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Yay to season 4 announcement!🙌
I will be excited and celebrate ONLY when Luciane Buchanan is confirmed to be returning. Unfortunately they burned me too badly with season 3, and I learn from my mistakes, so no happiness from me until I see it in writing!! 🤣
have you watched season 3?
I did. I wasn’t planning to, but then I realized if it gets cancelled I have NO chance of getting Rose Larkin back, but if it gets renewed at least there’s some hope I’ll see my girl again. So I watched - half paid attention and mostly just survived from Peterose crumb to Peterose crumb. 🤣
Overall I think the season was decent. I think the writers did a better job of letting Peter show some emotion, and the plotline itself was a little more well done and easier to follow (although still unnecessarily convoluted). Unfortunately the bad taste left in my mouth by the poor treatment of Luciane/Rose and the disrespect shown to fans by dragging us along for months without telling us straight up she wasn’t returning was impossible to overcome. (And announcing it on a Friday night to try to bury the news?? I have literally never felt more disrespected as a TV viewer in my life)
It’s a season I will never rewatch. And if Rose isn’t announced to return for season 4 (assuming it gets renewed), then I will NOT be manipulated into watching again. Me watching this time was a one time deal. I hope they can fix what they broke should they get another season.
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The Night Agent Fanfic: The Fears of Fall
Summary:
When a mission to stop a drug smuggling ring leads Peter and Rose to a small town Fall Harvest Festival, they will have to face their deepest fears in order to solve the case and save innocent lives.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/72247456/chapters/188098151
Hello! It's me, back again with a fall-themed Peterose fic for all us suffering Peterose fans. Enjoy! 🍂🍁🎃👻🦇
I don’t mean to be rude; but I don’t think I’ve ever seen this, does anyone have any examples?
Supernatural
Doctor Who (Steven Moffat specifically)
Sherlock (Steven Moffat specifically)
Actually Steven Moffat is basically just this sentiment given human form.
A version of this happened with The Magicians, tbh. Though instead of expectation: men, reality: women it was expectation: smug nihilists, reality: mentally ill queer folks.
Arguably Game of Thrones.
If we broaden it outside of television…I think Star Wars falls into this, at least the sequel trilogy. Maybe the MCU as well. And I can’t help but think of every band that’s ever complained that their fanbase is mostly women. 5 Seconds of Summer comes immediately to mind.
In general, most white male creators seem to have this massively entitled mindset where they want–and think they deserve–the time, attention, and enthusiasm that creative fandom (i.e. the side of fandom more dominated by women) is known for.
They want our eyes for ratings, our word-of-mouth for free publicity, our metas for social media buzz, and our spending power for merch and cons. But they don’t want us. And they don’t really want the responsibility of telling a story to a thoughtful, engaged audience, regardless of that audience’s demographic makeup. They just want to be praised for whatever schlock they cough up.
And like any other spoiled brat, they will break their toys before they share them.
It goes all the way to the top for kids shows. Toy sales will crash a show. Makes sense, but if those toys are gendered for boys instead of the female viewers, they won’t usually switch up the marketing and move them to the girl aisle. They cancel the show outright.
Mind you it is perfectly possible to make the switch in marketing, but execs would rather throw it all out than have something that doesn’t perform well with male viewers. For example the Rey merch was not expected to be popular, for some reason, there had to be public outcry to get merch of one of the main 3 protagonists. A PROTAGONIST. The fact that she wasn’t a huge part of the 1st launch says a lot already.
And what happened when female fans got too invested in the Sequel Trilogy? The entire writers room didn’t necessarily lash out, but they sure forgot how to behave.
Young Justice
Paul Dini: Superhero cartoon execs don’t want largely female audiences
#WhereIsRey (initial)
#WhereIsRey (ongoing)
The older, male generation of 'Star Wars' fans may be losing interest in the franchise, but female fans are stepping up.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker was designed to be the opposite of The Last Jedi
You’re all sitting on the hot take of the decade tbh
And yet when they fond out that boys were watching MLP:FIM in droves, they had NO PROBLEM with it.
#SONS OF ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!#LITERALLY SONS OF ANARCHY IS THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF THIS LIKE EVER#kurt sutter wrote that show for MEN and ended up with an overwhelmingly female audience#because he’s actually a good writer and knows how to develop characters well and wrote excellent female characters#but once he realized that his audience was almost entirely women he literally took it out on tara and gemma in the show#but like tara specifically#he resented her character for being a huge draw for female viewers so he tore her development to shreds and killed her#in the most brutal gut wrenching way possible#kurt sutter you will pay for your crimes#i actually wrote a manifesto about this on one of my old blogs i should try to find it sldkjsldfjsdljf#long post (via@m-oonknight)
OMG YES. I LOVED Sons of Anarchy, especially the women and then I got to season 6 and it was like - everything was just tossed in the trash? And like, why did Sutter hate that Tara drew tons of attention? That should have been a good thing! He should have been like “Hey folks, this girl’s getting us more viewers, let’s put her in more scenes!” It just doesn’t make sense to me. MEN don’t make sense to me.
