Canon-William-Afton

This blog focuses on William Afton deep lore that is book and game canon. There is some infrequent speculation and information about other canon characters. I respect AUs but this William is based on facts and the closest to canon I can get based on what we know. This blog is currently inactive and for archive purposes.

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William Afton’s Canon Motives

The following evidence is backed with canon quotes and references cited from the novels written by Scott Cawthon, based on real facts, and not a head canon or AU.

His envy and resentment of Henry Emily:

TSE p. 351: A search of his house…found stacks of journals full of raving paranoia, passages about Henry that ranged from jealousy to near worship.

TFC 173: William: “I can’t take complete credit for this, unfortunately…My only real accomplishment was making something that could walk…No small accomplishment but it’s not happening as fluidly as you think. A lot of what you see is just in your head…that was Henry’s idea not to try and reinvent the wheel.”

TTO p.258: “I’m…far more than Henry.”

TTO p. 261: “Do you think my robots would be as poorly designed as your father’s?” (Henry’s)

TFC p. 84: “…Henry found a unique spark-created something truly different, something he didn’t deserve, or intend, to stumble upon (Henry implanting his memories into a robot)…you will bring it (Charlie) to me.”

TTO p. 257: William to Charlie: “You have something that belongs to me.”

TSE p. 344-345: “We both wanted to love… (Henry) loved and now I have loved.”

TSE p. 344: “I helped (Henry) create.”

TSE p. 344: “(The children) are home, with me…Their happiest day.”

TSE p. 345: “There isn’t a way out anymore. All that’s left is family.”

His fear of death:

TSE p. 368. (William is afraid of death).

TFC p. 174: “I have face my own mortality…I knew I was dying and through every broken fragment of my body I was profoundly, immeasurably afraid.”

“I fear (death) more than I fear life like this, even when every waking instant is pain, and sleep is possibly only when induced by enough medication to kill most people.”

TFC p. 332: William Afton clenched his fists, studying his own hands for a moment and then looking toward the medical monitors in the corner. “I feel my time is running short.”

TFC p. 339: “I’m running out of ideas,” William said, failing to hide his anxiety.

Scientific experimentation:

His fascination with remnant and binding souls to suits after death.

“Now let us put you to a greater purpose.” (TFC p. 39)

“Their lives will now have a greater purpose,” (William) said contentedly. “Just as you did (Elizabeth in Circus Baby).” (TFC p. 40)

William watched (Circus Baby) with a gleam of pride. (TFC p. 172).

TFC p. 173: He reclined and let out a sigh. “Sometimes great things come at a great cost.”

TFC p. 174: Afton answered thoughtfully, "…But that’s why we’re here-to discover the secret of the last ingredient, what you might call the spark of life.”

TFC p. 175: "The most terrible accidents bear the most beautiful fruits…Re-creating the accident-That is the duty and honor of science. To replicate the experiment, and obtain the same results. I give my life to this experiment, piece by piece.”

TFC p. 178: "How did the creatures at Freddy’s move, of their own will, with no outside force controlling them?” He asked mildly. He tilted his head, waiting.

TFC p. 178-179: “The spirit follows the flesh, it would seem, and also the pain. If I wish to become my own immortal creation, my body must lead my spirit to its immortal home.”

TFC p. 109-111: “Since I am still experimenting… I move my flesh piece by piece. It is a test of the strength of my own will. How much of myself can I carve away, and still remain in control?”

TFC p. 320: “Well, that’s the point of this, to learn, trial and error.”

Jessica: “You want to live forever? …you’re making yourself into a robot?” (TFC 175)

More examples:

“I am simply telling you, so that you can help with what comes next.” (TFC p. 170).

“A woman with a mind for science. You can’t help but admire what I’ve done.” (TFC p. 173)

“Please, as a woman of science, at least try to appreciate what I’ve done.”

(TFC p. 176)

“Come closer…I want you to watch what happens next.” He said tiredly. (TFC p. 177).

