Burn's Burner Account

Separate blog from my main for discussing drama

[burneraccounts-posts]

Hey guys, it's me again

I was going through my files to clean them out, and stumbled across the snow stuff I had saved. It's been a few months, and I looked over it all again and it made me re-remember something that kept bugging me at the time but I didn't know whether or not to say anything. Since the situation is calmer and the AHT is involved (I sent them evidence as well), I just want to call out something the people defending snow were saying. Yes, she WAS a teen at the time she made the weird hanahki fanfic with "Strawberry Cookie"'s oc and the other weird drawings and content surrounding SC's oc. But that doesn't excuse her actions or make it okay. It was still bullying. Plus, SC was also a teen, a MUCH YOUNGER teen that snow. Snow was bullying someone younger than her just because she was jealous a kid shipped their oc with a character snow shipped their own character with. That's petty, mean, and being a teenager doesn't excuse it. Besides, snow was 18-19 at the time. That's an age where someone should REALLY know better. I hope Strawberry Cookie chooses to cut ties with snow because honestly? Snow is just a bad friend and a bully to them.

[anaban44]

I don't know if this was mentioned, but sn0w also posted her "totally not nsfw" art uncensored in two discord servers with minors present. I feel like it's relevant to what you're saying.

Snek and Starry have posted about it so you could probably ask them about it.

To be fair, this is the only thing that Triggers me, as I said in my post, I don't care of what kind of art she post, I don't care how problematic or suggestive is, if is shotabait or any sht

I saw and Tumblr is tagged as a +17 place, yet there's a lot of minors here, as I said to snow, that is not her fault, BUT WHAT IS HER FAULT is knowing there's a kid wander in her posts and let them be there

Been in a group where there's minors and allow them to watch at it, is her fault, this is the last post I will do about this subject, I'm trying to be transparent as possible, and indeed I believe people can change, but for me is hard to believe someone change if is not capable to accept they do something wrong, to apologize

[firewall000]

about the whole thing with snow posting that one art unspoilered in two servers, allegedly:

As far as I’ve been told, she never posted it in her server. (See screenshot, from my and Snows DMs)

if it was tagged correctly on Tumblr, I don’t see why she wouldn’t tag it correctly on Discord. (Nazkars addition sums up my thoughts pretty well)

I have yet to see proof of any sort of witness claims to that one. Unless I’m misremembering, no one who was actually present at the time said anything and instead it’s been a He Said She Said type thing.

[burneraccounts-posts]

I spoke with "Strawberry Cookie" in dms and she said sn0w DID post the drawings mentioned. Other people who were in both sn0w's server and alzin's server at the time confirmed it as well.

SC told me she didn't remember if it was tagged but the people I've been speaking with said it was not tagged or spoilered when posted in the servers. And while I agree nudity itself is not inherently sexual, the drawing in question WAS rather... intimate. Given that there were minors in the servers where it was posted, it should have been tagged and spoilered or just... not posted there at all.

[burneraccounts-posts]

It’s been brought to my attention that tiredsn0w is STILL interacting with Wulver, someone who has interacted inappropriately with users who are minors.

Link to the post with this exchange:

Reblog by @tiredsn0w

💬 3  🔁 3  ❤️ 5 · So-called Scout from TF2 when I grow him in a vat and throw him off a building and h(e/is internal organs) explode(s) painf

[burneraccounts-posts]

Hey guys! I'm back!

I apologize for my absence. My family went on a surprise and I decided to take a small break so I could enjoy it. I'm back now and my ask box and dms are open if anyone needs me for anything.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Will there be a doc on snow coming out in the future? I think we need to have everything listed in an easily accessible way rather than only having tumblr posts.

That's a good idea, I'll work on that.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Something that's been on my mind...

During this whole sn0w situation, and as I've been looking through screenshots and blogs and responses, I kept noticing how whenever someone makes a critic or raises a concern with sn0w, she kind of... passive aggressively brushes it off or uses the "well if you think that, there's something wrong with you, not me" response. I can't explain why, but something about that hasn't been sitting right with me. I didn't know how to bring it up, so I didn't really say anything until now.

I noticed this especially with the weird drawing of 6118 struggling with eating and 049 acting aroused over it, specifically the caption with the drawing. The caption said, "I realized in hindsight that this could be interpreted as sexual". Then why are you surprised and getting upset people are interpreting it sexual/uncomfortable if you acknowledged it could be seen that way? That doesn't make sense. I understand that when it comes to criticism, not all of it is going to be good, but to brush it off or turn it around on the person and say there's something wrong with them is not a proper way to handle it. In laymen's terms it's just... kinda mean and makes it look like you can't handle criticism.

