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God anointed the Old Order Amish as his chosen getaway drivers, unfortunately they believe that cars are made of Satan and as such cannot perform this task. This is how the Romans caught Jesus.
Too Woke for the Dems, Too Chud for the DSA, here I am, stuck in the middle with honestly a lot of guys who could prob do a lot of good if mobilized. Someone should do something about that. Not me though, I’m too busy playing flight sims and jacking off.
WARNING: I am not an expert on religion, anyone who has studied religion is free to correct me about potential mistakes I have made. But this post isn't an attack on the Abrahamic faiths, I am simply stating what I might know or might have an opinion on and I'm trying to be objective as possible
People tend to say that Abrahamic archangels and seraphims would beat any "pagan" god, usually because they're directly under a supreme God, but it really depends on the actual cosmology you're dealing with
In Greek Mythology, humans can beat Olympians through cleverness whereas in Abrahamic mythology, angels are usually depicted as invincible
Then there's the fact that the Ancient Greeks' understanding of the universe at the time was smaller than the Abrahamic faiths that came later
One might also apply this to the Egyptian gods since in Exodus, Yahweh is claimed to have beaten the Ennead with the Plagues of Egypt, however there is contention with this as Ramses's heart was hardened which according to the Kemetic faith would mean that his heart became heavy and therefore outweigh the feather of Maat and fall him out of the favour of his gods, leaving Egypt in Isfet which is personified by Yahweh's plagues
But that's just my theory, I'm not an Egyptologist or a theologist, it's a pretty basic reading and you could argue against the syncretic argument I'm trying to make here but at the time Exodus was written, there was near-universal syncretism and the debates surrounding the gods were about which gods were more powerful/true, not which gods existed
Which also leads into the complications when it comes to Aztec and Mesoamerican mythology as when Spanish missionaries introduced the concept of Jesus Christ to them, the Mesoamericans simply added him to their pantheon and it was treated as if they missed a god somehow
This complicates the reading of how you would want to power scale the Mesoamerican gods against the Abrahamic angels due to the fact that Christians tend to misinterpret the Mesoamerican gods as Nephilim and therefore be weaker than the angels, whereas the angels would simply be held as missing gods from the Mesoamerican pantheons and therefore probably be considered no stronger than the Mesoamerican gods, and the same can be applied to many indigenous cultures like the Samoans that have incorporated the religions of Abraham into their native belief systems
Obviously, there are many religions and pantheons around the world, and there could totally be a conversation about how indigenous beliefs found across North America and Africa about the ancestor spirits could lend themselves to the idea that the ancestor spirits, by the nature of Abrahamic readings about angels and the afterlife, are angels themselves, I don't have time to get into it right now so I'll wrap this up with the Chinese pantheon
The Chinese (Taoist, Buddhist, Confucianist) pantheon is probably the most complicated to talk about because the cosmology is a bit confusing
I don't know how big the universe was thought to be at the time and I don't know how big the universe was thought to be at the time of Judaism (the first religion of Abraham and our frame of reference for the entire cosmology, unless you want to use Islam since it's the youngest and therefore would probably have a larger cosmology based on understandings of the universe at the time)
But Sun Wukong was tasked by the Buddha to jump out of his hand and Sun Wukong reached the end of the universe and only had reached the Buddha's fingertips, and this is the same Sun Wukong who carried an infinitely tall pillar on his back and it seems from this that we can guess the Buddha is pretty fucking big
We're not power scaling the Buddha against El or Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah because that's gonna start an argument, but Sun Wukong alone would be heavily complicated to think about in a fight against someone like St. Michael for example
To my understanding, St. Michael is like the big dick of the angels, God's chosen warrior, so he's a lot like someone like Erlang Shen in that regard
If St. Michael and Sun Wukong actually fought each other, we can nearly agree that it would be a stalemate based on their respective cosmologies and I can certainly see a world where God would punish Sun Wukong the same way the Buddha did, but Sun Wukong could not actually be killed by even God himself and any archangel or seraphim that would land a solid killing blow on Sun Wukong would make him more immortal due to the holiness of the weapon and the bullshit of Sun Wukong's nature
But that's just my take, I could be wrong about certain things
Why are we powerscaling religion in the first place?
