god damn will this ever stop

Val, 25, she/her Made a separate Asmundr/Home blog to separate it from my art blog

[assmundr]

Hi, this is Val. Some of you may remember me thanks to the hour long (and extremely outdated) Asmundr/Home video that I coughed up in like 2019. I keep thinking I'm done with this virulent cancer of a comic but it keeps weasling it's way back into my subconscious every few months like it's a midwestern debt collector. So I'm back, I guess, seeing that the comic and it's creator are now worse than ever. If that was even possible anymore.

[sinceredragonslander]

Press F to pay respects for the fallen comic.

Obligatory counterpart

[sinceredragonslander]

Okay back for a third time to say that the newest update where Miss Maple yells at Whisper for killing Ashwood is the most satisfying this comic has felt in a long while. I'm certain it's meant to be a "moment of weakness" for Maple, like she's just grieving and will inevitably apologize to Whisper when something bad happens after he runs off and it's her fault, but boy does it feel good. The excuse that Whisper can't be faulted for "misunderstanding" because Maple didn't specify "which coyote" he helped? Seriously? Probably the only one she SAW HIM help. I thought he was supposed to be smart. His family and Little Miss in specific have told him and showed him killing is bad soo many times, I just can't accept this being the natural continuation of the "I didn't know!" narrative. In what world is this something Whisper didn't know not to do???? And a few pages after Little Miss was blaming herself for not teaching Whisper enough, too. He's been acting directly against his family's wishes for so long now, how is any of this anyone's fault but his own? How is any of this comparable to what happened to Little Miss and more worthy of a story to tell than her own? Sorry for going off about IDK again I miss when this comic wasn't about Whisper putting down disabled people and acting innocent after

Noooo, you spoiled me!!! / joke

Miss Maple has all the rights to be mad at Whisper, and tbh I wouldn't even be that mad at her if she had done worse. She just saw the kid she helped raise kill her childhood friend for no good reason.

And Whisper is insufferable at this point. He has killed two disabled people just because "kekeke the Forest wants it".

If Whisper (and the forest) is a creature with awareness who chooses to kill the weak, then you can't argue that it's mother nature working or whatever. It's a fucking teenager going around with a lethal injection looking for disabled people.

It's awful and I genuely hope Whisper's arc is about him realizing his mistakes, instead of a bullshit "I'm actually half demon, so I think different than you".

I agree, Whisper's story has nothing to do in a story like Little Miss's. Dividing the comic in two would have been better.

[assmundr]

I don't think we heard from you for a while, so I'm curious what you think about the whole Sleepy having taken a break, the comments in that announcement page and the recent drop of the remaining drawn pages and closing statement.

I will expand on this a bit later, but what I am going to say is that I am rather frustrated over Sleepy seemingly still not understanding WHY she received the backlash/criticism she did? Like, what I'm getting from her post "people were mean to me about my comic and that made me not wanna make it anymore" It's like she's focusing on the HOW she got the criticism and not WHY she got it. It's like talking to a wall

[assmundr]

You competently misunderstood why SD closed closed comments & stopped posting. It's because commenters were calling other people ableists for saying a fictional ungulate with shattered legs and spine is probably better off mercy killed, and accusing those same people of wanting to mercy kill disabled humans too (???). SD literally got DMs from some of those accusers telling them how offended they were at the "ableist" comments of others. That's why SD dropped the comic.

Anon, I mean this in the nicest way possible when I say this, but if the past decade and a half of my presence on the internet taught me anything, it's to never trust anyone's statement on someone's actions without solid proof.

Like, I'm not saying you're lying when you say this was the last straw for SongDog, but that I was not there to witness this when it was going down and I have also not seen a proof of this happening either and in what manner. So I am withdrawing from giving my opinion on this happening because I literally cannot form it without proper context

However, this still does not mean what SongDog did was somehow out of line. Even if their decision to close the comments and stop the upload of their comic was "I just don't feel like it anymore" that is still valid and 100% within their right to do. People argue in the comments all the time, and I'm sure this also wasn't the first instance of someone messaging them about it either. The way I understand it, this was simply the straw that broke the camel's back and SongDog is within their right to react as they see fit

[assmundr]

Any thoughts on Songdogx shutting off comments and going private when some people were commenting ableist things and others pointed out the ableism but not saying anything about it or admonishing the ableism, instead brushing it off as just fighting?

What I'm about to says seems to be kind of a hot take?? Based on what I've heard from other people when they were giving their opinion on this. But. I actually think this is not an issue at all? At least not in the way people present it. SongDog is fully within their right to do this. They don't owe their viewers anything, including access to comments and the remainder of their (free) comic.

I don't tend to paruse through their comment sections (mostly because the critical thinking ability of people on CF in general seems to be akin to that of a stale chocolate éclair and some of the takes I come across make my brain melt) so I can't say what exactly was the reason for which they closed their comments and stopped uploading, since I didn't see it happen. Because SongDog said one thing, you're saying another.

