Have a great day!!
Thank you for your message! Thereâs hate everywhere in the world right now. People seem to love to hate. They believe their opinion is the absolute truth and they donât understand that this may be not right. I donât say that someone has to love BRF. I find them interesting and there are members I like and members I donât.
But nowadays you can say anything and get hate from âI am a Christian/Muslim/atheistâ to âI like Britney Spears.â :P.
why are you asking for more of an explanation, theres posts on your page that explain why she's racist.
No they donât. They link the Queen, a child at the moment, to Nazi Germany due to salute that her uncle and mother made her do but I cannot see other proofs that the Queen is racist.
the queen is racist
Because?
âawful homestuck phaseâ âproblematic superwholock phaseâ âembarassing harry potter phaseâ âtoxic marvel phaseâ shut up everyone shut the hell up, weâre unionising and cyberbullying the monarchy fandom. no more ship wars no more headcanon discourse no more fandom infighting only publicly humiliating colonial fetishists from now on
Good God don't waste your time with that claireee person. "I didn't do the nazi salute as a kid cause my parents are not racist" I'm sorry, was claireeee a kid BEFORE WWII? What a ridiculous comparison. Also Philip FOUGHT FOR THE ALLIES. What a bunch of nonsense, knowledge of history my ass.
I know, but I donât know the background of the person. Nor their age nor their knowledge background. I try to understand what they think.
unfortunately i cant send links over ask but id be happy to send it on message if youd let me but one of their cousins WAS a nazi....PLUS the duke and duchess of windsor were massive nazi supporters and theres a 1933 video of the queen doing a nazi solute.
Do you think that I would like both the RF and the Windsors? Queenâs salute was a kid so it was her motherâs and uncleâs false and even though IT IS bad now try to put it in context for 1933. Also Philipâs sisters were married to Nazis as far as I remember (at least one of them), however I donât think that makes Philip a Nazi. Since he fought on the allies side.
anyways this proves my point that the royal family is RAMPANT with nazis and nazi supporters, also i never did nazi salutes when i was a kid bc my parents werent racist and im not in a racist family, one of the many things the queen and i dont have in common.Â
also i havent even addressed the pedophelia and incest
theyre literally all inbred lmao
They are not Nazi supporters, they were literally on the opposite side.
do u think the royal family chose what side england was on?? WW2 happened bc of all the residual alliances from WW1...england basically saw germany conquering a bunch of countries they were in alliances with. just bc england faught against germany doesnt mean the queen isnt racist, there is so much proof of them doing racist things, being married to nazis and protecting a literal pedophile.
ik if we found a pedophile in my family we would stop talking to them, theyd be cut out. if my sister married a nazi id stop talking to her.
They didnât talk to Philipâs sisters or Windsors. If your brother/sister was a pedophile, are you sure that both your mother and father would stop talk to them? Itâs easy to say something but for a parent is not always easy. I hope that behind closed doors she has made clear her views on his case.Â
BRF was very much present during British Empireâs wars. Please search a bit more about it.
oh my god a hundred percent, my family did have a pedophile in it and we all stopped talking to him. that son of a bitch died alone and he deserved that. you hope she made that clear but shes a huge public figure head, isnt it important she at least sets an example for the rest of her country? if shes not even doing the bare minimum of setting an example, why do my taxes pay for her meals, cars, jewelry, clothes? like what is she even doing?
i actually know a l;ot about history and WW2 and i know exactly how much they were involved and what their motives were, i can assure you they didnt give a rats ass about the ppl who suffered in that war and made it VERY clear that POC soldiers (mainly indian soldiers) were to be on the front lines bc in their eyes the lives of those people were not important. yet ANOTHER display of racism. also is there proof that the royal family cut off the sisters? that just seems like a baseless claim?
His parents did well if they left him to die alone. She should do it, I agree but again do you think she should condemn him without court decision?
Philip didnât talk talk to his family. He had a soft spot for his mother but thatâs all.
yes absolutely she should condem him. my original questions still stands, how can you justify her protecting a pedophile from the press?
How can she protect him from the Press. In my eyes, is just that the Press doesnât do its job well. Why donât you accuse them instead?
âWaity Kaitieâ is not just rude. Itâs pure sexism.
Meghan made strong and right points on racism but she cannot undermine sexism this way.
I guess thatâs why she asked them to cut it.
