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Pretty much an incorrect quotes blog about the characters in the Black Survival universe, run by some guy who is still addicted to the characters. Whatever you want to talk about or need help with when it comes to Black Survival, I'm at your call~ | Tags to look up: 'black survival playlist' to get a post with songs for each character (has not been updated for at least a year), 'newer character journals' to read the journals that aren't on that one document that has everyone before Laura (at least currently) | main blog is @rioespiraldaentropia, youtube channel is Nostalgic Changes
(also including a few links:the aglaia passes, the black survival manhwa on the internet archive, the acquaintance interview doc, the codex doc, and the research journal doc)
Meta-Player occurances in general, common to be in team matches
Kid Version-Posts where the character’s a kid (so like a flashback)
A Good Prank-JP pranking other people because that’s just the type of guy he is
Bottomless Pit Manghwa-for any quotes related to it
Aglaia’s Pass-for any quotes related to the stuff that happens in it
Manghwa Not Manga-for any quotes related to the black survival manghwa with isol, hyejin and hyunwoo (poking fun at my typo with their group tag)
The Aglaia Files-Researcher and experiment shenanigans
Apartment Comedy-for all the roommate and building-sharing shenanigans
School Daze-for any sort of highschool au or school related stuff
Texting Texting 1 2 3-self explanatory
Surviving The Algorithm-for anything relating to a youtube or social media au
Black and Survival - rpg shenanigans
The Manga Trio-Hyejin, Isol and Hyunwoo (12 04 16)
Acolyte Skins-Hyejin and Isol
Seolbim Skins-Hyejin and Hyunwoo (12 04)
The Manga Duo-Isol and Hyunwoo (04 16)
Reclusive Perfectionists-Isol and Yuki (16 31)
Hunting Shiba-Hyunwoo and Yuki
Bandaged Knuckles - Hyunwoo and Nicky
Explosive Cuteness - Isol and Nicky
The Religious Duo-Hyejin and Zahir
Glinting Eyes-Zahir and Eva (03 42)
Girls in Pink-Eva and Eleven
Adorable On Air-Eleven and Nicky
New Year’s Ribbons-Eleven and Hyejin (12 39)
Wish For Self Sufficiency-Isol and Eleven
Fighting Depression-Sissela and Hyunwoo
Frosted Shot-Rio and Sissela (41 27)
Japanese Neurodivergents-Rio and Yuki
Ranging Seriousness-Rio and Isol
Arrows of Fate-Rio and Hyejin
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Stragglers and Decoys-Sissela and Adela
Clean Wounds-Sissela and Luke
Dysfunctional Family-Sissela, Luke and Rio
The Better Father - Sissela and Shoichi
Table Manner Enthusiasts-Xiukai and Eleven
Pastel Dark Chocolate-Eleven and Rozzi (39 37)
Rays of Sunshine-Eleven and Emma
Pink And Blue-Eleven and Daniel
Sunshine In A Cloudy Day-Eleven, Emma and Daniel
Blood Orange-Nicky and Shoichi
Whip Wielding-Nicky and Laura
The Australian Duo-Nicky and Leon
Dead Stunt-Jenny and Nicky
Bickering Allies-Hyunwoo and Jenny
Kickboxing And Brawling-Hyunwoo and Jan
Killer Good Allies-Isol and Luke
Father Figure and Problem Child-Isol and Jan
Calming Rituals-Lenox and Isol
Remote Explosion-Barbara and Isol
The Brazilian Duo-Rozzi and Isol (37 16)
Poking the Tiger-Isol and JP
The Azumas-Shoichi and Azuko
Japanese Blades-Shoichi and Yuki
Fencing Swords-Fiora and Yuki
Proof and Formalities-Arda and Yuki
Religious Justice-Aya and Zahir
Danger Incoming-Zahir and Jackie
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Traces of the Past-Nathapon and Arda
Red Bull In Teacups-Arda and Shoichi (24 23)
Surrogate Parents-Shoichi and Fiora
Hitmen At Night-Shoichi and Luke
Hidden Motives-Luke and Alex (13 36)
High-class Lesbians-Jenny and Fiora (02 07)
Gay and Lesbian Solidarity-Fiora and Leon
Praise To No End-Barbara and Lenox
Exploding Turrets-Barbara and Celine
Mechanical Shenanigans-Barbara and Silvia (15 19)
Last Two Braincells-Li Dailin and Silvia (19 20)
Dodging Arrows-Nadine and Silvia
Downloading Alcohol Dot Exe-Li Dailin and Barbara
Never Miss a Hit-Li Dailin and Nadine
What Are We Doing Again- Silvia, Nadine, Li Dailin and Barbara (15 19 20 10)
Daddy Issues-Rozzi and Fiora
Moth Wreath-Sua and Rozzi
Skilled Assassins-Rozzi and Luke
Huntresses-Rozzi and Nadine
Pretty Blondes Near Your Area-Camilo and Clever Floyd
big fan of liars. big fan of characters whose entire existence is a facade. love it when everything's stripped away from them and the lie is the only thing left of their identity. love it when the lines between an act and the truth are blurring. are they even them without the lie? the lie doesn't become the truth per se, but it's now such an intricate part of them it might as well be.