I will say however that as much as they're responsible for somewhat regulating their comments, it is not up to them to dismantle any brewing fights, arguments, harassment, insults and the like, and I think expecting this of them is really entitled and kinda idiotic? Why blame the author for not managing the raging people in the comments, when it should be up to the actual people to not start stupid fights like this?? It's not SongDog's fault if someone decides to start an argument under their pages, rather it's on the person themselves for not being able to properly regulate themselves.

I also fully support this decision. Whether SongDog really was messaged by someone the way they say they were, or whether this was over a fight about ableism, isn't the key issue here. The key issue is that people can't behave and honestly, what do you expect from someone like SongDog?

SongDog isn't a publisher and this isn't their job either. They're just some guy on the internet that posts animal comics as a hobby. Aside from their obligations to Patreon supporters, they don't owe their FREE audience anything. Sure, it sucks you possibly won't see the rest of the comic, I'm bumped out too! And it also might suck to be told this, but you're not entitled to seeing it, just like you aren't entitled to an open comment section on any comic, not just SongDog's. They're uploading their hobby art FOR FREE onto this part of the internet and they're also fully within their right to decide they don't wanna do that anymore, whatever their reason is.

[assmundr]

have you read everything is fine?

I've read it, can't say I'd recommend it. The premise is interesting, but imo the execution is lacking.

[assmundr]

what are your favorite webcomics?

You can have a better peep here where I talk about the various comics I read/have read. Most of the ones in the S and A tiers are my favourite, although some of the "worse" ones like Caspanas or Space Vixen would be among the favs too, despite their lower rating.

For webcomics specifically:

1. Jumalanpelko

2. Horse Age (on hiatus)

3. Avialae (18+)

4. Destiny Intertwined

5. Brutalizer (on hiatus)

There's many more I like. Little Trashmaid, I Didn't Know, the afformentioned Caspanas, Tomes of Darkness, Golden Shrike, Kings and Vagabonds. A friend from a server held a gun to my head about reading Osora not too long ago and while I'm very "egh" about the world building aspect of this comic, the relationships between the main cast of characters is 👌

For physical/officially released comics, I will forever and ever recommend Beneath the Trees Where Nobody Sees. A sequel is slowly coming out and every new chapter I get to read is like heroin. Beautiful Darkness is a great read, so is Beasts of Burden. I enjoyed the recent adaptation of Watership Down and while they're not written too well, I have a soft spot for the Ghost Academy comic trilogy.

[assmundr]

"Take a shot every time a fan TLK comic doesn't have rape/weird sex stuff as a part of its story" is a game that would leave you stone-cold sober by the time it's over.

[sinceredragonslander]

"My choice was to never call out my rapist brother and for that your mother is about to be raped. I'm still the good and goofy dad, hohoho!"

Btw, this looks like it's ripped out from Bambi 2 and I'm afraid to say that the family friendly Disney DVD sequel is leagues more mature and better written than The Dragon Slayer will ever be.

Art by Sleepysundae

[sinceredragonslander]

Transcript at the end of the post.

Sleepy... Darling... Have you read your own comic?

Dyktor wasn't "fooled", he didn't give two shits about everyone else. He saw his brother invent a lie after trying to rape a mare. A lie that then turned into a whole cult that allowed him to have horses eating from his hoof. Dyktor didn't move a single hair until his favourite wife was in danger.

Until then, all other the other mares? Unimportant.

Caly gave Crisis a prophecy so he would kick out his daughter? (And he knew this, because Dandy told him). Unimportant.

As long as Dyktor's stuff, aka his mares, weren't involved, he didn't give a single fuck. He knew his brother was a rapist from that first time. And he didn't do ANYTHING.

If you actually checked out your own script, Sleepy, you would have noticed these mistakes. And I wouldn't be pointing this at you if you weren't such a baby and implied that people are projecting, when in reality, you wrote a rapist apologist and are trying to paint him as a cinnamon roll.

The fun thing is, I would have loved Dyktor if his deal was a perfect parent figure that slowly deteriorates as the protagonist realizes he wasn't a good person. But that would require to be a good writer, and we don't have that in this hellscape of a comic.

Transcript:

Edit: Comments are off again. I have a full time job outside of working on this comic and I do NOT have time to deal with this every few pages. Yes, Dyktor is narratively considered a good person. Flawless? No. But he knowingly did more good than bad. I believe if you really read the comic, and stop projecting your own ideas about what he did and didn't know about what Caly was doing, you'd realize he was just as fooled by Caly as everyone else is.

[thestinkk]

HEAVY WARNING FOR MENTION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND IMAGES FROM THE DRAGON SLAYER COMIC DEPICTING THOSE THEMES. ALL ART IS BY SLEEPYSUNDAE.