Like, yeah, Waity Katie does have some sexist undertones but at the end of the day you cannot compare it to racist abuse because it does not dehumanize you on the same level. Waity Katie at least bases itself on Kateâs actions, be it real or imagined, the nickname stems from Kate waiting around for William to pop the question. Saying Meghan is âStraight outta Comptonâ is based off of racial stereotypes. Nothing more. Thatâs not undermining anything. Things can be wrong on varying levels.
And for the love of God, look up the term Misogynoir. Because Black women are also victims of sexism, believe it or not.
Obviously black women are victims of misogynism. And plus racism. They have not only my respect but also sympathy, and I have to be grateful I am not in their place. This is the reason I didnât want to believe that Meghan made this argument.
Also itâs simply sexist and you cannot put BUT or HOWEVER. For all I know it can be that Kate didnât want to marry him earlier and Will waited for her to say yes. You donât know what happens between couples. And to make women look less because the man is a Prince or a rich guy simply make misogynism in the world worse and more powerful.
âWaity Kaitieâ is not just rude. Itâs pure sexism.
Meghan made strong and right points on racism but she cannot undermine sexism this way.
I guess thatâs why she asked them to cut it.
Kate being called âwaity Katieâ isnât sexist because it had nothing to do with her being a woman, but her actions. William was dubbed âworkshy willyâ for the exact same thing.
Can you imagine?Not only âWaitie Katie thingâ is not remotely close to how Meghan is treated by the racist, xenophobic, classist, misogynistic widely read uk press, but , in the same tone, the separate clip is thought to be Meghanâs request to be cut????.Nothing was hidden .All the clips were shown on the channel the following day, by the way.
(Note:One phrase with âyes⊠but âŠâ dragged two women, Meghan and Oprah âŠThe first for telling exactly how she felt, exactly to the point of disturbance (for othersâŠ.) and the other, for doubting her professionalism in doing her job)
Meghan made this reference in an effort to tell us how she was âdealtâ by her environment when she was asking to protect her and to defend her by telling the truth to the pressâŠ.They asked her to swallow it, because others âhad it bad as wellââŠThey told her that the press was ârudeâ to them as wellâŠThey used the termâŠAnd they shared with Meghan the âWaitie Katieâ thing as an exampleâŠ
I choose to believe that Meghan realised her internalized misogyny so she tried to remove it. Obviously the channel wanted out for more woman vs woman as there are women in the world who buy it. Sad. Donât be one of them.Â
Meghan dealt with misogynism among others so she had to understand that âWaity Kaitieâ IS misogynism. Both (Will and Kate) of them werenât married but OF COURSE is the woman that waits. This is misogynism. And you are a victim of internalised misogynism. Work ethic is one and double standards for women and men are another.Â
I choose to believe that Meghan understood the âhurtful impactâ of that but she genuinely thought that it was not the same with what she experienced and with what she had to deal and for why she asked and reasonably expected a protection âŠShe admitted that the social media expanded the impact of (my additions: racist, sexist , classist, extremely biased widely read ) uk tabloid press , which incited racism among people and as a result, she stressed more than once that, the level of risk was increased due to death threatsâŠ.Wow.A minor detailâŠI am sureâŠ
I also choose to believe that she had no say in what Oprah , THE OPRAH , would choose as the main body of the interview , and which equally interesting excerpts she would show the following days, including the painful one regarding her fatherâŠActually the one about Kate, was the most indifferent to me.I had already my opinion on the matter as I lived through both âerasâ and my opinion is stronger than MeghanâsâŠ.They didnât cut them out and bury them.I was able to watch every each of them the following day , through twitter.Immediately.
To accuse Meghan of expressing internalized misogyny for referring to the pathetic excuse they gave her in order to â shut up and deal with it â , is really far fetched.And the woman said she admitted it must have been hurtful âŠThat says a lot about her empathy.
She threw her heart out there and admitted painful situations.I have nothing more to add than I am incredibly happy she got out of the snake nest.
(Historically, the worst crimes and the worst discriminations have been perpetuated because some stayed silent or shrugged off â oh it has been always like thatââŠ)
It was not a âcoolâ discussion about race, sexism , misogyny etc .It was a woman exposing her thoughts, her experiences and the pain.
Try more empathy.
Why her example wasnât a man? I am sure they didnât gave her just Kate as an example.
