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I’m sorry to send two asks so close to each other, but I just thought of another character

Ianto Jones from Torchwood!!

Ianto Jones from Torchwood is Autistic!

Non comprehensive list of things that i've mentally retconed from Jack Harkness' character because I think it's the writers weird beliefs bleeding through to the character. (My "he would not fucking say that" list).

That weird transphobic joke he made in s1 ep7. Jack would not have issues with trans people. In fact he would probably not even notice, it's so normlized in his time that he doesn't raise an eyebrow at it (see: Cassandra being canonically trans. "Ladies, gentlement, and all variations there apon". Ect). Jack has also definitely done drag and drag queens/kings. He does not give a single flying dick about what someone identifys as. Just tell him what to call you and how to fuck you and he's happy.

The body shaming. That man fucks aliens. He does not care about what someone weights.

His weird rant about estrogen in the water? What was even the point of that joke? "Haha women bad"?? Jack's lucky Ianto wasn't there cuz he'd rock jack's shit for that.

Every time he calls a women a bitch. Idk why, I just feel like he wouldn't. He has a base level of respect for everyone, regardless of what they've done and there are lines that he doesn't cross no matter what. It just feels weird (especially in "something in the water" which is the example I can think of off the top of my head. The "water hag" (already a wild monster name, I really think that writer had a bug up his ass about a lot of things) was trying to repopulate earth with her children, which would kill humanity but it's also a somewhat understandable reasoning and I don't think Jack would be demeaning her about her gender for trying to keep her species alive.)

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adding to the list- in doctor who when he says "the pleasure was all mine, and that's all that matters in the end".

I feel like they were still trying to figure out Jacks character and he changed a lot in between then and Torchwood/where he ended up.

#It just doesn't even sound like him #It sounds like something that someone who was trying to emulate Jack but didn't actually understand him would say.#He was pretty young at the time tho so I could see it as just him being in his early 20's and being kinda dumb #captain jack harkness #torchwood #Maybe it's something he looks back on with age and cringes at

Listen, I know there's a pop culture reference about some brittish comedy show and that's probably why but Ianto really named the animal that lead to Jack finally accepting him and welcoming him into his home and life "my beloved" in his native language? And the name was popularized by a song in which a man laments his unrequited love?

Ianto...

#These are levels of loverboy that we have never seen and aren't prepared for #The fucking ptaradactal's name is “my beloved”. When Ianto had been trying to get Jack to accept him for days.#And the notquiteabird was the linchpin for their entire relationship at that point.#A symbol for Jack's slowly budding trust for Ianto.#And he called it “MY BELOVED” in Welsh??#Ianto....#torchwood #ianto jones #captain jack harkness #jack x ianto

When I was in high school one of my teachers called me a communist. In front of the entire class.

I was 14.

He wasn't even the worst teacher there. My science teacher was a condescending probably paedophile.

#He was my world history and geography teacher. Honors class.#He told someone that he thought that if everyone was given base rights like food and housing that no one would work #And the world would end or sum shit.#His proof was that if he didn't have to work TWO jobs (because teachers are paid shit) that he would just stay at home with his kids all da #Besides the fact that a stay at home parent is a job...#I raised my hand and just said that I thought he was being kind of disingenuous and that people would just work jobs that they #Actually enjoyed instead of soul sucking jobs that they hated.#He was very condescending and every time I made a point he would just say.#“Well maybe. But in my experience that wouldn't work”#Implying that I was too young to know what I was on about and then told me to go ask the art teacher (fantastic man) if communism #Would ever work because art teacher was around in Soviet Russia. After the “debate” he asked me if we were “still good” 🤮 and thanked me fo #That its possible for two different people to disagree and not devolve into yelling at each other.#He called it an “open dialogue”. Then at the end of class he asked again with the same exact working.#And then a different day he came up to me durring lunch to say the same thing with the same wording.#Then in an email to the dean of the school he recounted the story with the same “open duologue” bull.#Genuinely insane. I only saw the letter cuz my mother asked for it. There was a letter from each of my teachers basically as a report on me #Cuz i'm disabled and the dean needed to know if I was functioning properly in class. Also in the letter my geo teacher #Called me “she” and “her” the entire time. I am a guy. I just have a traditionally feminine name and he decided I was female...#This is the same guy who would take every opportunity to mention that my name is Greek. He's Greek. He had such a fucking boner for every #Time he could mention Greek mythology or history. Genuinely would never shut up about it. He wasn't even raised there #This is a fandom blog but I just felt like sharing.#amarica #public school arc #high school #school

Gray died in the Torchwood frozen stores.

I wonder how many nights Jack stays up thinking about the fact that he let gray go again.

He let go of his hand again.

Gray died again. Because of Jack again.

Because he forgot him. Because he let him go.

#I wonder if he sometimes sees someone on a planet somewhere. Out of the corner of his eye or the reflection of a window.#And he hopes beyond hope that it's gray back again. Even though gray coming back would be devastating for the people around.#He selfishly wants gray back even if it means sacrificing a planet #torchwood #captain jack harkness

Out of all the many, many fantastic things Ianto Jones has done, one of my personal favorites has gotta be when he shut down owen's threesome proposition real quick.

Cuz you know if he, Ianto, and tosh did actually have sex Owen would pay almost no attention to tosh and that shit would haunt her till the end of her days.

#torchwood #ianto jones #toshiko sato #owen harper

Ianto Jones, you have to stop being such a cutie patootie, they're going to kill you ianto Jones.

