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Cauterizing the Beth wound - It burns so bad that Daryl tries to forget her, suppress her, but the cauterization won't hold forever. 🔥 ♥️ 🔥

Ever since I witnessed Daryl get burnt by the Brulent (burner) walker in the opening episode of Daryl Dixon, I have wanted to write about the symbolism around cauterizing the wound and what it means.

Many of us have wondered why, for the longest time Daryl never mentioned Beth, she was so utterly forgotten that it was like she didn't exist. The lack of acknowledgement of her has, at times, been infuriating, but it has been done very deliberately, and its meaning goes deep.

The reason she has been "forgotten" is that cauterizing a wound and deliberately suppressing and forgetting something painful, or that you dislike thinking about, are interchangeable.

The new blue-eyed type of walker (Beth) is called a Brulent or burner because their touch burns the skin, leaving a painful mark.

Daryl showed us a mini version of cauterizing the emotional wound, after Beth's "death" in 510. When he burned his hand with a cigarette 🚬

The cauterization didn't hold for him, emotionally, very long...but the music box plays again soon after this.

#team delusional #team defiance #team beth lives #bethyl #beth greene #beth is alive #beth is coming #td #beth greene lives

galadrieljones

Beth "Through the Looking Glass" (TD)

This is a great question, which I received from @4thenorthstar a LONG time ago. I'm sorry it took me so long to post!! As expected, my answer started to take on a mind of its own, so, because I don't think I've ever actually written about this before, at least not on tumblr, I just decided to make it into a whole thing.

Regarding Alice in Wonderland and Beth's story, the simple answer is: Yes. Multiple TD theorists have talked about Alice and her adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass over the years. There are of course the dead rabbits as associated with Lizzy in season 4. There's also the white rabbit's foot, which Morgan finds at some point before he stumbles upon the church in "Coda." I recall there also being some discussion of the white rabbit and Norman's tattoo, which makes a front and center appearance in 11.1 "Acheron, Pt. 1," the episode in which he, Maggie, and Negan enter the D.C. subway system. That entire sequence has a TON of rabbit hole imagery. The notion of "going down the rabbit hole" in general certainly applies to Beth's experience at Grady as well. There's just a lot there.

Today, I'll give you my own interpretation, which revolves around the existence of an inverse "mirror land," ie: a hidden place (or a hidden "story") that Beth disappears into after her "death." This "mirror land," or "mirror story," is similar in theory to the land of Oz in that it exists "over the rainbow" in an alternate narrative timeline, one that exists adjacent to the land of TWDU, but which we, the audience, cannot see. It's a little like the "multiverse," except it's unseen, and because it is "through the [narrative] looking glass," every time we do catch glimpses into this other story, what we see appears to us backwards, inverted, or simply wrong.

My theory mostly hinges on episode 5.9 "What Happened and What's Going On." I have theorized that this episode is sort of like our one true "glimpse" into the "mirror land,” or an alternate “back to front” universe, which tells us that everything we think we know about "what happened and what's going on" is actually inverse to reality.

Reality, but Backwards

This theory begins with the post-credits scene in “Coda,” in which Morgan encounters two important clues that we are entering a “mirror land,” or a place where what we see is not actually reality. Instead, it’s a mirror reflection of reality. An “inverse.”

1. The Negation Symbol. The first is the negation symbol, or a backwards, tipped-over letter "L," which is carved into the tree, pictured above. @angelthefirst1 has written extensively about the negation symbol, which is a mathematical symbol that represents the concept of “negating” everything that came before, ie: this symbol is telling us that everything we just saw, like Beth's death, is “negated,” or reversed, ie: The negation of "Beth is dead" would literally be "Beth is not dead."

2. The second major clue is what @frangipanilove has referred to as, I believe the “look back walker" or the "look behind walker," ie: the female walker whose head is turned all the way around 180 degrees. According to frangi, this is a clue that we need to "look back," aka: “look behind us” in order to understand what’s to come. I think it could also be a clue that what we're seeing in "Coda," we're seeing "backwards" or "wrong."

Now, on to "What Happened and What's Going On."

WHAWGO is the next episode and perhaps the must oblique episode in the entire flagship. At this point, I would argue that we are narratively "through the looking glass," so to speak, but just in snatches. First of all, the story in WHAWGO starts at the end, rather than the beginning, establishing a nonlinear “puzzle” narrative from the get-go, which is atypical for TWD at this time and creates an immediate sense of disorientation for the viewer. BUT. It's even more complex than that. The funeral scenes, which focus around the digging of a grave, are integrated with fragmented shots of some ominous event that we still have never seen or heard about. This use of nonlinear storytelling integrated with fragmented scenes from what we presume to be the past tricks us into thinking that we're seeing Beth's funeral.

But we're not seeing Beth's funeral. We're seeing Tyreese's funeral. We have never seen Beth’s body go into the ground, nor have we seen anyone stab Beth in the brain, and we have never seen Beth turn into a walker. To this day, many members of the GA remain "tricked" by the opening scenes of WHAWGO. But if you watch closely, the shots following the train tracks are akin to following the rabbit hole into another reality, and if you listen to Father Gabriel’s sermon, you will hear an interpretation of 2 Corinthians 17-18 about the nature of what can be seen vs what cannot be seen, ie: “17 For our light and momentary affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory that is far beyond comparison. 18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” This calls attention to the fact that what we are seeing may feel important in its weight right now, but it is only temporary. Meanwhile, what we are not seeing, what really happened, what's really going on, that is the real truth, and those of us who believe this should have faith, ie: seeing isn’t believing. Believing is seeing. It's backwards. Please remember, too, that both Emily and Chad's names still appear in the title card in WHAWGO. This is unusual, as an actor's name is typically removed from the opening credits in the immediate, subsequent episode after their character death.

Isn't Beth supposed to be dead? Is she still part of the story? What gives? All of these are important questions to ask, because their answers communicate anomalies. Beth death is riddled with anomalies.

