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Troian is truly the ultimate pretty little liar, she kept that she was AD from all of her castmates for almost TWO YEARS while she was FILMING WITH THEM. If that isn’t the most hardcore method acting I dont know what is she is literally queen

[atheorista]

She was not A.D... she was A.D s twin. She didnt keep itfrom all of her castmates, Keegan knew. I pwrsonally doubt that this is the ending marlene told her about two years ago... but thats only my assumption as far as i know this has never been clarified. YET marlenr has hinted that she intended to have wren be A. But he had other Plans. Also Method acting would imply that she was in character the whole two years...... and she wasnt ? So no. I like troian. She plays well and appears to be a decent and smart person. But daniel day lewis would be BY FAR a better example for method acting..... and acting in general.

[lastminutetheories]

Life After PLL

I thought i would end this blog on a positive note and put together some recommendations for people looking for something to watch after PLL. I’ll include stories similar to the show in case that’s what you’re craving, i gave a little personal description on each one but you can click the title for the preview. 

Riverdale. If you’re craving more mystery after PLL you might want to give this one a try. It has similar themes than PLL did, hidden family secrets, deception, small town with old history, and friendship. It’s in its first season and so far i recommend it, the mystery presented in season one was tied up in the final episode leaving enough open to move forward. Like i said it’s a show with similar elements than PLL but with a more immediate resolution to the puzzle presented, also it’s narrated in a really cool way. Big Little Lies. I’m recommending this one because I was blown away by it, but it’s definitely not a teen show, It deals with really dark themes. It’s based on a book and it’s all contained in this one season, everything is wrapped at the ending, the whole show has various ongoing mysteries that come together in the end. You might need to give it a while because, in the beginning, it’s not so clear where the story is taking you but i promise a satisfying ending and amazing performances. And Then There Were None. Based on the novel by Agatha Christie, the crime novel queen. It’s a mini-series. Ten strangers are invited to an island by a mysterious host, and start to get killed one by one. Could one of them be the killer? As any of Agatha Christie’s stories, i promise you well thought out plots, logic and satisfying resolutions. A Witness for the Prosecution. Another Agatha Christie story recently adapted to tv. It’s a mini-series as well. The hunt is on to find the murderer of a wealthy glamorous heiress who is found dead in her London townhouse. There’s murder, mystery and plot twists done right. The Good Doctor. This is an upcoming tv series starring Freddie Highmore, the trailer looks promising and I’m including it on the list because the character gave me Wren vibes and I thought some of you might enjoy it. I’m not sure if this show will contain any mystery at all, it looks more drama oriented but looks good nonetheless. Bates Motel. On the same note you might want to check out Freddie Highmore’s Bates Motel, it concluded recently and while i didn’t love all the seasons i came back to watch the resolution and I was very satisfied, it’s really twisted and it doesn’t shy away from it. The Lost Woods resorts in PLL was a nod to the Bates Motel, and Hitchcock’s books are referenced throughout the show so you might enjoy watching the connections from this one. Needless to say, murder and mystery abound.

Stranger Things.This one crosses to the sci-fi side, but it’s also a mystery show. I’m sure some if not most of you have heard of it. If you haven’t watched it give it a shot.

[atheorista]

Thx I was looking for something to watch !!

- how to get away with murderer I us a good too. - and Veronica Mars

[brynnanoelle-deactivated2021082]

"It wasn't her book."

YEAH AND IT WASNT HER VAGINA EITHER, TOBY.

[prettylittlesmartass]

PLL FINALE THOUGHTS

Ok, so…

First of all, I did like how Alex revealed herself to Spencer. That was a spot on reveal.  Kudos to whomever wrote/directed that part.

I also liked how Mona kept Alex and Mary as her doll pets, even if I have to overlook the plot holes created by everyone wondering why the police didn’t take them to the station.

I am getting really tired of acknowledging amazing acting skills in a subpar situation. (Vanessa Ray, Troian, Janell, Andrea- looking at you 4). Fact is- they deserved a better wrap up to what was once an amazingly well written story. Thank the heavens that they can act as well as they do, because it helped take some of the sting out of these “reveals”.  Their acting abilities deserved so much more.