“This will be an interesting experiment.” (TFC p. 319)

“For your sake, you’d better hope my little experiment does something; because I doubt you will survive otherwise.” William said mildly. (TFC p. 319)

“That’s unfortunate…I hoped to learn something.” (TFC p. 333)

(His apathy toward experimenting on Carlton, followed by his disappointed reaction to the failed experiment shows that he does not murder for thrill, but for results.)

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Update

I want to be honest with my followers, so that no one thinks I am ghosting. I have been diagnosed with a rare incurable disease that has very little research. It has damaged all of my major organs. I have spent most of the past 6 months in doctor’s offices. I lost feeling in both legs and one arm. I am worried I won’t ever be able to have a normal life. The doctors said there is not enough research to help me. It feels hopeless. It hurts to even type right now. I am being seen in a week about starting an experimental treatment that may help me, but is very risky. If all goes well, I fully intend to keep creating content for this fandom when I am healthy enough and able to. Thank you all for your patience and support. It means so much to me. Have a wonderful day, FNAF family.

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Update as of May 25th 2021:

I am very sad to say that things did not go well. My condition has deteriorated into a critical stage. I’ve had 2 surgeries in the past 6 weeks and am scheduled for at least three more from June through November. My lungs and heart are rapidly failing and I spend most of my days at the Hospital each week. For these reasons I do not have the health to continue to run this blog and must regretfully retire it, as well as any future art. I intend to keep it up so that this wonderful fandom may use it for reference. Thank you so much for the support these past few years and I hope you have wonderful and happy lives ahead. Fare well.

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New Vanny Footage

She frollics, similarly to Glitchtrap/Malehare/Springbonnieman, so perhaps she’s mimicking him or controlled by him.

Also, despite her toy not having a tail, her shadow silhouette shows that she has a tail in game. Fantastic.

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Possibly an incarnation of William Afton speaking?

There’s the lack of accent, however he could be attempting to conceal his identity. The animatronic at the end may possibly be the same one from the Fazbear Frights novels (black pages).

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New William Afton Content

The following contains spoilers for the novel Five Night’s at Freddy’s Fazbear’s Frights #6 Blackbird.

TW: Body horror

(Epilogue page 238)

“...What looked like a burned skeletal man thrust upward. With ashy, see-through skin that revealed dried up but still quivering organs...rabbit ears unfolded from the back of the creature’s skull and stretched upright...”

(Epilogue page 240)

“I think the stuff in the trash compactor came from the Fazbear Entertainment Distribution Center and also from the site where the serial killer William Afton, the one notorious for wearing a rabbit suit, died.” (Epilogue page 241-242)

“...maybe it was (William) Afton himself?”

“...Behind the unsuspecting Larson, the compacted trash began to move. Making a quiet rustling sound Larson didn’t hear, the junk rose from the trash compactor and began to arrange itself into an upright being...and from the top of the unnatural structure, what looked like two rabbit ears made out of even more animatronic parts unfolded and canted forward.”

(End quotes)

As previous speculated in this blog’s post “Novelization William Afton Might Come Back“ William died in a remnant furnace at the end of The Fourth Closet, but his soul did not move on. His burnt appearance in the new novel cements this. Detective Larson’s dialogue now tells us that the previously unknown location in TFC was the Fazbear Entertainment Distribution Center. “I always come back.” –William Afton, FNAF games 

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deepest lore

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It’s not wrong.

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I Think that if Glitchtrap were to appear and possibly talk for the first time in Security Breach ( because Glamrock Freddy's seems to be the one at the end of the trailer), we may quite possibly except PJ Heywood, as he voices the William Afton Counterparts.

I can’t see anyone else aside from PJ Heywood voice Glitchtrap...except maybe for Dawko. That’d be cool if Scott hired him to voice Glitchtrap in the game.

[canon-william-afton]

It’s very possible that some version of William is in the game, as it has been confirmed that PJ Heywood was hired in late July to voice an unspecified character and Micheal has moved on. It’s highly likely that PJ Heywood will be voicing Glitchtrap.

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“It was just a Glitch”

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We get the maze mentioned in Bunny Call!

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Update

Good Evening. As mentioned before, I (Mod) have health problems. I am scheduled for 3 additional surgeries (They must be done in stages because each requires a different surgeon in that expert area of study) with a 30-50% chance of more surgeries if something goes wrong.

