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We Lived Happily During the War

And when they bombed other people’s houses, we

protested but not enough, we opposed them but not enough. I was in my bed, around my bed America was falling: invisible house by invisible house by invisible house. I took a chair outside and watched the sun. In the sixth month of a disastrous reign in the house of money in the street of money in the city of money in the country of money, our great country of money, we (forgive us) lived happily during the war.

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“THESE DOCUMENTS CAN BE AMENDED.”

That’s ALL TONY WAS SAYING (or trying to say) throughout this movie.

The Avengers were being railroaded by Ross – it was either sign or “retire” (meaning you’re out of business or else you’re in prison). There WAS NO ALTERNATIVE. They would have been given the proper amount of time (so they couldn’t later sue) to read through and meet with legal counsel about the Accords, but they would have had to sign them.

But Tony desperately believes that elected officials don’t last, that a lot can happen as politics change and shift, and that DOCUMENTS CAN BE AMENDED. He may have been mistaken as far as Thaddeus Ross goes – because you can only play along with sharks so far before you get bitten – but both Tony and Steve make huge mistakes in this movie, and that was probably Tony’s worst one.

But what other choice does he have? Sign the Accords - or the Avengers are shut down. Sign the Accords - or you’ll all “retire.” Sign them, or watch all your friends go to jail. And remember, Tony knows something worse is coming to threaten the Earth - something that the Avengers HAVE to be together to face.

Yet Steve won’t listen - he’s the major force pulling the Avengers apart, and Tony can’t understand this at all. Why can’t he see that Steve’s way - rebelling, refusing to sign, is the way to death or imprisonment for half of their team, if not all of them? They’re SO CLOSE here, and yet Steve takes advantage of any excuse not to talk, not to really sit down and TALK THIS OUT with Tony. His annoyance about Wanda being “kept in her room” is his excuse here to walk out and not talk. Let’s see: Tony keeping a foreign national who just killed 11 people (which is on YOU and your leadership, Steve, since it was your mission…) SAFE in a SAFEHOUSE – versus THE ENTIRE TEAM being split up and in danger of their lives? I’d take Tony’s side here any time.

As you can tell, I’m super-annoyed with Steve’s bullheadedness and refusal to see the big picture throughout this movie. Rebelling and putting all your teammates in danger is not a rational response.

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Even the slightest hint of Steve considering Tony’s offer and argument: “there would have to be safeguards” and DO YOU SEE HOW FAST TONY’S POSTURE CHANGES?!?!? Like seriously he moves so quickly from closed off to open and receptive it’s not even funny. All Tony needed was for Steve to listen at least a little bit. And THAT was the tragedy.

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There’s so many false statements in this argument, I don’t even know where to begin.

1. There’s absolutely no guarantee the Avengers would have time to ‘read through and meet with legal counsel’ after signing the Accords. That’s not mentioned or even implied in the movie. Considering the Avengers had DAYS to read through an incredibly dense document, I highly doubt signing would give them any advantage. We actually see the opposite: Tony signing the Accords staves off nothing and gives him no benefit. He doesn’t realize this until the end of the movie.

2. Tony is not considering the fact that Steve cannot be separated from his powers like Tony can. Tony, Rhodey, and Nat get something out of signing; they can possibly stave off something worse for themselves, at least for awhile. But Steve, Bruce, Wanda, Bucky, Spidey, etc? They get nothing out of signing. It’s sign and be locked away, or ‘retire’ and be locked away. Hence your statement of “Steve’s way…is the way to death or imprisonment for half of their team, if not all of them?” is ironic. Because it would happen to them regardless. We know this from Ross’ speech about Bruce being a WMD that’s ‘on the loose’, from Bucky, from Wanda. Tony refuses to acknowledge this, in any form, throughout the movie. Steve’s mention of internment goes right over Tony’s head because he’s never experienced that loss of autonomy through government control that Steve/Wanda/Bucky/Bruce have.

3. Steve is not doing anything in regards to these Accords for 99% of this movie. “Rebelling”? Steve said he personally couldn’t sign. Not once did he try to convince others not to sign. He didn’t raise his shield and protest the Accords. He didn’t even fight the Accords. He doesn’t resist arrest when the UN steps in; he doesn’t fight them when they lock up Bucky. He asks how the trial will proceed, and about a lawyer, fully cooperating with the UN once their ridiculous kill-on-sight order is lifted. Steve also fully expects to go to jail for what he did in saving Bucky; he was well aware of the consequences of his actions. The only time he ‘rebels’ would be the airport scene, and even then, Tony ‘rebels’ too as soon as he gets that information.