If I had to speculate, and I’m gonna, I think this once amazingly well written story went off the rails when the writers began to cater to the shippers.  For this story to be true to its’ original form, Alison would have had to come clean about a lot of stuff that happened “that night”.

Ezra should have at the very least lost his teaching license. (Which, maybe he did, because he isn’t teaching anymore)

As for Spoby and Caleb.  Well, Spoby probably had the best shot at a true happy ending, given that Spaleb was a huge pill for Hanna to swallow.

However, I think at some point, the powers that be decided the best way to keep the ratings up was to tease the shippers.  I also believe that they thought that if the shippers (pretty much) got their way in the series finale, they would take the rest of it with a grain of salt.

All of that said, I hated Cece’s reveal, because so much of it didn’t make sense.  Shower Harvey as both Red Coat AND Black Widow?!

The Cece/Charles/Charlotte thing wasn’t horrid, though her reasons for torturing the girls were, and her explanation of how Marion Cavanaugh was killed didn’t make any sense at all timeline/age of character wise.

So, I stupidly held on to the hope that everything would somehow make sense in the end.  And, on that note, all I have to say is…

[prettylittlesmartass]

How The AD Reveal Should Have Gone (Alex's Backstory)

When Alex left her adopted home, she begged/borrowed/stealed/etc enough money to get to the states in order to find her real parents. During this time, she met Wren, and he became infatuated with her. This was 2 years before Ali disappeared. 

Alex, at first, thought Jessica was Mary. She visited the DiLaurentis household and explained who she was and the horrible life she had endured. Jessica played the part of Mary, internally freaking out about the amount of chaos Alex’s reveal would undoubtedly cause.  She put Alex up in a hotel room while she asked her to be patient as she got up the nerve to explain to her family about Alex’s existence.   At this point, Alex was not aware that she was a twin, let alone that her twin lived next door to her “Mom”. Jessica immediately went to Peter, and the two of them devised a plan. Jessica would use her authority on the board at Radley to commit Alex as someone with multiple personality.  Peter, being genetically related, signed Alex in as “Bethany Young”.  They used Alex’s true back story (one which Alex originally had no problem agreeing to) as proof that she had a mental break, complete with accent.   Once Alex/Bethany was in Radley, Jessica kept tabs on her, and after the mind numbing drugs kicked in, would occasionally take Alex/Bethany on outtings. This is when she would insist Alex call her “Aunt Jessica”.  This was also why Jessica had told Ali you can “never turn your back on a Hastings”, because she was well aware that she could never share her knowledge of Alex’s existence, and if Ali had ever seen Alex, she would think she was Spencer.

There were a few times that Alex/Bethany was able to escape.  

(photo credit to PLL Theories)

The first time was Ian’s Halloween party.  While there, she overheard Noel talk about his and Ali’s plan to scare the girls.  At this point, she hadn’t yet seen Spencer.  Alex had fuly intended to severely hurt/kill Ali in that abandoned house, though Ali was stronger that she thought.  Once the girls were freed from the locked room, Alex finally saw Spencer and she seethed with rage. She realized the true reason behind Jessica betraying her, and instead of leaving town, as she had originally planned, she opted to go back to Radley and devise a new plan. Before she did, she befriended Ian, who was a member of the NAT club.  At that point, she both flirted with Ian, as well as paid him with money provided by Wren, and convinced him to film Alison and her friends. He didn’t understand why “Spencer” wanted to be filmed, though Alex incorporated it as part of her flirting, telling Ian she wanted to see how Ian saw her in his eyes.   Alex’s first priority, however, was still hurting Ali.  Alex/Bethany would never forgive Jessica for having her wrongly commited.  She starts writing to Ali, although when Ali visits Radley to see her, Alex has her roommate(Kimberly Brown) pretend to be “Bethany”.  Ali, being the mean girl she was at the time, enjoys playing with her new toy.  

When Ali begins to get “A” messages (from Mona), she begins to wonder if it isn’t Bethany sending them.  She antagonizes Alex/Bethany through letters and “visits”, making things even worse than the already are.  At the same time, Ali isn’t completely certain that “Bethany” is behind the threats, so after receiving the lipstick note on the mirror, she devies a plan to either expose Bethany or have her take her place.   Ali drops of an exact duplicate of her outfit at Radley, with a note for Bethany to escape and come meet her so they can finally work things out.  Ali figures she and Bethany can either hash things out for good, or that if someone is trying to kill her, having Bethany run around dressed as she is hedges her bets a little bit in case it is someone else threatening her.  