I am not certain when I will be able to update this blog, but rest assured I will return when I’m able to. Thank you all for taking the time to read and I hope you have a wonderful day!

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I made a quick meme from Markiplier’s Untitled Goose playthrough. Seemed fitting for Henry and all of William’s incarnations

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Wonderful. I can’t wait to see the lore in Security Breach!

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On the Construction of The Ball Pit

In Into the Pit, there is a time-traveling ball pit in which a possessed yellow rabbit mascot costume (presumably Spring Bonnie) can come out of. While the book is very poorly written and the logic doesn’t make much sense, this is what we know to be true about the construction of the ball pit itself:

“Oswald elbowed the yellow thing aside and moved between it and his still-unconscious father. “You leave… my dad… ALONE!” he yelled, then used the netting to bounce off and clamber onto the yellow thing’s back.” (Cawthon 62)

The above quote mentions that Oswald is standing between his father and the yellow thing (Spring Bonnie), meaning that he has to be in the middle of a ball pit large enough to hold two adults, one of whom is lying down unconscious, and one teenager. From here, he bounces off netting that is elastic enough to force him up 7 feet in the air (as that is Spring Bonnie’s height) to get onto his back. This means that there is elastic netting in the middle of the ball pit that can be bounced on by standing there.

“The rabbit stumbled back into the netting and ropes, then grabbed Oswald’s arms and slung him off its shoulders and into the pit.” (Cawthon 62)

After Oswald’s attack, Spring Bonnie is said to stumble back (but not fall, meaning he is still standing upright) into both netting and ropes. This means that from where Oswald is, he is bouncing on only netting, but on the sides of the ball pit, there are both netting and ropes that are strong enough to support a ~300-400lbs robotic mascot costume without breaking. After this, he would need to stand again in order to throw Oswald off of him.

“Oswald fell headfirst under the surface, grateful that the bottom of the pit was soft. His arm was throbbing, his whole body exhausted, but he had to get up.” (Cawthon 62)

This shows that Oswald is underneath the surface of the ball pit, and cannot see nor do anything about the situation above, where Spring Bonnie still stands perfectly fine. Oswald has not done anything nor can do anything to affect him.

“Oswald rose unsteadily to his feet. Somehow, when it shook Oswald off, the yellow thing must have gotten tangled in the ropes and netting that lined the ball pit. A rope was looped around its neck, and it grasped the rope with its big paws, trying to get free. Oswald couldn’t understand why it was failing to free itself until he saw that the yellow thing’s feet weren’t touching the floor of the pit. The yellow thing was suspended from the rope, which was tied securely to a metal rod at the top of the ball pit.” (Cawthon 62-63)

Despite Oswald being underneath the surface of the ball pit and doing nothing to affect Spring Bonnie, somehow, by the time he stands again Spring Bonnie is hanging from a metal rod at the top of the ball pit by a rope. Spring Bonnie does not seem to do this intentionally, as he is trying to get free. Because Oswald’s father is still unconscious, the only two explanations for this are that A) Jeff (the pizzeria owner who is watching this happen from ~50 feet away on the other end of the pizzeria) ran over and lifted the ~300-400lbs mascot suit and hung him himself, then ran all the way back to where he was standing behind the counter as if nothing happened, or B) the ball pit ropes and netting moved on their own, tangling Spring Bonnie in them, tying a knot, and pulling ~300-400lbs of weight upward in order to hang him. In the case of option B, it is very much possible that the ropes and netting are engineered to move on their own with robotic parts hidden inside to capture children (much like the Funtime animatronics were designed to do), or the ball pit itself could be possessed by the spirit of a vengeful dead child that died there previously (which is how the robots come to be possessed).

Along with that, this means that the ball pit is encased in a cube-like metal cage for Spring Bonnie to hang from the top of it, with netting lining every side (and somewhere in the middle for Oswald to bounce off of). Thus, as a final conclusion, we can say that the ball pit is completely encased in netting with a metal cage frame around it, along with a middle point of extremely elastic netting (however this cannot be the floor of the ball pit, as it is described as “soft” rather than being netting).