Meanwhile, the story on the radio, being narrated by Andrew Lincoln in his British accent, is nonsense. While it could be foreshadowing, it is likely just some metafictional, "inverted" or even just discombobulated reflection of the world in which Team Family lives, ie: a "mirror land" or existence. It’s important to note that in the beginning of WHAWGO, there is no clear point of view. It’s omniscient, and pure metafiction, sifting through a pile of narrative puzzle pieces, and teaching us that almost all of them are missing. Without knowledge of what’s to come, it makes almost no sense at all. At the time, the GA did not know that Tyreese was going to die. They were filling in the blanks with whatever information they last perceived, ie: Beth being shot in the head and carried out of the hospital, hence: the assumption that the funeral is hers. Most people will not go back and rewatch an episode to better understand it when it’s done. So those initial impressions in WHAWGO last forever.

Scott Gimple knows this, which is why he is a good writer. He is using his audience and our own tendencies as consumers against us. He is telling us a story that isn’t there in order to trick us into believing events that never happened. He does the same exact thing during the exchange scene in “Coda,” but that’s another post for another day.

Mirror Images and Time

WHAWGO places a heavy emphasis on mirror images, which are inverse to reality. There are many shots of Tyreese's face reflected in the mirror, as well as a shot of Glenn's face reflected in a CD (see above). The name of the subdivision that Team Family visits is called “Wiltshire” in the comic book; however, in the show it's called “Shirewilt,” a perfect “back to front” inversion of the truth, a mirror image.

In the episode, there is also a major and immediate emphasis on Noah's twin brothers. I view them as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum from Alice Through the Looking Glass. But they can also more generally be seen as simply more mirror images, ie: two versions of the same thing. Later on in the episode, it will be the "unseen" twin that bites Tyreese, a bizarre, unforeseen event that leads to his very real death.

Further, and perhaps most interestingly, when Rick et al enter Shirewilt, they pass by a discarded and broken grandfather clock on the road, a reflection of the working grandfather clock in "Still," which revolves around Beth and Daryl.

The broken grandfather clock is super interesting, because it reflects the illogical, "broken" nature of what’s going on. Broken time pieces, or the breaking of time in general, play a crucial role in Alice's adventures in both Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. In Alice in Wonderland, for example, the white rabbit is always late, and the Mad Hatter breaks the white rabbit's time piece during the mad tea party. These are major hints that time has no meaning in these stories, and that to try and follow logic is pointless.

Meanwhile, in Through the Looking Glass, time also passes differently through the looking glass than it does in our reality. When Alice first crawls into the mirror and arrives in the “mirror land,” she is challenged by the Red Queen to a race. The Red Queen tells Alice that through the looking glass, one must run very fast to get anywhere at all. If you don’t run fast enough, you’ll find you’ve ended up right where you began. The Red Queen’s Race is a popular concept that has been used in physics to study the speed of light and seeming expansion of the observable universe. In the story by Lewis Carroll, it’s just a clever way of showing the readers that time means something different through the looking glass, so expect a nonsensical adventure. I believe they're playing a similar role here in TWD.

Clocks and time in general are quite central to Beth's adventures, and to the bizarre sequence of events in seasons 4-5 overall. Consider that the passing of time in 4b is fairly confusing. We don't know how much time has passed. It could be a couple weeks or it could be months. In some cases, it seems to be summer, fall, and winter at the same time. Daryl harvests strawberries by the side of the tracks, and a couple nights later, it's apparently New Year's Eve. Fall fruits and summer flowers bloom at once. Carol and Tyreese find themselves harvesting a pecan grove (fall/winter), but they're also eating fresh peaches (spring/summer). Nothing makes sense, in terms of the seasons. There is no real sense of time after the prison falls, and this is on purpose. The writers use lots and lots of seasonal fruits and plant references in 4b, and they also update the characters' clothing choices multiple times to emphasize the passing of time and the changing of the seasons; however, if you pay attention, the way that time and seasons play out doesn't really make sense at all. It's a blur.

All of this is to say that, in WHAWGO, I believe that time has essentially stopped in prelude to a hard reset. I don't mean that it's stopped literally in the context of the story. This is an argument for postmodern storytelling, ie: There are things going on above the level of the story, in which the writers are being very playful, and they're sending messages through the fourth wall and to the close-watching audience via clues.

For example, even the title and the themes of the episode "What Happened and What's Going On" suggest a pause, ie: STOP, look around, listen to the news, and consider What’s Happened and What’s Going On. There's also the implication that the writers are using this very episode to tell us what's happened and what's going on, just out of order. I believe that this major pause in the story occurs so that the timeline can right itself after an enormous schism, which began with the destruction of the prison and Hershel's death and ended with Beth's "death," aka: the entire D.C. al Coda (the false ending, in prelude to a reset). Time will restart in the final scene of “Them,” along with the music box, and the story will reboot from the beginning.

If you watch episodes 5.8-5.11 closely, you will feel the strange bending and blurring of reality. The effects begin in the final exchange scene of 5.8, hit their peak in 5.9 and then begin to mellow out in 5.10. That’s because in these episodes, the story seems to enter a warped standstill in which nothing appears to have happened, and yet, a lot of things change. The feel of 5.9-5.10 specifically, which seem to signal a hard reset for the story, is different from those that surround them. Once we enter 5.11, the typical flow and nature of the show returns as we know it, and the story resumes progress in a normal, linear sense.

All I’m saying is that something happened in these episodes which we cannot see (The Missing 17 Days), and Gimple uses this "negative space" to poke holes in the story, creating a fragmented sense of time and reality, and in this, sets the stage for a reset, hence the D.C. al Coda, which implies that, before you can find the actual ending of a piece, or coda, you must return to the beginning, and play the whole thing over again.

Most viewers will write this sort of thing off as either bad writing or simple confusion. Some will miss it entirely and just go on as usual. But its ultimate purpose is to create a kind of plausible deniability, which Gimple can draw upon later, ie: “Sure Beth appeared to have died. But are you sure that what you think you saw really happened that way? Or did you miss something?” Sometimes it's what's in the negative space that matters most in this show. The things we do not see.