At this point, Alison believes that the other Liars are innocent, and not the ones leaving messages.  That said, she can not have them in her way for all that is about to go down that night.  So, she drugs them. Meanwhile, Jessica receives a phone call that Alex/Bethany has escaped.  She freaks out, and forbids Alison from leaving the house at all.  

Spencer and Ali argue.  Ali walks back towards her house and Spencer walks towards the woods/house.  Melissa hears heard the argument between Ali and Spencer, as do the girls (Aria, Hanna, and Emily), in a drug induced haze. The girls arrive in the bushes in time to see someone dressed like Ali, hit Alison. Mrs. D also sees Alex hit Ali from the window.  Mrs. D rushes from the house as Alex runs away.  The girls, again drugged, begin to chase Ali’s assailant.    Mrs. D, believing Ali dead, buries her.  Mrs. Grunwald pulls Ali from the grave. The girls, chasing Alex through the woods, finally lap back around to the gazebo area and attack Alex.  As they begin to attack her, they start to hallucinate that it is Alison, and finally stop.  They leave Alex’s lifelss body in the gazebo area, and Melissa stumbles across it.  Seeing only the clothes and hair, Melissa thinks Spencer killed Ali, and buries her to hide the evidence.

At this point, Alex’s roommate, Kimberly Brown, who had escaped from Radley with Alex, leaves their meeting spot and comes looking for Alex to figure out what is taking so long.  She sees Melissa burying Alex, and as soon as Melissa leaves, she digs out the grave and saves Alex.

As it turns out, this was the worst mistake Kimberly could have made.  Alex, now set on burning down everything to do with Spencer, and the other liars, kills Kimberly Brown on the spot, switches clothes with her, and buries Kimberly in the grave.  That way, when her body is found, no one will expect she is alive and able to exact revenge.   At this point, Alex still believes she has killed Alison.

Mona sees Ali walking along the road, sends her out of town.  Ali knows for sure that someone is out to kill her, and that her Mom buried her without hesitation.  There is no reason to stay.

Alex then spends the next year devising a plan to get revenge on the liars for trying to kill her.  She enlists Wren to start dating Melissa, to get his way into the Hastings trust, and to learn more about Spencer.  As it turns out, Wren starts falling for Spencer, which only makes Alex hate Spencer more.

She starts communicating (electronically) with Mona, Lucas, and Jenna, who she learned from the NAT tapes had hated Ali as much as she did, as was also picked on by the liars.   When Aria returns to Rosewood, Alex gently nudges Mona to start sending A messages to the girls again.  She tells Mona that she will be an outcast agin, now that the Liars will be together again. In essence, she sets Mona free on the girls to torture them, knowing at some point she will escalate the game to her own level. 

When she notices the DiLaurentis house is sold, and that workers start to dig around the gazebo area, she knows she will need to get ahold of that body to switch around medical records.  “Bethany Young” has to remain dead, or Jessica and/or Peter might start searching for her.   She pays off some cops and people in the morgue and is able to alter paperwork, and steal the body.  

She noticed Jessica and Charlotte together, and eventually figures out how Charlotte fits in to the story.   When she first approahces Charlotte, Charlotte does not believe her.  She thinks it is Spencer trying to figure out where Ali is, if Ali is alive, and that she still wants to find her and hurt her.  Once Alex gains Charlotte’s trust, and Charlotte realizes how awful Ali was to Alex, Charlotte becomes a double agent, though doesn’t immediately tell Alex that Ali is still alive.  (Alex is still wondering what happened to Ali’s body)

Alex tries to burn the girls to death in the lodge fire, and that is the night she realizes Ali is still alive.  However Ali goes immediately back into hiding.  Alex then spends Season 4 trying to find Ali, and using the Liars to do so.   It is Alex that kills Mrs. D, and Mary takes the fall for her (as she did for Spencer with Eliot)  Once Alex heard thought Mona (via Shana) that the girls found Ali, Alex knew that Mrs. D that had to die, because Alex couldn’t have Mrs. D spilling the secret that Spencer had a twin.  