Yes, the other example would be her husbandâŠThe royal familyâs scapegoat for at least a decade (the biggest part of his early adult life) has been HarryâŠ.It became less of a scape goat through the years, because at some point they couldnât continue to push their narrative to the âpublicâ as his work and impact was coming to light.
So who would dare to name Harry as an example to Meghan âŠ?Lol Can you imagineâŠ
Harry humiliated the RF many times mostly because his racist jokes and Nazi uniform. So he is not some innocent baby that didnât deserve criticism. But yeah I forget that there were people who accused William because an adult Harry wore the Nazi symbol. I hope his wife doesnât agree with that or his Paki comments. I mean I prefer someone who doesnât work much that a person that talks and behaves like that. I hope that now under his wifeâs he will address these issues and wonât blame someone else. Also Harry wasnât workaholic and didnât have any significant impact. Not larger than Willâs. I follow RF for 20 years closely to know that much.
I am sorry you have drown these conclusions after your long time royal watching.It seems that there is no common ground for discussion.Especially if you have not seen any significant impact from Harry, which even their (extremely biased, racist, etc ) press admittedâŠ.Also when you mention that Harry serving for 10 years in the army and having done two tours ( the last as an Apache co pilot) along with his charity activities and royal duties (when asked) is ânot workaholicâŠWell I wouldnât call him workaholic either, but I would say that he has proven something on the work sideâŠ.
Yes he was photographed wearing a fancy costume with the nazi symbol at a colonial themed party along with his brother and their posh friendsâŠAnd his phone was hacked so his voice over of a video was sold to the media where he referred to a fellow soldier as PackiâŠ
But you donât mention that he protected a fellow gay soldier from the abuse and harassment other soldiers were doing on himâŠHe admitted himself in 2008 after he left the army and he said that after Harry intervened they stopped harassing him.It didnât make headlinesâŠIt was Williamâs cover on Attitude which made him a âhero of the LGBTQ community.
I prefer a human who works and acts, contributes, helps , gets passionate, even if he makes mistakes âŠInertia, cowardness, self preservation are not something I look up toâŠ
I can number thousands examples where William have impacted peopleâs lives according to their testimony. But if we will refer to Williamâs negatives we will do it for Harry as well.
And sorry I donât believe that Harry was ever in danger or worked as hard as other people had to do in army (also I am a strong opponent of Iraq and Afghanistan wars) and this was normal as he was a member of BRF. I hope he will use the connections he made as a part of the family he now accuses for good. Thatâs all I can say.
I am a strong opponent of these wars as well, but that comment , if it is to take something away from Harry or anyone being sent there, it is not so okâŠAnd yes he can and he should use ALL that he LEARNED being in the army and as a royal for good.As for the âconnectionsâ ,if they are remotely like his family âŠhe will not need them .By the way he felt let down by his familyâŠIt is not an accusation.It is much deeperâŠThey are indeed hostages of their own image and their (racist, sexist, etc) press.
So let us end it here.
No worries. You made logical arguments and expressed your opinion with kindness and respect. Thank you for the discussion.
âWaity Kaitieâ is not just rude. Itâs pure sexism.
Meghan made strong and right points on racism but she cannot undermine sexism this way.
I guess thatâs why she asked them to cut it.
Kate being called âwaity Katieâ isnât sexist because it had nothing to do with her being a woman, but her actions. William was dubbed âworkshy willyâ for the exact same thing.
Can you imagine?Not only âWaitie Katie thingâ is not remotely close to how Meghan is treated by the racist, xenophobic, classist, misogynistic widely read uk press, but , in the same tone, the separate clip is thought to be Meghanâs request to be cut????.Nothing was hidden .All the clips were shown on the channel the following day, by the way.