There's been something on my mind regarding people's rightful concerns with the excessive amount of on-screen sexual assaults in The Dragon Slayer, and how when talking about them the number I see most often is 4. This made me wonder if it's accurate when people say there's 4 assaults so far, and so I went back and sifted through the pages of the comic to find out.. and unfortunately, I discovered the number is actually a lot more than 4.

So, I've compiled a list of all the instances so far in the comic where SA occurs or is mentioned to have occurred below. Spoilers for the comic, obviously.

1.

Aaand the first assualt occurs just seven pages in, when a random stallion attempts to assault Dandy. And Dandy (our current main character at this point) hasn't even had a line of dialog yet! Oh boy.

2.

The second SA attempt happens on page 12 to 19.. and it's Crisis assaulting Dandy. His own (underage) daughter. Two SAs in less than the first 20 pages.. just 6 pages between eachother.. what an introduction.

3.

Page 60. A random stallion tries to assault Pierces' (UNDERAGE) older sister.

4?.

Page 63-64. Just a few pages after the last attempted SA.. And now we come to the first instance that may or may not count. Caly is ABOUT to try and coerce Dandy in order to SA her but is cut off. Does this count?

5.

Another few pages later, page 67. Caly is suggested to have attempted to assault/come onto the mystery mare and then chases her down/attempts to assault her when she doesn't reciprocate. That's 3 seperate instances of SA or attempted SA within 7 pages..

6+??

Dyktor mentions a few pages later that Caly has been chasing mareS PLURAL who are unwilling. Suggesting multiple previous assaults off-screen. Notably, all Dyktor has to say about that is that it's "wrong" and "messed up". Does this count?? Perhaps not as it isn't on-screen?? But it is said to have happened. So..

6??7??

Page 83. King Severe threatens to "pick off your(Dyktor's) mares one by one". Is he threatening assault?? Sexual or?? Is he just threatening to kill them?? The wording is unclear but knowing the story's world/context so far makes this seem like he's threatening SA. Does this count?? Maybe, maybe not.

6.

Page 97. S'mile's SA via coercion at the hand(hoof?) of Caly. Notably the one that Sleepy insists doesn't count as SA..

7.

And that brings us to the most recent example. Pages 129-130. Caly assaults Dandy via coercion. It should be noted that Sleepy doesn't call this what it is(rape!) just as she didn't with S'mile's assault. Because apparantly no guys, it's not rape! He just manipulated her into having sex! It's toootally different! /sar

So, if you were counting along that would mean we have at least 6 on-screen SAs minimum, or 7 if you count threats of sexual assault. 8 if you count that and the attempt at SA via coercion that was cut off before anything could happen, but later is attempted again and does happen. Or, a maximum of 9/10+ if you count the additional assaults that were said to have happened in dialog..

This would mean, if we count all of the examples up to page 130(the most recent SA), that on average there is an instance of on-screen or mentioned SA every 21.6 pages at minimum, OR one SA every 13 pages at the maximum.

That is frankly, in my opinion, insane. People really were right when they say we get an SA every 20 pages..

If there's anything you think I've missed feel free to tell me in the replies.. and I'm interested in whether you all would lean more toward counting all 10 of the instances of SA listed here, or the base 6 when it comes to the discussion of this.. I can imagine either way that this won't be the last time a character is assaulted though, since we may only be halfway through the comic and Sleepy has eluded that it gets worse for the characters.

[assmundr]

Hey, anyone remember when Sleepy said SA isn't gonna be a frequent/main topic of this comic? No? Only me? Oh-

[assmundr]

I got several anon questions asking me for comic recomendations. So of course I made a damn tier list

*gets asked what comic to recommend

*immediatelly forgets every comic I have read ever

Anyway, you know the disclaimer. This is just my personal opinion, opinions are subjective, I may like different things than you do and vice verse, therefore a comic I ranked very low may be something you love yada yada if you disagree, lemme know about it, the ask me button is right there

Also warning that several of these comics contain NSFW imagery. I will of course put up a label on that comic when I talk about it, you have been warned. If you're a minor, don't go looking at those.

Detailed ranking below the cut

S Tier:

Jumalanpelko: No notes about this comic. It's perfect. I have been thinking long and hard and I honestly cannot think of a single thing that bothers me about it. The art is great, the chracters are great, the story is great, so is the worldbuilding, pace matches the events in the comic. The author is also very lovely and very active on their tumblr account. Again, no notes, this is a 10/10 comic

Horse Age: The best way I can describe this is that it has Watership Down vibes if Watership Down was about horses living in a paleolithic era. What I often find lacking in a lot of animal comics is that most of them don't really give their animal characters culture aside from "eat, sleep, have babies" but Horse Age does exactly that, similar to Watership Down, while also managing to keep the animals very animalistic instead of turning all the characters into human wearing animal cotumes. It's so so clear the animal characters have a deeply rooted culture, not just the horses, but others too. The comic takes great effort in establishing relationships between the herd members, so they all feel like a community, a family. Characters aren't black-and-white, have differing personalities and desires for their future, life, loved ones. Art is stunning. The comic is currently on an indefinite hiatus, but still very much worth a read. I personally use it as a palette clenser whenever I read a new page of Dragon Slayer

Ghost of Gulag: A story about a blind tiger and a cowardly wolf set in a post-Soviet taiga. Everytime I read this comic, I discover a new layer of intrigue I have not seen before that, be it the tiger, the wolfs, the boar, or the story of the human characters that are intertwined with the story of the animals, who serve as parallels to current story events in a delicious dance of symbolism and real world history. Essentially every character is a shade of gray. Updates are sporadic and far in between, but it's very much worth a read.