Like I said, it's something I notices with a lot of her responses to the people raising concerns, and I didn't know how to put it into words myself until now.

[starynightandblackskys]

Genuine question as someone also concerned about the snow situation, Do you have any evidence of snow harassing other users?

I have testimonies but no screenshot of her because they weren't taken at the time and the server where most of it happened is now deleated (mostly likely), I know this is a lack laster answer for something so serius and i apologiese this is the best i can do for now (i think some screenshots were posted 2/3 years ago when I and another person called out both wulver and snow but I muself think how i handle that stuff back then was quite shitty and vague idk)

[burneraccounts-posts]

I appreciate the honest answer, thank you.

[anaban44]

Important

All right, here I go… The past few most the case of @tiredsn0w @tiredsn0w-extrablu has become popular and not for good reasons, this person has been accused of grooming and pedophilia, I will clarify, I have never heard of this woman before this problem, but is serious, so, I decide to investigate and before trying to send something offensive against her I firstly tried to talk

I take a look around in her profile and something I can indeed say, her art can be misunderstanding  SO easily, she said “I’m not really responsible how others see my art” and in a way, that is true, but THAT is not the main problem here

“And, even if someone younger did find my works - kids get abused, kids are disabled, kids are mentally ill, kids self-harm, kids have thoughts of suicide” with this message you prove me that indeed you don’t care if kids actually watch your art and here come the main problem, you SHOULD CARE IF THEY FIND IT, why? Because, yes, you are right, kids with problems exist, but not all the kids, and definitely this is not the place, nor the way to treat such themes, time have prove me this next point, your art is found to be sexual, or easy to fetishy EVEN IF YOU DON’T WANT TO, and, if adults are getting it wrong, how much kids?

I showed some of her drawings to people not aware of this situation and not giving any contex and in conclusion their comments can resume in, feeling uncomfortable or find it kinky, why for me was important to show them with no context? Easy, MOST of the people trend to just scroll and like when the main thing is art, and just THE INTERESTED people will actually click for the context, out of that, people will NOT CARE for it   For the second and fourth drawing you are literally admitting that the whole intention is to show he is been objectify, and you have to give me a whole context in order to I didn’t get it even more wrong

First you try to justify that your character is small because he has dwarfism, I was like “okay, maybe you don’t know how to draw them and that’s why you made him looks so childlike even when you can easily look when a dwarf is a kid or an adult, so I tried to remark that and just until then you change your argument  explaining me that “no he has a very specific kind of dwarfism of little person”  which first, is not the scientific name of the syndrome, second makes the person who suffers from it LOOKS AS A CHILD So yeah, is a real condition but with this you just recognize your character INTENTIONALY LOOK AS A CHILD

And no, if you are not giving well the context that is not “education” that is morbid, you also said  SCP universe is not mean for kids, so that lead us to the beginning, scp is not meant for kids, NEITHER YOUR ART With all this I’m not asking you to stop drawing or posting your art, but just as SCP literally has it’s own page PRECISELY to avoid kids to reach it so easily, you should post your art in a different place, not in a platform where THERE’S PEOPLE OF 13 YEARS ALLOWED AND EVEN DARED TO PRETEND IS GOOD IF THEY LOOK AT IT Is like put a filter to it, just as SCP, this things aren’t mean for kids, and because of that they have a WARNING, and of course some kids will not care of it and see it anyways, and that is because of a bad care and not because the page is allowing it again, you are free to draw and post whatever you want BUT BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE PLACES YOU DO IT    

For last this are my conclusions:

Just because you “didn’t intend” of your drawings to be sexualized will not take away the fact IT ARE SEXUALICED AND FETISHIED SCP 6118 design IS INTENTIONALLY child looking which make him shota bait, “but that wasn’t my intention” SHUT UP! Hell is full of well-intended people, you didn’t mean BUT IT IS   If at any point you believe is okay to show this to a kid, to justify your actions saying that is “educational” that you are trying to give “visibility” IT IS WRONG  and if you are not capable to accept it and  CHANGE IT, then yes, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM and minimize sexual and suggestive situations to a kid indeed MAKES YOU A GROOMER Also, if anyone is thinking I'm taking out of context the conversation, no, is literally all

[burneraccounts-posts]

Wow... this is a LOT to take in... Reblogging to help spread information.

[burneraccounts-posts]

List of all the things being discussed in the tiredsn0w situation

Keep in mind, I am neutral in this situation. I'm just trying to organize everything being said so I can gather information.