Adela:ok so. honesty's sake, i gotta state, im doing adela on the "this character is interesting but nothing comes to mind because theyre not one of my blorbos so i have to do actual analysis" pass, if it helps lessen the sting to adela fans i am also doing chiara on this pass. you want to know something funny? i am running into the EXACT issue i ran into on my "these characters seem really obvious but i have to research this to know" pass (so like fiora elena and athletic company) where colleges have Chess Programs APPARENTLY. fuck me gently with a chainsaw. anyway, if adela went to college i get the feeling she'd get an economics degree. like she wants to ensure she sticks it to her parents vis a vis money management. or data analytics, which probably would be more useful to her chess champion thing
Adriana: honestly i considered leaving hers blank. not the most setup punchline of the list but it's close! vis a vis what she Should Be Doing Instead i think i've been seen suggesting she get into stuff like foresting or like. using fire for pyrotechnics and ergo entertainment instead of just arson. and thats all still pretty fair. i like it when someone does a twist on their old bad habits
Aiden:aiden really does not strike me as somebody who'd go to college. but. i knew this guy who went into compsci, obviously because i knew him from college, but he actually had a degree in a WILDLY different field and only went into compsci because he wanted a job in this economy. i think aiden is the opposite energy where he goes to get a degree in some bullshit like graphic design with his crazy amount of job experience and someone asks him why and he's like "dunno. wanted to try something different"
Alex:pretty sure we have a hard canonical answer on this and he seems happy enough with his job so. skip
Arda: i know i just said this but with arda it's even more of a hard canonical answer. we know this with certainty. at least with alex it's like "what if he got an english degree while nobody was looking"
Aya:do cops in japan actually have to get degrees, unlike in the states where they famously just have a short course and then get to handle guns. i'd assume criminal justice. maybe she'd get one despite not needing it, she sounds like the type
Barbara: canonically has a medical degree, once that bullshit was up i think to make her robots she'd have to do engineering and compsci? i think there's specific degrees to making machinery but i cant think of how to look that up effectively and within an hour of rabbit holing
Bernice: i dont actually care enough about bernice to go double check if this is right but i think his backstory really does not allow a college experience? i feel like he became a hunter basically the second he was going to get employed, and he has that strong vibe of getting employed without even a gap year or considering college
Bianca: her dramatic ass is going into musical theater 1000%
Camilo: tbh some of these i am phoning in. i am phoning camilo in. he would obviously have a dance major degree and i don't think i care what other shit he did
Cathy:you know something. she objectively has a medical degree. but for a second i thought to myself, DOES she have it? like. do you know how competitive that shit is. how the hell did she get it. like are we certain. how the fuck did cathy survive college being.... cathy???
Celine:i gotta be real with you guys. i dont give a shit about celine. like i was praying her journals would bail me out of having to research what degrees you'd need for bombs and i felt so relieved when her journals went "no she was self taught and also she makes bombs using magic". im not as annoyed by her as i am felix because felix comes across as lazily written to me, while celine comes across as what you get when you try to write a character with a hyperfixation and don't stick the landing, yk? but yeah she canonically just. taught herself how to make bombs and then went into the military. so im bailed out of having to get into a government watchlist!
Chiara:side fact that doesnt matter i am writing this while jelloapocalypse playing danganronpa 2 is background noise and her japanese va is called kei maeda. and i went KOMAEDA?? like a loser. anyway onto the actual post's topic, i would feel bad sending chiara into college because yes it turns you into a commie but it also sucks the soul out of you. my thought on what i would have chiara pick up as a hobby that would help with her general psyche is that i would turn her thing of making evil dolls into her picking up doll modding but moreso as a sort of therapeutic thing of making something nice with her own hands, like a twist on her bad coping mechanisms becoming good ones. i think that'd be cute
Chloe:i think it's heavily implied she genuinely is just self taught at making her marionettes. i'm kinda noticing a pattern of all the newer characters being magically self taught on their craft though which is a brand new annoyance that i was not expecting to have??
Daniel:one of those "i could research the exact name of this but i know it exists and Dont Care" situations. i know there's specific majors for cutting hair. he probably did one of those, but he definitely also was that one student who excels yet HATES his teachers and thinks they're all stupid. he can't have majored in art because sissela canonically didnt think his art was very good by the way before someone brings this up. lmao. but tbh i think daniel would be happier if he redirected his great passion into an art degree i just doubt he even thinks that's an option
Echion: now even if his situation enabled going to college. look me in the fucking eye and tell me ECHION is going to college. like we don't really know his pre echion phase but i cant imagine giving him a cool arm turned him into a bitch, he had to already have been a bitch, you know??
Elena:ok so this is making me realize i don't fucking know how sports and degrees work together. i briefly looked it up and it doesnt SOUND like ice skating degrees are a thing but there ARE programs, in colleges, to enable it. so. i dont know how this shit works. the key trick is that i don't have a single dream profession that is sports based so i have not once checked this until right now
Eleven:it's hard because there are exactly two types of streamer. cellbit (youtuber as a teenager who somehow ascends from that so hard everybody forgets he was a youtuber when theyre not making jokes about his bad commercials) and jarvis johnson (computer science degree owner, real ass job history, somehow ended up doing shit like dhar mann bingo instead). so i would have to pick which one i think she fulfills best, right. my thought is that she might do a film-making course or something like that to know how to handle the filming of her stuff, but she would probably end up going back to streaming at some point you feel me. i guess i'm suggesting some weird mix of both types
Eva: i'm feeling major in fashion? it's hard because eva is not much of a character, i'm just going off my random vibe of "i think she'd like to make clothes, based on that bullshit she's wearing which she cannot have bought anywhere"
Emma: i am unable to imagine emma going to college. i'm pretty sure there's degrees that would help with stage magic but i am unable to imagine her getting those. weirdly i think if she DID go, she would instead do some shit like liberal arts or communication or english which would not really do jack shit for magic
Felix:majored in spear minored in poor
Fiora:so i briefly looked this up in order to know if fiora is filed under "her profession requires a specific degree and ergo we don't get to have fun" or "her profession doesn't actually require that specific of a degree so we get to have fun". there isn't really apparently such a thing as a fencing major, so i think we do get to have fun. in her journals they mention she was good at math, and aside from other stuff like her liking things neat and tidy we can assume that if she was getting a degree alongside her fencing training it would have to be exact sciences if you're not going predictable and saying she'd have something in sports or fitness. i think it'd be funny if she had a fucking degree in statistics for some reason so i propose that, with a minor in health/fitness because. yeah. she'd probably have it