Corpse: A short comic by Ratt, the author of Golden Shrike. Wonderful, wonderful character journey that touches in topics like loneliness, naivety, death, perception of self and various others. The panelling is gorgeous, the choice of words is perfect, the story just hits hard. The art is also absolutely stellar.

A Tier:

Destiny Intertwined: One of the best Spyro comics out there. Story is paced well, characters are rich and layered, story is interesting, art is very pretty (albeit I do have a dislike for the author's tendency to draw brick-shaped snouts onto his characters) Although at times it feels overly dark for a story set in the TLOS universe and the more the story progresses, the more it's required of the reader to be somewhat familiar with the (very large) community that surrounds this comic to fully understand all the context and details in the comic.

BRUTALIZER: I. Fucking. Love. Brutalizer. The premise of the story is super unique, very intriguing, the bad guy is a mega-corp pharmaceutical company and like come on, you cannot tell me that's not relatable to some degree. I love me a cast of characters who are all shady bastards, none of these people are good guys, and I love how the comic handless that very well instead of either glorifying the actions or villifying them for doing what they have to survive. Pacing is pretty slow to be honest, but I personally am invested enough to still be fully interested. At is delicious and reading this comic makes we want to chew on a cartoonish slab of ham like a rabid animal. Currently on hiatus. Also if that isn't clear from the name and cover art, this comic is full of violence, gore, and features suggestive themes and situation, altough not explicitly nsfw

Little Trashmaid: A lighthearted, slice-of-life comic about a little mermaid living in a polluted ocean, her human friends and her mermaid pals. I remember when I first saw art of this on tumblr almost a decade ago, before it was ever a comic, and I am so glad it became one because oh boy is this thing so entertaining. The art is simple but very fluid and expressive, stories are unique and engaging, and it carries a great environmental message about oceanic pollution and it's concequences. Updates weekly.

Avialae: Ranking this comic so high may be biased, because I am a complete slut for Bird People Comics and there absolutely is not enough of them out there to quench my hunger, so I fixate on this one. This is a lovestory, a theme in media that I am not always keen on because I am very picky over romance, but Avialae has just enough slow-burn, yearning and angst to fit into a box titled "Val likey." The character development of the titual character is near palpable, the story is interesting, although the pacing slows down to a crawl about 2/3ds into the comic. The roadblocks the main characters face during the story are somewhat trope-y but still written well enough to be engaging and not become a Must Have In A Romance Story cliche. Great queer rep all over, not just with the main couple. Art is stunning. Comic is finished. Contains very explicit nsfw moments, do not look this comic up if you're not over the age of 18

Golden Shrike: Halfway between A and B tier. Interesting story premise, wide range of characters with layered personalities and stories, delicious art. I want to love this comic, I really do, but I have quite a few issues with how it's structured that lead me to put it way lower than I wish I did. The pacing of this comic is all over the place at times, sometimes going really fast and sometimes reaaaally dragging, especially when the main characters, Nero and Runi, get their screentime. I often catch myself just skimming their pages, uninterested in what they do or what they have to say, thinking the scene would flow so much better if two or three pages were cut out of it. Also the two main characters kinda...don't seem to really be characters? This comic has been going on for over 300 pages, yet we're much more familiar with the main "villain" of the story rather than the main characters. Nero can be summarised as "hurr durr am angsty because I have issues with my father so I am angry and impulsive hhhng TESTOSTERONE!!!" and Runi is a meek follower of her brother who seems to be able to spot details others cannot. And that is it. I honestly cannot think about any more things to say about these two, which is a shame, since they're our main characters in a comic that already has over 300 pages. I also feel like at times, the author goes way overboard with their purple prose-y-esque dialogue to the point it's hella confusing what the characters are even saying and frequently make me go "bro, come on, who even has the time to speak this way" Comic updates weekly on dA, will soon be moving to ComicFury entirely.