Two Sheriffs, Two A's, Two Terminuses

To me the relationship to Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass is mostly metaphorical AND metafictional, ie: Beth, like Alice, finds herself in an alternate reality, or "story," which exists outside the immediate view of the audience, and which we don't yet have full access to. It's through the looking glass. It's over the rainbow. It's in some sort of "mirror land," which we know exists, because we've seen hints of it, but we don't get to go there, and we don't get to see (at least not yet).

Think of it this way: If you look back at 4b, you will see that the only character who never once follows the railroad tracks to Terminus (aka the end of the line) is Beth. In “Still,” Beth and Daryl cross the railroad tracks, but they never follow them, and Daryl doesn't find himself on the tracks to Terminus until he loses Beth and encounters the Claimers. Even Carol, who is somewhat outside the narrative herself, having been exiled in 4.4 “Indifference,” follows the tracks to Terminus at some point. It's only Beth who doesn't. Why?

Because Beth isn't on the same "narrative" tracks as Rick and the rest of the group. She's not bound for the same Terminus (or ending) as Rick and the group either. She has her own track, her own path, her own story, her own Terminus. It is not a coincidence that Slabtown is a reference to a very real red light district in Atlanta, which existed in the 1840s, at a railroad terminus.

Beth is the only character who doesn’t find herself on the tracks, because that is Rick's story, which ends bizarrely in a container labeled “A." Now, there's a reason for this, and I have a BIG theory about containers "A," "C," and "D," but we'll save that for another time. For now, just consider that 4.16 "A" is the episode in which we are shown the very strategic flashback in which Beth is given Rick's hat and coronated "The New Sheriff in Town." The new protagonist, perhaps? The new "A." I have another post about the "Two A's" in season 5, which revolves around Bob Stookey. I will hopefully finish soon, as it is closely related to the "mirror" imagery.

Beth is the "New Sheriff in Town," aka: the Sheriff of a new story, her own story, a story that Gimple has written, which begins in season 4, but which he has not yet had the chance to tell to his audience, due his contractual obligations to the comic. That's what I see.

Like Daryl, and like the CRM, and much of the Wildfire folklore, Beth and her arc, which begins in "18 Miles Out," are Scott Gimple’s creation. I have theorized that because she is the lead in Gimple’s story, not the comic book story, and the "New Sheriff in Town,” Beth must irrevocably exit the narrative in season 5, only to return later, when Gimple has completed his obligations to the comic and subsequently has more freedom to do what he wants to do. He has to kill her so that people don’t ask lingering questions and get hung up on her situation, but he does it in such a way that those of us who are watching closely might observe some form of reasonable doubt. (Aka what I'm doing right now). He then sprinkles in a bunch of Christ and resurrection imagery, as well as imagery from fairy tales like "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves" to imply that Beth's "death" is merely temporary.

This is all fine. It’s common in TV world to “kill off” or send away characters when they’re unneeded and then bring them back later when it makes sense, especially in science fiction and fantasy. But because Gimple is playful, and he loves metafiction and postmodern storytelling, he can’t just leave it at that. He uses texts like Alice's Adventures Through the Looking Glass and the Wizard of Oz to build a web of clues which imply that his narrative, which stars Beth, is not “dead.” It’s not even sleeping. It’s going on all the time, just in an alternate narrative reality that exists “through the looking glass,” or “over the rainbow,” however you want to slice it, possibly in a land far away, but maybe right in our own backyard. In any case, it remains unseen, but that doesn't mean it's not there, as Father Gabriel teaches in WHAWGO. Believe is seeing.

So anyway. Now, with the flagship behind us, and several spin-offs having taken the franchise far, far away from the original intentions and universe of the comic book, perhaps Gimple’s story may finally become "reality" and find the light of day. And maybe, just maybe, we'll get to find out what actually happened after "Coda."

rose-andthe-thorn

I forgot all about this in the opening credits! Hubby and I are on season 5 episode 2 and I just saw it flash. Was there anymore research done on this? After season 6 and 7 aired and there was still nothing on Beth I forgot all about it.

drewmoll03

I don't remember honestly, it was one of the weird things people noticed, it was probably something about the footage that never saw the light of day

@angelthefirst1

angelthefirst1

There is nothing new on "The Flash" that I know of, although Emily did appear in the TV show "The Flash" no long after leaving TWD.

Here's some old theories to reflect X

Xoxo 💕

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl

sweetz1919

Omg you guys!!! Norman just released this new T-shirt!!! Do you see what it is?!?! It’s his broken heart tee! Doesn’t someone else we know have some broken heart merch 🧐🧐🧐 oh right our girl Emily! And how awesome are these tees and am I going to get both the shirt and her hat? Yes, yes I am lol.

Hmmm… his new tee dropped…. she’s releasing some Walking Dead content …. 🤔👀

drewmoll03

Damn 🤯🤯

@twdmusicboxmystery

@angelthefirst1

angelthefirst1

Yep, I'm not surprised. I told you all her merch symbolism had a deeper meaning than what's on the surface. The broken-hearted dinosaur 🦕

#team delusional #team beth lives #beth greene #team defiance #beth is coming

drewmoll03

Excuse me?!? I mean, there's already an official song of her and Lauren singing this, so why? And why now🙃🙃 I need answers

Thoughts??

@twdmusicboxmystery

@angelthefirst1

angelthefirst1

It's VERY interesting timing!!! HUGE! 😍

#team delusional #bethyl #beth greene #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives

anjelia3

Daryl and Beth aka the human version of Rapunzel and Eugene. (no one can convince me otherwise)

Inspired by (x)

angelthefirst1

I'm bringing this back around because Saint Mont Michael was the inspiration for the castle in Disney's Tangled.

Another connection to Tangled and Beth and Daryl.

#Bethyl #team delusional #Beth Greene #Daryl Dixon #Tangled #Rapunzel x Eugene #team defiance #beth greene lives #The Walking Dead #disney

Beth, as mermaid Amy 🧜‍♀️ ✨️ Who swam away for a time and transformed.

The very first mention of a cure in TWD happened as Amy was lying dead, but prior to her waking as a zombie.

Rick mentions the CDC while Andrea waits over Amy's body.

The writers repeat and invert everything, so it's no surprise to me that Amy and Beth are linked to a cure theme.

