READ THE PINNED POST/RULES. I BEG.
Toyhouse is a great site for character storage, forum games, and adoptables, as well as trading and mutual friendships, but not so much for keeping personal beef private or providing proof for grevious offenses. Here is the place where bad blacklists can be criticized.
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OP goes by any pronouns, adult
This is not a drama blog. Take your petty complaints about art styles, 2017 beef, and proofless accusations elsewhere. Meaning, yes, all names and users must be censored. Including the person whose blacklist you are posting. This is not kiwifarms or lolcow. Just because people have petty reasons to DNI/blacklist you does not make them deserving of targeting on or offsite. Be better than that. I am not a babysitter and I know no matter how many "donut harass" signs you put up, it's bound to happen. Unless someone is harming kids or animals, or people in general, I don't want people knowing who these random people are.
Asking for usernames of minors (anyone below the age of 17) is prohibited, and in general for adults discouraged. I also am banning direct onsite name dropping, for both minors and adults. I ask you only share usernames privately if the blacklist in question is made by an adult and has predatory/bigoted undertones. Still, do not harass. Report if applicable, block if not and move on.
Do not have me do the work for you. I am an adult with a job I do not want to have to censor names or users myself I will just delete the post. If you're too lazy to black out/blur the names just crop the image in a way where the usernames don't show. This can be done both on mobile or on PC/Mac/Computer.
Also read for more specific stuff/general topics that are discouraged or banned. Thanks
What I will post
Blacklists hosted on other sites PROVIDED it connects back to a toyhouse user. Meaning if someone is on YouTube, reddit, twitter, instagram, art fight, etc with NO toyhouse account, do not post them here. This is strictly for toyhouse blacklists.
Blacklists that contain the following:
-Serious accusations (pedophilia/grooming/racism/queerphobia/bigotry in general/zoophilia/scamming/etc) without proof.
-Friendship drama. You know what I mean.
-Stuff like "billybob was rude to me once" "animaljammer99 told me my art sucked on a forum game", in general blacklisting people for being rude or insufferable but not a danger to society.
-Shit regarding discourse. Simply blacklisting people for their stance on shipcourse, drawing gross icky art, etc. I am not here to debate the morality of certain themes/topics nor am I either a pro or an anti. However I am of the belief that blacklisting someone for being either is stupid due to how convoluted these terms mean. This also applies to lgbt, label, and general discourse as well.
-Blacklists in content warnings (for CW misuse, similar to how the DNI blog does it)
-Blacklists that are hard to read/weirdly formatted (accessibility issues)
-Things that scream petty in general
Things I will NOT post
-Offsite stuff with no connection to toyhouse, even if the people are in the similar oc sphere.
-Blacklists with tangible proof of someone being a horrible and dangerous person.
-Stuff like private blacklists, if kept away from the public view having a list of who you wish to not do business with is fine and I'd prefer to not invade people's personal shit, thanks.
-Anything uncensored. censor the usernames. if you must, censor names and indicators of who that person may be as well.
Disallowed topics/topics I'd rather y'all didn't discuss in great detail/argue about.
-Discourse over shipcourse, syscourse, etc. If I see it is getting out of hand, I will block you. I am not here to tell people want to identify as. I do not care, provided you are not harming kids, animals, corpses or unconsenting parties in general, but if you are insufferable about your stance find one of the many pro or anti blogs to run to.
- Related note: If someone is drawing taboo kink art or quad or whatever I do not care unless they are hurting REAL people or animals. Someone being into fauxcest, cnc, ferals, etc is none of my goddamn business. Do not send me nothing burger shit about what so and so draws or writes about.
-Political stuff in great detail. I am left-leaning, however this isn't the blog for this.
-Graphic descriptions of someone's bigotry/grooming/predatory behavior. If you must, privately dm if someone's truly that abhorrent. I do not wish to be flash banged to grueling descriptions of someone's racism, bigotry, animal abuse, or child grooming, thanks.
-Closed Species/CBCs/the like. Not the place for it. Closed species blacklists are an exception.