B Tier:

I Didn't Know: I was VERY surprised how well I ended up liking this comic, given who the author is and what the themes they're writing about are. But the way the main character deals with the events of her assault, her journey to process her truma, the way she speaks (or doesn't speak) about it, how she comes to terms with it, how she's in denial at first, how others around her treat her, is all written very well and a lot of care if put into the character and they way she's fleshed out across the story. To be honest, this comic would most likely be A Tier if it wasn't for the way Whisper is written and also for how blatantly black-and-white the Cult of Catholic Cats are written. Updates every other day. Also a warning for topics revolving around sexual assault, unwanted pregnancy resulting from said assault, religious guilt, religious cults

The Hunt: Comic by the author of Avialae. I will be honest, maybe it's my fault for trying so hard with a comic that's mainly focused on Boys KissingTM, but if Avialae did it well, I believe this one could too. I am honestly way more interested in the (secondary) plot involving ocult and witches than the main characters and their developing relationship, which gets tiring to follow at times and is very trope-y this time around, compared to what Avialae was. The "antagonist" boyfriend is honestly a joke and I am frustrated at how he's treated by the comic. The slow-burn is slow-burning for a bit too long in my opinion, and while the comic has a stable pacing, these two characters and their relationship just aren't interesting enough for me to not get bored of them and their melodrama. Art is great 95% of the times although from time to time there are awkward angles and Yaoi Hands-coded body proportions that made me go (??? How???) once or twice. Many characters are queer, although unlike with Avialae's diversity, characters are mostly reduced to "gay" or "lesbian." Comic updates twice a week. Contains very explicit nsfw moments, do not look this comic up if you're not over the age of 18

Homeworld: From the author of Destiny Intertwined. I don't have much to ay about this comic, and that is kinda the thing. The question is whether this is because it went on an indefinite before it hit 60 pages and therefore it didn't have much time to unrevel it's story yet, or if it's because this story is just. Boring. None of the characters gripped me, I don't like or dislike anyone in this comic, the premise of the story is interesting enough, I love me a story about space exploration! But there's just not enough pages to properly kick this off yet, and the story we did get so far is uninteresting. The art is mostly nice, although characters can come off a quite stiff and blocky at times, especially when there's movement, and the consant presence of Brick Snouts keeps distracting me from everything else. As mentioned before, comic is on an indefinite hiatus,

White Tail: A comic that had a very solid start, solid pacing and continued to be very very good until the climax of the second act. After that, it became sort of boring and dragged a bit, and the ending is quite anti-climactic. Still is a solid story, especially considering this was the author's very first comic. If only they managed to keep it up for their future work. Art is simple but nice to look at, characters are very expressive, and Very Shaped. Comic is finished.

Space Vixen: I'd compare this comic to when you throw a bunch of mentos into a pepsi bottle. It spews out agressively at first, then gradually slows down to a trickle and. That's it. This comic had a very solid start and an interesting premise, but after a few solid episodes, it just becomes boring. The art greatly downgrades too, and I will be honest, the story of the Riders and their supposed Space Superiority made no sense to me and rather came off as something from a badly written Doctor Who episode than something that'd be a part of a story like this, at least given the vibes it had when it first started. Comic is on an indefinite hiatus.

Rabbit on the Moon: Another comic that is good, but isn't great. The story was predicable and generic, although well written. The strongest thing about this comic is the art, which is stellar (ba dum tss) but it cannot fully pull a comic and it's story. This isn't a bad story at all, just kinda forgettable. Comic is finished.

C Tier:

The Rabbit Hole: I will be honest, if this comic stayed as the short comic it originally was, it would be S Tier. After the author decided to continue it, it kinda felt like they were unsure what to do with it?? I felt like the comic was kinda directionless, going from situation to situation to see what will fit the newly developing story without really being connected into one big thing. The way the story went later on just didn't feel well-fitting for this comic, and I caught myself getting very bored and frustrated with it, to the point I barely even remember how it goes past it's half-way point (maybe I should re-read it soon.) Art is very nice however, the comic is finished.

Doe of Deadwood: Very solid start, interesting premise, loved the worldbuilding. About halfway through, though, the pacing slows down to such a crawl and gets really boring. That's when I realised the author saw the main character as nothing but a victim, meanwhile they're anything but. The writing of the story started to reflect that, which greatly hurt it's integrity and quality, eventually just delving into pointless melodrama that had me wishing I could hit a "go back" button. Art is simple and very "meh" although clearly on purpose so the pages could be made quicker. Comic is finished.

Roar Howl Run: Terrible ace rep, I will say that right off the bat. Story premise is interesting, but it quickly gets smothered when the Mary Sue of a main character goes "It's morbin time" and starts morbing all over the place. It's like this comic is trying it's hardest to shout "girl power!!! Girls don't have to Get Married and Have Babies to be fullfilled by life!! Girl strenght isn't just motherhood!!" and then it proceeds to make it's female main character aggressive, brash, comically strong and desiring of fights, all the traits traditionally associated with masculinity and men, somewhat accidentally communicating that a girl can only be powerful if she becomes a methaphorical man, runining the whole message about feminine power. Essentially every character in this comic is a mouthpiece for the author to some degree and/or attracted to the main character, one way or another, to the point it's just so exhausting to read about. I really do not like this comic, mainly for it's utter faliure at the topics it tries to write about and because they author was completely unable to take criticism about it. Art is simple and "meh" once again clearly done on purpose so the pages could be churned out quickly. Comic is finished.