Hart: as said by abby-dragon who rec'd this idea. hart probably majored in agriculture, minored in music, but REALLY SHOULD HAVE instead learned psychology. i don't really have any unique thoughts on her here. wish hart was a more cohesively written character
Hyejin:see, a thing about hyejin is that as i understand it, shamanism in korea is taken very seriously and you have to treat it respectfully (i do realize how ironic it SOUNDS for me as a person to be saying that but i don't respect christianism because of its colonial roots, i can respect religions and their rituals just fine when it's umbanda or judaism or indeed korean shamanism), so when it comes to her i always get conflicted between "her fatalism coming from her belief in fate is provably kind of harmful for her" and "the concept of fate is a loaded thing to criticize in her case specifically". so i kind of think to myself. when she grows up, should she still be a shaman? or should her arc be about finding her own path in life? i don't have a solution for this and ergo don't have a good answer on whether she would go to college. i guess just to have anything said, i think something unrelated she could do as a hobby i think she'd enjoy weirdly is throwing clay. making clay sculptures
Hyunwoo: hyunwoo is so aimless and wants to be An Adult so bad. i am so fucking certain he'd try to take law or some shit because it's an Adult Respectable Profession and burn out within a semester. anyway i think hyunwoo's ideal profession is teaching or sports coaching. as shown in the manhwa he's not great at complicated theory but he is otherwise a good enough teacher and that sort of thing is always cute. i'm a sucker for it, i know it's a cliche, i'm a sucker for it
Isol: im realizing that it's not ACTUALLY canon that isol didnt really get any education. he probably actually did go to some form of catholic school until MOK. which. oh boy. is that perhaps worse. when it comes to stuff like what he WOULD learn in college if he went, that's such a hard question because i feel like he would not go to college lmao. i do see him as someone who craves learning because he has these prodigy vibes though so he'd probably be doing a hundred different courses, none of which are even a little bit intended to help him get employed. im still enamored with the idea of isol becoming a gardener or florist btw the years did not change this
Jackie: is her being an undertaker actually canon. im going to check hold on. yeah lmao the journals dont seem to mention it. now im fucking wondering if that was some shit someone made up at me years ago, if this is some esoteric hidden knowledge from the mysterious black universe i've never read, or whatever. god im way too focused on that though............ can we just call it canon who cares............. (i think if she didnt go to college to get that sort of mortuary stuff you'd need to actually become an undertaker shed Not Go. im not sure she can withstand college at all even. she would kill her professor. people made jokes about me killing one of mine and i didnt even actually hate him that bad or have any general strong urge to murder, imagine if jackie got saddled with a bad professor too)
Jan: see the thing about all these fucking sports characters is that there aren't really sports majors. it's all some shit you either would have separate classes on or some shit you'd get mentored on. so it's way harder to make up your mind here. but i actually don't think jan would have a degree? i don't think he's against the idea, i think it's just a sort of "never really had the stars align for it" or "never really needed it and never specifically wanted it" situation where he went from his life struggle to kickboxing and none of those points really lead to college
Jenny: probably majored in drama, minored in musical theater or something like that
Johann: are. are there. courses. for priests. i don't know how becoming a priest works i just get the feeling there isn't one
JP: honestly i was just looking through the names to see what sparked anything, saw JP, and immediately laughed at the sheer idea of JP going to fucking college. if he ever "wanted" to get a computer science degree, he'd probably just hack into the classes to get that shit independently because he doesn't want to bother with an actual degree. lmao JP going to college..... setup punchline
Laura:ok so you know how in that last roll call post i couldnt suss out anything for laura and silent crane pulled out the hilarious "well all we know is that she likes wine so she uses social media to look at wine". this is a stupid bit i want to continue here. there are wine making courses. She Did One Of Those in her free time between thievery (i dont think you can go to college to become a thief so unlike my complaint with celine this one's fine)
Lenox: i would be AMAZED. what the fuck would a mafia woman major in?? gun????
Leon: see this case is sad because i like leon. but i got NOTHIN, baby. like vis a vis him being a swimmer i dont get the vibe he should be doing something else, you get me? like his latent gayness "enjoyment of cute things", a metaphor only rivaled by miraculous ladybug going "this clearly gay character writes comics about homoerotic tension between two knights, with his friend, and his mom says comics arent a respectable artform", doesnt really have atrition with that you feel me? but i will be fair, that florist leon skin is very very cute. i think he absolutely could be a florist and fall in love with a tattoo artist. to my understanding thats not something you go to college for though
Li Dailin: absolutely no way she'd go to college
Luke: i don't think his story really has any place to fit college in. i'm pretty sure most cleaning jobs are about job experience, not having a Degree In Cleaning. and. see above lenox what would a hitman major in, gun?
Magnus: probably thinks college turns you into a spineless liberal
Mai: fashion degree. this experiment roll call post shit is easy
Nadine: completely different reason to JP but i also looked at the idea of nadine going to college and went "lmao shes not doing that". she's got way too much self-taught vibes, she'd probably hate college
Nathapon: god could you imagine having to go to college when you have periodic memory loss. he MUST be self-taught. unless my guess of how it works (he only forgets things when Something Bad Happens) is correct and he actually remembered most of college through itself because he miraculously didnt have even one professor who yelled at him for having a subpar photo
Nicky: probably should be in the process of a drama major but i dont think thats canon. i actually don't mind her profession of choice
Rio:i know what you may be thinking. ahh she loves cats ergo my judgement of her profession would be vet. i actually do not like vets and would feel bad making her be one. i think you can do other shit if you like animals but people keep going ahh i should be a vet because i love (non-mutt, non-black) cats and (non-mutt, probably just meant golden retrievers and huskies) dogs! and if anybody brings me a non-perfect "non-cute" pet i'm gonna mistreat it and basically ensure it dies when it gets sick by not treating it and gaslighting its owner, like i'm cat-racist! in the same way that bully from high school decides she should be a nurse, or that "empath" decides she'd be a great psychologist, you get me? anyway i think she should actually be an architect but i wasted way too much time dunking on vets to explain that thought process, so :/
Rosalio:fun fact him and william are the ones i did DEAD LAST. mostly because in canon it's so unresolved i dont know what to even do. like idk if i buy that he's good to animals when he's the sort of guy he is. i also dont know if baseball is the thing they should do. idk!
