[antmanns]

me: the lgbt community was formed to fight against homophobia and transphobia

y'all: that, historically, did not happen bc i don’t agree with it

[calexsienne]

How convenient that the community was formed from the very beginning to include only and all the people you personally want it to include and has never once changed in all of its history.

[e-seal-deactivated20210319]

You tagged aphobia but this doesn’t even mention ace people 🤔

[calexsienne]

So are you saying op is a biphobe? Perisexist? Something else? When op responded back they didn’t object to any of my tags so did they just not see them? Op’s claim is a classic aphobe talking point. Don’t blame me for noticing that.

[e-seal-deactivated20210319]

I’m not saying anything you’re doing all the talking

[calexsienne]

You do realize that you saying op never mentioned ace people is exactly the same as a conservative politician enacting legislation that just so happens to hurt black people, then when someone calls it racist all the conservative pundits say that the legislation never directly mentioned race, right?

Like, it’s really obvious what you’re trying to do. You’re trying to gaslight me and give any third parties reading this the excuse to call me “the real bigot.” I on the other hand think people are knowledgable enough to recognize coding.

[sexhaver]

oh my GOD

[first-lesbian-standing-deactiva]

Holy fucking shit

[eclipsebykimlipmp3-deactivated2]

no one else is gonna ask wtf a perisexist is

[kimahri-deactivated20190927]

I like, can’t with this site anymore

[pinkprettycure]

Aces are the new blacks

[yeezy-nation]

hello??

[kylieminogueofficial]

Anyone in this thread eat ass?

[atheism-populism-egalitarianism]

The fuck just happened

[theeggshavelegs-deactivated2019]

“If it doesn’t explicitly include me it is (whatever the fuck) phobic ” y'all are stupid

[until-lune]

Y'all are stupid.

[archivedtdp-deactivated20240111]

I actually figured it was ace discourse - I was just reblogging it because I find that person’s behavior to be ridiculous and entitled, ergo it goes into the pile.

[antmanns]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I KNOW THIS WAS A HOT TAKE ON MY BEHALF BUT PLS STOP REBLOGGING THIS IM LOSING BRAINCELLS. ANYWAY THE LGBT COMMUNITY WASNT FORMED TO FIGHT AGAINST APHOBIA AND THATS THAT PLEASE READ A BOOK IM QUITE LITERALLY BEGGING

[antmanns]

hey folks this is an old account that i had when i was 15. i don't agree with half the shit i posted anymore (ie that biphobia is just homophobia,, that was Dumb) however i do still and always will believe the lgbt community is for those who experience same sex attraction and/or aren't cis. thank u and good night

[diachronism-deactivated20190330]

tbh ace discourse is so distressing to me bc like. i highly doubt inclusionists even understand what the lgbt community is all about? 

like ive seen inclusionists legit ask what resources cishet aro/ace people and cis aroace people could ~~supposedly~~ steal and like. do you know why there are lgbt homeless shelters? like has it even crossed your mind why lgbt people cant go to standard shelters? its bc wed get kicked out in the best case scenario and get assaulted or murdered in the worst case. who is gonna kick someone out of an homeless shelter bc they dont feel sexual attraction?

the same goes for lgbt scholarships, hotlines and so on. we need these resources bc cishets either dont give a shit about us or they want us dead.

and the lgbt community and the ace community also have extremely different goals. i support the ace community. i think we should make people aware of informed consent, we should talk about the sexualization found in our society, about how sex and romance arent the only things that make us human and people can live a happy life without them. but the lgbt community isnt the place where to do it.

listen. for lgbt people sex is often a demonized aspect of their lifes. homophobic sexual jokes; ‘predatory gay man/lesbian/trans person’ stereotypes;  equating gay relationships with sexual intercourse;  sexual harassment suffered especially by wlw’ the slut shaming suffered by bi, pan and poly people; corrective rape; ‘love the sinner hate the sin’ mentality, are all things the lgbt community is supposed to be free of. now i hope you understand why, for someone struggling to see their sexual attraction as something good and normal, in the only safe haven they have, having somebody preach that ‘not feeling sexual attraction is ok!’, is downright disrespectful and hurtful, even tho its a valid statement.

the lgbt community and the ace community can be allied, but we cannot be united, and thats not hate speech, thats just me caring for my own.

