A New Star Trek fan

Watching TNG Kirk is my favorite. Conscience of king is my favorite episode. The prime directive is a stupid plot device. 26 she/her Ultimate Uhotty fan

[anewstartrekfan]

Song: electricity

Artist: unknown (three dog band pilot)

[anewstartrekfan]

Farragut Disaster flashback episode is freaking happening this season guys

I see you white smoke cloud of death

Based on the voiceover I wonder if Spock and Kirk really will be trading traumatic memories.

Would Kirk really willingly open up to him like that?

This early?

The hype is real

Hope I’m right

[anewstartrekfan]

I love Uhotty with all my heart but it’s hilarious that even the actors were like, “wtf?” When they read the final frontier script.

[anewstartrekfan]

Also this. Would love something like this between them.

*Scotty gets shot

Uhura: Scotty! No! If you die I’ll you!

Scotty, chuckling: don’t make me laugh. It hurts right here.

[anewstartrekfan]

This is my uhotty tos dynamic. Both being into each other but just missing each other.

[anewstartrekfan]

Manifesting for s4

[battlships]

Apologies in advance to everyone because I will Not be normal when SNW drops the uhotty kiss

[starship21zedna9]

Uhotty shippers, come and get your food.

At first, I thought that was the new Vulcan character but looking at it slowly frame by frame, it is Uhura.

[anewstartrekfan]

Dreams can come true

[anewstartrekfan]

What Disney song best fits Jim Kirk?

Imma semi cheat and use the deleted prince song from Cinderella. (Look just give it a listen and pretend the face he sees in the night is the enterprise)

Reblog with your pick.

[oppoison-art]

A little something something from me and @anewstartrekfan ‘s Cinderella spirk au 💛💙

[anewstartrekfan]

You knocked it out of the park with this!

[anewstartrekfan]

This is still amazing

[anewstartrekfan]

I hope snw s4 isn’t just giving us crumbs for spirk. The hug was put in the trailer to get people talking but genuinely, plz, don’t let this be only bait.

The part of the trailer that has all my attention is this because if I am right and this is about the Farragut it could be some high quality angst. And if Spock is involved, spirk.

I’m talking the s3 finale mind meld accidentally gives Spock nightmares about Kirk’s past. And when Spock tries to ask he gets a surprisingly cold shoulder. Cue digging into it on his own.

Oh it would be super fun if like at first Spock is experiencing it but he doesn’t realize it’s Kirk’s memories until he tries to figure out what he keeps dreaming about and why. Like he could assume it’s some sort of premonition somehow based on the consistency. But the truth is the enterprise could just be traveling in the corner of the galaxy where the Farragut was attacked by the cloud, thus triggering the ptsd.

The dream would be Spock reaching out to Sam for answers, Sam initially brushing it off saying Jim never made a fuss. Spock, like visibly exhausted is like “are you sure about that?” But maybe more subtly condescending. Cue mind meld where Sam gets a taste of what Jim’s been keeping to himself.

Idk Sam Kirk deserves some development and not to be just a cameo.

[anewstartrekfan]

There’s a certain poetic irony to Jim Kirk being arguably the most interesting character in SNW and slowly gaining more and more screentime, while Spock over here is proving to everyone SNW stands for Spock’s Numerous Women.

[anewstartrekfan]

The Working Theory

I wanna give a shout out to Ethan Peck and Paul Wesley here for justifying my immediate reaction to seeing the white mist rushing towards Jim as the door closed, thinking it has something to do with the Farragut disaster.

Really there are three ways they could go about this. Either it’s about the cloud monster from Obsession, it’s somehow tarsus iv related, or SNW invents new trauma that Jim’s buried. Or some combo of the three.

Any option is good in my eyes. My only requirement is Jim doesn’t monologue about it.

Bro needs to be just as defensive and cagey as OG Kirk.

[myrmeraki]

james t kirk and Tarsus IV is such an interesting bit of lore and fandom phenomenon. in the conscience of a king, his experience and survival of Tarsus is leveraged as an episodic plot device and gives depth to kirks character but remains just that— episodic in its depth. the original series never touches it again, its not held as a core part of his background the way Spock’s life on Vulcan or even Bones’ mostly-humorous Georgian sensibilities. and then in the kelvin timeline jim is given a wholly different yet equally decimating core backstory to shape him into the man he becomes. and still no one touches Tarsus with a ten foot pole.

except: everyone in the trek fandom. we love this shit. theres tags for Tarsus trauma up the wazoo. this little piece of grit that much of the actual body of work doesn’t interrogate has become a fandom pearl. its such a good example of fandom doing what fandom does best: picking at something interesting in the source that doesn’t need to be explored for the function of the larger plot, yet makes all the difference in a pure character or dynamic study.

its all very fascinating to me.

[anewstartrekfan]

I think it’s cuz Jim Kirk as a character isnt someone who monologues about his tragic backstory. In fact he takes active steps to avoid talking about it if it ever comes up.

Both Conscience of the King and Obsession have scenes between Kirk, Spock, and Bones, where the latter two have to recite Kirk’s tragic backstory at him to get him to react/tell them what’s going on. Obsession is especially neat cuz he’s constantly like “I explained this in the tapes.” He does not want to reveal anything new or expose his feelings about this. Conscience of the king Spock simply has to go “I checked the computer like you did. I got the same info.” For Jim to be like “okay they know some stuff,” and begrudgingly start talking about it. (But not before trying one last time to get them to stop).