-Posting drawings containing sensitive content in two servers (one owned by her and one owned by Wulver) uncensored despite minors being present in said servers. -Harassing and bullying other SCP artists. -Bullying "Strawberry Cookie" through SC's oc and enabling Alzin, another wiki writer, to do so via writing. (Disproved after speaking to SC in DMs) -Perpetuating racist stereotypes and the fetishization of black men.

-Romanticizing/making light of unhealthy dynamics. -Depictions of a character with childlike appearance in a sexualized manner. -Association with Wulver and Rowan, two known predators. -Fetishizing disabilities/people with disabilities. If I missed anything, I'll add on to this post.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Reblogging this because I made some edits after speaking with SC.

[thethrowaway1000-deactivated202]

I would like to add a few things:

– This post by the person who requested one of the drawings (the bathtub drawing) claims that the image had no sexual intent. However, there is little proof of the spoilering of the drawing within the discord servers, as they were not in it.

– There have been at least two people who confirmed that the image was unspoilered: the first person who reached out to Snek about the image, and a different person who reached out to me, but I would like to keep their identity anonymous for now.

– The post that was linked above also claims that the cropped images were both proven to be SFW, but that might only be the case for one of the drawings. For the other drawing, its origins are unknown, unless there has been some information that has been missed:

[ From the post about the cropped images:

] – The first drawing being “iffy” could imply that starrynight is suspicious of its contents, but they are unsure of what exactly is occurring within the image. The second image is the one that has been proven to be SFW.

– About the harassment part, most that has been shown is that tiredsn0w has stated her boundaries on SCP-049 x SCP-035, which she did not want to see in her own server, as well as disliking SCP-049 x OC shippers.

– Tiredsn0w is allowed to make rules for her own server and create boundaries for what she is uncomfortable with. This specifically would not be considered harassment.

– However, it is unfair to perpetuate the idea of the ship being canonically abusive, especially using your own tale/canon, as the ship has existed long before the publishing of SCP-6118:

[

From this post by firewall000. It is a long thread, I recommend reading some of it to get some of tiredsn0ws perspective:

]

(though this could be stating that this is from [tiredsn0w’s] canon and not necessarily from all SCP wiki canons. This is either something that tiredsn0w has told firewall000, or something that they have picked up themselves from reading tiredsn0w’s tales)

– The SCP wiki has multiple canons, and there is little information on their canon interactions asides from a few tales, as well as the original SCP-049 article that heavily implies an amicable interaction in the addendum. The only indication of an unhealthy relationship between the two outside of this are SCP-035’s proclivity to manipulate others and other inexcusable acts both have committed against others that inform their behaviors.

– Yes, I am being nitpicky here, so I would also like to say that I do not want this to turn into shipping discourse. That would be extremely inappropriate for the current situation. Tiredsn0w does not seem to push this idea anymore, so it would be safe to say that we should leave this topic behind.

– Someone has also reached out to me claiming that they and others were harassed by tiredsn0w, but the specific discord server they were on has since then been deleted. There is no remaining evidence of these interactions. None of the people associated with this want to be involved, nor do they want their identities publicly revealed. The person who has informed me of this allowed me to post this with paraphrasing.

Also this, since my reblog does not show the edit:

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If anyone has been involved in any of the servers mentioned, you may reach out to anyone involved here.

[burneraccounts-posts]

I was also reached out to about sn0w harassing other users, which is why I included it in my post. I'm still waiting on evidence to be provided but I still thought it was worth listing since it IS relevant in this situation. And yes, there's nothing wrong with setting a boundary in your own server about content you are uncomfortable with, but if the claims of sn0w going out of her way to harass others on other platforms over said content, then it's a problem and is just her being a bully.

And as for the shipping thing, I don't really care what people ship as long as it isn't anything illegal, but harassing others over a ship you don't like? I'm sorry, but that's just childish. Just block the tag and move on with your life. For example, I don't really like peachcacao in the CRK fandom. There's nothing WRONG with it, I just don't really see it. Do I go harassing tumblr users who ship it and make art of it? No, because that's stupid. I just scroll.

[thethrowaway1000-deactivated202]

I was also informed of the details of the harassment, but I was told not to expose them because the people who were presumably harassed did not want those specific details to be publicized.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Yeah same. Let them speak up when they feel comfortable and ready.

[sneakysnekbetch]

I FINALLY HEARD BACK FROM THE AHT!!!

The person I sent the evidence too said they were going to look into the matter and do an investigation of their own and most likely talk to sn0w themselves.