The definition of the term ‘ball pit’ is as follows:

“A ball pit is a padded cube or box surrounded by netting filled with hollowplastiv ball whereas a container filled with balls is called a ball pool or ball pond and a tunnel full of balls is called a ball crawl. A ball pit may also have slides or climbing structures with in or trampoline flooring.” (Google)

By this definition, a ball pit is technically required to have netting in the shape of a cube around it, and so Scott Cawthon is correct in his usage of the term.

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This is fantastic. The type of commentary and content I appreciate.

(Not written by mod. Credit to OP.)

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It's funny how people say the graphic novel designs are canon when Jessica is described as a girl with brown hair and a flowery brimmed hat with an embroidered vest and white blouse and is never once described as wearing a pink turtleneck. But I must be mistaken, after all, if an artist is given total creative freedom with designs and no actual limitations or guidence other than a deadline set by Scholastic, that automatically means they are the only true canon!

^^ THANK YOU ANON!!!! that’s why i don’t personally consider pinkypill’s designs canon,, because not only are they kinda bland and bad but they don’t align with the given descriptions

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Pinkypill’s interpretations are only canon in an AU sense, like another parallel version of the book verse. There are very glaring oversights and inaccuracies in Claudia Schröder‘s art, regardless of the graphic novel being official. Most of the unofficial works made by fans are actually closer to Scott’s written vision.

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Present Condition. (Restored/Flashback version to come) TSE p. 48: To the left of the stage was a small hallway… At the end of the short, plain corridor was (Henry’s) office…Most of the room was filled with his desk, his filing cabinets, and small boxes of uninteresting parts. In one corner was a smaller filing cabinet, painted in a salmon colour that Charlie had always insisted was pink…The bottom drawer held toys and crayons, and the top…was mostly colouring books and drawings.

TSE p. 237: There was a small desk, and a folded up metal chair leaned against it. A large cabinet stood against one wall, its door open just a crack.

TSE p. 351: A picture…framed, from the wall of Henry’s office at the restaurant.

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The updated cover for The Twisted Ones Graphic novel look fantatsic!

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William Afton is Not Insane and Does Not Enjoy Murdering

The following evidence is backed with canon quotes and references cited from the novels written by Scott Cawthon, based on real facts, and not a head canon or AU.

TFC p. 170: “Do you think that your pity will make any difference concerning what I do to you?” He asked with a steady tone. He tilted his head, leaning back as if taking a moment to relish the words…

(Jessica) approached William’s chair… (Circus Baby) who seemed poised to intervene,  a half swabbed scalpel in hand, but Afton gave a subtle shake of his hand toward her, waving her off, seeming to enjoy the exchange.

Jessica: “I didn’t realize you fancied yourself a mad scientist.”

William: “No, that’s science fiction.” (TFC p. 175)

William is cognizant of right and wrong. He is fully aware what he is doing and level-headed about it, not crazed. The reason he murdered and continues to murder is the scientific process in his eyes. (“Nice motive, still murder” applies here, however.)

William is not a sadist. He does not murder for thrill or get enjoyment out of it:

In TFC p. 318, William is talking about killing Carlton, however, he looks almost bored. William is speaking calmly and quietly and talking about science the whole time.

He gave Carlton a measured stare. (He’s not grinning or excited. He is focused and calm). “This will be an interesting experiment.” (TFC p. 319).

William lifted the metal syringe, carefully placing it over Carlton’s heart. (Carefully, not frenzied).

“For your sake, you’d better hope my little experiment does something; because I doubt you will survive otherwise.” William said mildly. He nodded toward the cables and Carlton dropped to the ground. (TFC p. 319).

(Mildly, not psychotic or triumphant. He looks at the cables as Carlton falls, not even watching him die. He’s not gleeful. He’s uninterested in the death aspect of the experiment.)

William looked toward Carlton (presumed dead) thoughtfully… “That’s unfortunate…I hoped to learn something.” (TFC p. 333). (If he enjoyed the act of murder he would not have said this.)

TFC p. 334: William made a face, unnerved by the wrecked, commingled creatures. “What a waste.”