Alex has also realized that Charlotte had been lying to her about Ali, and that is why Charlotte agrees to “take the fall” as Big A- to protect Alex.  Season 5 up to Charlotte’s reveal is about laying the groundwork to have Charlotte take the fall with everything wrong done towards the girls.  At this point, Alex is mostly done with revenge, and just wants to live her life out with Wren, Mary, and eventually Charlotte (once she is released). Then Charlotte is killed, and Alex is denied her family.  She thinks one of the Liars did it, though doesn’t know which one.  She enlists the help of Mary, Eliot (Charlotte’s true love), and Wren to help figure out who killed Charlotte.   Then… Alex starts to fall for Toby.  While Alex had never really been jeaous of Spencer’s life before (I mean, who would with Peter as a father?), she did start to covet Toby.  There were two problems here- Yvonne and Wren.  Alex believed she could deal with Wren, though Yvonne would have to go.  Therefore, she set up the car accident, and while Toby was knocked out (and before help arrived) further injured Yvonne so that her injuries were mortal.

Next, she had to convince Wren that she would kill Spencer, and take over her life, allowing her to be with Toby.  This met with more resistance than she expected, and she eventually killed Wren, worried that he would tip Spencer off.   Alex knows she is playing the long game with this, and uses Aria and Ezra’s wedding (with Toby’s return) as her in to fully take over as Spencer and work toward getting Toby back.  As for Mary, it could go either way as to whether she knew Alex’s ultimate plan to take over as Spencer until the very end.  I am going to say that until Spencer was kidnapped, Mary did not know, and by then, it was too late.

[atheorista]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE ! Thank you for this. I needed to see this written down.

[allwillburn]

PLL finale positives

I’m seeing a lot of negativity on my TL at the moment and I know this finale was not as good as we deserve after all these years and that it did not answer everything, but I would hate for us to leave the show angry and upset so I decided to make a list of the things I liked about the finale. Feel free to add to this!

1. Twincer: I really loved Alex’s (or twincer as I prefer to call her) personality and character. She was a true psychopath and I loved it. Yes, the accent was horrendous but Troian nailed it. I loved the crazy in her eyes, the hilarious mimicking, how she went so far and was so heartless and cold blooded and how at the end she truly believed she was spencer. 

2. MONA DIDN’T DIE. IM SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

3. Wren was truly involved and it made sense! I feel like this was a nod to the wren theorists and the wrencer shippers so that was pretty nice.

4. I liked the fact that we knew about twincer and the liars didn’t. Made it really suspenseful.

5. Twincer and cece’s relationship was sincere, she really loved her and you can tell

6. I still don’t understand who’s side mary is on but I love her either way 

7. The ending scene was wonderful, so very mona.

8. ITS THE LAST EPISODE!!! we need not suffer no more

[atheorista]

I have to object to your first point. ALEX is a jorrible character. Troian acting alex acting spencer was amazing it was subtil but still allowed me to know it wasnt spencer so I am convincedt troian could have played every role they wrote. Why her character sucked ? - Alex: No good name also the name of one of spencers exes, but they probably forgot - Bartending : identical twins have very similar potentials... now okay I get she had no easy childhood and no money but I would like to think that someon so drawn.to.knowledge as spencer, melissa or Mary would no matter how dire the circumstances overcome their upbringing and get an education. Or at least be smart in herown ways alex just seemed dull.

- her looks : really can it be any more stereotypical than that ?

- her history: So spencer gets adopted, cece gets adopted and alex gets adopted ..... but sure alex so insane that they sent her away at age 2 or something but that obvious sickness doesnt stop a doctor trained in the psychiatric field from dating her ?

- why didnt she give a shit about spencer her TWIN sister but loved Cece her HALF sister and why wasnt she curious or mad at her other half sister Melissa or her dad ? Why didnt she kill Mona for killing her beloved half sister?