When Beth first opens her eyes and wakes at Grady, we not only see a visual parallel of the blue eyes opening, we also see a clock pointing to 532

532 means Ami, from which we get the name Amy.

Besides the brulent blue-eyed walkers in DD1, Amy is the only one I can think of that doesn't have yellow walker eyes upon reanimation.

The beginning is the end, and Daryl coming across the blue eyes of the brulent walkers, at the beginning of his spin-off, will be repeated with Beth's blue eyes at the end.

Amy gets given this mermaid 🧜‍♀️ necklace by Andrea for her birthday.

Emily Kinney - Mermaid song 🧜‍♀️ 🎵 🎶

Mermaid's can represent transformation and metamorphosis and can represent the merging of two worlds and the potential for change.

The beginning is the end, and Beth is linked to the first blond character to be bitten and transfrom in the show. Amy, who was present at the first mention of a cure.

I AM- name of God.

A mermaid 🧜‍♀️ swimming away.

OH OH

What changed your mind? GOOD people, aka the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is the cure.

Good actually means perfect.

Perfect news = cure

Amy wears a t-shirt with stars on it when she dies, hinting to 🌟 The Morning star linked to the star of David/Israel, which her name (Ami) is also connected to.

Amy gets shot in the head in a visually similar manner to Beth.

The theme of water being involved around the time of Beth's disappearance (after Grady) is something that keeps coming up.

Oh, oh, the mermaid swimming away, and Emily's album Swimteam both seem to be lined to this theme and the pool of Bethesda.

We also saw Daryl's map wash away in Find Me when he was searching for Rick's (Beth's) body.

I recently talked about the possibility of a storm coming in when the group tries to bury Beth in my breakdown of Omaha Hotel.

Amy and Andrea are located next to the quarry filled with water when she dies and turns.

There are a few other connections to Beth and Amy that I want to mention.

Amy is Andrea's little sister, and we expect Beth to take on some of Andrea's role when she returns, becoming "little Andrea."

Amy got bitten on the arm, which is something that has been speculated happening to Beth prior to her getting to Grady (the CDC)

She also got bitten on the neck like Andrea did in season 3.

Amy took an unusually long time to turn (all night), and her sister wouldn't allow anyone to touch her or stab her through the head.

If Beth's story is a retake on Amy, then I imagine the same scenario happens with Beth.

She doesn't get stabbed in the head because they already believe the bullet put her down, but her fingers twich, like Amy's did before she awakened. Possibly causing an argument about stabbing her in the head to be safe.

Maggie and Daryl will not allow this...

When her body does go missing, they will indeed think she reaminated as a walker, causing Daryl to start tracking her, but a storm and water causes him to lose the trail like with Rick's map, which made Daryl scream like he was at the absolute end of himself.

One other link between Beth and Amy that's worth a mention is mushrooms, yes fungi.

Lori calls Amy the mushroom queen. 👸Lori calls Amy this because she is off finding mushrooms.

How is this related to Beth?

Well, we saw mushrooms mentioned in TOWL in relation to the girl living in the museum, the same girl who hid in the grasshopper sculpture. Thorn tells Rick that her group grew mushrooms 🍄 we know the museum and grasshopper symbolism is linked to Beth.

Well, in Find Me, we see Daryl sitting next to a log with mushrooms growing on it.

Find Me and Consumed really are templates of how he will find Beth, and finding Beth aka the Morning Star (Jesus) 🌟 will make Daryl a fun guy 🥁 🥁 🤭

Happy guy = Happy ending.

2 Peter 1.19

We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Coda

🥁🍄🌟♥️♾️♥️🌟🍄🥁

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney #amy harrison

angelthefirst1

Omaha Hotel - the story of Beth's attempted funeral and her return. Watch here

Many of you already know, I believe Emily's side projects are planned, funded by, and organised by AMC.

Yes, I believe she is still contracted by AMC and has been telling us Beth's missing story and future story in her "unseen" or "off-screen" projects.

Coincidences are only valid if they are rare, but with Emily's side projects, since she left the walking dead, we have seen a tidal wave of symbolism related to TWD.

So today, I want to talk about Emily's song Omaha Hotel and how I believe it's Beth's attempted funeral and burial story, but also the story of Beth coming home...

The music video opens with Emily Kinney as "The supporting character."

I've talked about this before, but the title "The supporting character" is another way of quoting the bible verse that Father Gabrielle quoted at Beth's unseen "funeral," which was actually the funeral for Tyreese.

2 Corinthians 4.18

We look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen, are temporal; but the things which are not seen, are eternal.

The supporting character opening title is written over the top of a train Crossroads...

Beth was first lost at a 3-way crossroads in Alone. The below photo shows the real filming location in Georgia compared with the shot we saw when Daryl meets the Claimers.

Rail crossing and 3 roads or tracks.

What struck me is that we currently have 3 different spin-offs on the go, and one of them (Daryl Dixon season 1) leads Daryl to a car garage and then to France, in a similar manner to the one he ends up in with the Claimers.

The other spin-offs are relative to what was happening in season 4 too, Maggie was looking for Glenn, which is a repeat of Maggie looking for Hershel in Dead City.

And Michonne looks for and finds Rick (TOWL) on the road after the prison.

We are repeating history.

Back to Omaha Hotel, the song opens talking about the flood taking the town and the fire 🔥 taking the bank.

In "Find Me," which was a template to find Beth AKA Rick, a large electrical storm with heavy rain washes away Daryl's map.

In Omaha Hotel, we hear the lyrics...🎶 "I watched them tuning the soil" (digging a grave)

🎶 "With the turning of the weather" (a storm was coming as they tried to bury Beth, and this in part contributed to Daryl not being able to track her down) The shot shows water sprinklers with the turning of the weather line, a hint to rain.

"All at once there were no more chances" (Emily's song Last Chance is about Beth and Daryl's last chance when she returns)

"I wish we could have caught up under better circumstances"

"The fire took the bank" 🔥

The film clip for Omaha Hotel shows a water tower...

With the lyrics, 🎶"No one had the money to recover what sank."