The 100 too. I’ll never forget how Jason Rothenberg would attacked female fans on Twitter and mock them in interviews, and then post links to male fan discussions on Reddit to praise and thank them. In his goodbye letter to the show he SPECIFICALLY thanked Reddit and it was so disgusting.
Star Trek from TNG on was also a boy’s club, even though the TOS fans were mostly women. Women, in fact, who literally created modern fandom with their zines. But after TNG it was all, “Women don’t understand Star Trek, only smart men hur dur.”
I think it would be harder for us to find examples of when this DIDNT happen than when it did. It happens all the time.
Doesn’t stop it from boggling the mind
(though it could probably start to make some sense if you follow the money past audience bases to maybe a couple of investors or like a rich patron … 🤔)
Stooooop I just wrote a masters thesis on this shit. Media creation and distribution is a means by which dominant power structures consolidate their hegemony. Dominantly situated creators get upset when the audience they attract isn’t the audience they wanted, because they view the whole creation and sharing of the fiction as an exercise to sustain kyriarchal conditions that benefit themselves. When the audience is Other, they see it as a failure of those efforts and lash out.
Simply, they’re trying to assert a particular worldview via fiction, and upon getting confronted with something else, begin foot stamping. It’s not just men wanting male attention and gatekeeping. It’s that the fiction in the first place was an attempt to curate dominance and whoopsie! they miscalculated.
(anyway if anyone wants to read 35k words of philosophy about this, hmu)
I think a lot about an interview I heard with Bo Burnham a few years ago, where he talks about this phenomenon with his own work. He gained a large audience of teenage girls, and people in comedy spaces would look down on him for that or say what a shame it was, but he responded differently:
“The real truth is, I would perform my show and I would meet kids after and young girls would come up to me and they understood what I was expressing in that bit onstage way more than guys my own age. Way more. So if there was a bridge between us that I had to cross to write the movie [Eighth Grade], it was built to me by them. I felt understood by them before I presumed to understand them.”
Instead of trying to change his comedy, he decided to lean into and celebrate the audience that he actually had by making a movie specifically about the experiences of a teenage girl. It’s fascinating to hear him talk about how he got there, but also to acknowledge how rare that reaction is.
Slight tangent - all of this is true of the sports (and related entertainment) industry as well. Female fans drive so much of the event attendance, media hype, and revenue, but it’s still viewed as Just For Men.
I fear this is what’s happening with The Night Agent and our beloved Peter x Rose @monisse
@charmingwords23 @34to42 @cherrycourage
It does sound eerily familiar…🧐😵💫🙄
At least it was announced before the show started Rose wont be there. We were baited EVERY week that James would show up!
True. 💀 They had the courtesy to let us know ahead of time for TNA that we don’t have to watch. I do appreciate that, because I had even considered taking a personal day from work so I could watch s3. I would have been SO MAD if I did that and then she wasn’t even in it in the end. 🤣 Now I don’t have to waste my time watching at all. Saved me 8 hours.
Although, I’m very salty that they waited until now to announce it even though they knew the deal 8 months ago. They purposely strung us along and let us keep some hope only to drop the news on a random Friday night (trying to bury it?). Ok! 🙄 I find that to be quite manipulative and disrespectful.
Rose not in s3 of TNA is giving me no James in s4 of qots vibes 😭
UGH do not bring up these bad memories 😭😭😭 We are cursed, anon. You’re exactly right though, it will be the same. It will lead to a throwaway season I can barely stomach watching even once and will never EVER rewatch, and it will make me so mad in s3 every time they do NOT take advantage of a situation to address the absence or mention her name when it would have been easy to do so. I wouldn’t be shocked if we get a last minute cameo setting her up for a s4 return too, just like they did with James. They think that will appease me, but it will NOT.
Fanfic: The Pumpkin Predicament
Fandom: The Night Agent
Summary: With Baby Sutherland due to arrive any day now, Rose's doubts about her ability to be a mother start to bubble to the surface. When she and Peter find a lost puppy, Rose decides that taking care of the puppy and returning it to its owners will be the perfect way to prove to herself that she has the maternal instincts that her mom lacked. Nothing ever goes as planned in the Sutherland household though...
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/68574256/chapters/177539761#workskin
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I never said boyfriend! Percy Jackson and the Olympians - Season 2
Fanfic: The Papaya Paranoia
Fandom: The Night Agent
Summary: Ever since learning he is going to be a father, Peter has become extra paranoid.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/68257506
Note: I figured a great way to begin #PeteroseWeek2025 is with a fluffy fanfic. We desperately need more fluff! This is Part 2 in a trilogy (for now). Part 1 can be read here.
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#PeteroseWeek2025 coming at the end of July! Most events have been organized on Twitter, but all are welcome! ♥️
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Fanfic: Birthday Traditions
Fandom: The Night Agent
Summary: Rose Larkin has never had birthday traditions. Peter is determined to change that, but a surprise visit from someone unexpected might throw a wrench in the plans for the day.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/66190183/chapters/170607220
June 10 is Rose Larkin's birthday! What better way to celebrate than with a glimpse into her life on this special day?
Peter + hovering while Rose works, requested by @sarmaarmour
PETER SUTHERLAND & ROSE LARKIN | The Night Agent (Netflix)
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