4. Steve’s not breaking up the team any more than any other Avenger, including Tony. The Avengers are adults and perfectly capable of making their own decisions about whether to sign. Steve didn’t give a single fuck that Nat signed, so I don’t see how he’s SINGULARLY the reason the team is breaking up. They broke up during AoU.

5. This document is not Steve’s first rodeo of governments trying to control people for ‘the greater good’ and ‘safety’ and ‘peace’. Steve’s entire storyline is based around government documents and control. He’s signed these documents and they’ve gone to shit. He was literally created for this shit. This is the last straw, his final arc, his realization that he can’t sign this one because it’s no different than the rest. Steve’s just done with being a government plaything under their control. Tony’s never been one, so he has no idea. Try to remember that this is a Cap movie and at least attempt to see Steve’s perspective.

6. …I really hate the implication that Steve doesn’t listen, because that’s not true at all. Steve listened to the entire speech Ross gave, only interrupting once, when Ross delved into fear mongering. Steve then read the document (instant photographic memory is part of Steve’s superpowers. I realize this sounds lame, but yes, it’s MCU canon). He listens to Tony’s ENTIRE SPEECH without a word. He discusses the Accords with the other Avengers, but ultimately said he couldn’t sign. After Bucky’s arrest, he listens to Tony’s entire speech AGAIN without saying anything and even strongly considers signing, until he realizes Tony is manipulating him. That’s three times Steve has sat and listened to this salespitch. He also tries to explain the situation to Tony on the tarmac. The entire scene posted above is one giant manipulation by Tony, from the pen to the ‘safeguards’ to promising to get Bucky ‘help’ if Steve signs, NOT any kind of rational discussion on Tony’s part. So yes, Steve is listening every fucking time; he just doesn’t agree. I never saw Tony sitting quietly, listening to Steve or any opposing viewpoint. Or did I somehow miss that scene?

7. Tony thought he was doing the right thing with Wanda. No one is debating that. But he wasn’t. Tony does not have the right to hold that kind of power over someone. He lied to her, manipulated her, and told her it was for her protection. Just take a moment and think about that statement. “I did it to protect you”, when Wanda did not ask to be protected. How is that any different from “I’m deciding what’s best for you”? Wanda could choose to sign or face the consequences, but Tony never gave her that choice. The only reason Tony gets away with what he did is because Wanda is young (~18ish?). Imagine him trying to do that with Steve, or with Natasha. “I’m locking you up for your own protection until you change your mind and sign this document”. Honestly, why do people argue this was a perfectly reasonable move? “This isn’t protection, it’s internment” pretty much sums up the entire situation.

How would signing the Accords change this scenario, for Wanda? It wouldn’t. She wouldn’t walk free like Tony, with such a witch hunt against her. It would simply legalize what Tony is doing here, and shows how horribly fucking wrong the Accords will be. “I’m locking you away for you own good, for the safety of others and yourself! Peace and protection!” is the epitome of this entire document. This leads to nowhere good.

I don’t even disagree with government oversight. But the Accords situation was so incredibly fucked, and I’m tired of Tony fans rewriting the movie to suit their Steve-hate. Steve refused to sign because he believed the Accords would put his friends (and the world) in imminent danger, just like what happened to Bucky and how Bucky was used. What happened to Steve and how Steve was used, only a movie ago. This was a very informed decision, not based off emotions or ‘bullheadedness’. Yet he still allows others the freedom of their choice and doesn’t fight them on their own personal decision to sign.

If you honestly believe Steve does not have a legitimate argument in Civil War… you’ve never seen a Captain America movie before this one.

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Indigenous women of Standing Rock issue heartbreaking plea for help ahead of evacuation

With just over a day to go before the evacuation deadline arrives at North Dakota’s Oceti Sakowin camp, protesters at the Standing Rock Indian Reservation have issued a plea: Come help — now.

In a viral video shared by journalist Shaun King on Monday, a group of indigenous women remind viewers that demonstrations against the Dakota Access pipeline are about much more than a single issue.

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…yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis. They lost the right to not be punched in the face when they started spouting genocidal ideologies that in living memory killed millions upon millions of people. And anyone who stands up and respectfully applauds their perfect right to say these things should probably also be punched, because they are clearly surplus to human requirements. Nazis do not need a hug. Nazis do not need to be indulged. Their world doesn’t get better until you’ve been removed from it. Your false equivalences mean nothing. Their agenda is always, always, extermination. Nazis need a punch in the face.

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