We saw a water tower in 511 just after the music box plays in 510.

Emily's song talks about...

🎶 "I'm sure this place was Greener 💚 (Greene) when i was little." while showing a church with a steeple.

She talks about coming from the airport (we know Rick got airlifted out with his injuries) Could Beth have been airlifted to Omaha before it fell?

🎶 "But I always loved the part where we pray to Mary"

🎶 "Omaha Hotel, where I spent the night, I watched the bugs fly around in the parking lot light"

The lost filming spoilers really line up with this song, as we believe Beth was left in a car (parking lot) at some point.

🎶 "Couldn't catch a wink sleeping in my blue jeans. Tears in church kinda killed my dreams"

Missing filming spoilers from the missing church footage, also line up with this song and the "Tears in church, kinda killed my dreams"

Beth could hear them crying, because she couldn't "sleep" in her blue jeans (She wasn't dead)

Beth "i stepped away for a few years"

The song talks about coming home after years "With the wrinkles on our face, nostalgia is setting in"

She left because she was dying like Rick.

"Just want to live my life and this place is dying"

The second last thing the song ends with is a few lines of OH OH

Then it finished like it starts - the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. Alpha and Omega (Jesus)

"The flood took the town the fire took the bank and no one has the money to recover what sank."

angelthefirst1

3 days after I made this post on Omaha Hotel, being about Beth's funeral, she posts about this song...

Out of all the songs in the world to post about...🌎

😒👀 yeah, ok, Emily 💫

Back for the funeral.

The song talks about

-Blonde hair

-A parking lot (watch the bugs fly around in the parking lot light)

-A Penthouse and the moon X

- Feeling like something will kill you, but it doesn't.

- Dad is a drinker.

- Being older when you go home (with wrinkles on our face nostalgia is setting in)

Beth's missing funeral. Eventually, we will go back and see that missing funeral.

🎶❤️🎶😴

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney #omaha #Omaha hotel #Beth's funeral

angelthefirst1

In the river of Lethe

Just a quick post to point out a few confirmations that Daryl loved Beth. ❤️

Cos who doesn't like to be reminded of that?

No one, that's who! 😋

Rendition 1104, Daryl with Leah and the Reapers, is an interpretation of his time with Beth.

We all see that but why is it so mixed up?

Well...

We see the river Acheron used by the writers just prior to this in 1101 and 1102 (being in the river Acheron makes you relive your most tormenting woes)

So i have no doubt, that in the same vain the writers were using the river Lethe as well (The river Lethe gives you forgetfulness) both are mythical underworld rivers.

Daryl seems to have a suppressed and mixed up version of the past in his subconscious. Forgetting parts, and adding woe to others.

I think he may be in the fork to Both rivers, creating this alternative interpretation of the past.

Leah: I never said he loved me...

The very next word said is by Pope, who says 'oh'

Pope thinks that Daryl, cannot stop gazing at someone he loved (meaning Leah)

Leah points out that Daryl left her, Pope found her and became her new family, and she never regretted it.

The Supporting Character and Omaha hotel by Emily Kinney...

One of my all time favourites from her, it's beautiful.

She leaves her family and where she comes from and doesn't regret it.

That's it, short and sweet for a change 😊

Leah is Beth in Daryl's mixed up, underworld drowned mind.

drewmoll03

This interpretation is definitely an interesting one, I actually never payed much attention to the story around Daryl and Leah cause eww🙄 just for clarification, would that mean that Beth doesn't regret getting separated from TF? Cause that sounds fucking sad 😭

paledarklight

So there is a clip of one of the female writers saying that then getting lost together was the happiest they've ever been, that means from the prison and and being stuck together after the farm fell, The prison falling and Beth and Daryl being stuck together is the happiest they have been

drewmoll03

Omg I had forgotten about that clip!! My bethyl heart 😭😭😭 Does anyone have the link for it??

angelthefirst1

@drewmoll03

Denise Huth did the behind the scenes commentary for Alone... I don't have the link, just clips of what said..

Gimple in an episode for season 5 of The Talking Dead talks about the Alone house and comments that it was a ❤️ lovely place. He makes a point of saving LOVELY. Not subtle if you ask me.

Everything gets a return, and I equate this to Daryl's Happy ending, returning through a LOVE ❤️ ly place (Paris)

Here is an article on Gimple's comments

During the Talking Dead Season 5 Preview special, The Walking Dead showrunner Scott Gimple [...]

#bethyl #team delusional #beth greene #beth and daryl #beth is alive #beth is coming #team defiance #beth greene lives #emily kinney

Omaha Hotel - the story of Beth's attempted funeral and her return. Watch here

Many of you already know, I believe Emily's side projects are planned, funded by, and organised by AMC.

Yes, I believe she is still contracted by AMC and has been telling us Beth's missing story and future story in her "unseen" or "off-screen" projects.

Coincidences are only valid if they are rare, but with Emily's side projects, since she left the walking dead, we have seen a tidal wave of symbolism related to TWD.

So today, I want to talk about Emily's song Omaha Hotel and how I believe it's Beth's attempted funeral and burial story, but also the story of Beth coming home...

The music video opens with Emily Kinney as "The supporting character."

2 Corinthians 4.18

We look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen, are temporal; but the things which are not seen, are eternal.

The supporting character opening title is written over the top of a train Crossroads...

Beth was first lost at a 3-way crossroads in Alone. The below photo shows the real filming location in Georgia compared with the shot we saw when Daryl meets the Claimers.

Rail crossing and 3 roads or tracks.

The other spin-offs are relative to what was happening in season 4 too, Maggie was looking for Glenn, which is a repeat of Maggie looking for Hershel in Dead City.

And Michonne looks for and finds Rick (TOWL) on the road after the prison.

We are repeating history.

Back to Omaha Hotel, the song opens talking about the flood taking the town and the fire 🔥 taking the bank.

In "Find Me," which was a template to find Beth AKA Rick, a large electrical storm with heavy rain washes away Daryl's map.