#Inspired by the novel “trace memory” that just kindly made me aware of the fact that Ianto CANONICALLY #Blushes easy and knows this/is embarrassed about it #And that he signs things with a kiss/x #Ianto they're going to kill you #You have to stop #He also calls his mom every week. I knew from “broken” that he fell out of touch with her at one point but that was it #Seeing his and Lisa's dynamic makes “cyberwoman” hit even harder in retrospect tho.#ianto jones #torchwood

I'm shocked there aren't more scent kink fic with Jack. He canonically smells erotic naturally

Why are we not taking advantage of this?

#There's ONE on ao3 and it's not even jack's pheromones. It's John's. Jack just happens to be there #captain jack harkness #torchwood

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Is now a good time to mention how much the Torchwood tower looks like a clit?

bluebird-the-alien

wait can someone like make a chart i am not seeing this

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it's less that the tower itself looks like a clit and more that the entire plasa looks like a vagina and the tower is where a clit would be

#torchwood

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I bet Jack lays awake at night thinking of that time he was dancing with Ianto and was secretly grieving the fact he wasn't the one marrying Gwen.

#Years later after Ianto dies and Jack feels like his heart was ripped out and he's an empty husk just desperately trying to find anything #To fill the hole in his chest that Ianto left #And Jack thinks back to all their times together like he does everytime he's alone for long enough to hear his own thoughts.#And he remebers dancing with Ianto and then remebers those sidelong glances he gave Gwen.#And it all feels so stupid. That petty childish hurt at losing Gwen when he never even had her. When he had something so much better alread #And he thinks back to all those nights drowning himself in bottles and nameless people and about just how much pain he's in #Now without Ianto. And that desire for Gwen seems so far away and so minute now.#I bet he regrets every second he spent with Ianto not giving him his full attention.#After all the people he's lost. Jack somehow still made the same mistake of taking the time they had for granted.#And I bet he never forgives himself for it.#torchwood #captain jack harkness #ianto jones #jack x ianto

Non comprehensive list of things that i've mentally retconed from Jack Harkness' character because I think it's the writers weird beliefs bleeding through to the character. (My "he would not fucking say that" list).

That weird transphobic joke he made in s1 ep7. Jack would not have issues with trans people. In fact he would probably not even notice, it's so normlized in his time that he doesn't raise an eyebrow at it (see: Cassandra being canonically trans. "Ladies, gentlement, and all variations there apon". Ect). Jack has also definitely done drag and drag queens/kings. He does not give a single flying dick about what someone identifys as. Just tell him what to call you and how to fuck you and he's happy.

The body shaming. That man fucks aliens. He does not care about what someone weights.

His weird rant about estrogen in the water? What was even the point of that joke? "Haha women bad"?? Jack's lucky Ianto wasn't there cuz he'd rock jack's shit for that.

Every time he calls a women a bitch. Idk why, I just feel like he wouldn't. He has a base level of respect for everyone, regardless of what they've done and there are lines that he doesn't cross no matter what. It just feels weird (especially in "something in the water" which is the example I can think of off the top of my head. The "water hag" (already a wild monster name, I really think that writer had a bug up his ass about a lot of things) was trying to repopulate earth with her children, which would kill humanity but it's also a somewhat understandable reasoning and I don't think Jack would be demeaning her about her gender for trying to keep her species alive.)

#Shout out to miracle day when he insists on practicing safe sex. He WOULD fucking say that.#captain jack harkness #torchwood

bitchapalooza

Sanji, drunk: If you were a girl, I would kiss you.

Zoro, completely sober: But what if you were a girl, too?

Sanji: Woah. oh my God. We could be like. Two girls kissing. Zoro you should be trans with me, we could be hot women together and kiss!

Zoro: I..... I'm not sure how to make fun of this because you genuinely look so excited to be a woman. Is there something you're not telling me, cook?

John trying to get Jack to run away to the stars with him is so funny when you realise that this is like 12 hours after the doctor offered the same thing.

Like dawg David Tennant with all of time and space couldn't make this man disloyal. You really think you're better than David Tennant with a Tardis??

#His delusional ass would believe that tho #torchwood #captain jack harkness #captain john hart

Jack making out with John and then asking Ianto on a date directly after is wild work.

Especially with that bit in serenity when he tells Ianto "i'm only seeing you. I may not be perfect but i'm not a monster". Implying he never cheated on Ianto while they were in a romantic relationship.

Him and John's fight was like his bachelor party, one last hurra before being tied down.

#torchwood #ianto jones #captain jack harkness #jack x ianto #captain john hart

Is now a good time to mention how much the Torchwood tower looks like a clit?

#For a show with so many arial shots you'd think their main base would look less like a vagina #torchwood

Rewatching the season one fanale and Ianto's reactions make me sick.

He isn't even allowed to grieve him properly.

This is after "broken" they're in their weird situationship "we're fucking but can't admit we're in love" bit.

He's spending his nights in Jacks bed and his days pretending like he doesn't yearn for him with every ounce of his soul.

He just has to stand there, surrounded by people, staring at his dead body. He's not even allowed to mourn.

He's not allowed to grieve Jacks death.

GWEN is permitted to grieve him. And be alone with the body. And act like she loves him.

And the only time Ianto is allowed to express his pain and his love is one moment, while alone in his office, sobbing into Jacks coat

And then he has to wipe his eyes and go back out like nothing happened.

He offers Jack a handshake. He's so sure Jack wouldn't want the team knowing about them that he holds his grief in till he breaks and restrains himself to a handshake when the man he loves comes back to him.

#they make me sick #torchwood #ianto jones #captain jack harkness #jack x ianto

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