(There’s no rush of ecstasy. He is not killing because he enjoys it.)

Actual insanity is marked by exhibiting madness. Madness is doing chaotic and frenzied actions. Chaos is random confusion. Frenzy is uncontrolled behavior.

The legal definition of innocent of murder by reason of insanity requires that a person not be aware of what they were doing, or the consequences of it, at the time of the crime, but many mentally ill people are far more functional than that.

William’s actions are premeditated, controlled, calm and precise.

Mental illness is not inherently linked with being a villain.

Henry Emily is canonically mentally ill and he is a protagonist.

TFC p. 191: “The littlest Charlotte was made with a broken heart…The second Charlotte (Henry) made when he was in the depths of madness… the third Charlotte he made when he realized he’d gone mad…”

 More evidence and proof:

In an interview with Dawko and P.J. Heywood, the voice actor of William Afton, Mr. Heywood said that William Afton draws inspiration from Dr. Lector from the movie “Silence of the Lambs.” (7:17 in the Dawko video timecode)

Heywood also said Scott describes William as being a charismatic, smoothing-talking “snake oil salesman.” (7:13 in the Dawko video timecode) which coincides with book William being able to “convince anyone of anything.” (TSE 344).

P.J. Heywood, the voice actor of William, was personally instructed by Scott Cawthon, who went on to approve the performance and add it to the games, meaning Heywood’s William is canon.

Heywood plays William as intellectually brilliant, cultured, sophisticated, completely calm and a charismatic, smooth-talker.

“(William Afton) is a terrible human being, but it’s a great character.”

-P.J. Heywood, voice actor of William Afton

(Dawko interview timecode 18:07)

In other words, a serial killer must be unaware that murder is legally wrong while committing the act of murder in order to be legally insane. This legal categorization of insanity is so stringent and narrow that very few serial killers are actually included in it.

Today, less than 1 percent of felony defendants raise an insanity defense, and a tiny fraction of those succeed.

Most murderers do not have any severe, diagnosed disorder.

The stigma of making all murders crazy or mentally ill is damaging to innocent and peaceful people who suffer mental illness in real life.

It’s actually more horrifying that a villain murders innocent children with a normal mental state.

This blog is dedicated to posting facts and canon related to the fictional character William Afton.

A misconception is that some of these posts are sympathetic or apologetic. That is not the case. Moderator claims that William Afton is a murderer and a bad person. He is wrong for what he did and nothing justifies it.

Most of the facts posted here are just to show the breadth and complexity of a well written character.

This is why this blog features posts that highlight some positive traits of William Afton.

Scott Cawthon carefully and masterfully made a balanced and interesting villain who was more than just stereotypical evil. Scott wanted him to seem realistic and believable, like someone the fans might pass by on the streets.

Thank you all for your support of this blog and thank you Scott for creating FNAF and such a great story.

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William Afton Tends to be Honest

The following evidence is backed with canon quotes and references cited from the novels written by Scott Cawthon, based on real facts, and not a head canon or AU.

Charlie says, “The children’s souls are still here. You imprisoned them.”

William replies with, “They are home with me… Their happiest day.” (TSE 344)

He was being truthful: (TFC p.323-327, 331-332): The children’s souls are at Freddy’s, playing and happy and having an eternal best day ever, unaware that they had died.

William did not force or terrorize the children. He gained their trust and the followed him. They don’t remember being killed because he had put them to sleep first. (TSE p. 155, 220, 345).  

TFC p. 325: (A child about Spring Bonnie) “He’s our friend.” (p. 326) “That’s our friend. He helped me find my puppy.”

TFC p. 317: Carlton to William: “How could you do this to (the children)?”

William: “They do everything willing…The process only truly works if they freely release a portion of themselves.”

“But they still trust me… They only remember me as I was…” (TFC p. 318)

Again, he is telling the truth: (TFC p. 334): (Another child about Bonnie) “He wants me to bring a new friend for us and he needs my help.”

William to Jessica: “I believe you came here of your own free will…” (TFC p. 174).

TFC p. 154: Jessica does goes to the pizzeria of her own will and when Circus Baby asks her if she wants to come inside, she says, “Yeah, I’d love to.”