In Omaha Hotel, we hear the lyrics...🎶 "I watched them tuning the soil" (digging a grave)

"All at once there were no more chances" (Emily's song Last Chance is about Beth and Daryl's last chance when she returns)

"I wish we could have caught up under better circumstances"

"The fire took the bank" 🔥

The film clip for Omaha Hotel shows a water tower...

With the lyrics, 🎶"No one had the money to recover what sank."

We saw a water tower in 511 just after the music box plays in 510.

Emily's song talks about...

🎶 "I'm sure this place was Greener 💚 (Greene) when i was little." while showing a church with a steeple.

She talks about coming from the airport (we know Rick got airlifted out with his injuries) Could Beth have been airlifted to Omaha before it fell?

🎶 "But I always loved the part where we pray to Mary"

🎶 "Omaha Hotel, where I spent the night, I watched the bugs fly around in the parking lot light"

The lost filming spoilers really line up with this song, as we believe Beth was left in a car (parking lot) at some point.

🎶 "Couldn't catch a wink sleeping in my blue jeans. Tears in church kinda killed my dreams"

Missing filming spoilers from the missing church footage, also line up with this song and the "Tears in church, kinda killed my dreams"

Beth could hear them crying, because she couldn't "sleep" in her blue jeans (She wasn't dead)

Beth "i stepped away for a few years"

The song talks about coming home after years "With the wrinkles on our face, nostalgia is setting in"

She left because she was dying like Rick.

"Just want to live my life and this place is dying"

The second last thing the song ends with is a few lines of OH OH

Then it finished like it starts - the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. Alpha and Omega (Jesus)

"The flood took the town the fire took the bank and no one has the money to recover what sank."

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney #omaha #Omaha hotel

Emily posted about...

Orange 🍊 squeeze

A special request for the doc.

Orange crush... he crushed on Beth back in the day.

Daryl found the orange crush when Jesus arrived 🙌

Beginning and end.

The orange squeeze means that when Beth returns, the crush will become the squeeze (Daryl's girlfriend/ lover).

Bethune Town in France 🇫🇷

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #beth x daryl #td #emily kinney

twdmusicboxmystery

Bethyl Asks 48 - Orville Peck Music Video + TPTB Hinting at Beth's Return

angelthefirst1

The music video is super interesting, I'll add the link to my post that you mentioned here

I totally agree on the images being walking dead related. I didn't actually know about this song, so I went and watched it.

The white singlet has always been a clue to Beth's return because it's what comic Andrea wears...

But also...

The red horse 🐎 is war. I wrote about that here.

This brought up some other interesting connections for me. In my post about B or C for effort, I talk about the pool of Bethesda. Which is the pool of healing in Israel where Jesus performed miracles of healing.

Just recently, I started watching Fallout ⚡️ (I saw Satan fall like lightning Luke 10.18)

A third (33%) of the angels fell with him. Nat mentioned 33% just before Michonne finds Rick.

Jesus was also 33 when he was crucified.

Fallout is a show on Amazon Prime and a video game about nuclear WAR.

It's made by Bethesda game studio.

The very first episode (the beginning) is called THE END.

And it has the same cowboy images that 'The curse of the blackened eye' has...

Curse of the blackened eye...👆👇

Fallout...👇

It made me think of the "frontier" that Daryl mentioned at the end of season 11.

Also, in 710, when war is just starting with the Saviours, Daryl at the "frontier" truck protects Carol by saying if she gets struck by lightning anything, I'll kill you to Richard.

This is war. The end is the beginning, and the beginning is the end.

Bulletproof Picasso = mortal head wound that is healed.

Some really interesting and yes weird, walking dead connections here.

510

Rick Grimes in the barn "Everyday he told himself, RIP. Now get up and go to WAR. And then, after a few years of pretending he was dead, he made it out alive."

The next morning, the "Good News" music box plays...

Ephesians 6.12

For our fight (war) is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, and against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

💕

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #beth x daryl #td

A walk down memory lane.

17 missing days.

Norman and Melissa have been spotted on the set of Alexandria in Georgia filming a special segment that will air sometime during season two of Daryl Dixon.

I find it an interesting parallel that AMC decided to film this segment "Going down memory lane." Considering we expect to eventually go down memory lane and see Beth's missing 17 days, which we the audience missed but...

We did see the "founding of Rome/Alexandria" as the next major story after Beth's death, and once again, the end is the beginning.

Our mother has been absent ever since we founded Rome, but there's gonna be a party when the wolf comes home.

Once, the group was brought to the promised land by Aaron, which was just a play on repeating the story of Moses and Aaron leading the Israelites to the promised land.

We then saw the wolves...

Carol and Beth are practically interchangeable, and here I'm looking at what is unseen, and that is Beth, finally getting a tour of (coming home to Rome) Alexandria.

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney

drewmoll03

SUSPICIOUS.. We see you Norman!

First picture is Daryl's first day in Alexandria and he's still pretty much grieving Beth, and I think this scene is where Rick tells him about how Lori always wanted to stay in a place like that..

Then it's a Bts Pic of the scene from The Big Spot which is full of symbolism and it's literally the episode of the bethyl hug🥹

angelthefirst1

Yep! And this one...

X eclipse and the new world.

#bethyl #team delusional #beth greene #beth and daryl

The time of Jacob's (Daryl's/Israel's) trouble and Daniel's 70th week (Revelation) Part 2

Part 1 here

Tara at Oceanside comes across Rachel. Thanks again to @galadrieljones

Because of her original connection, we know that Daryl is a representation of Jacob, who was tricked into marriage with Leah first, then seven years later married the love of his life, Rachel.

Well, here we get a representation of Daryl (Tara) and Rachel.

They shadow the future and past through other characters, and Rachel is considerably younger than Tara, a representation of Daryl and Beth. Not that there's anything wrong with that, so don't @ me. 😆 😆

Jacob had the dream about the ladder to heaven, commonly called Jacob's ladder 🪜 in Beersheba.

The ladder signifies the "bridge" between Heaven and Earth (Jesus/Beth) that will come through Abraham's line and the tribes of Israel - from Dan to Beersheba.

Back on the Windsor bridge, before Tara falls off, we see Health pick up a Beer-sheba 🍺 bottle.