-PRO PARA DISCOURSE. Absolutely NOT. I hold no tolerance for the defense or "neutrality" surrounding any of the "big 5" paraphilias (ACTUAL zoo/pedo/necro/incest/rape).
For one, I have NO idea if these are even users involved in the toyhouse scene. If they're not, there's no relevancy to why they would need to be posted here.
Serious accusations, zero proof: The proof for the scamming and the hefty accusations, is as usual, nowhere to be found. I do think they're being truthful on the scamming front but still, proof should be included the second the blacklist entry gets made.
Also holy shit the last person blacklisted sounds fucking awful I am AMAZED as to how the part of sexualized minors wasn't reported to Twitter or any authorities??? Assuming these are REAL children, since no clarification is made. I don't know much about Zero Day to have an opinion on it, but someone shipping themselves with real school shooters just seems like a caliber farrr beyond toyhouse's ability.
I'm surprised admin didn't remove them considering most TCC shit is banned pronto, assuming OP is telling the truth.
Discourse/Vague/Strange Criteria: Day 292219 of me yelling at the clouds begging people to stop blacklisting people for drawing weird porn next to alleged predators and bigots.
"Has a feral oc who's a sex god" "Follows feral nsfw artists on twitter" "Drew a feral with it's dick out" "draws extreme paraphilia art" this is not blacklist worthy. You need to learn to block people. Also following people does not mean you know every kink or secret taboo nsfw alt they have, and even if you do, it does not mean you are into that or support it. Obviously if someone's causing real harm or a real zoo/pedo/whatever disregard this, don't continue to follow or be around people like that omfg, but I don't think people should be blacklisted because they know and don't care that their partner or friend draws cartoon dog or deer sex. But that's just me.
"Inappropriate behavior" can mean anything. Is this a groomer who hurt 12 children or is this someone who's into furries that like armpits. Please clarify.
"Problematic behavior akin to a proshipper" what does this even mean. Proship is a stance it does not have a set behavior. This is why I hate this fandom nonsense. Y'all using it to substitute as personality traits to describe people you don't like. Enough of this nonsense.
As always personal beef/drama I don't care to review because quite frankly yes it sucks beeboop was rude to your partner but no I just don't care enough to think it warrants a public blacklist entry. Solve this shit in pms/dms bruh.
I blurred out the users that had clear PSAs, and yes I did check, all of them were up and accurate. The only one I didn't censor out was the PSA on the final user because it was missing information on the most serious claim here.
Anyway, as always serious claims without proof as horrific as wanting to assault a real animal are pretty damning to make. I did see proof this person did make some pretty concerning comments on rape, as well as claiming people "deserved it" so they're a huge sack of shit for that, but the proof for the cat stuff 100% should have been included there too.
Strange Criteria: "fetishizes self harm and suicide" if the art is properly tagged I do not care it is fiction. Eroguro is not blacklist worthy by itself just because you find it gross. This is assuming it's even eroguro because some people call anything depicting suicide/self harm fetishizing but I'm not potentially triggering myself by looking through that content sorry.
Rest of this is just vague or personal drama, people you had beef with should be privately IP blocked idk man. I'm not dming random people just to figure out why x or y is on their blacklist, this is weird to ask of people to do and I don't know why this whole "dm me why I have this person on my blacklist" behavior is seen as acceptable, you should not be handing randoms vulnerable information about your failed friendships or romances.
So much of this is just personal beef and paragraph chunks that I can't lie I didn't care to completely read. But from what I'm seeing a lot of this should have been dealt with in private.
Zero proof for heavy accusations: Fetish mining and exposing people to fetish/nsfw works is indeed worthy of discussion and calling out... if there's proof readily available. Also please do not use bestiality to describe artwork, or accuse people of partaking in sexual activities (rape) with animals without evidence.
Feral x Human is strange in my book, specifically if the character in question looks like a straight up photorealistic farm animal or pet or something, but I still wouldn't equate that content to actual abuse, I just think it's bizarre and something I'll 100% avoid because it DOES make me uncomfortable. I am also not digging through FA just to find dirt on these random ass people so I am unfamiliar with what OP means by feral x human since feral means 992192 different things to people.