Anyways, two methodological critiques:
Objectivity isn’t real, and it’s doubly not real when discussing religion, and it’s triply not real when you say that one religion is misinterpreting something during syncretism.
“Abrahamic” is an unproductive term theologically, ESPECIALLY when discussing Angels. Any Jewish moots feel free to correct me but to my understanding Christian and Jewish angels operate in completely different ways. (I do not know enough about Islam to comment on angels there.)
Anyways, on to actual meaty critiques:
There’s a distinction between Nephilim, Demons, and Fallen Angels (and Catholicism has historically combined the latter two, though iirc a tradition exists that combines the former two). The general Carholoc conception of the Mesoamerican faiths upon contact when providing a supernatural theory of origin tended to categorize local gods as Demonic/Fallen Angels rather than Nephilim. To my understanding a strain of thought also existed that categorized pagan gods as mythologized stories of exceptionally powerful mortals, but that is neither here nor there.
Anyways, the actual Michael-Sun Wukong fight is somewhat interesting, but only in the sense that the winner of the fight is determined by the faith of whoever tells the story. The only actual powerscaling guidance that I can provide is that Michael is traditionally held to be able to defeat the most powerful Demonic figure in the corpus he appears in, while Sun Wukong cannot perform the equivalent feat.
As an aside, it’s worth noting that the omnipotence of YHWH in pretty much every surviving faith he appears in implies that he wouldn’t have to fight Sun Wukong to defeat/kill him, but that is neither here nor there and makes this a “My guy has an anti-sun wukong beam” convo.
Anyways,
Sun Wukong V Michael - Broke
Sun Wukong V Samson - Woke
I got a Prince Rupert done, the tip of my dick is bulletproof but any pressure on the shaft and that thing's GONE
In honor of Juneteenth I will NOT be seating any guests with our white servers. Pack it up crackers!
After years of effort, our top scientists have finally developed the long fabled Lethally Stupid Discourse. The DoD backed out on the contract to purchase it, so as threatened we have weaponized it against the public: Barbarians as a character class in Dungeons and Dragons are problematic and rooted in the oppression of European peoples at the hands of the Greeks and Romans. Expect no further communication from us in our war against the American Public.
Discussing the history of the composition of the Bible with low church protestants is always fun bc you’ll say some fairly tame shit like “The Old Testament must be understood in the context of its composition as containing a mythic corpus and folk history alongside existing as a record of religious law.” and then they’ll get REALLY mad about it. Like babygirl you aren’t READY to hear my thoughts on the Apocalypse of John if this is how you respond to THAT statement.
Was just exposed to the absolutely galaxy brain take of “Under Anarchism we will replace the repressive and backwards idea of law with the enlightened method of lynching people we think did something wrong”
I like Noah Kahan as much as the next guy but I just found out that his fans call themselves Bugs and given the average demographic I've seen of his fanbase this feels like cultural appropriation. Not enough annoying nonbinary people there. My culture is NOT your costume.
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Indie Animators try to cast an amab nonbinary individual for a nonbinary role challenge (impossible) (everyone knows that “Nonbinary” means “Woman who owns cat ears” DUH)
It's RPG SESSION QUOTES TIME AGAIN
“A woman who has had her hair cut short can, like Samson, pray to God for one last burst of heterosexuality.”
“It’s okay. I’m eating Floor Cake anyways” "Just William Never Comes Quietly!" "Which stat is used for horse based acrobatics" "This would be a merciless slaughter, more importantly a merciless slaughter of Hellenes so real people."
Everyone wants a golden retriever paladin partner until they realize that we need to be allowed to smite evildoers as enrichment and then it’s all “OH my GOD what are you DOING there’s blood EVERYWHERE.” God forbid WOMEN do ANYTHING. God forbid MEN have HOBBIES. God forbid my BLADE is granted PURPOSE.
Have been inactive for a while, have this from back when I was funny as compensation.
She adh on my d until I need to take an adderall
She ADH on my D til I’m atherwalls
We fuckin and her roommate’s fuckin but it’s not an orgy call that shit parallel play
Not now kitten mommy has two weeks to write a term paper