[goobra]

this isn’t an ask i received and i don’t want to get op involved but what the fuck does this anon mean

[lesbeans-on-toast]

lesbians cant be asexual uwu we’re all dirty dykey allos

[goobra]

uh full offense but let’s stop pretending that “cis LGs” are the only people who can be transphobic in the community, as if cis bi and pan people aren’t capable of being JUST as transphobic.

you don’t get a free pass at being transphobic just bc you’re attracted to multiple genders. nice try at skirting blame tho

[elloelloallo]

Anyway, in light of recent events, ace discourse should bite the dust. We’re living in a world scheduled for death, being eaten from the inside out by maggots. The ship is sailing into the rocks and we’re arguing about how much each of us are paid.

Our common struggle is the struggle to survive against oppression. Everyone faces that on some level, we should be making as many allies as possible in this fight but instead we are ruthlessly dividing ourselves over nothing. In the discourse that nothing is “resources”, a fight over minimal access to a billion dollar pool of aid. It’s meaningless, pathetic in its pettiness and hairsplitting. More importantly, no one is gaining anything. We’re all the worse off for it.

Oh, and just to be clear, this is directed solely at exclusionists, all those who started the conflict. People defending themselves against a sudden, random attack aren’t responsible for its effects. No one is ever obligated to roll over in the face of aggression.

Stop thinking you’re helping anybody here. You’re doing nothing but masturbating. Accept that and continue or recognize its futility and drop it. You, the exclusionist, are the only one initiating and the only one who can de-escalate. Get that through your head and we’ll all be in a much better position.

[discourseful]

i’ve seen some obnoxious posts from you before but man this one really is up there

[lgbtqiaaplus]

“Our common struggle is the struggle to survive against oppression” are you not hearing when we said cishet aces arent oppressed. thats the reason we’re excluding them.

[elloelloallo]

You could try understanding my words instead of not doing that. Regardless of aces being oppressed for their asexuality, all aces are oppressed in one way or another. The totality of oppressions is our enemy, and all theory, cough cough, should keep that in mind.

[discourseful]

you literally said exclusionists are masturbating like why do you expect us to even bother trying to understand this mess

[dykes-deactivated20200607]

also this entire clumping of oppression as one makes it WAY too easy for people to absolve themselves of privilege. like yeah, i’m gay and face homophobia, but i’m also white. me being gay doesn’t mean i’m not privileged in other ways. and the fact that you made this post condemning exclusionists and saying their terrible views isn’t making today’s situation any better… people can be exclusionists and be against nazis at the same time. you made this post to make exclusionists look bad for caring about cishets in their community when there are bigger fish to fry (because apparently if you talk about it it means you don’t care about anything else) yet you making this post contradicts exactly that. why do you care so much

[unitedrussia-remade]

holy shit no one is marching on the streets chanting “kill all aces” and “heil allos”, this is not about you and and your petty discourse, real people have died!! how dare you use this terrifying display of hatred and violence to make a point about how exclusionists are bad, this is absolutely disgusting,stop making everything about you!!!!!!!

[sapropel]

Imagine showing this post to literally anyone off tumblr. Like imagine showing this to an actual real life activist.

[lesbeans-on-toast]

“ We’re living in a world scheduled for death, being eaten from the inside out by maggots. The ship is sailing into the rocks and we’re arguing about how much each of us are paid.”  didnt know john green had a discourse blog omg!!!!! 😍😍😍

[lavenderjunkie-deactivated20180]

Asexuality is valid and there’s nothing wrong with being ace but every time a cis/het ace person uses the word q***r or calls themselves LGBT on my dash u owe me $20

[theoutli3r]

new rule: every time an exclusionist tries to tell any member of the asexual community - regardless of their romantic orientation - that they’re either a) not LBGTQ or b) attempts to police the way they refer to their sexual identity, they owe *us* $20

now dig deep into those pockets kids, bc my sexuality isn’t up for debate and my queer ass also charges interest

[lesbeans-on-toast]

this isnt policing identity. the q slur has never historically targeted cishet ace/aros and cis aroaces. its specifically used to verbally abuse people attracted to the same gender and trans/nb people. ace/aro people who are trans, nb and/or attracted to the same gender can reclaim the q slur- but cishet ace/aros and cis acearos cant because its not used as an attack on someone for being cis, het, aro or ace.

as an example: someone telling me, a non transfem lesbian, that i cant use the f slur isnt invalidating or policing my identity. its simply acknowledging that someone using slurs that dont actually target them makes those that actually are targeted feel scared and unsafe, and is disrespectful to their experiences

[theoutli3r]

if you don’t want ppl to refer to you personally as “queer” that’s totally fine

however, in regards to the actual history of the word itself, your response was historically inaccurate

also the way I choose to describe my sexual identity isn’t up for debate

also you owe me $20

[lesbeans-on-toast]

how am i telling u how to describe ur identity? ur not cishet ace/aro or cis acearo, i literally said an ace/aro person who is lgbtpn can reclaim the q slur you didnt even read what i said lmao?