Rozzi: apparently there are specialized confectionary degrees. thats what she'd do if she retired from being a merc
Shoichi: you want to know something funny. that one for funsies fic i mentioned has a bit that forced me to look up whether shoichi would go to college, so i hilariously had an answer to this but only months ago when i looked that shit up! i'm pretty sure what i settled on was that he has a business degree, if japan has minors then he'd have an economics minor. although i also recall that to be a stock broker you actually dont need a degree at all and i sort of went "shoichi looks like he'd have a degree". i truly do not feel like redoing that exact research, you feel me
Silvia:i don't think she could withstand college. like. she's written to be CARTOONISHLY adhd, you feel me. can you imagine silvia withstanding college? most people with adhd i've seen who went to college relate considering quitting a lot, i think she wouldn't last a month before going ugggg i gotta quitttttt
Sissela: i hear that a lot of self-taught artists end up feeling kind of choked by art professors who don't really "get" their style of art. sissela might have a similar issue weirdly. also i think she has way too hard a life for me to want to send her to college, she needs like FIVE gap years
Sua: i know there's degrees for becoming a librarian. she has Those. if english isn't one of those, freely include it in the bundle. i don't feel like looking it up and i don't recall sua having any interests other than Book, so like. at best something like a minor in creative writing if you want anything interesting
Tia: isnt she canonically an art major. similarly to sua she doesnt have a lot going on aside from her one hyperfixation though. maybe some weird shit like a minor in biology since she keeps MAKING ANIMALS
William: guess who only right this second wondered if his stamina skill referred to the innings in baseball. it is! ninth inning is the last one according to my vague wikipedia understanding of it. i wonder if someone from that part of the team is reading this right now thinking FINALLY. SOMEONE FUCKING NOTICED. I AM SO HAPPY. anyway you may be thinking i'll say he should be a gardener and while the fact that i already assigned two other dudes to flowers plays a part i actually dont know if i want that because they say he doesnt water them, meaning the only plant he might not kill over time is a cactus. i kind of want to call it at I Dont Know Man for him. idk. he seems to actually want to stick to sports though
Xiukai: now i know there are cooking degrees. and i think not only xiukai has extensive degrees on making food, i think if you doubted his skills in a more accusing-him-of-being-uneducated way he'd quote his entire CV at you. i doubt it's a thing he values more than his actual practical skill but i do think if you were enough of an ass he might pull out that gastronomy degree
Yuki:you know, yuki's canonically like this heir to this old money family. so they're probably gonna want him doing a business degree. but you want to know the funny thing. i think yuki would be like gah i don't want this business degree, i want an equally "profession your parents try to get you to be" sort of profession but im dramatic about it. like he wants heart of hearts to be a fucking surgeon but acts like damocles with the sword over him about it, you feel me
Zahir: you know how in hyejin's i mused on how i'm unsure of whether i'd be disrespecting someone's religion. i forget zahir is an example of this because for some reason they translated his god's name in english, making it sound like it's a made-up religion instead of sikhism which is a real ass fucking religion. like i did cursory research and from what i understood you would not translate vaheguru as mighty one either, it's usually translated more like wondrous one because it derives from an expression of wonder, it's at best circularly about how vaheguru is powerful and mighty so even if you ARE translating it, that is not a good translation, it's like if i was adapting a christian character and when adapting god capital g i was like "i'll call him this language's words for all-seeing one because they say god is omniscient" like buddy that is not the main thing that matters and you don't have to fucking translate it!!!! it's like they're inserting the christian idea of god as something you fear into a completely different religion!!!!!!!! the big idea with vaheguru is that he's good and defeats darkness with his light and he's awe-inducing not scary!!!!!!!!!!!. also zahir is part of the "written so inscrutably i have trouble getting in their head effectively" crew so i genuinely could not tell you what this man would be studying. like. idk. philosophy major. incredible that i phrased it like he doesnt have the aura of a philosophy major just emanating from him i almost rewrote this because in retrospect OBVIOUSLY zahir would be a philosophy major
So, about Jackie being an undertaker- I think I started that one back the days by making a joke that if she would've been one, it would be very ironic for her to have to sew up the very corpses she mangled. I don't think even BLACK UNIVERSE covers how exactly she makes ends meet, but I have a fun theory to suggest about her current occupation. What if she is, in fact, an unofficially employed construction worker? She has access to a lot of building equipment, after all, and she does wear a typical orange jumpsuit of someone in the trade. It's a job she could've gotten without any formal education, at it would've made it very easy for her to both hide the victims currently in torture (for example, on the off-limit construction sites) or stalk people without anyone noticing (memorizing locals schedules and picking up on potential easy victims during the shifts). If the gigs are sketchy and she's paid in old hard cash, her bosses might not ever see her documents, and she'd be able to disappear without a witness at any moment. Also, did I mention her being covered in scars?
On a side-note, I bet Emma seriously went to Clown College if she is, in fact, a professional magician.
Also, wasn't Leon canonically in the Navy? Or was it just his dad?
In fear of going on a rant, I personally stand Sissela being a taxidermist, because look me in the eye and explain for what other reason this woman knows how to shoot a gun. I don't even need to say that taxidermy thematically fits - like, come on, dryflower Sissela is a thing - but it would be so on brand with her to participated in an art form that strives to achieve an objective perfect representation of a living thing - meticulously stringing together a bouquet of dried flowers, pruning away the impurities, or evening out every feather on a magpie before carefully articulating the wings on a hand-carved foam form- it would be a literal reflection of the desire to maintain at least something perfectly preserved and undamaged. But also, I'm a taxidermist myself, so I'm hella biased on this one.
