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Recently Iâve been thinking about different components of sexual orientation, and how it is effectively formed of both internal identity and external behaviour. Itâs interesting that, without a detailed conversation with other individuals, we can only assume their orientation and identity on the basis of their external behaviour, which is all that is visible to us.
For example, if someone is in a long term, committed, monogamous relationship with a member of the opposite sex, they are assumed to be straight, and their behaviour is interpreted as representative of heterosexuality. But they might be bisexual. If someone is in a long term, committed, monogamous relationship with a member of the same sex, they are assumed to be gay/lesbian, and their behaviour is interpreted as representative of homosexuality. But they might be bisexual.
In this context, what external behaviour could someone exhibit that would lead to the assumption they were bisexual, and therefore that their behaviour is representative of bisexuality? Theyâd have to be engaging with the same sex and the opposite sex more or less simultaneously in order not to be assumed to be straight or gay/lesbian. How might that work?
They could be having regular sex with multiple people of both sexes (bisexuals are promiscuous, bisexuals are easy, bisexuals are sluts). They could be having multiple concurrent and short term relationships with people of both sexes (bisexuals canât commit, bisexuals will leave you for a member of the other sex). They could be having sex with people of both sexes at the same time (bisexuals are kinky, bisexuals have group sex, bisexuals want to have threesomes all the time). They could have a committed relationship with a member of one sex, and affairs with members of the other sex (bisexuals CHEAT). They could be non-monogamous and having various relationships with members of both sexes (bisexuals canât be satisfied with just one person).
So. In order for other people to recognise you as a bisexual person, you have to be engaging in some form of stigmatised and nonconforming sexual activity, all of which just happen to be typical stereotypes about bisexuality. The only way to be perceived as a bisexual person is to conform with bisexual stereotypes. A bisexual person who doesnât conform to a single bisexual stereotype cannot be perceived as a bisexual person, and therefore cannot disprove or undermine those stereotypes in the mind of the person perceiving them. Because if they donât conform to a single bisexual stereotype, they are perceived as heterosexual/homosexual, and their nice, conforming, virtuous behaviour is ascribed to that perceived monosexual identity. Even if they had previously exhibited bisexual behaviour (bisexuality is just a phase, theyâll eventually pick a side).
Alternatively, they could verbally assert their identity regularly enough to offset the assumptions others make on the basis of their behaviour (bisexuals are self-obsessed).
There is no way of being consistently perceived as a bisexual person, in the current landscape, without reinforcing bisexual stereotypes in the minds of those perceiving you, because if you donât align with and reinforce those stereotypes you are unperceivable as a bisexual person.
And, mentioned, but none of those stereotypes are positive. All of them come down to "bisexuals are bad"
So is or you bisexual and therefore bad or you are hetero/homosexual
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Bi women canât talk about being in relationships with men because thatâs seen as forcing heterosexuality upon gay and lesbian people. Bi women who previously identified as something other than bi canât talk about the process of realizing they were bi because thatâs seen as forcing heterosexuality upon lesbians. Bi women can only talk about being in relationships with women if they add 15 caveats about how they hate other bi women now and have discarded their bisexuality. Bi women in relationships with bi men or with lesbians have to swear up and down that they arenât fetishizing their partners.Â
Bi women canât talk about being happy (either single or in a relationship) because then people will take that as us having no problems in the world. Bi people canât talk about mundane issues such as media representation or language about bisexuals because thatâs too trivial. Bi women canât talk about their sex lives or wanting to be polyamorous because thatâs seen as too dirty and too gross and too predatory. Bi women canât produce or consume âsappy wuhluhwuh contentâ because thatâs seen as defanging and disrespecting lesbian identity and yet they canât talk about bisexual social alienation/trauma/invisibility/loneliness because âinvisibility is a privilegeâ and because âthose things are just stolen terms from gay and lesbian peopleâ.Â