u just linked me to a post abt the spinster movement - a part of LESBIAN history. someone being assumed to be a lesbian doesnt mean they get to claim lesbian experiences, that’s not how it works. some trans men are assumed to be lesbians, some bi women are assumed to be lesbians - that does NOT mean they can claim lesbian history, lesbian slurs and claim to know the lesbian experience. same applies here. 

the connotations of what asexuality in women was thought to mean has been left out, the post you have linked has twisted history to favour your argument - a potential lack of sexual desire pointed to the possibility of a woman being a lesbian. that was the thought process. it wasnt just persecuting people for being asexual, the terminology did not have the same connotations that it does now. if you are cis and not attracted to the same gender you cannot reclaim the q slur. also: autismserenity is a pedophile apologist. do not link me to them again. 

[lesbitchka]

if only yall were as invested in not being homophobic as you are in cishets having the right to call themselves queer

[buzzbian]

i love seeing young lesbians.

lesbians who are 13, 14, 15, etc. i love seeing them be so sure of themselves, knowing who they are and who they love. it’s so hard to figure that out when you’re young, especially being surrounded by so much heteronormativity and the world telling you that being a lesbian is wrong or too sexual for kids. i had so much trouble finding out who i was at that age. i’m so proud of them.

if you’re a young lesbian, don’t let anyone tell you that you’re too young to know or that you can’t be because being a lesbian is inherently sexual. it’s not.

[lesbitchka]

maybe people wouldn’t be so surprised that there are so many lesbians in the discourse if they realized that for a lot of us, mogai hell along with the ace community and the liberal use of the split attraction model made it so much harder to figure out that we were lesbians

and now that we’ve reached the conclusion of our self-discovery sagas, we don’t want other lesbians to have to go through the 9 circles of mogai hell bullshit

[histerriblefluffiness]

ace exclusionists don’t deserve positivity

[lemon-bunny]

thinking LGBT people who are uncomfy around cishets in their safe spaces don’t deserve positivity or support.. revolutionary 

[antiblackness-archive]

now is not the time to make pastel “punch nazis” edits and shirts and stickers. your performative allyship is unwanted and greatly unappreciated! now more than ever is the time for goyim to actually get active in their activism. you should be listening to Jewish people and boosting our voices. you should be calling out casual antisemitism and working on that which you harbor. it is not, it never was, and never will be the time to sit back and watch as antisemitism continues to rise. goyim can and should reblog.

[asdhjuewvjityjbgtgg]

they literally didnt include gay ppl

[officialcisblog]

"There's no laws against ace people"

Yeah and there’s no laws against an autistic learning disabled person like myself but I still face oppression due the lack of resources, awareness, and accommodations for people like myself to be properly taught and treated in a school environment and the public, but whoopdedoo here we are.

[thismachinekills]

the difference is that its legal to pay an autistic person less because they are autistic which, is literally a law against autistic people, so try again

[officialcisblog]

Hey try actually reading my post about how I’m learning disabled and I’m talking about my disability in schools and dealing with it in the public.

That’s why I said “learning disabled” and not just “autistic”

[thismachinekills]

ok im learning disabled too and its completely legal for teachers to fail u for being autistic unless u have an IEP. anyway post cancelled go think on how ur drawing invisible parallels

[officialcisblog]

You literally just proved my point, lmao, there are basically no laws and little resources to protect and inform about learning disabled people but there’s also no laws against them, just like there’s basically no laws and little resources to protect and inform about ace people, or laws to harm them. But they’re still both oppressed.

Like damn round of applause for you.

[thismachinekills]

you. wow i cant even believe what a damn reach youre pulling

[sailor-moon39]

This just irritates me so much.

“13 year olds shouldn’t identify as ace/aro because it is sexualizing young children.” By that logic, then 13 year olds can’t identify as gay/bi/pan/demi/any other LGBT+ sexuality either!

It’s just so stupid and accusing someone (like me, a 17 year old ace) of being a pedophile just for believing that 13+ minors can identify however they want is fucking gross.

[straightrepulsed]

did you know that: LGBT identities aren’t inherently sexual

[lavalampz-deactivated20250806]

can someone PLEASE answer my question? how are you aro and ace but you date people!!! how are you not attracted to them but youre in a relationship with them!!!!! thats just unhealthy, the point of romantic relationships is being attracted to each other! someone fucking explain please

[lgbt-nothing]

people are saying things about not romantic dates, and correct me if im wrong but isnt that just “"hanging out, with a friend”“ ? ?? ???

[lesbitchka]

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