I can finally rest…

[burneraccounts-posts]

Good to hear the AHT is doing something.

[burneraccounts-posts]

to be honest, yes, sounds fun! I'm a big Star Wars fan, and i love to see people watching it for the first time

Sweet! I'm going to be starting with the original trilogy, specifically "A New Hope" since it was the first on my friend's list. I gonna try to go into this as blind as possible.

[burneraccounts-posts]

List of all the things being discussed in the tiredsn0w situation

Keep in mind, I am neutral in this situation. I'm just trying to organize everything being said so I can gather information.

-Posting drawings containing sensitive content in two servers (one owned by her and one owned by Wulver) uncensored despite minors being present in said servers. -Harassing and bullying other SCP artists. -Bullying "Strawberry Cookie" through SC's oc and enabling Alzin, another wiki writer, to do so via writing. (Disproved after speaking to SC in DMs) -Perpetuating racist stereotypes and the fetishization of black men.

-Romanticizing/making light of unhealthy dynamics. -Depictions of a character with childlike appearance in a sexualized manner. -Association with Wulver and Rowan, two known predators. -Fetishizing disabilities/people with disabilities. If I missed anything, I'll add on to this post.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Reblogging this because I made some edits after speaking with SC.

[thethrowaway1000-deactivated202]

I would like to add a few things:

– This post by the person who requested one of the drawings (the bathtub drawing) claims that the image had no sexual intent. However, there is little proof of the spoilering of the drawing within the discord servers, as they were not in it.

– There have been at least two people who confirmed that the image was unspoilered: the first person who reached out to Snek about the image, and a different person who reached out to me, but I would like to keep their identity anonymous for now.

– The post that was linked above also claims that the cropped images were both proven to be SFW, but that might only be the case for one of the drawings. For the other drawing, its origins are unknown, unless there has been some information that has been missed:

[ From the post about the cropped images:

] – The first drawing being “iffy” could imply that starrynight is suspicious of its contents, but they are unsure of what exactly is occurring within the image. The second image is the one that has been proven to be SFW.

– About the harassment part, most that has been shown is that tiredsn0w has stated her boundaries on SCP-049 x SCP-035, which she did not want to see in her own server, as well as disliking SCP-049 x OC shippers.

– Tiredsn0w is allowed to make rules for her own server and create boundaries for what she is uncomfortable with. This specifically would not be considered harassment.

– However, it is unfair to perpetuate the idea of the ship being canonically abusive, especially using your own tale/canon, as the ship has existed long before the publishing of SCP-6118:

[

From this post by firewall000. It is a long thread, I recommend reading some of it to get some of tiredsn0ws perspective:

]

(though this could be stating that this is from [tiredsn0w’s] canon and not necessarily from all SCP wiki canons. This is either something that tiredsn0w has told firewall000, or something that they have picked up themselves from reading tiredsn0w’s tales)

– The SCP wiki has multiple canons, and there is little information on their canon interactions asides from a few tales, as well as the original SCP-049 article that heavily implies an amicable interaction in the addendum. The only indication of an unhealthy relationship between the two outside of this are SCP-035’s proclivity to manipulate others and other inexcusable acts both have committed against others that inform their behaviors.

– Yes, I am being nitpicky here, so I would also like to say that I do not want this to turn into shipping discourse. That would be extremely inappropriate for the current situation. Tiredsn0w does not seem to push this idea anymore, so it would be safe to say that we should leave this topic behind.

– Someone has also reached out to me claiming that they and others were harassed by tiredsn0w, but the specific discord server they were on has since then been deleted. There is no remaining evidence of these interactions. None of the people associated with this want to be involved, nor do they want their identities publicly revealed. The person who has informed me of this allowed me to post this with paraphrasing.

Also this, since my reblog does not show the edit:

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If anyone has been involved in any of the servers mentioned, you may reach out to anyone involved here.

[burneraccounts-posts]

I was also reached out to about sn0w harassing other users, which is why I included it in my post. I'm still waiting on evidence to be provided but I still thought it was worth listing since it IS relevant in this situation. And yes, there's nothing wrong with setting a boundary in your own server about content you are uncomfortable with, but if the claims of sn0w going out of her way to harass others on other platforms over said content, then it's a problem and is just her being a bully.