Bi women canât talk about being unicorn hunted on dating apps because apparently they donât face that issue and instead perpetuate it and force lesbians to have threesomes with their male partners (apparently). Bi women canât talk about intracommunity biphobia without being told that we arenât radical for dating men and that LGBT spaces are safe gay spaces that weâd be invading.Â
Bi women canât call themselves gay even when theyâre in gay relationships. Bi women canât call themselves tops or bottoms even when theyâre having regular gay sex. Bi women canât call themselves queer because thatâs a slur but oh wait, itâs okay when other people weaponize that word against us. Bi women canât call themselves masc or femme because theyâd be stealing those terms from lesbians but oh wait they canât call themselves tomcats, does, or stags because those terms are cringeworthy imitations of butch/femme. Bi women canât talk about gender expression without being told theyâre appropriating ârealâ gay culture. Bi women canât talk about femininity without being told they perform it for men and bi women canât talk about masculinity without being told that being bi makes it impossible for them to be masculine.Â
Bi women canât talk about how unique relationships between bi women and bi men or bi women and bi women or bi men and bi men are. Bi women canât call their relationships âbisexualâ relationships because thatâs somehow âanti-materialismâ. Bi women canât talk about loving their male partners because thatâs anti-feminist but they canât talk about hating men as a class or their trauma with respect to men without being told that it means they must actually be âlesbians suffering from comphetâ.Â
Bi women canât talk about solidarity with LGBT people without being seen as selfish, nor can they talk about just bi women without being seen as selfish.Â
Bi women canât talk about the material, systemic, and sexual violence we face because apparently it isnât real, no matter how much empirically validated proof we offer, and if we do talk about it, weâre stealing lesbian specific experiences or erasing lesbian specific experiences or trying to claim gay and lesbian specific experiences.Â
Bi women canât talk about our place in overall LGBT history (because we were apparently invented in 1998) and we canât talk about bisexual history (because thatâs *spins wheel* taking the focus off the REAL radicals in the community).Â
Bi women have to be politically perfect all the time and have to allow people to scrutinize their personal lives and interpersonal relationships and sexual histories/traumas but itâs okay for people to not be in solidarity with us or to even offer us an ounce of empathy (and if we ask for it weâre whiny, selfish, and crying about non-issues). Bi women have to hate themselves and each other and hold each other responsible for all the worldâs problems 24/7 but can never hold people responsible for biphobia.Â
Bi women canât even talk about any of these things on their own blogs, in their own spaces, on their own time, with other bi women, because thatâs just too much.
There really is no winning.Â
The level of performance you demand from bi people as a whole, but especially of bi women, is motherfucking insane. I really donât get why you all demand bi women virtue signal their sexuality by ârejectingâ men in order to not deem them gross lesbophobes by virtue of existing. âEvenâ if they prefer men thatâs not necessarily out of some internalized homo/biphobia. They just like men. Thatâs kind of part of (most bi peopleâs) bisexuality. Shocker, I know.
A lot of the behaviors you all accuse bi women of (not taking other women seriously as partners, for example) are behaviors a lot of lesbians in denial exhibit too but in us you see victims of our own pain and misogyny who need help and understanding, while in bi women you see vile irredeemable perpetrators who must be ostracized and punished.
You blame them of their own abuse at the hands of cis straight men in ways that if you remove the âbiâ from âbi womenâ you would recognize as disgusting victim-blaming, WHILE rejecting them & pushing them out of LGBT spaces, which, guess what you fucking geniuses; leaves them to have cis straight men as their only viable option. Funny how that works. Youâre all âwomen should stay away from dating bi womenâ or âbi women fetishize lesbianism by wanting to be with womenâ but shame bi women for being with men IN THE SAME BREATH. What the fuck do you want them to do? Be celibate for your own biphobic comfort?
I legit saw idiots on Twitter say ânormalize lesbians only dating other lesbiansâ as if thatâs not whatâs normalized already. Bi women are already seen as gross sluts that kiss women at parties to turn men on and only seriously date men. What the fuck isnât normalized about lesbians dating lesbians only?