Oh right, think I'll throw these as a supplementary fun fact:
At the sunset of their career, athletes typically go into sports teaching educations. As for how to become one, typically it's covered by sport sections and specialized middle- and high schools. I even used to be in one myself, for a month! That was, indeed, a mistake.
Priests typically go to seminaries or study theology.
Magnus Carlsen, who definitely served as an inspiration for Adela Gro, did not pursue any higher education and fully focused on his chess career. The more you know.
Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) is a special training on top of the military degree. But, fun fact, Explosive Engineering is a masters one can take on top of a normal civil engineering degree!
While you can take a major in viticulture or enology, making wine as a hobby is usually just a passed-on experience. Brewing alcohol is surprisingly uncomplicated process. You could even try it yourself today!
According to a fun little study, mobsters typically get an incomplete highschooler degree, so there's that for Lenox.
There are many special certificates for a variety of East Asian dishes that require an immense skill to prepare (such as Fugu Preparation License, you guessed it! But so are there some for grilling eels, for example), so I'll make a confident guess XiuKai got a few of those.
I'll be more tame with replies next time. Thanks for taking your time to write the post! Hope you're doing well.
skimming a response to the stuff that stuck out to me so i dont forget but Head Hurty so if i get anything better to say i'll probably swing by later
-t. that makes a lot of sense weirdly. fuck. just saw so clearly a mental image of jackie catcalling somebody over it though lmao
-i dont remember leon being in the navy beyond having a skin of that, and i actually read his wiki stuff for this post so i doubt i just forgor. but thats possible
-i also enjoy that idea a lot, i think i just kinda forgor that thats a path to run for what she'd do but i think it's a thing she could def go into if she didnt just become a Professional Artist. sidenote hilarious of you to go "at risk of ranting too much" on the post where i go "yeah so i ranted too much to explain why i think rio is an architect fuck you :/". this is the ranting place
-this is a theme but i forgot you can fucking. do a theology course. which is incredible because i had ethics classes in my degree and that guy pulled up that theology degree like crazy, i know more of the bible than some actual christians
-thats amazing. going to specialize on the engineering thats for bombs
We now officially welcome 14M-RFT03, Zahir Sighn, onto the island. Apparently, he is having secret conversations with the lamp post - perhaps, a slightly healthier way to deal with the absence of his religion community.
On a side-note, Mr. Meiji seems to have found interest in meditation. Hopefully, bonding between the two would be for everyone's benefit.
Regular madness unfolds; Polaris album "Love, Love and Peace" reached the island, stirring up a wave of pure obsession.
Test subjects are being test subjects, and researchers are being researchers.
On a side-note, fun fact : while Fiora fell for the now-married Jackie, recently arrived William immediately got a thing for Jenny. Hearts will be broken, eventually.
Adela:ok so. honesty's sake, i gotta state, im doing adela on the "this character is interesting but nothing comes to mind because theyre not one of my blorbos so i have to do actual analysis" pass, if it helps lessen the sting to adela fans i am also doing chiara on this pass. you want to know something funny? i am running into the EXACT issue i ran into on my "these characters seem really obvious but i have to research this to know" pass (so like fiora elena and athletic company) where colleges have Chess Programs APPARENTLY. fuck me gently with a chainsaw. anyway, if adela went to college i get the feeling she'd get an economics degree. like she wants to ensure she sticks it to her parents vis a vis money management. or data analytics, which probably would be more useful to her chess champion thing
Adriana: honestly i considered leaving hers blank. not the most setup punchline of the list but it's close! vis a vis what she Should Be Doing Instead i think i've been seen suggesting she get into stuff like foresting or like. using fire for pyrotechnics and ergo entertainment instead of just arson. and thats all still pretty fair. i like it when someone does a twist on their old bad habits
Aiden:aiden really does not strike me as somebody who'd go to college. but. i knew this guy who went into compsci, obviously because i knew him from college, but he actually had a degree in a WILDLY different field and only went into compsci because he wanted a job in this economy. i think aiden is the opposite energy where he goes to get a degree in some bullshit like graphic design with his crazy amount of job experience and someone asks him why and he's like "dunno. wanted to try something different"
Alex:pretty sure we have a hard canonical answer on this and he seems happy enough with his job so. skip
Arda: i know i just said this but with arda it's even more of a hard canonical answer. we know this with certainty. at least with alex it's like "what if he got an english degree while nobody was looking"
Aya:do cops in japan actually have to get degrees, unlike in the states where they famously just have a short course and then get to handle guns. i'd assume criminal justice. maybe she'd get one despite not needing it, she sounds like the type
Barbara: canonically has a medical degree, once that bullshit was up i think to make her robots she'd have to do engineering and compsci? i think there's specific degrees to making machinery but i cant think of how to look that up effectively and within an hour of rabbit holing
Bernice: i dont actually care enough about bernice to go double check if this is right but i think his backstory really does not allow a college experience? i feel like he became a hunter basically the second he was going to get employed, and he has that strong vibe of getting employed without even a gap year or considering college
Bianca: her dramatic ass is going into musical theater 1000%
Camilo: tbh some of these i am phoning in. i am phoning camilo in. he would obviously have a dance major degree and i don't think i care what other shit he did
Cathy:you know something. she objectively has a medical degree. but for a second i thought to myself, DOES she have it? like. do you know how competitive that shit is. how the hell did she get it. like are we certain. how the fuck did cathy survive college being.... cathy???
Celine:i gotta be real with you guys. i dont give a shit about celine. like i was praying her journals would bail me out of having to research what degrees you'd need for bombs and i felt so relieved when her journals went "no she was self taught and also she makes bombs using magic". im not as annoyed by her as i am felix because felix comes across as lazily written to me, while celine comes across as what you get when you try to write a character with a hyperfixation and don't stick the landing, yk? but yeah she canonically just. taught herself how to make bombs and then went into the military. so im bailed out of having to get into a government watchlist!