Offsite users: A lot of these users are on DA so TH isn't going to do anything about their conduct.
So much of this could have been resolved via blocking holy shit.
Accessibility/Formatting: Please just avoid paragraph dumps especially if you want people to read your PSA/blacklist... ideally split it into tinier chunks so it's easier on the eyes and people won't glance over potentially damning information/links.
Zero proof for serious allegations: Saying awful things to rape victim and telling people to kill themselves requires genuine proof. Same thing for wishing rape on people.
Formatting/Language: If you cannot type the word rape and default to using the grape emoji I am going to assume you are either too young to be handling this topic or self-censoring, both of which are behaviors I have ZERO tolerance for. Not only is it an accessibility issue for screen readers, it is downright disrespectful.
Tone: If this is true, the person sounds like an awful individual, but the way OP is handling this is just... beyond unprofessional. Have some tact when discussing serious situations.
Zero proof, serious accusations: I'll give it to them, there's one user on here who I'm aware is a pretty awful person, drew a 9/11 adoptable and didn't disclose it, and I believe has said some bigoted things. But I still think people NEED to include proof for serious claims even if the person in question sucks.
No proof for the grooming accusations for the second user. I'm also not getting into proshipping but this is not blacklist worthy. Plus focus on the alleged harm this person may be causing. But alas, no proof of anything.
Formatting: large paragraphs are hard to read and follow through when clumped up ><
Serious accusations, zero proof: Someone assaulting real animals, stalking people, lying about their age, using people for sexual favors, etc needs to be reported to the authorities. If this is true, that is a DANGEROUS individual and goes beyond what Toyhouse can do. If this is even a toyhouse user, seems like a lot of this was occurring on discord. It seems OP has no proof, I can believe an account being impossible to access but this is one of the most serious cases I've covered here if true ;v;
Also once again if someone's touching real animals idgaf about what cartoons get them going the real actions are the actual issues here. THAT'S ENOUGH PROOF THEY ARE DANGEROUS!
The other stuff just seems to be personal drama and communication issues rather than anything really damning. Ghosting and being iffy on trade decisions is annoying, but merits a block more than a public callout unless it gets into scamming territory.
Tone: "Sleeping with friends dogs" just call it what it is: animal sexual abuse/zoophilia. You cannot "sleep" with an animal because that implies consent. An animal cannot consent. Minor nitpick but I really hate the dumbing down of serious terms or the sanitizing of them. It's not sleeping/having sex with an animal it's RAPE.
It's like when articles have a headline that goes "teacher slept with 11 year old student" like no that's rape and pedophilia. When we minimize real harm, it causes damage, in the same way it causes damage when we misuse serious terms for petty online bullshit or fictional wank art.
I erased the two other users, since proof was included. The google doc was full of a lot of personal drama and irrelevant shit, and falsely using the term CP instead of CSAM/CSEM (and in this case, the term was used to describe gross fictional content, which was included in the doc censored... guys if you think something is truly CSEM please don't share it in a public google doc I beg).
That being said since there was evidence the people in question (both links went to the same doc) were assholes, dangerous towards minors, and racist, and it was pretty ample. Generally two pretty nasty individuals, even if the doc had a lot of padding that really didn't need to be added.
Anyway as for the actual issues in this blacklist
Strange Criteria: Policing what someone does with their design is ridiculous. Drawing nsfw of a design does not indicate someone is dangerous towards minors. I am actually MUCH more concerned for the adults who brought this to OP's attention, there's no reason to be discussing what a stranger does with a design they rightfully bought with the designer if the content is sexual and if the person in question is a CHILD.
Unless the adult was pushing the content towards the child themselves, this is not blacklist worthy.
Formatting: not the worst, but individual users should be included in a list format, or else it seems like you are covering the same person and can be very hard to follow.
Serious accusations, no proof: Suicide baiting and death threats are serious, and should require proof if you really feel the need to include it.
