Interview with Mark L. Winston, author of Bee Time
Mark L. Winston is a local Vancouverite and professor at UBC. Earlier this month he released his first book, Bee Time: Lessons From The Hive. Bee Time presents his reflections on three decades spent studying these remarkable creatures, and on the lessons they can teach about how humans might better interact with one another and the natural world, from the boardroom to urban design to agricultural ecosystems. We had the pleasure of having him in to our store for a book signing and interview.
Chapters: What got you interested in bees?
Mark: Well actually initially it had nothing to do with bees. It had to do with the desire for adventure and I wanted to do my graduate work in South America, studying insects. But it was mostly for the adventure of being a tropical biologist. My advisor had just gotten a grant to study killer bees in South America. So, I heard the South America part, haha, and thought bees would do just fine. That was my first exposure to bees, and of course once I started working with them I fell in love.
Chapters: Nothing else has quite caught your attention the same way ever since?
Mark: I would say a lot of things catch my attention, but there’s something about bees that has always riveted me. From the moment I walked into an apiary I felt like I was at home. Some people really connect with dogs or with cats, whereas I connect with bees.
Above: Mark signing his new book Bee Time for Chapters guests.
Chapters: The first couple of pages in your book you talk very passionately about your experience when you step in, the sensory overload so to speak, and that let me see a glimpse of that in your words.
Chapters: You are a professor at SFU, but have you always been a writer or was this adventure of yours with bees what really triggered you to say “You know what, I’m going to write a book about this”?
Mark: Well the first book I wrote was about bees, but I think I’ve been a writer since I was in my teens. I found old journals that I had kept a number of years ago when I was 16, 17, and in my twenties and I could really see even my current writing style really reflected in those. I didn’t really start thinking about writing a book until after I got my PhD. Because I was so focused on bees then that seemed like the logical thing to do, but I am and have always been a very dedicated reader. So the idea of writing never seemed intimidating.
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Chapters: You seem very interested in things involving social and environmental change and you speak a lot about that in connection to bees. What first started your passion for these issues?
Mark: When I was in my teens I ran around with a bunch of kids in high school who were all very politically active and very politically and socially aware. Then when I went to university I became quite an activist and I think that got my interest going. Taking what I was doing in my science and extending it much further than just the scientific research. It helped me realize that we all need to have a commitment to social change as well to whatever particular work we might do.
Chapters: On the SFU site it says that you are currently on something called the Honeycomb Project to improve learning for students, would you be able to tell us about that?
Mark: Well the honeycomb project is more for faculty than students. It’s designed to give faculty more experience at connecting their classes with social issues, at experiental education, more community engaged kind of teaching and it struck me that honeycomb was a good name for that, because the honeycomb is the place where bees interact. It’s a place where they pass around information and where they accomplish much of the collaborative work they do in the hive. So it seemed like a fitting title for it.
Above: Mark doing a talk to Chapters guests about his book.
Chapters: This is a very broad question and we know that the effects are tremendous, but what are some of the major effects that the disappearance of bees would cause on human civilization, as we know it?
Mark: Well first, about a third of the food we eat would disappear. The habitats and environments that we live in would change dramatically because bees pollinate not only our cultural crops, but they pollinate wild flowers as well. So, many of the trees that we know would be gone, many of the plants, the meadows, and a lot of the habitats would change completely. This would have incredible consequences on our human survival. It would be a very different world without bees.
Chapters: You have done tons of research with bees and you’ve come up with all these results. If you had to choose, what would be the one thing you’ve learned from bees that you would like to pass on to the next generation?
Mark: I would probably answer that question differently depending on my mood of the day, because there’s many different things. In my mood today I would say…being present to those around you. Bees are incredibly present to other bees. They are completely open to sensory inputs, communication from the whole society around them. Their whole world is built on that aspect of listening. So I think if there’s any one thing that I’ve learned from bees that I would recommend other learn from bees, it’s how to listen.
Photo Credit: AP-Yves Logghe
Chapters: That is very profound. Now I know you live here in Vancouver. What are some of the things that we as Vancouverites can do ensure that bees continue to survive and thrive?
Mark: Reduce pesticide use. When there are flowers in your lawn don’t mow it, let the dandelions and the clover bloom, and let the bees get their nectar from it. Garden and plant bee-friendly crops. Leave some areas at the edges of your yard that are kind of wild where bees can nest. There are hundreds of species of bees and many of them nest in the soil or nest in brush and hollow twigs, so you want to leave those areas and let the bees take advantage of that.
Chapters: What would you say to people with fear of bees?
Mark: Bees are an integral part of the environment around us and by paying attention to bees it connects us to nature. It’s very calming and people that may be afraid of bees or have the wrong impression, I would encourage them to think about the importance of bees as connectors, and as a symbol of how we need to connect with each other as bees connect with other bees in the hive.