Her character is a one dimensional stereotyp with a non existent form of psychiatric disease. you cant just turn on and off the crazy as you please

[mamagabusi]

ITS OVER, BITCHES !!!!!!!! xoxo

[atheorista]

My last Post ( A.D. = Absence of Dedication)

So I am not going into every single aspect thats dissapointing me about this finale, as well as the episodes leading to it. Sufficient to say that I was in it for the mistery and although I think Ezria had amazing chemistry at some point I didnt even see that in the finale but I dont really care that much for the ships.

Whats really pissing me off is the way Marlene and crew are going about claiming it was good. This is factually incorrect. We could go in depths about writing here and I promise no writer/creator serious tv critic could call this Good. You know Buffy and Veronica Mars were aimed at young audiences too. They still made sense and tried to pick up loose ends. As hard as. I Iook I cant even see that effort in the pll finale. And I was predicting and liking the Idea of twincer but the execution of this idea was not good. And that is so frustrating because Marlene was communicating it as something that it clearly wasnt Again ! There were NO answers and speaking for me also no surprise. And I bought all those episodes (amazon) because I was told that the big bad that has been there from the beginning would be revealed. thats why I spent actual money for each episode. This money went to the writers and actors and marlene. My continued views as well as yours allowed them to ask for even more money for their work on the show. So if that work doesnt produce what it was said to produce I feel cheated. And I have a really hard time understanding why I should have no grounds for that. They promoted, They hinted, They knowingly toyed with our expactations And it is obvious that they didnt deliver. Not acknowledging this, is doubling down trump style. SAD. BABIES.

[prettylittleliarsxxxx]

my two cents

I’m really disappointed that there seems to be a general consensus (mostly by journalists and the cast/crew) that we’re not ‘allowed’ to be unimpressed with the finale. And I am speaking mostly to Troian’s quotes here. I love the woman but I think that’s an unfortunately really narrow way to look at fandom and the array of different emotions we all have. And we’re all upset for different reasons and to lump it all in with the same people who were sending her death threats about SpaIeb is really shitty. 

I can be upset by a result and not send death threats. The majority of us can. 

First, not everybody was in it for the same things. A lot of us were in it for the mystery. We were there to look at every single clue. We were there when they all said “everything is a clue in Rosewood” and took it to heart and wasted spent seven years theorizing, there were even Twincer theories that linked back to the earlier seasons! A lot of us were in it for the friendships and for the feminist undertones or the wlw rep which in the end left a lot to be desired. A lot of us were in it for the ships and romance. A lot of us were in it for more than one of those things, but a lot of us also weren’t and that’s not a bad thing.

The idea she’s pushing is that if you didn’t like the mystery, then look at the ships because yay endgame! But what happens when the mystery was unsatisfying, and you don’t care about the ships? What happens when the girls spent most of the time not together in the finale?

I don’t think it’s her fault for saying these things, I don’t think you can possibly understand fandom unless you’re in fandom and it’s very clear that’s never been something she’s been interested in and that’s fine. 

But this idea that we all wanted the same things is really just a sad view of fandom. I agree, not everybody was going to be happy. That’s going to happen in any show no matter what. But this whole narrative about how we should only care about the work that they put in and the time they invested is hypocritical at best. Like, sure, I concede the writers did probably try to make us as happy as possible, but when you’re only listening to a select few people on twitter who kiss your ass 24 hours a day, that’s not really fair and is really just the beginning of a deeper fan-service fandom issue.

And to that, I also say, what about the time fans invested? For years, we were told that “that night” was important, and we held on to that, only to have it mean nothing.  There were so many things that kept us holding on to the end because we thought we were going to get a a seven year reveal. Something that, after seven years, would knock us on our asses. Something that connected back to “that night”, to Alison, to the barn, to any of the original lore of the show. They kept that going because that was the only way to keep people holding on after Charlotte, and that does become a manipulation at some point. 

The complete lack of acknowledgment for a huge part of this fandom is really disheartening. I mean, take the classroom scene. They hyped that scene up for two years. People literally spent two years theorizing about something that in the end meant nothing, that they had no idea what they were going to do with. Somewhere along the way, the ships were the only thing that mattered. They sacrificed everything else for the ships, not realizing that some of us didn’t care about them. Having ships is fine, loving them is fine, but it took over the show, and I think, in many ways, the ships are what sunk the show. 