Asmundr: A very forgettable comic about a pack of dogs. With aliens. Seriously, ask yourself this question; If this comic wasn't connected to Home, would you still talk about it? The answer is most likely "no" since Asmundr. Really isn't anything special. Charcters are shallow, worldbuilding is shallow, story is shallow, no matter how deep and meaningful the author perceived his comic to be, the fact he failed to make it so on paper remains. Asmundr is just really forgettable to me and it's simple writing and themes are what make it a C Tier comic. There just is not enough of a story to make the rating go lower (or higher) Art is pretty nice, I'd even argue it's so much better than it is in it's sequel, although there is plethora of proof that a lot of the artwork in this comic is traced. Comic is finished

AlbinoRaven's TLK Cinematic Universe: There's like five comics mushed into one but all of them follow the same plotline, so I will keep it all as one. I see this comic on the verge between C Tier and D Tier and the only reason why I put this in C is because I enjoy this person's writing of Scar. The comic's pacing is all over the place, storylines are repetitive, boring and don't make sense half the time, half of the characters barely have a personality at all, and like the way it's customary with TLK comics, there's some not-so-tactfully handled sexual assault tossed in there for good meassure. I already mentioned the pacing, but I have to say again that in the last two or so chapters, it slowed down to the point it makes me want to claw my skin off. If I injected a slug with a lethal dose of horse tranquilisers, I'd move faster than this comic. The art is ass at the start of the comic, but drastically improves in it's later volumes. Updated are sporadic and far in between.

D Tier:

Caspanas: I feel *really bad* putting this comic so low on the rating, mostly because I can very clearly see how much this comic means to the author. But the thing is that just because something is deeply meaningful to you, it doesn't mean that it's gonna make for a good story, and Caspanas is a proof of that. The best way to describe this comic is that if feels like an anime full of filler. You know how Naruto is infamous for being 40% filler? This comic is the same. You could cut out half of this comic's pages and the story would be better. Hell, the comic is almost 300 pages long already and I STILL don't know who the main antagonist even is or what this comic is supposed to be about aside from "magical horses go on magical horse adventures." A lot of the time, the comic vomits walls upon walls of text at you, spewing lore and worldbuilding aspects at the reader, which may be interesting for the author to share their story, but it does not make for good dialogue. People Do Not Talk Like That. The main plot of the story (a family of Racist Gods wanting to wipe out the world of all mortals. Or something) is constantly pushed aside for the sake of various character shenanigans, which do not offer development whatsoever and just come off as annoying and filler-y. Speaking of, the pacing of this comic fucking drags. I don't think I've seen a comic aside from this one that drags to this degree. Everything is happening at a snails pace and when something *does* finally happen, it often feels underwhelming. I do not like a single character in this comic, not necessarily because they're all unlikable (although many of them are) but because there's not really much to them. This comic somehow manages to have a lot of Character Is In Situations moments while at the same time, not developing that character at all. Again, it is such a shame this comic is so bad because I *do* want to like it the way I did when I was 16 and didn't know better, and also because I can tell how clearly and deeply the author cares about this story, but alas the fact remains that it's very mediocre at best. She tries to stuff *everything* she comes up with into the story of the comic and the result is a confusing mess of a comic that feels like an anime filler episode because it focuses on literally everything else but it's main plot. The strongest suite of this comic is it's artwork, which drastically improves as it goes along, and honestly, the backgrounds present in this comic are the best I have ever seen in any comic so far. Comic is on a hiatus

River Street: From the author of Aviale and The Hunt. I. I really wish this story was at least half-way good as the other two, but it sadly is not. You can come and shout at me about wanting coherent story and characters from a comic that is mainly a boy/boy smut comic meant for horny freaks, and to that I say; If Avialae did it well, this comic can do it too. With the author's comics, it' clear how the overaching story gets pushed further to the back with each new work the newer the story is, and it's very clear in the case of River Street. Both main characters are reduced to stereotypical horny carricatures you'd expect from a badly written manwha. One is a tsundere to the point it hurts my brain to read about him and the other is a macho dudebro that straight up sexually harasses him multiple times. Like, yeah I know it's played for a joke in the comic (which makes this worse??? If the person getting harassed was a woman instead of a man, you bet your ass the other character would be lynched for his behaviour) but the way the titular character harasses his love interest about going out on a date and smashing when he's told a very clear "No" over half a dozen times just makes him come off as a shallow, pushy, horny bastard instead of someone who's interested in the other as a person. Villain is an Astarion from Temu, a trope-y evil gay vampire who could not pique my interest if he crawled up my ass, and the rest of the story is so smothered by the two main characters being so annoying towards one another that I couldn't be interested in it if I tried. Art is pretty good, has Yaoi Hands moments at times. Updates weekly. Contains very explicit nsfw moments, do not look this comic up if you're not over the age of 18