Chiara:side fact that doesnt matter i am writing this while jelloapocalypse playing danganronpa 2 is background noise and her japanese va is called kei maeda. and i went KOMAEDA?? like a loser. anyway onto the actual post's topic, i would feel bad sending chiara into college because yes it turns you into a commie but it also sucks the soul out of you. my thought on what i would have chiara pick up as a hobby that would help with her general psyche is that i would turn her thing of making evil dolls into her picking up doll modding but moreso as a sort of therapeutic thing of making something nice with her own hands, like a twist on her bad coping mechanisms becoming good ones. i think that'd be cute
Chloe:i think it's heavily implied she genuinely is just self taught at making her marionettes. i'm kinda noticing a pattern of all the newer characters being magically self taught on their craft though which is a brand new annoyance that i was not expecting to have??
Daniel:one of those "i could research the exact name of this but i know it exists and Dont Care" situations. i know there's specific majors for cutting hair. he probably did one of those, but he definitely also was that one student who excels yet HATES his teachers and thinks they're all stupid. he can't have majored in art because sissela canonically didnt think his art was very good by the way before someone brings this up. lmao. but tbh i think daniel would be happier if he redirected his great passion into an art degree i just doubt he even thinks that's an option
Echion: now even if his situation enabled going to college. look me in the fucking eye and tell me ECHION is going to college. like we don't really know his pre echion phase but i cant imagine giving him a cool arm turned him into a bitch, he had to already have been a bitch, you know??
Elena:ok so this is making me realize i don't fucking know how sports and degrees work together. i briefly looked it up and it doesnt SOUND like ice skating degrees are a thing but there ARE programs, in colleges, to enable it. so. i dont know how this shit works. the key trick is that i don't have a single dream profession that is sports based so i have not once checked this until right now
Eleven:it's hard because there are exactly two types of streamer. cellbit (youtuber as a teenager who somehow ascends from that so hard everybody forgets he was a youtuber when theyre not making jokes about his bad commercials) and jarvis johnson (computer science degree owner, real ass job history, somehow ended up doing shit like dhar mann bingo instead). so i would have to pick which one i think she fulfills best, right. my thought is that she might do a film-making course or something like that to know how to handle the filming of her stuff, but she would probably end up going back to streaming at some point you feel me. i guess i'm suggesting some weird mix of both types
Eva: i'm feeling major in fashion? it's hard because eva is not much of a character, i'm just going off my random vibe of "i think she'd like to make clothes, based on that bullshit she's wearing which she cannot have bought anywhere"
Emma: i am unable to imagine emma going to college. i'm pretty sure there's degrees that would help with stage magic but i am unable to imagine her getting those. weirdly i think if she DID go, she would instead do some shit like liberal arts or communication or english which would not really do jack shit for magic
Felix:majored in spear minored in poor
Fiora:so i briefly looked this up in order to know if fiora is filed under "her profession requires a specific degree and ergo we don't get to have fun" or "her profession doesn't actually require that specific of a degree so we get to have fun". there isn't really apparently such a thing as a fencing major, so i think we do get to have fun. in her journals they mention she was good at math, and aside from other stuff like her liking things neat and tidy we can assume that if she was getting a degree alongside her fencing training it would have to be exact sciences if you're not going predictable and saying she'd have something in sports or fitness. i think it'd be funny if she had a fucking degree in statistics for some reason so i propose that, with a minor in health/fitness because. yeah. she'd probably have it
Hart: as said by abby-dragon who rec'd this idea. hart probably majored in agriculture, minored in music, but REALLY SHOULD HAVE instead learned psychology. i don't really have any unique thoughts on her here. wish hart was a more cohesively written character
Hyejin:see, a thing about hyejin is that as i understand it, shamanism in korea is taken very seriously and you have to treat it respectfully (i do realize how ironic it SOUNDS for me as a person to be saying that but i don't respect christianism because of its colonial roots, i can respect religions and their rituals just fine when it's umbanda or judaism or indeed korean shamanism), so when it comes to her i always get conflicted between "her fatalism coming from her belief in fate is provably kind of harmful for her" and "the concept of fate is a loaded thing to criticize in her case specifically". so i kind of think to myself. when she grows up, should she still be a shaman? or should her arc be about finding her own path in life? i don't have a solution for this and ergo don't have a good answer on whether she would go to college. i guess just to have anything said, i think something unrelated she could do as a hobby i think she'd enjoy weirdly is throwing clay. making clay sculptures
Hyunwoo: hyunwoo is so aimless and wants to be An Adult so bad. i am so fucking certain he'd try to take law or some shit because it's an Adult Respectable Profession and burn out within a semester. anyway i think hyunwoo's ideal profession is teaching or sports coaching. as shown in the manhwa he's not great at complicated theory but he is otherwise a good enough teacher and that sort of thing is always cute. i'm a sucker for it, i know it's a cliche, i'm a sucker for it
Isol: im realizing that it's not ACTUALLY canon that isol didnt really get any education. he probably actually did go to some form of catholic school until MOK. which. oh boy. is that perhaps worse. when it comes to stuff like what he WOULD learn in college if he went, that's such a hard question because i feel like he would not go to college lmao. i do see him as someone who craves learning because he has these prodigy vibes though so he'd probably be doing a hundred different courses, none of which are even a little bit intended to help him get employed. im still enamored with the idea of isol becoming a gardener or florist btw the years did not change this
Jackie: is her being an undertaker actually canon. im going to check hold on. yeah lmao the journals dont seem to mention it. now im fucking wondering if that was some shit someone made up at me years ago, if this is some esoteric hidden knowledge from the mysterious black universe i've never read, or whatever. god im way too focused on that though............ can we just call it canon who cares............. (i think if she didnt go to college to get that sort of mortuary stuff you'd need to actually become an undertaker shed Not Go. im not sure she can withstand college at all even. she would kill her professor. people made jokes about me killing one of mine and i didnt even actually hate him that bad or have any general strong urge to murder, imagine if jackie got saddled with a bad professor too)
Jan: see the thing about all these fucking sports characters is that there aren't really sports majors. it's all some shit you either would have separate classes on or some shit you'd get mentored on. so it's way harder to make up your mind here. but i actually don't think jan would have a degree? i don't think he's against the idea, i think it's just a sort of "never really had the stars align for it" or "never really needed it and never specifically wanted it" situation where he went from his life struggle to kickboxing and none of those points really lead to college
Jenny: probably majored in drama, minored in musical theater or something like that
Johann: are. are there. courses. for priests. i don't know how becoming a priest works i just get the feeling there isn't one
JP: honestly i was just looking through the names to see what sparked anything, saw JP, and immediately laughed at the sheer idea of JP going to fucking college. if he ever "wanted" to get a computer science degree, he'd probably just hack into the classes to get that shit independently because he doesn't want to bother with an actual degree. lmao JP going to college..... setup punchline
Laura:ok so you know how in that last roll call post i couldnt suss out anything for laura and silent crane pulled out the hilarious "well all we know is that she likes wine so she uses social media to look at wine". this is a stupid bit i want to continue here. there are wine making courses. She Did One Of Those in her free time between thievery (i dont think you can go to college to become a thief so unlike my complaint with celine this one's fine)
Lenox: i would be AMAZED. what the fuck would a mafia woman major in?? gun????