As fans, we’ve also invested a lot of time into this. A lot of us invested money into it. And without us, this show wouldn’t have gotten 7 seasons, so I think it’s kind of sucky that as fans, we’re being told that we’re not allowed to be upset if we were unsatisfied by the finale. 

[takeanempanada]

Beautifully said

[spobyficstalker]

There are quite a few things in this post that I agree with, but also a few that I don’t follow, to be honest. I’m not going to argue that this finale was abhorrent, and I sympathize with any frustration no matter the origins. I also agree that Troian has said some pretty strange and incomprehensible things since this finale, and I definitely don’t defend all of it. But when did she say or even imply that viewers aren’t allowed to be unsatisfied? That statement is nothing more than people’s brains making connections that aren’t there (necessarily). Maybe she tried to put things into perspective a little, I don’t know. I try not to assume I know how she thinks. But did everyone miss the part where she apologized? She merely reenacted the material that they gave her, yet she’s the one apologizing while Marlene and the others are off making excises for their completely incoherent not to mention horribly offensive storylines. What’s worse is that the same thing happened after the Charlotte reveal - Vanessa was apologetic while the writers acted like they’d invented warm water. I don’t understand the point of calling Troian out when the behavior of some of the other people involved is so much more ugly? Sometimes it feels like this fandom has an obsession with wanting her to be perfect, and with needing her to see eye to eye with them.  Also, I would like to offer some insight as to why Troian likely linked this to the fandom’s reaction to Spaleb. Again, I don’t want to put words in her mouth. This is purely speculation from an empathetic standpoint on my part. But if I had to venture I guess I’d say it’s probably because, to her, it feels very much the same. Again, she’s being attacked and insulted over something she had no control over. Does that mean everyone in the fandom is doing this? No. But that doesn’t change the fact that some are. And again, she’s hiding from social media just like she did then. She’s going on the defensive about the finale just like she did about Spaleb. We’ll never know if she genuinely liked either choice the writers made for her character, and in the end it doesn’t matter - it’s simply what she had to do regardless and she tried to make it work. It must sting when viewers not only don’t like it but also turn you into their punching bag. 

[prettylittleliarsxxxx]

I’m referring to this article from Vulture – and this obviously isn’t Troian’s call for the headline but the fact that Vulture literally puts “Ungrateful Fans” in the headline is part of my irritation. This is the part of the article I was specifically referencing (the italicized parts are the parts that I think had most people on the defensive, feeling like they were being told how to feel and that if you didn’t like one aspect of the finale, there were 20 other things you could like, and for some people that’s absolutely true, but for other people, it absolutely isn’t) :

The reactions to the finale have been pretty divisive. Some viewers think it’s a fun and appropriate way to end the show, while others think introducing a brand-new character was unfair and manipulative. What would you say to people who weren’t pleased with how the series ended? Ultimately what I would say is that there’s no way in the world that we could’ve pleased everybody. It’s really unfortunate. Every other reveal in this show, you could like it or not like it, but you always knew that we had more episodes ahead. When it was Mona, you could be like, “Uh, I didn’t want it to be Mona,” but you knew there would be a continued story line afterward. With Charlotte and Charles, you could like it or not like it, but you knew the show was continuing. I think it was really tough for people to swallow because they knew this was the last episode ever, so if they didn’t get everything they wanted out of that story, they’re going to be upset. I totally understand that. But the thing I want to say to those people is: I think the show was supposed to end in year six with Charlotte revealed as “A.” When we decided to continue working on it and decided to create a new character, it’s a genesis story. It’s going to be a genesis story because somebody had to pick up the lead from Charlotte. I don’t know what to say other than I’m sorry. I’m literally trying not to go on social media because I know that people are going to be brutal.

*I know that the show means a lot to people and they’re going to be passionate either way. I would also say to look at all of the other things that you got. You got your Ezra wedding. You got Haleb. You got Emison. You got Spoby, even. The writers broke their backs to make sure that they gave so much to the fans. Even the last good-bye scene and all of these little nods were in the finale, because I know Marlene poured her blood, sweat, and tears into making sure she gave the fans a really beautiful love letter.