We see a ladder at Oceanside, where Tara (Daryl/Jacob) meets Rachel...

All the bridge symbolism in the show points to Jacob's ladder 🪜 and Beersheba, the line of Abraham and the cure to come through that bloodline (Christ/Beth)

Jacob has his name changed by God to Israel, and while it refers to Daryl, it's also about the larger nation/bloodline.

The term "Time of Jacob's trouble" that I put in the title is just one more way of saying, Daniel's 70th week or the book of Revelation. This is huge topic theologically but at it's basis, they are all about the 7 year period that makes up the biblical end times called the Tribulation.

During this time period, God turns his focus back to Israel (Daryl), which is why now is the season of Daryl/Beth's story.

Both Daryl (Jacob/Israel) and Beth's (house of) bloodline combined are that "bridge" to a cure that undoes the fall and connects heaven and earth again.

Jacob, after Beersheba, travels through the area called Bethel, which means house of God. Daryl and Beth combined - Bethyl reconnects man to the house of God with a cure. Daryl when he finds Beth will have Joseph symbolism around him because he will be the "father" of the cure.

As @bookqueenrules mentioned, in her last post, the working title of DD2 was 'Pilgrim'. The path that Jacob takes is known as Jacob's journey.

We see Abraham in the show drink beer when he arrives at the "promised land" (Alexandria)

And he talks to Michonne about living and dying by the sword (the word of God/bible)

We also see Abraham drink DAN-ville bridge whiskey while in the "promised land"

Abraham gives us a depiction of the northernmost tribe of Israel -Dan when he drinks the "spirit" called Danville.

How do you get into the house of God? Through the cure that comes from Abraham's line - Dan to Beersheba.

Next to the ladder (Jacob's ladder) with Tara at Oceanside 🪜 we see a kite.

Emily posted about a kite (bridge to heaven) saying I AM WHO I AM," which is the name of God, and it represents the cure (world health organisation) and showing the apple 🍎 tree of the fall. Separation.

I am who I am cures the fall and separation.

We see a representation of this fall symbolism with Rick and Michonne in 615.

Michonne (Eve) picks up the apple 🍎 and eats it. The clock is pointing to 6,7, and 2

672 in strong concordance, which is a concordance of biblical names and numbers and their meaning. 672 means to depart.

Separate, fall from God.

A hint to the fall and departure from God at the fall.

We see Michonne give the fruit to Rick (Adam). He eats and says, "This is GOOD."

A call back to Genesis when God says his creation was good before the fall.

Then God looked over all he had made, and he saw that it was very good!

Apple symbolism is both a separation symbol and a reunion symbol because the good (perfect) cure (Jesus/Beth) restores the separation.

Michonne says it is good...because Jesus came through.

Going backwards from this apple moment, Jesus is introduced. So the backwards timeline is fall, then Jesus making it good. Through the line of Dan to Beersheba.

Going forwards we have a representation of the end times Jesus pulls through (cure arrives), and then Negan, a version of the Antichrist, is introduced.

Abraham asks Who's Negan? The answer...Ding dong HELLS bells 🔔

When Negan is introduced, he makes everyone kneel before him, which is a depiction of worship...

Revelation 13.4

People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, 'Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?'

Negan is a charismatic monster, kind of likeable even when being so evil. This is actually one of the traits that the antichrist is said to possess. He will be charming, a gifted communicator, and military leader.

When Negan is introduced in season 7, we see him tell Rick that this is the new world order...

The antichrist creates a global system over which he rules, and he takes everything.

He makes everyone get the mark of the beast or be killed. We saw a depiction of this going backwards to Alexandria (Revived Roman Empire) with the "A" stamp on the right hand and the W mark on the foreheads of the wolves.

Jessie says, "You're one of us now", her horse shoe necklace is related to the four-horseman of Revelation which i talk about here.

While he rises in Europe, his rule reaches worldwide. 🌎

Emily in Europe with her "Obey world wide" beanie.

Emily at the Anne Frank museum (Annelies Marie Frank was a German-born Jewish girl who kept a diary in which she documented life in hiding under Nazi persecution during the German occupation of the Netherlands)

It's no coincidence that Daryl (Jacob/Israel) was taken prisoner by Negan but refused to bow, he represents end times Israel.

If Daryl didn't escape, we can assume he would have been killed by Negan for not bowing down, bending the knee.

At the halfway mark, into the 7 year treaty (tribulation) that Antichrist makes with Jacob (Daryl/Israel), he breaks it and goes after Jacob's line (Israel) to persecute and kill them.

This is depicted by Negan killing Abraham. Antichrist goes after his line, that's why he was the one picked to die.

The show is depicting all aspects of the end times combined, through many characters, while Beth and Rick have Christ returning symbolism, they also have Antichrist symbolism. Beth with her mortal head wound is a dead (pardon the pun) giveaway.

I've already talked about how Negan is a version of the antichrist here, he represents antichrist/Satan who leads the battle of Armageddon against God and loses. He then gets locked up for the Millennium and let back out for "a short time".

We have seen this play out in the waling dead when Negan lost the all out war, was locked up, then released and now in Dead City has become a leader again.

The episode Morning Star 10.11 gave us more end time symbolism, when the antichrist attacks Jacob/Israel.

The bible gives us the meaning and location of Hilltop when Jesus says...

Rev 22.16

“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

Morning star (Jesus/Beth) is a cure reference coming through (Daryl/Jacob's) line of Israel. Connected to the star of Kind David, who was also in the line of Abraham.

I've talked about this imagery with Emily before here and here.

Hilltop here, was a representation of Israel (Jacob's line) being attacked. With the wings of the Archangel Michael having Daryl's (Jacob's) back.

Before they go out to fight, we hear Eugene singing about the end of the world...

Antichrist tries to kill Jacob/Israel but also anyone who won't take the mark of the beast.

Alpha be-heading's gave us a depiction of this verse...

Rev 20.4

I saw thrones, and sitting on those thrones were the ones who had been given the right to judge. I also saw the souls of the people who had their heads cut off because they had told about Jesus and preached God's message. They were the same ones who had not worshiped the beast or the idol, and they had refused to let its mark be put on their foreheads or hands. They will come to life and rule with Christ for 1,000 years.