(Note:One phrase with âyes⊠but âŠâ dragged two women, Meghan and Oprah âŠThe first for telling exactly how she felt, exactly to the point of disturbance (for othersâŠ.) and the other, for doubting her professionalism in doing her job)
Meghan made this reference in an effort to tell us how she was âdealtâ by her environment when she was asking to protect her and to defend her by telling the truth to the pressâŠ.They asked her to swallow it, because others âhad it bad as wellââŠThey told her that the press was ârudeâ to them as wellâŠThey used the termâŠAnd they shared with Meghan the âWaitie Katieâ thing as an exampleâŠ
I choose to believe that Meghan realised her internalized misogyny so she tried to remove it. Obviously the channel wanted out for more woman vs woman as there are women in the world who buy it. Sad. Donât be one of them.Â
Meghan dealt with misogynism among others so she had to understand that âWaity Kaitieâ IS misogynism. Both (Will and Kate) of them werenât married but OF COURSE is the woman that waits. This is misogynism. And you are a victim of internalised misogynism. Work ethic is one and double standards for women and men are another.Â
I choose to believe that Meghan understood the âhurtful impactâ of that but she genuinely thought that it was not the same with what she experienced and with what she had to deal and for why she asked and reasonably expected a protection âŠShe admitted that the social media expanded the impact of (my additions: racist, sexist , classist, extremely biased widely read ) uk tabloid press , which incited racism among people and as a result, she stressed more than once that, the level of risk was increased due to death threatsâŠ.Wow.A minor detailâŠI am sureâŠ
I also choose to believe that she had no say in what Oprah , THE OPRAH , would choose as the main body of the interview , and which equally interesting excerpts she would show the following days, including the painful one regarding her fatherâŠActually the one about Kate, was the most indifferent to me.I had already my opinion on the matter as I lived through both âerasâ and my opinion is stronger than MeghanâsâŠ.They didnât cut them out and bury them.I was able to watch every each of them the following day , through twitter.Immediately.
To accuse Meghan of expressing internalized misogyny for referring to the pathetic excuse they gave her in order to â shut up and deal with it â , is really far fetched.And the woman said she admitted it must have been hurtful âŠThat says a lot about her empathy.
She threw her heart out there and admitted painful situations.I have nothing more to add than I am incredibly happy she got out of the snake nest.
(Historically, the worst crimes and the worst discriminations have been perpetuated because some stayed silent or shrugged off â oh it has been always like thatââŠ)
It was not a âcoolâ discussion about race, sexism , misogyny etc .It was a woman exposing her thoughts, her experiences and the pain.
Try more empathy.
Why her example wasnât a man? I am sure they didnât gave her just Kate as an example.
Yes, the other example would be her husbandâŠThe royal familyâs scapegoat for at least a decade (the biggest part of his early adult life) has been HarryâŠ.It became less of a scape goat through the years, because at some point they couldnât continue to push their narrative to the âpublicâ as his work and impact was coming to light.
So who would dare to name Harry as an example to Meghan âŠ?Lol Can you imagineâŠ
Harry humiliated the RF many times mostly because his racist jokes and Nazi uniform. So he is not some innocent baby that didnât deserve criticism. But yeah I forget that there were people who accused William because an adult Harry wore the Nazi symbol. I hope his wife doesnât agree with that or his Paki comments. I mean I prefer someone who doesnât work much that a person that talks and behaves like that. I hope that now under his wifeâs he will address these issues and wonât blame someone else. Also Harry wasnât workaholic and didnât have any significant impact. Not larger than Willâs. I follow RF for 20 years closely to know that much.
I am sorry you have drown these conclusions after your long time royal watching.It seems that there is no common ground for discussion.Especially if you have not seen any significant impact from Harry, which even their (extremely biased, racist, etc ) press admittedâŠ.Also when you mention that Harry serving for 10 years in the army and having done two tours ( the last as an Apache co pilot) along with his charity activities and royal duties (when asked) is ânot workaholicâŠWell I wouldnât call him workaholic either, but I would say that he has proven something on the work sideâŠ.
Yes he was photographed wearing a fancy costume with the nazi symbol at a colonial themed party along with his brother and their posh friendsâŠAnd his phone was hacked so his voice over of a video was sold to the media where he referred to a fellow soldier as PackiâŠ
But you donât mention that he protected a fellow gay soldier from the abuse and harassment other soldiers were doing on himâŠHe admitted himself in 2008 after he left the army and he said that after Harry intervened they stopped harassing him.It didnât make headlinesâŠIt was Williamâs cover on Attitude which made him a "hero of the LGBTQ community.
I prefer a human who works and acts, contributes, helps , gets passionate, even if he makes mistakes âŠInertia, cowardness, self preservation are not something I look up toâŠ
I can number thousands examples where William have impacted peopleâs lives according to their testimony. But if we will refer to Williamâs negatives we will do it for Harry as well.
And sorry I donât believe that Harry was ever in danger or worked as hard as other people had to do in army (also I am a strong opponent of Iraq and Afghanistan wars) and this was normal as he was a member of BRF. I hope he will use the connections he made as a part of the family he now accuses for good. Thatâs all I can say.