Vague/Petty/Strange Criteria: First time I've seen someone blacklisted for swearing around children, either OP is really young or has never heard folks swear in their life because they would not survive at an average middle or high school. Things like "bullying" "guilt tripping" etc are all vague and mean nothing when these terms have been diluted so much.
Being a bit kinder because I genuinely feel like this user is probably very young.
Formatting. This was incredibly hard to read and hurt my eyes. And mind you I LOVE scene/scenecore aesthetics. The image while still on my screen is a gif and one that is very flashy >< If you are going to host a blacklist, at the very LEAST make it accessible.
Serious accusations, no proof: Scamming, sending nsfw to children, and other serious claims on here require evidence. The whole "faked suicide" thing is also gross to claim without any evidence (and quite frankly seems oddly personal one way or another, keep your salt in your amino/discord chats or dms I beg)
A lot of this is just personal drama or communication issues. Also the whole design theft thing, was it actually a carbon copy or someone color picking 2 colors from a dragon adoptable.
Off site: Some of these users don't really have a presence on here.
Personal drama: Having beef with people does not warrant a public blacklist entry.
Strange/Vague Criteria: "Proshipper" means 329932 things nowadays. Please just learn to block people. Same thing with people being rude or "getting bad feelings", vibes are not facts.
Tone: I think the entire tone of this is really unprofessional, but then again the reasons the people here are listed for are a bunch of nothing burgers so I don't really know what to expect.
Serious accusations, no proof: Didn't see any proof of usage of slurs, unless it was hidden by all the screenshots of random shit.
Also there was an accessible doc yes, but again if the proof is abysmal, poorly formatted, or just hard to follow (or defunct) I barely count it as such. The proof was "alleged proshipping" and other nonsense mixed in with edgy jokes (which to be fair, really made the person seem like an asshole. It did NOT warrant a google doc though.)
Offsite users: One of these users has no connection to toyhouse. Why are we including YouTubers in our toyhouse blacklists.
Strange Criteria: Drawing porn is not a crime. Drawing suggestive art is not a crime. Also if you use "proshit" no matter what side of the argument you are on I am going to assume you are not mature enough to handle serious discussions.
Zero proof for the actual serious shit. Like the blackmail incest porn of a REAL cousin or actual zionism and genocide support. I also cropped out the last blacklist entry because it was insanely personal and described a minor's unhealthy obsession with venturing into adult spaces to such a degree I felt repulsed screenshotting the entire thing as it began to talk about irl pleasuring and I'm just not gonna entertain hosting a description that graphic about an alleged kid. Sorry. I don't even want proof for that one honestly, that seems like something people need to get involved with irl with the kid, not toyhouse drama.
None of these seem to be toyhouse users, all the proof is from Tumblr blogs.
Also again, stop adding minors to public blacklists. I felt sickened reading that.
"But there's proof" I check the proof to ensure it isn't defunct or full of nonsense unrelated to the claims being made before posting these to ensure I'm not posting genuine predator allegations or nazi allegations that are verified on the same level as they said this trust me bro shit, and I saw zero evidence of anything damning, just fandom shit and anonymous he said she said stuff I can't verify. No having a kink for noncon is not proof either, cnc is incredibly common, I'm not going to debate someone being a danger over a kink 1/4 of the population has. I only care if the person is harming real people.
The zionist proof is stupid it's just stuff about Jesus's ethnicity, whether he's Israeli or Palestinian and stuff about religious readings. I get some people don't believe Israel exists at all due to its muddied history and that's fine but I just can't seem to understand how mentioning a controversial country by its name is an indication of support.
There was a mention of Jewish people being murdered in Palestine yes, but nothing about genocide in Palestine not existing. The statement felt iffy, but I'm also not going to label someone as supporting genocide over one comment without any context. If they support the bombings or deny them, I want to see proof.
Also Two things can be true at once. I would never deny the genocide the IDF is partaking in, but the idea that saying a country did bad things is an indication you support them being bombed is ridiculous. By this logic acknowledging Ukraine has nazis must mean I support them being invaded, or America being run by Trump must mean I think every American is a racist that should die.