Leon: see this case is sad because i like leon. but i got NOTHIN, baby. like vis a vis him being a swimmer i dont get the vibe he should be doing something else, you get me? like his latent gayness "enjoyment of cute things", a metaphor only rivaled by miraculous ladybug going "this clearly gay character writes comics about homoerotic tension between two knights, with his friend, and his mom says comics arent a respectable artform", doesnt really have atrition with that you feel me? but i will be fair, that florist leon skin is very very cute. i think he absolutely could be a florist and fall in love with a tattoo artist. to my understanding thats not something you go to college for though
Li Dailin: absolutely no way she'd go to college
Luke: i don't think his story really has any place to fit college in. i'm pretty sure most cleaning jobs are about job experience, not having a Degree In Cleaning. and. see above lenox what would a hitman major in, gun?
Magnus: probably thinks college turns you into a spineless liberal
Mai: fashion degree. this experiment roll call post shit is easy
Nadine: completely different reason to JP but i also looked at the idea of nadine going to college and went "lmao shes not doing that". she's got way too much self-taught vibes, she'd probably hate college
Nathapon: god could you imagine having to go to college when you have periodic memory loss. he MUST be self-taught. unless my guess of how it works (he only forgets things when Something Bad Happens) is correct and he actually remembered most of college through itself because he miraculously didnt have even one professor who yelled at him for having a subpar photo
Nicky: probably should be in the process of a drama major but i dont think thats canon. i actually don't mind her profession of choice
Rio:i know what you may be thinking. ahh she loves cats ergo my judgement of her profession would be vet. i actually do not like vets and would feel bad making her be one. i think you can do other shit if you like animals but people keep going ahh i should be a vet because i love (non-mutt, non-black) cats and (non-mutt, probably just meant golden retrievers and huskies) dogs! and if anybody brings me a non-perfect "non-cute" pet i'm gonna mistreat it and basically ensure it dies when it gets sick by not treating it and gaslighting its owner, like i'm cat-racist! in the same way that bully from high school decides she should be a nurse, or that "empath" decides she'd be a great psychologist, you get me? anyway i think she should actually be an architect but i wasted way too much time dunking on vets to explain that thought process, so :/
Rosalio:fun fact him and william are the ones i did DEAD LAST. mostly because in canon it's so unresolved i dont know what to even do. like idk if i buy that he's good to animals when he's the sort of guy he is. i also dont know if baseball is the thing they should do. idk!
Rozzi: apparently there are specialized confectionary degrees. thats what she'd do if she retired from being a merc
Shoichi: you want to know something funny. that one for funsies fic i mentioned has a bit that forced me to look up whether shoichi would go to college, so i hilariously had an answer to this but only months ago when i looked that shit up! i'm pretty sure what i settled on was that he has a business degree, if japan has minors then he'd have an economics minor. although i also recall that to be a stock broker you actually dont need a degree at all and i sort of went "shoichi looks like he'd have a degree". i truly do not feel like redoing that exact research, you feel me
Silvia:i don't think she could withstand college. like. she's written to be CARTOONISHLY adhd, you feel me. can you imagine silvia withstanding college? most people with adhd i've seen who went to college relate considering quitting a lot, i think she wouldn't last a month before going ugggg i gotta quitttttt
Sissela: i hear that a lot of self-taught artists end up feeling kind of choked by art professors who don't really "get" their style of art. sissela might have a similar issue weirdly. also i think she has way too hard a life for me to want to send her to college, she needs like FIVE gap years
Sua: i know there's degrees for becoming a librarian. she has Those. if english isn't one of those, freely include it in the bundle. i don't feel like looking it up and i don't recall sua having any interests other than Book, so like. at best something like a minor in creative writing if you want anything interesting
Tia: isnt she canonically an art major. similarly to sua she doesnt have a lot going on aside from her one hyperfixation though. maybe some weird shit like a minor in biology since she keeps MAKING ANIMALS
William: guess who only right this second wondered if his stamina skill referred to the innings in baseball. it is! ninth inning is the last one according to my vague wikipedia understanding of it. i wonder if someone from that part of the team is reading this right now thinking FINALLY. SOMEONE FUCKING NOTICED. I AM SO HAPPY. anyway you may be thinking i'll say he should be a gardener and while the fact that i already assigned two other dudes to flowers plays a part i actually dont know if i want that because they say he doesnt water them, meaning the only plant he might not kill over time is a cactus. i kind of want to call it at I Dont Know Man for him. idk. he seems to actually want to stick to sports though
Xiukai: now i know there are cooking degrees. and i think not only xiukai has extensive degrees on making food, i think if you doubted his skills in a more accusing-him-of-being-uneducated way he'd quote his entire CV at you. i doubt it's a thing he values more than his actual practical skill but i do think if you were enough of an ass he might pull out that gastronomy degree
Yuki:you know, yuki's canonically like this heir to this old money family. so they're probably gonna want him doing a business degree. but you want to know the funny thing. i think yuki would be like gah i don't want this business degree, i want an equally "profession your parents try to get you to be" sort of profession but im dramatic about it. like he wants heart of hearts to be a fucking surgeon but acts like damocles with the sword over him about it, you feel me