You think that I, a literal fucking dyke, didnât see women at some point as hot for sex and men as the only viable partners for serious relationships? Would you see me as a disgusting dangerous misogynist for having been there, or as struggling with internalized homophobia? If itâs the later, why donât you extend that same compassion to bi women? Only difference there is that Iâm a lesbian and theyâre bisexual.
Sure, they like men so being with men isnât INHERENTLY torture for them like it is for me, but you donât think that thinking/behaving that way is traumatizing for them too? They love women and are depriving themselves of that experience out of internalized biphobia, misogyny and homophobia. You think that doesnât fuck them up too? Theyâre hurting too, but you think that, unlike a lesbian who does the same, THEY deserve that suffering.
And no one is telling you to date them or to suffer for them through it just because theyâre suffering too. What youâre being told is to see them as the non-straight women they are whoâre suffering too and understand the complexity of their situation the same way you would someone like me.
You think too that the âsolutionâ to the horrendous rates of IPV they face with cis straight men is swearing off men. Would you tell straight women to do the same if they donât want to be abused by male partners? You wouldnât. Because you see straight women as not having âan optionâ but think bi women do and thus they MUST be asking to be abused. Literal âasking for itâ shit. Itâs all victim blaming + Boys Will Be Boys, but add a âbiâ to it and itâs progressive somehow.
This points to you seeing womenâs attraction to men as only ok when itâs not âchosenâ, just a passive reception of misogynistic violence (which, way to take away the agency of womenâs sexualities, you dumb bitches), but when they IN THEORY have a âchoiceâ because they also like women, their attraction to men is active instead of passive, and thus theyâre cock-sucking sluts whoâre choosing to endanger themselves. You see women whose desire for men is active, as deserving of whatever results from their involvement with men. You canât be a biphobe without being a misogynist.
You see bisexuality as a fractured amalgam of homosexuality + heterosexuality instead of its own standalone identity, and thus they can and MUST choose one or the other, because their âheterosexualâ attraction and their gay attraction are in active competition within them like the fucking two wolves shit. You canât be a biphobe without being a homophobe.
Bi womenâs attraction to men is NOT normalized and biphobes are living proof of it. Itâs not normalized; theyâre bisexual, not straight. Their attraction to men coexists with, interlinks with and isnât independent of their attraction to women. Bi women ARE shamed and punished for liking men because they donât like men alone, they simultaneously like women and those are inseparable for them.
If it was normalized, it wouldnât be widespread to blame them for the abuse they receive when involved with men, like they should pick a side for their abuse to count or matter. They wouldnât be pushed out of LGBT spaces for being with men, it wouldnât be seen by other LGBT people (even many bi women themselves) as a flaw in their sexuality that makes them a gay-straight chimera. They wouldnât feel ashamed of their attraction to men. They wouldnât be seen with suspicion for liking men if it was normalized.
Them simultaneously liking men is seen as not loving men âcorrectlyâ AND as not loving women âcorrectlyâ. No LGBT women (including cis bi women and straight trans women) are seen as doing love and sex âcorrectlyâ.
You can only claim bi womenâs attraction to men is normalized if you see bisexuality as a Lego combo of straight + gay and thus their attraction to men is separable from their attraction to women. Itâs not. Theyâre not cherry-picked bits and pieces of heterosexuality and homosexuality. Theyâre 100% bisexual, always, no matter in what way their bisexuality expresses itself. Be it bisexual with no preference, bisexual with a preference for women, or bisexual with a preference for men.
Itâs not 50-50% straight-gay, 25-75% straight-gay, or 80-20% straight-gay respectively. ALL are 100% bisexual-bisexual. If you canât respect that, youâre a homophobe and a misogynist.
And yes, it is HOMOphobic to see bi women with suspicion for liking men. You see âhomosexualâ attraction as inherently in jeopardy if thereâs a coexisting âheterosexualâ attraction because the gay one will be lesser and you see the âstraightâ one as a threat thatâll take precedent. Thatâs your gay insecurity from internalized homophobia speaking.