TFC p. 165-179: When Jessica asks him more questions, he replies truthfully without hesitation.

Other examples include:

TSE p. 184: Jessica: “Can you make them dance again?” William: “Sure, let’s see what they can do…I’ve been here a few times before.”

TSE p. 264-270: William warns Carlton not to move so he doesn’t injure himself and answers all of the questions that he’s asked honestly.

TSE p. 268: Carlton: “Who’s Henry?” William: (Honest response) Your friend Charlie’s father.” (Also tells him Henry built the animatronics and owns Freddy’s.)

On 269 he also answers his question of how he knows what happens when the springlocks go off honestly.

TSE p. 344: Charlie asks him what he did to her father. He says, “I helped him create…We both wanted love.”

TTO p. 256: “They don’t care about you. I’m the one who brought you here.”

TTO p. 259: “I won’t hurt your friends, but I need something from you.”

TTO p. 274: “I didn’t take him. I took you.”

While he did lie about his name, (TSE p. 173), he said it was necessary to get around inconspicuously (TFC p. 167).

While all humans lie to an extent, if he told the truth 10 times and lied once, he is still an honest person.

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William Afton is Charismatic

The following evidence is backed with canon quotes and references cited from the novels written by Scott Cawthon, based on real facts, and not a head canon or AU.

In the games and the novels, William uses charisma to charm his victims into trusting him.

In an interview with Dawko and P.J. Heywood, the voice actor of William Afton, Mr. Heywood said that William Afton draws inspiration from Dr. Lector from the movie “Silence of the Lambs.” (7:17 in the Dawko video timecode)

Dr. Lector is described canonically as “intellectually brilliant, cultured and sophisticated.“

Like book William (TFC 111), Dr. Lector operates on himself.

When Lector harms others, he remains perfectly calm, just like book William (TFC 195-202). (7:30 in the Dawko video timecode)

Heywood also said Scott describes William as being a charismatic, smoothing-talking “snake oil salesman.” (7:13 in the Dawko video timecode) which coincides with book William being able to “convince anyone of anything.” (TSE 344).

William did not force or terrorize the children. He gained their trust and the followed him. They don’t remember being killed because he had put them to sleep first. (TSE p. 155, 220, 345).  (More citations on this subject can be found in the Honesty post)

Other examples of his charisma include:

TSE p. 185: “For special occasions you can request a dance.”

TSE 266: “It’s not an order, it’s a friendly warning.

TSE 344: (His voice) was confident, somehow reassuring- a voice that might convince you of almost anything.

TSE 345: “You’re something beautiful, aren’t you?

TTO p. 259: He touched the back of his hand to Charlie’s face, stroking her cheek like a beloved child. “I won’t hurt your friends, but I need something from you.”

TSE 350-351: Afton seemed like the normal one…the businessman. William Afton was the one who made Freddy’s a business, as he had (Fredbear’s Family Diner). Afton was as robust and lively as Henry was withdrawn and shadowy. He was a hefty man who had the ruddy geniality (friendly and cheerful manner) of a financially shrewd Santa Claus.

TSE 352: Afton had been fat and affable (friendly, good-natured, or easy to talk to).

TFC p. 174: “I believe you came here of your own free will, didn’t you?” Afton said mildly.

TSE 174, 268: (He is described as being polite).

TTO p. 258: “I owe you both another debt of gratitude…”

TFC p. 165: “Come here,” He said.

Jessica: “I’ll stay where I am.”

William: “As you like.”

He asks her to come closer and when she declines, he does not force her. (TFC p. 167) He again beckons her with, “Come, sit with me.” He does not force her. He just says, “Jessica, come closer.”

TFC p. 333: “You’ll have to forgive me, though, as I’m not sure how to do that, either.”

TSE 174: (He is described as being shy).

TSE 239: (He is described as being patient).

TFC p. 178: He asked mildly. He tilted his head, waiting.

TFC p. 169: (William) smiled, giving Jessica a moment to think before continuing.

(Though of course as Dave and Springtrap he was playing roles, and in TFC he was in pain and irritable)