Tail of Tails: This comic is such a fucking mess, I could not describe the plot if you held a gun to my head. I guess it's about...uuuuh...a space monster eating up the universe? About a dragon kingdom pulling strings in the background, manipulating the characters?? About the main character's shady father except not really?? About...romance?? Slice-of-life shit that frequently gets in the way of the main plot to the point it makes you wanna rip your spine out?? This comic is like 47534846 storylines going all at once, trying so damn hard to be tied together into something coherent and failing,. Pacing is all over the fucking place, plot contradicts itself at times, main character is very unlikeable and her love interest is very annoying and childish. At least the MC gets character development as the story goes. Still doesn't mean I like her. Art is pretty "meh" at the start but gradually improves very well. Characters are expressive and movement is very fluid, backgrounds are nice and detailed. Comic updates weekly. Contains very explicit nsfw moments, do not look this comic up if you're not over the age of 18

Repeat: I straight up just wasted my time with this bullshit. That was an hour and a half I will never get back. I could have spent the time staring at a wall and it would be more productive than reading whatever this is. I was very tempted to put this into an F Tier, but stopped myself because I *do* see a lot of potential buried deep underneath the layer of bullshit this comic is covered with and there *are* glimpses where the comic is almost average with it's writing, but those are sparce and far in between. Ending and resolution of the main comic are very anti-climactic and made me just go "Huh??? THAT is how you're gonna deal with that?? Are you for real??" I would not recommend this comic to anyone unless you love wasting your time. The artist was so unable to handle the criticism they were getting over how bad the comic was that they left dA. Art is "meh" as it's customary with SongDog. Comic is finished.

The Golden Rule: I would not be able to tell you wtf this comic is about if you payed me. "Slice-of-life TLK comic with an extremely unlikable protagonist that also has a hefty dose of incest because why the fuck not" is the best thing I can come up with, because I seriously have no idea what the overarching story is supposed to be about. Canon characters like Kovu and Kiara are very OOC, the main protagonist is an extremely unlikable, incompetent, whiny coward and her love interest pisses me off just as much because I cannot rationalise why she'd be into someone like that. Other characters range between various degrees of "meh." The only compelling character in this is the Incest Lion, because of course this has to have either incest or sexual assault as a part of it's story because it's a TLK comic. Anyway, Ranisha's cunning personality and scheming nature is the only interesting thing about this story, which is kinda yikes imo because she's the antagonist of this mess. Half the time, the lions don't look like lions and overall have questionable anatomy. Comic updates sporadically.

F Tier:

Floraverse: I tried to read this comic once upon a time about a decade ago and my brain just melted. The story is as such: "A blob and a bird find some seeds. They're told the seeds are important and to go deliver them. Where to? Dunno. Why are they important? Dunno. When to? Dunno. This comic is such a mess I wasn't even sure I started reading the right volume because none of the chapters or books are labeled for some reason. The story has a lot of things happening but also nothing is happening at the same time, somehow. Character POVs jump from place to place, from important and plot-driven events to extremely boring slice-of-life bullshit, further ruining the already bad pacing. Speaking of characters, half of these guy's are the author's very obvious self-inserts and mouthpieces and are deeply unlikeable. I had no fucking idea what was going on by the time I was nearing the end (or at least I thought I was. Again, navigating this comic chronologically requires a doctorate in bullshit) I had no idea wtf was going on. The only solid thing about this comic is the art, which is pretty to look at but that's about it. Story makes no sense, characters are annoying to the point I wanted to isekai myself into this comic and whack them with a chair. I would not recommend this comic to anyone unless you want to actively suffer.

I also feel like it's very important to note the author of this garbage mess is an absolute degenerate. You think Kique has a lot of controversy? Honey, you've seen nothing yet. This person has a lot of grooming/pedophilia accusation on their neck, as well as accusations of zoophilia, abuse and manipulation, theft, and they literally seem to get off on the idea that minors are exposed to their NSFW work, taking little to no precaution to separate the two and doing nothing when they know a minor is actively engaging with their porn. Feel free to look them up, you will be reading about them for hours thinking shit can't get worse and then be unfortunatelly proven wrong. I guess their garbage personality reflect in their work as well because Floraverse and anything attached to it is garbage too.