Meanwhile Spock has no problem talking about his past most of the time, and when there are issues, he pretty easily cracks under the pressure.

Jim Kirk however just doesn’t.

So realistically making a trauma arc out of stuff maybe paralleling his past is extremely difficult.

There was an episode in s2 where Kirk go possessed by a dude that survived a mass extinction event because he was deemed more valuable than the other people on his planet.

The tarsus iv parallels aren’t even hinted at.

Trouble with Tribbles is about Kirk being mad he’s out on an escort mission for apparently very important grain.

Again, not even touched.

[dogearedfriends]

still not over this. good grief that man is traumatized

[anewstartrekfan]

The fact Kirk says this but is not then immediately confronted with any bit of his traumatic past is one of the biggest missed opportunities of this franchise.

If pacing was the issue, then did we really need to see Spock’s crap again? We’d done that song and dance.

And what kills me is SHATNER DIRECTED FINAL FRONTIER! HE COULD’VE GIVEN HIMSELF A JUICY DRAMATIC SCENE BUT NO WE HAVE JIM ONLY HINTING AT HIS BAGGAGE

And look, I know Jim isn’t the type to monologue about whatever he went through. But like, he didn’t have to. Have Sybok show everyone, then when he tries to make his elevator pitch, Jim could just be staring him in the eye, eyes filled with anger,

“Are you done?”

[jennelikejennay]

I consider this so core to Jim's character. Of all the people who didn't go to therapy when they should have, Jim didn't go to therapy the most. Because he feels holding onto his pain is necessary, that it makes him who he is.

He's a little that way about Tarsus, and he's that way about Edith, and he's very much that way about the Tycho cloud monster. He's made his trauma part of his personality; he doesn't know who he'd be without it.

(And that's why Spock really shouldn't have erased his memory of Reyna. He wouldn't have wanted that.)

[anewstartrekfan]

Exactly! Tos actually explores this too, albeit in one of the worst episodes unfortunately. But despite the paradise syndrome being terrible, it is when this is spelled out the most. Once the memory loss happens, he’s got this nagging feeling about whatever’s missing. I think he says something along the lines of “I don’t deserve this happiness.”

[dogearedfriends]

still not over this. good grief that man is traumatized

[anewstartrekfan]

The fact Kirk says this but is not then immediately confronted with any bit of his traumatic past is one of the biggest missed opportunities of this franchise.

If pacing was the issue, then did we really need to see Spock’s crap again? We’d done that song and dance.

And what kills me is SHATNER DIRECTED FINAL FRONTIER! HE COULD’VE GIVEN HIMSELF A JUICY DRAMATIC SCENE BUT NO WE HAVE JIM ONLY HINTING AT HIS BAGGAGE

And look, I know Jim isn’t the type to monologue about whatever he went through. But like, he didn’t have to. Have Sybok show everyone, then when he tries to make his elevator pitch, Jim could just be staring him in the eye, eyes filled with anger,

“Are you done?”

[felis-pj]

TARSUS MENTION PLEASE???!!!

[anewstartrekfan]

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

OMG, is it happening!?

[anewstartrekfan]

Potentially! The fact it’s even a chance is nuts.

Tho imma die on the obsession trauma theory.

Just look at that bit of the shot of Kirk screaming in the trailer

Let me be Delulu and think it’s the white cloud thing that killed like half the Farragut crew and the captain.

[felis-pj]

omg i completely forgot about obsession. i think this is more likely than a tarsus mention actually. exploring trauma related to kirk's starfleet career seems more in line with snw's story telling rather than exploring childhood trauma. ultimate wishful thinking cause i reallyyyyyy want canon footage of tarsus maybe both of these events will be covered. omg wait can you imagine kirk is having tarsus flashbacks during the events of obsession.......

[anewstartrekfan]

Thanks! To a degree I agree but there is also a chance it does both. Jim’s hinted as his childhood before with La’an. And there was that one background detail that his Starfleet profile said he was a tarsus iv survive.

Tarsus does feel more personal though than the Farragut disaster. Plus if you do the Farragut you could not only reuse the same starship set, but Jim can still be played by Paul.

Moreover though if we go the obsession route then I think this is either a flashback to the monster from obsession or Jim somehow reliving the past since obsession said Jim was a cadet when it happened.

But this also means you could get flashbacks to other stuff.

Oooo what if Jim and Spock do another mind meld and Spock ends up seeing all this?

Like Jim asks Spock to help him because the meld calmed his mind before. (Or Spock offers to help if/when Kirk either complains about not sleeping or Spock simply notices Kirk is off. Leaning on the latter) and then Spock ends up accidentally reliving Jim’s trauma.

*cue “I don’t like anyone meddling in my private affairs.”

Maybe this is like right before jim is set to take command and so the pressure is getting to him because he’s thinking about times he’s “failed,” people before and wondering if he’s up to the challenge.

*cue Spock affirmation he is and then Jim’s hug from trailer.

*laughs in angst and feels

[felis-pj]

TARSUS MENTION PLEASE???!!!

[anewstartrekfan]

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

OMG, is it happening!?

[anewstartrekfan]

Potentially! The fact it’s even a chance is nuts.

Tho imma die on the obsession trauma theory.

Just look at that bit of the shot of Kirk screaming in the trailer

Let me be Delulu and think it’s the white cloud thing that killed like half the Farragut crew and the captain.

[felis-pj]

TARSUS MENTION PLEASE???!!!

[anewstartrekfan]