I will leave it here for today, but will come back soon to talk on fire symbolism, and the days of Noah.

Beth is Valenica (town in Spain) meaning Strong; healthy.

The four horsemen of Revelation.

White horse rides...

And, Rick gets taken into the sky and is next seen again in the Millennium.

Revelation 6.1

The 7 seals on the scroll 📜

The Lamb (Jesus) opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering and to conquer.

The white horse 🐎 represents a false peace that the antichrist rides in on. He makes a false 7-year (Revelation) peace agreement with Israel (Jacob/Daryl)

Antichist try's to destroy Jacob's ladder (bridge to God) during the time of Jacob's trouble.

Rick is Beth, and symbolically, the seal on the scroll 📜 being opened for the white horse was used to advertise DD2.

1st seal opened on the scroll 📜 , white horse, rider with a bow...

The red (scarlet) horse rides 🐎

‭Revelation 6:3-4

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” [4] Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

The red horse 🐎 represents WAR, and the antichrist taking peace from the earth 🌎

The black horse 🐎 rides...

‭Revelation 6:5-6

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. [6] Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

The black horse represents famine and food shortages, but the rich (oil and wine) won't be affected.

Buttons the black horse is eating and then gets eaten.

At Alexandria (revived Roman empire that the antichrist rises from), we see rationing of food around the same time we see the black horse ride. 🐎

The pale GREEN horse 🐎 rides...

‭Revelation 6:7-8

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” [8] I looked, and there before me was a pale green horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Nelly was Beth's (house of) Greene horse 🐎

The name Nelly is a female form of Daniel, which is from the Hebrew name Daniyyel, meaning "God is my judge"

Nelly (Daniel's 70th week) that Daryl went looking for Sofia on.

Daryl on Nelly went looking for Sofia. Sofia, with her the days of Noah rainbow 🌈 t-shirt, came out of the ark/barn dead (death and Hades)

Matthew 24.37

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man (Christ/Beth)

Noah wore this t-shirt... a depiction of Noah gathering one male and one female of every animal to put onto the Ark. The stalk represents a baby, meaning the animal line will continue.

The music box of 510 went into Noah's Ark/barn and played the gospel good news after the rain stopped. 🌈

The end is the beginning, and the beginning is the end. ♾️

#team delusional #team defiance #bethyl #beth greene #team beth lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #beth greene lives #td #beth x daryl #emily kinney #Days of Noah #four horsemen of the apocalypse #four horseman #beginning and end #revelation

bookqueenrules

Daryl’s Pilgrimage: Why Daryl Dixson Season 2's Working Title Was Pilgrim

Most of us know that “Pilgrim” was the working title of DD season 2. I believe they changed it to The Book of Carol to throw yet another bone to Carylers because they will not be getting romantic Carly. No matter what the reason, you can’t escape that Season 2 is about Daryl’s pilgrimage. We have gotten some CRAZY hints that this pilgrimage is all about finding Beth.

Exhibit A: Check out the EXACT matching colors between the signage for DD 2 Pilgrim and Emily’s dress in the video for B or C for effort which came out last Fall.

Meaning of the word pilgrim:

A pilgrim (from the Latin peregrinus) is a traveler (literally one who has come from afar) who is on a journey to a holy place.

So, what is Daryl’s pilgrimage? It’s his journey to a "holy" place that will make him “hole”. A place that has that “something” he first went out looking for. A place that will contain his happy ending.

The Latin form of “peregriuns” is used for a another famous hunter, the The peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus), also known simply as the peregrine.

Two interesting facts about these birds are that they mate for life and often travel far, usually to a “high place”, to nest. They have been known to even build their nest in skyscrapers. This bird is similar in coloring to the stuffed penguin Daryl finds on the boat in episode one.

Exhibit B: The Camino de Santiago

This is the pilgrimage mentioned in episode 6 of DD season 1. Here is a little background info on the pilgrimage.

Let’s talk about the Hebrew root of the English name, James:

@angelthefirst1 and @frangipanilove have both done wonderful posts about how Daryl=Jacob/Israel right down to being tied to Leah, even though he never loved her. Then, he had to work another 7 years for his “Rachel” or in Daryl’s case, Beth. Another point here is that Jacob leaves his homeland and journey's a long distance, to his mother's people, and there he finds his love, Rachel. It's on this journey that Jacob has the Jacob's ladder dream and names the spot where his head laid during the dream, Beth-el.

So, you could say that this pilgrimage is the Way of Jacob(Daryl). The route starts in various points in France as seen above but ends at the Santiago de Compostela where St. James' remains are said to be.

Compostela means Field of Stars. It comes from the Latin “campus stellae” and is based on the stars of the Milky Way that, according to legend since the Middle Ages, had been outlined by the apostle St. James and followed by pilgrims to reach his tomb.

So, pilgrims follow these stars from France, across the Pyrenees Mountains to find their way to Santiago de Compostela. This ties in perfectly with the Sirius “Dog Star” symbolism we see throughout TWD.

Daryl Dixon season 2 is all about Daryl’s pilgrimage. This spiritual journey will restore Daryl’s faith in God and lead him to his “happy ending” which will be a family with Beth. Just as it was Jacob's children who are the fathers of all of the nation of Israel. I believe it will be Daryl and Beth's children or descendants who will "save" what is left of humanity.

angelthefirst1

Beautifully put! I didn't know that about the remains of James, that's really interesting, I'll have to do some digging into that, I wonder if they will end up filming there...

They are ticking of every biblical name being used, and I've wondered about where James fits in.

Everything is about Israel, the promised land, and the promise God made to the line of Abraham in the last days.

The "nest" is a representation of Jerusalem, which God said he put his name on. I love this stuff and can't wait to put together more on it and how it's represented in the show.

Good pick up on the colours in the pilgrim pic and Emily's outfit 👌 😍

Also, I believe @galadrieljones did some amazing posts on Jacob/Daryl, too.

#team delusional #beth is coming #bethyl #beth greene lives #team defiance #twd daryl and beth #beth is alive #beth greene

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