Home: I don't think I have to introduce this mess, we're all familiar with it. An unfortunate sequel to Asmundr, it's arguably worse than it's predecessor in every way. The story sucks, the characters suck, the pacing sucks. Art is pretty at a first glance but looking closer at these dogs will make you realise thy're broken and also a lot of the art is traced. A lot of the stuff in this comic is traced or stolen, actually, whether it's from random google images, tv shows, other people's ideas or ancient mythology and culture, essentially nothing is original about this comic. The lore and characters contradict themselves constantly, the author uses serious topics like sexual assault and slaver as statements for shock value and also he's weirdly attracted to his rapist villain, who he sees as a poor misunderstood babu that just needs a gay bar lol. There is NOTHING redeeming about this comic, absolutely nothing that could fix it at this point. It's also really boring, because the author sucks ass at writing anything that's not a smut scene between his two feral characters. This whole comic reads like an elaborate, self-indulgent daydream that the author didn't care to convincingly adapt into a story and just decided to shit out as he pleases. Kique also needs no introduction, we're all familiar with him. A 30-something year old man-baby with paperthin skin, who starts shaking the moment he hears an ounce of criticism. Currently dating a man who abandoned his (now ex) wife for this freak, causing the death of his pets in the process. I honestly think this says everything you need to know about Kique. The only thing this comic is good for is analysing it on what NOT to do when you're writing/drawing a comic

And now, finally;

Dragon Slayer: I honestly did think there's no way a comic worse than Home can exist. I am a fool and a dumbass and I deserve to be reading this. Nothing about this comic is redeemable. NOTHING. This comic should be a cautionary tale to everyone. Do not write about hard-to-portray topics like sexual assault and rape if you haven't done adequte research about the topic. I honestly cannot think about a comic that handles it worse than Dragon Slayer. Yes, somehow this comic is worse at handling sexual abuse than Home is. Everything in this comic is about sex. You know how I previously said that Horse Age takes deep care about establishing deep familial bonds between it's characters? Forget it, Dragon Slayer has none of that. Just sex, sex and more sex. You know what's funny? This story is apparently based on the Greek myth of Perseus, which is one of the very few Greek myths that don't have rape or sexual assault as a part of it's story. Ironic, huh? The pacing is so fucking fast it offers the characters no time to properly develop, so everyone is a one dimensional carboard cut-out of a horse that just stands around/ Aside from the min villain, that is, who is, for some reason, the only character that gets a story-driven backstory. Yes, you read that right, the rapist priest gets development instead of, you know, the main character, who is essentially just a trauma bingo at this point. The single character I somewhat like is an SA victim that the author herself claims wasn't assaulted despite the opposite being the truth, and I feel like this alone speaks volumes about the comic. Main character is an agressive "Hurr Durr Girlpower!!" because of course she is. Essentially she's like the main protagonist of Roar Howl Run, only somehow even worse. And the "good guy" we're given among the sea of sex-crazed men is a rapist apologist who throws a blind eye at his brother's deeply questionable antics because "it's not my women he's pressuring into sex, so I don't care!" like bruh, am I supposed to feel bad this wankstain is dead?? Everytime I think this comic cannot possibly get any worse, it gets fucking worse. The bar is so low at this point that it's in hell, and somehow it's still digging deeper. I have not seen a work of fiction that had me worked up as much as Dragon Slayer in a long while, specifically for the reason of it's very badly handled topic of sexual assault and rape, and the author's stoic refusal to as much as admit she may have done less than stellar job, to the point she had to close her comment section multiple times before the comic even hit a 100 pages because of all the backlash she was getting from people pointing out her carelesness. I have lost all my respect for this author and can only wish they realise what kind of putrid cancer they created and take it off the internet to maybe turn it into something different. I would not recommend this comic to my worst enemy.

[assmundr]

I was wrong in the assumption. It's so much worse

[assmundr]

Not on patreon but I'm asuming Calycancer is going to mate with Dandy to asure Pierces' safety or something like that

That is spot on, my guy

[assmundr]

I'm sorry WHAT Dandy is going to also get raped??? Wtf is this story???

However bad you think this comic is, let me just tell you that it. Gets. Worse

The bar is so low it's in Hell and somehow it's still getting lower and lower

[assmundr]

Yeah, so, I'm just gonna-

First image is from a google search "rape by deception religion" and in case you wanted to come at me about this being AI overview and how wrong those can be, the paragraph right under it is from a wikipedia article.

This took me 20 seconds to get answers for. I definitely could have gone and got screenshots from other sources, but you get what I'm trying to say here.

Millie. Was. Assaulted. She was either indoctronated prior to meeting Calycancer or was shortly before what he did to her. Either way, the act happened after Millie was heavilly manipulated by the rape priest, fed stories of grandeour and great purpose, told she was special and that her baby will be special too, just because this guy wanted to get his rocks off.

This. Is. Rape.

He lied to her with intention and purpose to make it easier for himself to do this to her. Sex by false pretenses is rape, no other way about it.

The more I read this comic, the more I'm starting to think that...Sleepy doesn't understand what rape is? Not all rape is violent, not all rape is about the victime being forced either physically or emotionally. Rape can be also about manipulation, deception, lack of understanding. Sadly this statement proves something to me: that Sleepy did not take the time to properly research the topics she chose to write about. Which I already knew, given the sorry state this comic is in, but it's always good to have futher evidence of it.

Anyway. This story sucks major ass and Mille *was* assaulted by Calicancer, no matter what Sleepy says about it