Then too, thereâs a reason biphobes think bi men are secretly gay, and bi women are secretly straight. You see men as the superior and inevitable choice for both. Thatâs misogyny. If youâre a biphobe, you ARE undoubtedly a misogynist and a homophobe, even if youâre gay and/or a woman yourself.
Every time people make armchair judgements of bisexual women as man-worshipers all I can think of is my sister who cried rivers of tears to me about how painful and stressing it is to over-perform her attraction to men whoâre not even her type (she likes gnc men!) just to stay closeted, and when I think of that, I wish so badly I could slap each and every person doing that.
And yeah! You read right, GNC MEN. Bisexuality is âgay enoughâ, âevenâ in their different-gender attraction, that plenty of bi women prefer gnc men, and plenty of bi men prefer gnc women. In fact, plenty of bi people, including the cis ones, are gnc themselves (with a specific tendency towards androgyny but thereâs many whoâre distinctly masculine/feminine at it) and thus much more visible as gay than someone like me; a fucking lesbian, but Iâm fem-presenting.
âBi people can stay closeted while in relationships.â So can gay men and lesbians who have beards, who hide our partners, whose partners are trans and closeted, if weâre trans and closeted ourselves, or if weâre single and not visibly gnc.
My relationship would be seen as straight by outsiders because my fiancĂŠ is a closeted trans lesbian. Unless youâre a transphobe you would NOT call that a fucking privilege. Itâs not a fucking privilege that sheâs forced to hide herself and hide that the nature of her exclusive love for women is gay. That shit fucking kills her inside. Itâs not a privilege that to keep the love of my life safe and myself too I have to pretend that our love is straight when it was so fucking hard for me to just detect, let alone ACCEPT and take pride in that I donât like men.
All of that keeps us safe, but at great emotional cost. Being closeted is safety for all LGBT people, but itâs not a privilege, itâs PAINFUL. You understand this when it comes to gay men and lesbians, and can feel compassion for us. Why not for bi people? Why are you so angry at bi people? Why do you hold so much contempt for bi people?
Iâll tell you why: BECAUSE YOUâRE BIGOTS.
someday y'all ought to acknowledge that bisexuals are owed a discussion (and frankly an apology too) about how we're the only minority that's allowed to lose the "privilege" of allyship over something as simple as being perceived annoying online.
i get that sometimes individuals of this demographic can step out of line (although it's bad enough that too many people treat all bisexuals as guilty of harmful behavior like we're a monolith, when that's not a risk for lesbians/gays despite how many members of their community say the most vile shit), but what's honestly concerning is often the dealbreaker is at so much lower of a stake than anything we actually did.
you just don't like us, so that makes all the abuse we face totally acceptable because we're subhuman. we fought with you for queer rights in decades past but rather than (not) repay that, you outright backstab us.
it's no wonder some of us are starting to become apathetic towards caring about issues other than our own. we only have each other, and the trans folk who overlap with our struggles for acceptance within our own spaces.
People need Jennifer's Body (2009) and Love Lies Bleeding (2024) to be lesbian films even if they are two of the queerest, messiest and most openly bisexual films of our times, simply because there is a certain subset of queer folks who see bisexuality as inherently less queer and more falling into the paradigm of heterosexual titillation for the male gaze. It is pretty much the same theory that governs the criticism of media like The Secret History (1992), Saltburn (2023) or Hannibal NBC (2013-2015) for queerbaiting or for "being cowards" about the depiction of same sex love stories between two men who are clearly bisexual or attracted to multiple genders in canon.
The onus of the blame for heteronormativity in contemporary publishing and media often falls upon bisexual women. I'm thinking of that God awful YouTube video by that Lavender Menace person who started speaking of how sapphic literature these days is so normative (I personally agree) before veering way⢠off course to spew vitriol about how this was because every popular sapphic book nowadays is bisexual and not performing the acceptable model of lesbianism or sapphic desire.