I guess what I’m getting around to is: If people are dissatisfied with the creation of a new character, look at all of these other awesome things that you got. I’m not trying to be like, “Be grateful,” but there’s so much beauty in this show. To focus on that small little thing, is that really what you’re going to remember? Or are you going to remember seven years with these characters that you loved that you got to say good-bye to in a really beautiful way?*

The fandom works in mysterious ways. I personally thought it was fun and an enjoyable twist. That’s what matters. There are those people … like, I thought it was going to be really good fun for Spencer and Caleb to explore a relationship. It was pretty much like death threats for me. So many girls were like, “You’re a whore, I hate you!” I’m like, “You’re calling Spencer a whore?! I have other tweets from you where you’re like ‘I love you, Spencer!’” I don’t understand it. It’s a totally different level of dedication from the fans. I don’t personally relate to it, but to each their own. I’m grateful that they watch the show and that they love certain things about the show. I’m sorry if I broke up your ship for a while or if I happened to be a villain that you didn’t like. I’m doing my job. [Laughs.]

Now, I’d like to be super clear that I’m not claiming to know how she thinks, and I certainly did not miss the part where she apologized, it’s one of the quotes I published with the most notes. I’d also like to be clear here that I am in no way attacking her or calling her out, and I’m sorry if that’s how it comes across. Like I said, I think a lot of this has come from a misunderstanding about the inner workings of fandom. I’ve seen a lot of people who read that article and did come away feeling like she was saying that we shouldn’t be upset and I think the implication of people making connections that aren’t there isn’t really fair. I think the connection is there, but I think it’s a misunderstanding on both sides. I think people did come away feeling very dismissed after that interview and the purpose of this was to try to make people feel like it was okay, and I think a lot of people thought she was being a bit malicious when she wasn’t. The point is to remind everybody that not everybody understands fandom and I think that’s the issue that’s been really driving this new witch hunt which is why I wanted to address it, because I don’t think it’s her fault and I don’t think she had any malicious or condescending intentions behind her comments. 

I agree, she should not be apologizing in any way, Most of us know it wasn’t her fault, that she did the best job she could with the material she was given. I think a lot of people were okay with her specifically and then were upset by the article, which again, is why I made this post, to help diffuse some of that anger and to make people feel like their disappointment is valid. I’m not calling her out in any way, I love Troian and she is the literal only reason why I continued to watch as long as I did. Me calling her out would have been me sitting here saying she’s an awful person and I am most certainly not doing that. 

Her quotes felt dismissive to fandom in a lot of ways and if you read the whole post, you see that I don’t ever really call her out. I said she doesn’t understand fandom and I don’t think that’s an unfair thing to say given her comments and the act that she quite literally says “I don’t understand it. It’s a totally different level of dedication from the fans. I don’t personally relate to it, but to each their own.”

Again, with the comparison to the SpaIeb debacle, while I say it’s a shitty thing to do, I fully understand why, and again, it goes to her lack of understanding of fandom and like I’ve repeatedly stated, that’s fine. Fandom isn’t for everybody and nobody is saying that’s a bad thing. I’ve always maintained my opinion that this was not Troian’s fault, even her comments I don’t believe were her fault, and that people shouldn’t be sending her any kind of negativity. 

However, and this is a big however, because it pertains to fandom and the cast/crew. I have seen so many people call out so many ship fandoms because of a very obnoxiously loud minority. And I think it’s really important for people to realize that just because a small group of ship fandom are assholes to people, that shouldn’t be representative of the entire group. Marlene has specifically called out Emi/son fans who have told her to hurt herself, etc, and that makes people believe it’s every single Emi/son fan. 

There’s been this huge disconnect where when you’re critical of something in a show, the cast and crew immediately think you’re telling them their performance was bad, that they should die, that they should stop acting, etc. And yeah, some people are going to say that because people apparently have no god damn manners anymore, but it paints huge chunks of fandom in an unflattering light when it shouldn’t be that way. I’ve seen it happen in so many fandoms so when I say it’s shitty, I mean it’s a deeper symptom of fandom, it’s an unfortunate result of social media, and I should have expanded on that. 

