~ Amy ~ 27 ~ England ~ My blog is mainly just a big fat mess of cute tv couples and random rants of random thoughts I have on said couples (hence the title). It mainly consists of reblogs from far more talented bloggers than I. I watch FAR too much TV and get scarily obsessed with shipping couples from these TV shows haha. Feel free to send me a message or an ask or anything. I'm pretty friendly and I love to chat!
So I’ve been watching Supergirl for the first time and I’m discovering that people hate Mon El and particularly hate his relationship with Kara.
And I’m just like
I honestly don’t get it. Yes he wasn’t the best when he arrived but it’s called character development and a story arc!!! I mean, in the end he literally became a hero because of her! If that isn’t love, I don’t know what is!
If you dig deep enough you can find problematic elements to even the healthiest relationships on TV (they wouldn’t be able to create drama otherwise!) and there are WAY more FAR more problematic characters in other TV shows/movies so I’m genuinely confused at the amount of hate this character/coupling has. I think he’s being held up to ridiculously high expectations and I personally love him and ship him with Kara.
Anyway that’s just me dropping into a fandom I’m not part of and giving my un-asked for opinion 😂
P.S. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel, but sending hate to real people (whether it be producers/actors/other fans) because of a fictional character/story/couple is just quite frankly an awful thing to do. So please don’t do it!
Thinking about everything they’ve put Tony and Ziva through just hurts my heart. I get that they had to write an exit for Ziva when Cote decided to leave but they could have made Tiva cannon then, they could have just let her come back to DC with Tony. She could have bagged groceries or taught at a preschool or sold her paintings on the street and just been with Tony. Hell, she wouldn’t even have needed to make guest appearances ever, Tony could have just mentioned her occasionally like “My plans tonight? Having dinner with Ziva” and we would’ve lapped it up!!!!! They could’ve written Tony’s eventual exit as him leaving because Ziva got pregnant. They could have done it right but instead we’re left with this dumpster fire
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks D haha. I don’t know it just doesn’t fit what we saw on screen over the years.
A huge part of their relationship was based on mystery and hints. Sly little flirty remarks and connotations. So many interactions full of the spark and chemistry of unfulfilled sexual tension. They spent so many years going dangerously close to the line without crossing it (such as in undercovers) I think personally they enjoyed the dance and the back and forth. To me they would lose some of their magic if they were just sleeping together the whole time.
I also think it’s worth pointing out until about season 8 (apart from the whole Michael/Somalia storyline) there was never any real interactions between them that showed a genuine love. Yes we had friendship and chemistry and we knew from subtle looks and hints that they loved each other but they didn’t even describe each other as friends till like season 9/10 (it was always coworkers - never friends) I mean Tony says he can’t live without Ziva and risked his career and life for her but years later he says “do you really consider me to be in your life?” And apparently Ziva told Ray that Tony was like a brother to her but she hadn’t even been to his apartment!
I find it hard to believe that with them both being so closed off from each other that they would just easily open themselves up and fall into bed with each other. Even if it was just sexual.
I also think they took their jobs very seriously and even without Gibbs there they would never risk it by having a fling and making things difficult or awkward.
Last but certainly not least I think if they had started - they would never be able to stop.
So I’ve just remembered an episode where they said Tony once pulled a prank on Ziva and told her she had to take a huge exam to stay in NCIS that she didn’t really have to, and the poor woman spent 3 whole months revising for it
And I’m just...
Tony DiNozzo really was the adult male live action version of Helga from Hey Arnold wasn’t he?
Ok don’t get me wrong. All I want is a Tony and Ziva reunion onscreen. I’ll be over the moon and sob like a BABY when/if it happens
but
Just imagine if Tiva actually got together while Michael and Cote where both regulars on the show and didn’t spend 8 years TORTURING US??????
We could have had...
-All their feelings boiling over during an argument or standoff and both of them just ripping each other’s clothes off.
-So much awkwardness after waking up the next morning both wondering about what it meant.
-Tony being the one to take the bull by the horns and telling her he’s done messing around and he loves her and it’s on his Bucket List goddamit he wants a relationship with her!
-Tiva keeping it a secret from the rest of the team with secret glances, touches, stolen kisses in the elevator and texts amongst an oblivious McGee.
-One by one the team all accidentally finding out in different ways starting with Palmer (who almost bursts a blood vessel when they ask him to keep it from the team - especially Gibbs).
-McGee being the last one to find out and his reaction being like Ross from Friends - first having a hilarious meltdown and being furious that he was the last to know but then being overjoyed and happy for them.
-Tony dreading Gibbs reaction and avoiding him for days, hiding under desks and even coming from a crime scene in the back of the ME van with a body to avoid him.
-Gibbs finally catching up to Tony and saying he already knew and giving Tony and Ziva a head slap for not telling him and telling them to make it work but keep it out of the office.
-Despite their attempts, Tony and Ziva not being able to stop with their flirting in the workplace resulting in many eye rolls from McGee and headslaps from Gibbs.
-People commenting how happier they both are.
-Suspects/interviewees commenting on how cute they are together and how obvious it is they are a couple and they are made for each other etc.
-Suspects/interviewees flirting with one of them and the other getting hilariously jealous and insisting they’re guilty.
-Their first argument causing all sorts of awkwardness in the workplace resulting in Gibbs and McGee talking to both of them and telling them separately not to throw away what they have because it’s special
-“my boyfriend/girlfriend”
-Casual displays of affection - hugs, kisses touches
-Heart to hearts about their pasts, issues, demons, problems etc and both of them supporting each other
-One of them being hurt/kidnapped and the other being able to fully express their pain and worry because their feelings are not a secret anymore
-Their second fight being a more serious one with lots of angst and resulting in an almost break-up
-Both of them making up with a heart to heart where they both admit they love each other so much and they’re scared of messing it up.
-Domestic Tiva - lying in bed talking, play fighting, Ziva giving Tony a massage because his back is playing up, her cooking while he sets the table, both of them sat on the couch with him watching a movie while she’s reading a book cuddled up to him.
-Tony proposing - him telling Abby what he’s planning and her telling everyone else who all give him a million different ideas stressing him out. Tony almost having a heart attack when Palmer walks into the bullpen one day with a bridal magazine for Ziva from Breena before he’s even had chance to propose and a confused Ziva never finding out why Tony raced across the room and tackled him to the ground.
-Tony’s large as life extravagant proposal complete with ponies, dancers, fireworks and fire eaters going spectacularly wrong
- Him being really downcast about it until Ziva encourages him to continue and he makes a beautiful speech and they both cry and it turns into the most beautiful proposal ever
-”My fiance/fiancee”
-The Wedding - Gibbs walking Ziva down the aisle and giving Tony a head slap at the altar. Abby crying. Their vows being funny and moving. Both of them reminiscing on their past and everything they’ve been through with lots of emotional stuff and declarations of love as well as jokes and banter.
-”My husband/wife”
-Ziva finding out she’s pregnant. Both of them being shit scared and excited.
-Both of them expressing their fears of being like their fathers and reassuring each other they’ll be great parents.
-Ziva being pregnant - Ziva being fed up of being put on desk duty, Tony being overprotective and not letting her move a muscle.
-Ziva giving birth with half of NCIS in the corridors much to the frustration of the hospital staff. It gets to the point that the receptionist just directs all NCIS staff to the maternity wing without even asking why they are there.
-Their family - Ima Ziva and Daddy Tony
-Their extended family - McUncle Tim and Aunt Abby and Grandpa Gibbs