When films like Bound get talked about in terms of being a lesbian classic, nobody mentions the fact that Corky, the butch from the film demonstrates biphobic (and by extension lesbiphobic) feelings towards Violet, the femme, and considers her to be "lying" for the male gaze and performing queerness. The film ends positively, with Corky overcoming her biases and acknowledging that Violet is just as queer as she is. It's irrelevant if Violet is bisexual or a closeted lesbian (I lean towards the latter with reference to her character), what's relevant is the policing of certain kinds of identities as being "less" queer and the refusal to accept or show empathy towards bisexual women, as we are considered beings incapable of authentic self presentation or autonomous desire. Instead, we are all just a gaslit hivemind of people operating under comp het.
Bisexual women cannot have peace when it comes to representation; people took that one sentence about Poison Ivy wildly out of context, retconned decades of her representation as a bisexual icon in popular culture in love with another bisexual woman and then gaslit bisexual folks for being "annoying" about it on social media. When Love Lies Bleeding released, on Twitter, bisexual women were told to stfu because this is a film about "REAL butch4butch dykes" (and then you see the film made by a bisexual director and the muscle mommy you love to gatekeep is a) not a butch and b) an open and proud bisexual).
Villanelle, who was openly bisexual in the Killing Eve books, was retconned by fandom into a man hating lesbian and that apparently made her more authentically queer than Eve, who remained bisexual in both TV and source material. Of course, it is easier to see the more "visibly queer" Villanelle as a lesbian, while Eve, whose relationships centre men more, and who has to have her eyes opened by the sexy assassin hunting her down, can be bisexual.
I find this a really weird pattern. The whole subgenre of "bisexual woman having a reckoning and leaving her husband for a lesbian" is corny at best and poorly equates bisexuality with heteronormativity at worst, especially because the same formula is almost never applied to show a bi woman leaving her husband for another bi woman, or a lesbian leaving behind a comp het marriage or having a mid-life awakening in popular sapphic tradpub literature; the closest to this I can find is the novel Cash Delgado is Living the Dream (2024) by Taylor Kay Mejia.
It's silly, and vapid and frankly very condescending to assume that every bisexual women in popular media is actually a lesbian facing comphet. You need to unshackle your points from separatist biphobic rhetoric on social media, even if it is dressed in shallow feminist terminology. It's literally okay to let a film or book be bisexual, and I can promise you it doesn't make the narrative less queer or feminist or subversive.
I know some nasty people will be rbing this post and talking about how bisexuals are the privileged white people of the lgbtq community etc etc, and honestly I don't know how to articulate about this issue without coming off bitter, so here is an essay by Carmen Maria Machado, whose writing on bisexuality, queerness in horror/dark fiction and on sapphic literature & culture in general I highly recommend:
This essay is an exclusive excerpt from "It Came From the Closet."
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oh â yeah of course, i'd be honored! i just want credit and a link back. i would love to see camellian get its own space! <3
I just want to say your blog gives me a little bit of hope. I've always felt so out of place as a bisexual so seeing somebody call out the bullshit said about us is great.
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And now, after months of waiting, here are all the episodes of TOH season 1/ season 2/ season 3. This means you can now watch TOH without supporting Disney or *TheOwlClub (those guys can CHOKE).
If this is your first time watching TOH, here are some content/trigger warnings: self harm, animal abuse, child abuse, suicide, body horror, and death. (I'm pretty sure I got them all)
If you're going to use this, the only rules I have are: don't be a nark, save these on a physical external device, and maybe consider tagging me in any lumity fanart you come across. Past that, I don't really care what you do.
Also please understand what I mean when I say that you should save these on a physical device. It can be a DVD, SD card, USB drive, or whatever else you can. If you save this, it's yours forever. It doesn't matter what happens in the future because that way it's yours forever.
If you have any problems, questions, or concerns, you can send me a DM or an ask. The last thing I have to say is
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i found another mega link that has the series in 1080p (OP's is 480p) in the disneytoon discord server!
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