I agree it probably feels the same to her and that’s why she connects the two, but as a fan who has had some critical things to say but has never told anybody to kill themselves or to die or that they’re shitty actors, I do get hurt by the connection. That’s something I’d never say and a lot of us wouldn’t, so I think a lot of people were really hurt by that insinuation. And again, that just goes to the lack of understanding of fandom by Troian, and the lack of understanding by fandom that not everybody knows that much about fandom. 

Hopefully this clears some stuff up, because essentially I think we’re saying the same things, it’s just been kind of been a bit of a misunderstanding and honestly I typed the original post out quite late at night so I should have expanded a bit more. @spobyficstalker

[yawnjockey]

The problem with the finale

Lest anyone think I’m just bitching for fun… or because of some vanity over my theories not being correct.

1. The twin storyline is already weak and overdone. BUT it could have been ok if it was better executed.

2. Toby is a victim of rape! Again! Twice by Alex and a few times by Jenna!

3. Nothing tied back to previous seasons.

4. There are still SOOOO many unanswered questions!!! What the fuck?!!

5. They didn’t close up ANY plot holes at alllll

6. Are we to just assume that Alex kidnapped Hanna?

7. If Mona killed Charlotte why is Mona still alive???

8. Ezra Fitz is one of the worst humans on television and he got a happy ending.

9. Byron actually blessed his daughters marriage to her abuser!!! I threw up in my mouth.

10. Lol so Sara Harvey is just red coat/black veil.

11. No one died and I crave not just death but violence to soothe my years long suffering.

12. I can no longer pretend that the Charlotte reveal isn’t canon and a part of me died with that hope.

13. Motive was bullshit times a thousand. Children could write better.

14. I actually hurt from my wasted energy. I literally feel like a part of me has died, and that’s the part that will ever invest in something I can’t control again.

[sasukkee]

I think the problem is not who AD is. I personally wanted Twincer to happen because it was a great possibility for the writers to tie up all the loose ends. Also, Troian’s performance was great, Alex as a character wasn’t bad either and I liked how it was Wren who found her somewhere in England. But the problem is the execution of it. It’s not even about them figuring it out in three seconds. It’s about how the writers made us believe that AD was some kind of Uber A, the mastermind behind all of this, someone who was supposed to be there from the beginning, always lurking in the shadows, always watching, always manipulating. Alex’s storyline would have been great if she had been involved in all of this from before The Night, if she had really known the girls and had a better motive. And they could have done this, there were enough plot holes and moments when Spencer seemed off, it was all possible. And I think that was what we all truly wanted, before anything else? For A to make sense. To be that epic villain who had a really good reason for tormenting the girls and who was there from the start. And not for the last two seasons.

[atheorista]

I absolutely agree !!

[fuckyeslittleliars-deactivated2]

Honestly, we love Julian. He was going to have a big death scene, and we were supposed to have him on set for a few days of shooting and then, last minute, he got a movie and had to fly back to London. So we were literally rewriting his death scene because we only had him for one day to shoot those scenes. So, we were like ‘You know what? Diamonds are a girl’s best friend.’

Marlene on Wren (so he was prob the big death Ian had promised)

And i bet this is the real reason wren wasnt any of the A s

[shotsanvers]

I might just be bad shit crazy or hallucinating, but I think that the officer who arrested A.D was the same person Mona kissed later on in the episode.

[atheorista]

Jeah ? Sorry i really ran out of shits to give

[atheorista]

Post Interview

URGENT!!! After a completely dissapointing finale I neeeeeed a stream.for the freefall after show !!!! Pls ??

[angierosem]

BEHOLD THE SMARTEST CHARACTER IN PRETTY LITTLE LIARS!

[atheorista]

And also the smartest writer in the writers room

[prettylittlelrs]

the last shhh they did it together

[atheorista]

Yap it stands for shut up marlene.your storytelling sucks

[peak-at-seven-feet]

Ok what if Cece was actually trying to kill Ali “that night”? Ali said she couldn’t feel anything or talk that sounds an awful lot like what I’m assuming Mona would’ve felt when she was “killed”. Cece could’ve easily wanted Ali dead for getting the life she always wanted so she insisted her mom’s help to kill her.

[atheorista]

Yes lets male it clear that shes evil evil !!!