There's no discussions on genocide. Zero discussions on the person's opinion on Israel either. There was zero genocide denial and if there was it should have been screenshotted. I expected to see heinous shit and repulsive rhetoric not someone just saying the word Israel or debating Jesus's birthplace. That's not what zionism means. At worst the actual bad shit isn't being shown which is a problem, at best, someone's slightly ignorant but nowhere near the level of what I expected seeing "genocide support/denial" like come on.
I mean I'll give the user credit the blacklist is only one person and not worded in a way that's incredibly baffling. But its still a blacklist and one that just... doesn't warrant being the singular user on your public BL lol.
Vague/Discourse Oriented: I only vaguely know of Undertale and I had no idea what the hell this ship was until I googled it and it's not even a ship that contains anything considered taboo fiction it's just a toxic gay ship. Why is this blacklist worthy. Even if it was taboo please learn to block people. All I can see is that some people view the ship as bad because they associate it with family dynamics but I do not care. I don't even know if this user is on toyhouse this seems more fandom related.
Tone: I'm not asking people to sound like lawyers, but if this is the tone being used to describe alleged crimes mixed with petty mutual friendship drama, I'm really struggling to take you seriously.
Minors included: You know how I feel about 90% of blacklists that include minors. This is allegedly an 11 YEAR OLD. This is the second time I've seen someone younger than 13 on a blacklist that can be accessed by ANYONE with a TH account (or without w/o a guest block) this is getting ridiculous. Unless this 11 year old is committing Geneva convention violation level offenses, I can't see a single reason a report or block is less warranted.
Serious claims: Love how the "is also a pedophile/is also a nazi" is being included next to petty beef. Doxxing and other serious claims need more substance than "believe me I swear I'm not lying bro" and also if you throw words used to describe criminals and fascists like candy I think you should face consequences to your account considering shit like this can ruin lives. I'm so tired of seeing more proof included for design stealing and stupid chat bots and art of cartoon deer bonking than for actual life-ruining actions.
Vague/Petty/Strange: being an asshole and friendship drama are not public blacklist worthy offenses especially if they are taking place offsite. I do not care about discord drama unless the person is a criminal.
Zero proof for serious allegations: Zoophilia, grooming, transphobia, scamming, harassment... and zero proof. Can you tell I'm sick of seeing this lol.
Misuse of words: I'm making this its own category since it's so common. But narcissism is a disorder, you can have narcissistic traits without having NPD but please stop throwing around a word associated with a serious mental disorder/illness when you mean abusive, self-centered, or shitty.
Vague/Strange Criteria: People being rude and discord/group chat drama does not need to be aired out. "Claims to be inclusive and understanding" this can mean anything. Someone refusing to seek mental help, while not ideal, is also not something you need to include on a blacklist.
Tone: I get a lot of these people may suck, but there's no need for all this personally targeted "you are not welcome anywhere on my page" or "I don't want to her know." This is why I say the userbase has got to be more comfortable just using the block button.
Serious words being misused, serious claims never proof: Necrophilia applies to irl contact not weird art, and zoophilia requires proof. I'm going to assume zoophilic acts are discussing sexual abuse towards animals and nothing else. BC that's what actual zoophilia is.
Vague/Strange: "Creepy" "Annoying" "Weird" with no context can mean anything from selfshipping to being a nazi according to TH users. Finding something gross or weird does not mean you need to publicly blacklist someone. Block or mute them.
Also kinks and fetishes do not belong on blacklists no matter how icky you find them unless they're involving kids or animals or other unconsenting parties into it. Also yes the fat fetish art is going to be fat fetish art thank god for letting me know. I was terrified the fat fetish art wouldn't be fat fetish art.
Maybe I'm just blasĂŠ but all of these kinks are the tamest things ever these aren't even taboo/controversial aside from many the feral/pokemon nsfw but even then who gaf. Block. I don't like vore at all nor do I like mpreg so I just avoid it.
Formatting: there's no need to tiktok-style censor words like necrophile or zoophile. Serious terms deserve serious usage.