Zahir: you know how in hyejin's i mused on how i'm unsure of whether i'd be disrespecting someone's religion. i forget zahir is an example of this because for some reason they translated his god's name in english, making it sound like it's a made-up religion instead of sikhism which is a real ass fucking religion. like i did cursory research and from what i understood you would not translate vaheguru as mighty one either, it's usually translated more like wondrous one because it derives from an expression of wonder, it's at best circularly about how vaheguru is powerful and mighty so even if you ARE translating it, that is not a good translation, it's like if i was adapting a christian character and when adapting god capital g i was like "i'll call him this language's words for all-seeing one because they say god is omniscient" like buddy that is not the main thing that matters and you don't have to fucking translate it!!!! it's like they're inserting the christian idea of god as something you fear into a completely different religion!!!!!!!! the big idea with vaheguru is that he's good and defeats darkness with his light and he's awe-inducing not scary!!!!!!!!!!!. also zahir is part of the "written so inscrutably i have trouble getting in their head effectively" crew so i genuinely could not tell you what this man would be studying. like. idk. philosophy major. incredible that i phrased it like he doesnt have the aura of a philosophy major just emanating from him i almost rewrote this because in retrospect OBVIOUSLY zahir would be a philosophy major
You know what, after that whole rant about poor character writing, I've got a fun ask.
What education do you think every character acquired (if they got to uni/trade school, what's the specialization?)?
As an additional challenge, what education do you think would've actually been most beneficial for them to take (in their past or as something to pursue currently)?
To keep the ball rolling, I bet Hart minored in music and probably had to take her major in agriculture under family's pressure. Assuming that achieving love and peace is her goal, I think she should pursue at least a minor in psychology, and take a course on creative writing, for good measure.
that sounds like a big character post to get ready tbh since it's all of them. i'll get it started and see when i can chip away at it
Nope, BLACK UNIVERSE is a very different thing from the Black Survival Manhwa; it was a short collection of backstories for Hyejin, Hyunwoo, Jackie and Xiu Kai.
i see. no idea where you could find those then considering i'm pretty sure i never got ahold of those in the first place
Do you know if any groups or people will never finish the last few chapters of the isol-hyejin-hyunwoo manwha? 🥺 there’s also the hyejin manhwa out there I’d love to read one day.
I don’t know, honestly. I could try and look around for it if I still had the translation I used to have since there would be the artist and writer credit, which I could use to look around with (i always love an excuse to research things and learn some korean writing sounds and translations), but I don’t have it anymore since my phone had to have its memory reset a month or two ago
I’ll try to see if I can get it back but my new phone is of a different brand so I’m not putting an awful lot of hope on that
I also wouldn’t hope too hard that someone finishes it either since the part it ends on doesn’t leave much for the imagination; one of them is dead, the two left have to separate, the game’s getting near the end so everything after now includes one of the two dying
Because of that, the only thing i can see being written after that point is straight pain and angst, which isn’t a thing most people who love the setting and characters enough to spend hours drawing for would want to make, there’s bound to be someone who would but those are rare
the only thing I could see having good odds of being done with that is ‘the three meet again post game in a different game’, which isn’t an ending so much as another whole story
tl:dr this is gonna take a while for me to try and confirm but i love a research adventure even when it has a mediocre ending
ok found the preceding ask. it really was just the manhwa. tbh yeah those final few pages are fully just shit i could not find back then and doubt i could find now, the stuff like "xiukai in the end eats everybody" or whatever has always been hearsay, but the main body of it i'm pretty sure you can still find in sketchy manga websites if you look up "black survival manhwa". my old link is dead but since i've already been on an archival kick over the internet wanting to force you to fork over your ID to look at funny videos i'll probably go ahead and make an archival copy myself to put up on the internet archive if it isn't already there
Do you know if any groups or people will never finish the last few chapters of the isol-hyejin-hyunwoo manwha? 🥺 there’s also the hyejin manhwa out there I’d love to read one day.
I don’t know, honestly. I could try and look around for it if I still had the translation I used to have since there would be the artist and writer credit, which I could use to look around with (i always love an excuse to research things and learn some korean writing sounds and translations), but I don’t have it anymore since my phone had to have its memory reset a month or two ago
I’ll try to see if I can get it back but my new phone is of a different brand so I’m not putting an awful lot of hope on that
I also wouldn’t hope too hard that someone finishes it either since the part it ends on doesn’t leave much for the imagination; one of them is dead, the two left have to separate, the game’s getting near the end so everything after now includes one of the two dying
Because of that, the only thing i can see being written after that point is straight pain and angst, which isn’t a thing most people who love the setting and characters enough to spend hours drawing for would want to make, there’s bound to be someone who would but those are rare
the only thing I could see having good odds of being done with that is ‘the three meet again post game in a different game’, which isn’t an ending so much as another whole story
tl:dr this is gonna take a while for me to try and confirm but i love a research adventure even when it has a mediocre ending
ok found the preceding ask. it really was just the manhwa. tbh yeah those final few pages are fully just shit i could not find back then and doubt i could find now, the stuff like "xiukai in the end eats everybody" or whatever has always been hearsay, but the main body of it i'm pretty sure you can still find in sketchy manga websites if you look up "black survival manhwa". my old link is dead but since i've already been on an archival kick over the internet wanting to force you to fork over your ID to look at funny videos i'll probably go ahead and make an archival copy myself to put up on the internet archive if it isn't already there