And as for the shipping thing, I don't really care what people ship as long as it isn't anything illegal, but harassing others over a ship you don't like? I'm sorry, but that's just childish. Just block the tag and move on with your life. For example, I don't really like peachcacao in the CRK fandom. There's nothing WRONG with it, I just don't really see it. Do I go harassing tumblr users who ship it and make art of it? No, because that's stupid. I just scroll.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Not serious post, just curious about something

Would anyone be interested in me giving my blind reactions/commentary on different media? I kinda want to cover more than drama on this blog, and I thought it would be kind of fun to go over different media and giving my thoughts. I was thinking about starting with Star Wars, which I somehow have gone 17 years of life without seeing in full AND my friend just provided me a master list on the watch order. Tldr, Burn blind reacts to all of Star wars, yes or no?

[burneraccounts-posts]

List of all the things being discussed in the tiredsn0w situation

Keep in mind, I am neutral in this situation. I'm just trying to organize everything being said so I can gather information.

-Posting drawings containing sensitive content in two servers (one owned by her and one owned by Wulver) uncensored despite minors being present in said servers. -Harassing and bullying other SCP artists. -Bullying "Strawberry Cookie" through SC's oc and enabling Alzin, another wiki writer, to do so via writing. (Disproved after speaking to SC in DMs) -Perpetuating racist stereotypes and the fetishization of black men.

-Romanticizing/making light of unhealthy dynamics. -Depictions of a character with childlike appearance in a sexualized manner. -Association with Wulver and Rowan, two known predators. -Fetishizing disabilities/people with disabilities. If I missed anything, I'll add on to this post.

[burneraccounts-posts]

Reblogging this because I made some edits after speaking with SC.

[burneraccounts-posts]

I had a conversation with "Strawberry Cookie" in dms. She asked me not to post our conversation or the screenshots she provided and asked I paraphrase what we discussed instead. I asked her about the hanahaki fanfic and the Alagadda tale which involved her oc and if she consented for her oc to be used. She said yes and provided me screenshots of her agreeing to both. I asked her how she felt about both writings and she told me that at the time, she was fine with them both but now would have preferred if Alzin had consulted her about writing her oc and how to portray the character. I also asked her about some of the drawings sn0w posted (like the bathtub drawing) in her own and wulver's server and if they were censored or not. SC confirmed the drawings WERE posted in sn0w's server but cannot recall if they were censored/spoilered or not.

[sneakysnekbetch]

Motherfucker, you used a VERY HEAVILY SEXUAL SONG to describe your “fOuNd FaMiLy” dynamic and you’re surprised people are saying “hey that’s a little weird”?

Be. Fucking. For real.

It’s not my fault the way you portray 049 with 6118 is fetishized and gross, but that would require you actually having the BRAIN CELLS to realize what you post is weird, now would it?

Don’t vague post about me and NOT expect me to say anything.

[starynightandblackskys]

Sorry from rebloging your post op it came up in the tags and I wanted to add my two cents

Let's not forget this is how tiredsn0w depiced scp 049 and scp 6118 relationship, it wasn't even a year ago btw.....

The sexualization of a black man and the infantilization of a disable gay man isnt something that can be swept under a rug without being adressed 😑

sn0w has a victime complex, people aren't going after this artsit because they feel like it but because sn0w has a platform where they are promoting fetishes disguise as a wholesome relationship

Example from more recent work:

Does this look like a found family dynamic? Or does it look more like a secualization of a disable young men from an older men?

[sneakysnekbetch]

YOU ARE SO CORRECT

I don’t know if it’s still on Snow’s tumblr, but I remember her posting a joke about “bbc” with 049 and 6118

She has NOT changed, she’s just trying to “hide” it now.

[scookie-07]

I will not deny that I did feel a bit weird about the lipstick drawing back then. Now I have NOTHING against her making 049 black, you do you. It's the portrayal of him that gives me a weird feeling. The doc I love is well-mannered as described in his article. He would NOT lick blood off another person! Want to portray a character like that? hmmm... maybe make an OC!

[sneakysnekbetch]

Yeah I agree, it would be REALLY out of character for him.

If it were an OC, it’d still be a little odd but like… whatever. You do you.

Snow try not to mischaracterize SCP 049 challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[burneraccounts-posts]

Been debating on whether or not to say anything about the "helpless" drawing, aka the one with 6118 eating, and I'm going to go ahead and say it: I'm acearo, I know sn0w is acearo, and I know she didn't INTEND on the drawing being sexual... ...but it's so hard to look at it and NOT interpret it as sexual/uncomfortable.

The drawing is framed in a way that it’s extremely uncomfortable, the weird blush and hearts on that text bubble denote something more akin to arousal. ALSO the panting clouds. It makes it seem like 049 is getting aroused by 6118's inability to eat properly, both infantilizing him AND sexualizing him.