âWaity Kaitieâ is not just rude. Itâs pure sexism.
Meghan made strong and right points on racism but she cannot undermine sexism this way.
I guess thatâs why she asked them to cut it.
Kate being called âwaity Katieâ isnât sexist because it had nothing to do with her being a woman, but her actions. William was dubbed âworkshy willyâ for the exact same thing.
Can you imagine?Not only âWaitie Katie thingâ is not remotely close to how Meghan is treated by the racist, xenophobic, classist, misogynistic widely read uk press, but , in the same tone, the separate clip is thought to be Meghanâs request to be cut????.Nothing was hidden .All the clips were shown on the channel the following day, by the way.
(Note:One phrase with âyes⊠but âŠâ dragged two women, Meghan and Oprah âŠThe first for telling exactly how she felt, exactly to the point of disturbance (for othersâŠ.) and the other, for doubting her professionalism in doing her job)
Meghan made this reference in an effort to tell us how she was âdealtâ by her environment when she was asking to protect her and to defend her by telling the truth to the pressâŠ.They asked her to swallow it, because others âhad it bad as wellââŠThey told her that the press was ârudeâ to them as wellâŠThey used the termâŠAnd they shared with Meghan the âWaitie Katieâ thing as an exampleâŠ
I choose to believe that Meghan realised her internalized misogyny so she tried to remove it. Obviously the channel wanted out for more woman vs woman as there are women in the world who buy it. Sad. Donât be one of them.Â
Meghan dealt with misogynism among others so she had to understand that âWaity Kaitieâ IS misogynism. Both (Will and Kate) of them werenât married but OF COURSE is the woman that waits. This is misogynism. And you are a victim of internalised misogynism. Work ethic is one and double standards for women and men are another.Â
I choose to believe that Meghan understood the âhurtful impactâ of that but she genuinely thought that it was not the same with what she experienced and with what she had to deal and for why she asked and reasonably expected a protection âŠShe admitted that the social media expanded the impact of (my additions: racist, sexist , classist, extremely biased widely read ) uk tabloid press , which incited racism among people and as a result, she stressed more than once that, the level of risk was increased due to death threatsâŠ.Wow.A minor detailâŠI am sureâŠ
I also choose to believe that she had no say in what Oprah , THE OPRAH , would choose as the main body of the interview , and which equally interesting excerpts she would show the following days, including the painful one regarding her fatherâŠActually the one about Kate, was the most indifferent to me.I had already my opinion on the matter as I lived through both âerasâ and my opinion is stronger than MeghanâsâŠ.They didnât cut them out and bury them.I was able to watch every each of them the following day , through twitter.Immediately.
To accuse Meghan of expressing internalized misogyny for referring to the pathetic excuse they gave her in order to â shut up and deal with it â , is really far fetched.And the woman said she admitted it must have been hurtful âŠThat says a lot about her empathy.
She threw her heart out there and admitted painful situations.I have nothing more to add than I am incredibly happy she got out of the snake nest.
(Historically, the worst crimes and the worst discriminations have been perpetuated because some stayed silent or shrugged off â oh it has been always like thatââŠ)
It was not a âcoolâ discussion about race, sexism , misogyny etc .It was a woman exposing her thoughts, her experiences and the pain.
Try more empathy.
Why her example wasnât a man? I am sure they didnât gave her just Kate as an example.
Yes, the other example would be her husbandâŠThe royal familyâs scapegoat for at least a decade (the biggest part of his early adult life) has been HarryâŠ.It became less of a scape goat through the years, because at some point they couldnât continue to push their narrative to the âpublicâ as his work and impact was coming to light.
So who would dare to name Harry as an example to Meghan âŠ?Lol Can you imagineâŠ
Harry humiliated the RF many times mostly because his racist jokes and Nazi uniform. So he is not some innocent baby that didnât deserve criticism. But yeah I forget that there were people who accused William because an adult Harry wore the Nazi symbol. I hope his wife doesnât agree with that or his Paki comments. I mean I prefer someone who doesnât work much that a person that talks and behaves like that. I hope that now under his wifeâs he will address these issues and wonât blame someone else. Also Harry wasnât workaholic and didnât have any significant impact. Not larger than Willâs. I follow RF for 20 years closely to know that much.